Gun control in Australia is supposed to stop these shootings...they banned and confiscated guns cause no 2nd Amendment.

You don't have to kill a person when using a gun in a defensive manner. Oftentimes the mere brandishing of a firearm will stop a criminal in his tracks.

The fact that there are not more deaths from self defense situations only underscores the incredible restraint shown by legal gun owners.
I understand. But given the rarity of justifiable homicide, I find overall figures of million or more defensive gun uses per year unbelievable.
 
I would replace the word conservative with gun nut, because they're on both sides of the fence. Yes, that's another puzzler, they believe regulation means confiscation. Again, bone is in the way. I'm UK centre right, also vote Tory, but my orientation to guns is different to many US conservatives because I was brought up in a much safer gun culture. In fact, as kids, we went shooting with air pistols and air rifles. Then my older brother bought a shotgun, we went lamping, you could just go to any field and shoot rabbits, then back to school the next day. Unfortunately, society has to walk as slow as the fuckwits that spoil it for everyone else. So the regs increase.


No....moron...registration is the first step for confiscation...as your own fucking country demonstrated...you doofus....as did Canada, Australia, France, Germany, Russia,.............and various states in the U.S. who have registered rifles then moved on to ban and confiscate them.
 
I stopped buying Fosters Lager LONG AGO...back when I found out Australia is host to ESCHELON, the worlds largest telecommunications surveillance computer.
 
2aguy , when you get your usual 2" erection over a shooting in an another country, you are witnessing one of the very few incidents that take place. The reason why there's fewer than the state's is because of gun regulations. The only way you stop 100% gun incidents or car crashes, is if you could magically make all guns and vehicles disappear in an instant.

Now if you take the daily incidents in the US, it'll probably be greater than many combined Western countries put together.


No....moron....you keep telling us that you can own guns in these other countries...various hunting guns even in Britain...so you have access to guns...you just don't have as many people yet who will take them to commit mass murder.....

And even here, in the U.S......we have over 350 million people.... 600 million guns...over 22 million people can carry guns in public for self defense and 16 million actually do so every day....

How many of us used those legal guns for mass public shootings...in 2021...

6

6 freaking people out of over 350 million people, you numb nuts......

And after you guys banned and confiscated guns in Europe...you went on to murder 15 million innocent men, women and children in just 6 years....

15 million people in 6 years.

Total gun murder number in the U.S. for our entire 246 year history....?

About 2,460,000

Can you see which number is bigger....you doofus?
 
Suicide tends to mean it happened to the person, as opposed to that person blasting away families or a classroom of kids.


6 people in 2021 committed acts of mass public shooting......out of a country of over 350 million people....you dumb ass.......

total of 43 people murdered in those attacks...

Ladders kill 300 people a year

Deer kill 200 people a year

bathtubs kill 350 people a year,

Cars over 49,000
 
Because gun nuts are so passionate over guns, psychology would suggest they must receive sexual pleasure from such inanimate objects.


The only one talking about getting sexual pleasure from guns is you......you bring it up the same way the other gun grabbers do.....

You have the problem...not us....you really need to get help.
 
Did you know, if you apply for a shotgun, the government via the police cannot stop you from owning one. They have to have a reason to decline a shotgun certificate. So the only person that can stop you, is you. So if you have a clean police history, nothing on your driving record that would affect the outcome (say caught using your car as a weapon, deliberately driving at someone), your medical history is fine, and the referees you give check out, then you can go buy a shotgun. If you fucked up on any of those, then you've given the police to not grant you a certificate.

If you want a fire arm, such as a long barrel handgun, a rifle, an Uzi etc.. then it's up to you to prove you need one. So if you have a clean background, your job as a pest controller requires one, you're part of a gun club, you have the land and vermin that requires one etc... , then it's likely you will be granted one. If you want one because you're paranoid about violence and thus need it for self defence, or you just like the look of a rifle, then forget it mate.

And if you are declined, yet you're squeaky clean, and good reason for a firearm, I can guarantee it you would get a fair trial in the UK if you sued the government and/or police, because the judicial system is so anal in following the law, even the government lose court cases.

So now your knowledge is updated, your future posts will reflect this. But as you are American........no fucking chance.


Moron....you really think the British police hand out shotgun certificates easily? Sell that to joe biden voters.

Begging the government so you can have a gun to protect your family is fine with you.....not us........when they decide to put you in that boxcar...remember, you didn't want a gun to help keep that from happening.
 
Shithead........my link quoted the New York Post...one of the few real papers left in our country.
Your link is just riddled with brain dead shit rhetoric. Confiscation is repeated often, fuck all to do with the incident, and fuck all information. I can see where you get your repeated brain dead shit rhetoric from too.

And to cap it off, you confirm this brain dead shit by producing a thread on it.

Straight away, it's remote. Your kin blast classrooms of kid away. Then, Australia have had 3 mass shootings since 1996, fuck me, America has that on a Sunday afternoon. Who was it between and what was the motive?

Mouth froth, "But but but....mouth froth...but confiscation...but but but....2nd amendment.....but but but.....pray to the guns.....but but but...."

You sad fuck.
 
No....moron...registration is the first step for confiscation...as your own fucking country demonstrated...you doofus....as did Canada, Australia, France, Germany, Russia,.............and various states in the U.S. who have registered rifles then moved on to ban and confiscate them.
You are more retarded than a Democrat.
 
6 people in 2021 committed acts of mass public shooting......out of a country of over 350 million people....you dumb ass.......

total of 43 people murdered in those attacks...

Ladders kill 300 people a year

Deer kill 200 people a year

bathtubs kill 350 people a year,

Cars over 49,000
Australia have had 3 mass shootings since 1996....you dumb ass ....you mong....

Ladders kill because people use them. Deer kill because there are deer about. Bathtubs kill because many Americans are fat fucks and get stuck. Cars kill 49,000, without regulations, that number would be VASTLY more.

I have two little stupid dogs, I'm going to rename them Einstein 1 and Einstein 2 because compared to you, that's what you make them look like.
 
Your link is just riddled with brain dead shit rhetoric. Confiscation is repeated often, fuck all to do with the incident, and fuck all information. I can see where you get your repeated brain dead shit rhetoric from too.

And to cap it off, you confirm this brain dead shit by producing a thread on it.

Straight away, it's remote. Your kin blast classrooms of kid away. Then, Australia have had 3 mass shootings since 1996, fuck me, America has that on a Sunday afternoon. Who was it between and what was the motive?

Mouth froth, "But but but....mouth froth...but confiscation...but but but....2nd amendment.....but but but.....pray to the guns.....but but but...."

You sad fuck.


No...they have had 3 successful and about a dozen where the idiot was a bad shot....

https://www.news.com.au/national/cr...e/news-story/ed86967684bfc2159b1c25b934c0ddb9
A siege in the Tasmanian city of Launceston has ended with police arresting a 24-year-old man and a woman, 40, after 33 shots were fired at police.
Police had brought in negotiators, a heavily armoured Bearcat truck and evacuated residents from the street during the 18 hour stand-off which began on Friday afternoon.

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  • 16 January 1998 to 15 June 2009 – Melbourne gangland killings – A series of 35 murders of crime figures and their associates that began with the slaying of Alphonse Gangitano in his home, most likely by Jason Moran, the latest victim being Des Moran who was murdered in Ascot Vale on 15 June 2009.


  • 16 August 1998 – Victorian police officers Gary Silk and Rodney Miller were shot dead in an ambush by Bendali Debs and Jason Joseph Roberts in the Moorabbin Police murders.
  • 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
  • 13 March 2000 – Millewa State Forest Murders – Barbara and Stephen Brooks and Stacie Willoughby were found dead, all three having been shot execution style and left in the forest.[60][61]
  • 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
    • 14 October 2002 – Dr. Margret Tobin, the South Australian head of Mental Health Services, was shot dead by Jean Eric Gassy as she walked out of a lift in her office building.
    • 21 October 2002 – Monash University shootingHuan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
    • 25 October 2003 – Greenacre double murder – A man and a woman are shot dead in a house in the suburb of Greenacre, Sydney which was the result of a feud between two Middle Eastern crime families, 24-year-old Ziad Abdulrazak was shot 10 times in the chest and head and 22-year-old Mervat Hamka was shot twice in the neck while she slept in her bedroom, up to 100 shots were fired into the house from four men who were later arrested and convicted of the murders.
    • 26 July 2004 – Security guard Karen Brown shot dead armed robber William Aquilina in a Sydney carpark after he violently bashed her and stole the hotel's takings. Brown was charged with murder but acquitted on the grounds of self-defence.[66][67]
  • 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
  • 10 April 2010 – Rajesh Osborne shot and killed his three children, 12 year-old Asia, 10-year-old Jarius and 7-year-old Grace before killing himself in Roxburgh, Victoria.[citation needed]
  • 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
  • 1
  • 29 January 2012 – Giovanni Focarelli, son of Comancheros gang member Vincenzo Focarelli, was shot dead whilst Vincenzo survived the fourth attempt on his life.[79]
  • 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
  • 23 May 2012 – Christopher 'Badness' Binse, a career criminal well known to police, was arrested after a 44-hour siege at an East Keilor home in Melbourne's north west. During the siege, Binse fired several shots at police and refused to co-operate with negotiators; eventually tear gas had to be used to force him out of the house, at which point he refused to put down his weapon and was then sprayed with a volley of non-lethal bullets.[citation needed]
  • 15 December 2012 – Aaron Carlino murdered drug dealer Stephen Cookson in his East Perth home by shooting him twice in the head and then he cut up and dismembered his body. He buried his arms legs and torso in the backyard of his house and he wrapped his head in a plastic bag and dumped it on Rottnest Island. The head of Cookson was later found washed up on Rottnest Island by an 11-year-old girl. Carlino was convicted of the murder and was sentenced to life in prison.[citation needed]
  • 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
  • 29 July 2013 – Two bikie gang associates, Vasko Boskovski and Bassil Hijazi were shot dead in two separate shooting incidents minutes apart in South West Sydney. The previous week Bassil Hijazi had survived a previous attempt against his life after he was shot inside his car.[citation needed]
  • 9 September 2014 – Lockhart massacre – Geoff Hunt shot and killed his wife, Kim, his 10-year-old son Fletcher, and his daughters Mia, eight and Phoebe, six before killing himself on a farm in Lockhart in the Riverina district near Wagga Wagga New South Wales. The body of Geoff Hunt and a firearm are later found in a dam on the farm by police divers and a suicide note written by Geoff Hunt is also found inside the house on the farm.[citation needed]
  • 22 October 2014 – Wedderburn shootings – Ian Jamieson shot dead Peter Lockhart, Peter's wife Mary and Mary's son Greg Holmes on two farm properties in Wedderburn, Victoria over a property dispute. Jamieson surrendered to police after a three-and-a-half hour siege.[citation needed]
  • 7 November 2014 – Jordy Brook carjacked a Channel 7 news cameraman at gun point during a crime spree on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. He was later captured and arrested by police after luring police on a high speed chase and crashing the car.[citation needed]
  • 12 November 2014 – Jamie Edwards and Joelene Joyce a married couple who were drug dealers are found shot dead in a car on a highway in the town of Moama, New South Wales.[86]
  • 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
  • 27 June 2015 – Hermidale triple murder – the bodies of three people, two men and a woman are found shot dead on a property in a rural farming community in the town of Hermidale west of Nyngan, the bodies of 28-year-old Jacob Cumberland his father 59-year-old Stephen Cumberland and a 36-year-old woman were found with gun shot wounds, the body of Jacob Cumberland was found on the drive way of the property, the body of the 36-year-old woman was found in the backyard of the property and the body of Stephen Cumberland was found in a burnt out caravan on the property. 61-year-old Allan O'Connor is later arrested and charged with the murders.
  • 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.

  • 2 October 2015 - 2015 Parramatta shooting On 2 October 2015, Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, a 15-year-old boy, shot and killed Curtis Cheng, an unarmed police civilian finance worker, outside the New South Wales Police Force headquarters in Parramatta, Australia. Jabar was subsequently shot and killed by special constables who were protecting the police station.
 
Moron....you really think the British police hand out shotgun certificates easily? Sell that to joe biden voters.

Begging the government so you can have a gun to protect your family is fine with you.....not us........when they decide to put you in that boxcar...remember, you didn't want a gun to help keep that from happening.
Police hand out certificates easily?

Here's that stats -

Statistics on firearm and shotgun certificates, England and Wales: April 2021 to March 2022

Screenshot_20221223-195708.png


Here's a screenshot of the stats when you refuse to click on the link. What an uneducated moron you are. Are least do some research before displaying to the planet what a blithering idiot you are. Are you a kid in pre-school per chance?
 
No...they have had 3 successful and about a dozen where the idiot was a bad shot....

https://www.news.com.au/national/cr...e/news-story/ed86967684bfc2159b1c25b934c0ddb9
A siege in the Tasmanian city of Launceston has ended with police arresting a 24-year-old man and a woman, 40, after 33 shots were fired at police.
Police had brought in negotiators, a heavily armoured Bearcat truck and evacuated residents from the street during the 18 hour stand-off which began on Friday afternoon.

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  • 16 January 1998 to 15 June 2009 – Melbourne gangland killings – A series of 35 murders of crime figures and their associates that began with the slaying of Alphonse Gangitano in his home, most likely by Jason Moran, the latest victim being Des Moran who was murdered in Ascot Vale on 15 June 2009.


  • 16 August 1998 – Victorian police officers Gary Silk and Rodney Miller were shot dead in an ambush by Bendali Debs and Jason Joseph Roberts in the Moorabbin Police murders.
  • 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
  • 13 March 2000 – Millewa State Forest Murders – Barbara and Stephen Brooks and Stacie Willoughby were found dead, all three having been shot execution style and left in the forest.[60][61]
  • 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
    • 14 October 2002 – Dr. Margret Tobin, the South Australian head of Mental Health Services, was shot dead by Jean Eric Gassy as she walked out of a lift in her office building.
    • 21 October 2002 – Monash University shootingHuan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
    • 25 October 2003 – Greenacre double murder – A man and a woman are shot dead in a house in the suburb of Greenacre, Sydney which was the result of a feud between two Middle Eastern crime families, 24-year-old Ziad Abdulrazak was shot 10 times in the chest and head and 22-year-old Mervat Hamka was shot twice in the neck while she slept in her bedroom, up to 100 shots were fired into the house from four men who were later arrested and convicted of the murders.
    • 26 July 2004 – Security guard Karen Brown shot dead armed robber William Aquilina in a Sydney carpark after he violently bashed her and stole the hotel's takings. Brown was charged with murder but acquitted on the grounds of self-defence.[66][67]
  • 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
  • 10 April 2010 – Rajesh Osborne shot and killed his three children, 12 year-old Asia, 10-year-old Jarius and 7-year-old Grace before killing himself in Roxburgh, Victoria.[citation needed]
  • 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
  • 1
  • 29 January 2012 – Giovanni Focarelli, son of Comancheros gang member Vincenzo Focarelli, was shot dead whilst Vincenzo survived the fourth attempt on his life.[79]
  • 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
  • 23 May 2012 – Christopher 'Badness' Binse, a career criminal well known to police, was arrested after a 44-hour siege at an East Keilor home in Melbourne's north west. During the siege, Binse fired several shots at police and refused to co-operate with negotiators; eventually tear gas had to be used to force him out of the house, at which point he refused to put down his weapon and was then sprayed with a volley of non-lethal bullets.[citation needed]
  • 15 December 2012 – Aaron Carlino murdered drug dealer Stephen Cookson in his East Perth home by shooting him twice in the head and then he cut up and dismembered his body. He buried his arms legs and torso in the backyard of his house and he wrapped his head in a plastic bag and dumped it on Rottnest Island. The head of Cookson was later found washed up on Rottnest Island by an 11-year-old girl. Carlino was convicted of the murder and was sentenced to life in prison.[citation needed]
  • 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
  • 29 July 2013 – Two bikie gang associates, Vasko Boskovski and Bassil Hijazi were shot dead in two separate shooting incidents minutes apart in South West Sydney. The previous week Bassil Hijazi had survived a previous attempt against his life after he was shot inside his car.[citation needed]
  • 9 September 2014 – Lockhart massacre – Geoff Hunt shot and killed his wife, Kim, his 10-year-old son Fletcher, and his daughters Mia, eight and Phoebe, six before killing himself on a farm in Lockhart in the Riverina district near Wagga Wagga New South Wales. The body of Geoff Hunt and a firearm are later found in a dam on the farm by police divers and a suicide note written by Geoff Hunt is also found inside the house on the farm.[citation needed]
  • 22 October 2014 – Wedderburn shootings – Ian Jamieson shot dead Peter Lockhart, Peter's wife Mary and Mary's son Greg Holmes on two farm properties in Wedderburn, Victoria over a property dispute. Jamieson surrendered to police after a three-and-a-half hour siege.[citation needed]
  • 7 November 2014 – Jordy Brook carjacked a Channel 7 news cameraman at gun point during a crime spree on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. He was later captured and arrested by police after luring police on a high speed chase and crashing the car.[citation needed]
  • 12 November 2014 – Jamie Edwards and Joelene Joyce a married couple who were drug dealers are found shot dead in a car on a highway in the town of Moama, New South Wales.[86]
  • 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
  • 27 June 2015 – Hermidale triple murder – the bodies of three people, two men and a woman are found shot dead on a property in a rural farming community in the town of Hermidale west of Nyngan, the bodies of 28-year-old Jacob Cumberland his father 59-year-old Stephen Cumberland and a 36-year-old woman were found with gun shot wounds, the body of Jacob Cumberland was found on the drive way of the property, the body of the 36-year-old woman was found in the backyard of the property and the body of Stephen Cumberland was found in a burnt out caravan on the property. 61-year-old Allan O'Connor is later arrested and charged with the murders.
  • 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.

  • 2 October 2015 - 2015 Parramatta shooting On 2 October 2015, Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, a 15-year-old boy, shot and killed Curtis Cheng, an unarmed police civilian finance worker, outside the New South Wales Police Force headquarters in Parramatta, Australia. Jabar was subsequently shot and killed by special constables who were protecting the police station.
Lol, you confirm only 3 mass shootings. How many in the US since 1996 where you have nothing but law abiding good guys owning the firearms!!

As for shootings that don't qualify as mass shootings, can you highlight your stats to the Aussies since 1996. You will need a supercomputer to work out the % figure you guys enjoy.
 
Lol, you confirm only 3 mass shootings. How many in the US since 1996 where you have nothing but law abiding good guys owning the firearms!!

As for shootings that don't qualify as mass shootings, can you highlight your stats to the Aussies since 1996. You will need a supercomputer to work out the % figure you guys enjoy.


Moron...did you see the list.......the only reason most of those weren't mass public shootings is the shooter couldn't hit what he was shooting at.........

We had 6 mass public shootings in 2021..... 2 in 2020, you doofus.

In a country of over 350 million people.

Meanwhile....normal Americans with their legal guns use them each year about 1.1 million times to stop rapes, robberies, beatings, stabbings, murders, kidnappings, mass public shootings....

And all those people with guns keep our government from murdering us the way the european governments did to you guys...
 
If someone wants to kill themself, that's up to them. If someone wants to read a book, it's up to them. Just like you, we cannot control laws which is why you constantly make false assumptions. I think a law on reading the wrong book to be daft, but I'm not familiar with that story. As for Facebook, it's something I don't do, nor recommend to anyone. Post what you like on Facebook.

If there's a law against saying mean things on Facebook and people feel strongly against this, then everyone will vote for the political candidate who will remove the, "Saying Mean Things Act". Again, I ain't familiar with the mean story thing.
And yet your government throws people in jail for reading the "wrong" books
 
Did you know, if you apply for a shotgun, the government via the police cannot stop you from owning one. They have to have a reason to decline a shotgun certificate. So the only person that can stop you, is you. So if you have a clean police history, nothing on your driving record that would affect the outcome (say caught using your car as a weapon, deliberately driving at someone), your medical history is fine, and the referees you give check out, then you can go buy a shotgun. If you fucked up on any of those, then you've given the police to not grant you a certificate.

If you want a fire arm, such as a long barrel handgun, a rifle, an Uzi etc.. then it's up to you to prove you need one. So if you have a clean background, your job as a pest controller requires one, you're part of a gun club, you have the land and vermin that requires one etc... , then it's likely you will be granted one. If you want one because you're paranoid about violence and thus need it for self defence, or you just like the look of a rifle, then forget it mate.

And if you are declined, yet you're squeaky clean, and good reason for a firearm, I can guarantee it you would get a fair trial in the UK if you sued the government and/or police, because the judicial system is so anal in following the law, even the government lose court cases.

So now your knowledge is updated, your future posts will reflect this. But as you are American........no fucking chance.
Like I said you have no right to own a firearm.

And yes your government can prevent you from owning one and not only that the local cops can change the rules anytime they want to.

But you enjoy having to get permission from the fucking government for every little thing you do.

Americans aren't brainwashed into thinking that which is why you will never understand us.
 

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