Growing support for same sex marriages from all religions. (bar evangelicals)

[ding]

The law rendered your view irrelevant.

Technically it hasn't. No law was written.

But let's say there was a law that was written? So what? We also had laws which said slaves were property to be disposed of at the will of its owner.

And we have a court ruling which say that human life does not begin at conception.

So just because there are laws or rulings that doesn't meant they are correct of logical.

 

[ding]

You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

You should win a prize for being so consistently wrong.

This fails as a red herring fallacy.

No state has a marriage law that accommodates three or more persons.

All the states have marriage law that accommodates two consenting adult partners not related to each other in a contract recognized by the state – same- or opposite-sex; the Constitutional violation occurred when states sought to deny same-sex couples access to that marriage law.

Then based on your logic they are discriminating against polygamists.

 

[Lysistrata]

Emerging Consensus on LGBT Issues: Findings From the 2017 American Values Atlas | PRRI

Since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2015 that same sex couples have a constitutional right to marry, support for same-sex marriage has increased substantially. Currently, more than six in ten (61%) Americans say gay and lesbian couples should be able to marry legally, while only about half as many (30%) are opposed.
't b
Strength of support for same-sex marriage has increased dramatically over the past decade, while strength of opposition has fallen in nearly equal measure. Today, Americans who strongly favor same-sex marriage outnumber those who strongly oppose it by more than a two-to-one margin (30% vs. 14%). In 2007, only 13% of the public strongly favored same-sex marriage, while nearly one-quarter (24%) strongly opposed it.1 Much of this shift has occurred within the last five years. As recently as 2013, more than four in ten (42%) Americans opposed same-sex marriage, including about one in four (23%) who strongly opposed it.2 Over the last five years, strong supporters of same-sex marriage increased only modestly, from 25% to 30%.

Even the majority of Muslims are supportive. it looks like the battle is won in the US.

Just what is the point of one group of people deciding that another group of people can't, or shouldn't be, legally married? Why would any sane person have an interest in this "question,' anyway"?

 

[ding]

I'm all for letting each state decide. That way if you don't like what your state decides you can leave. Same for abortion.

What better way than to let each state serve as an experiment to see which provide better outcomes?

 

[ding]

I don't believe they have. If you want an example of that you would have to go back to after the civil war when democrats refused to acknowledge that blacks were citizens after the 13th amendment and refused the right to marry. That was discrimination.

What you are describing isn't discrimination because the law was applied equally to all the exact same way.

Thank you for acknowledging that your head is so far up that smelly place where the sun don't shine

The regulation of LGBT employment discrimination in the United States varies by jurisdiction. Many, but far from all, states and localities prohibit bias in hiring, promotion, job assignment, termination, and compensation, as well as harassment on the basis of one's sexual orientation. Fewer extend those protections to cover sexual identity.
LGBT employment discrimination in the United States - Wikiped…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_employment_discrimina…

And then you think that you can get away with interjecting a red herring fallacy about southern democrats and blacks during the Jim Crow era? Just another logical fallacy. Besides being a red herring its a false equivalence fallacy. I'm not taking the bait.

False equivalence? That's what you are doing.

Blacks were denied marriage period. People who prefer to have sex with the same gender were not denied the right to marriage.

Gays are still not allowed to marry in some places. I bet one of them is where you live.

The 13 states that still ban same-sex marriage - CNN

Sure they can. Just like everyone else. The restriction to marry is the same for all. One man one woman. You can be gay and get married the same as everyone else. That was not true for blacks after the civil war.

That argument was laughed at by the courts

That argument was never made. If it had been made then polygamy would be legal based upon your logic.

 

[G.T.]

This kind of herrrpppdeeederrrr idiocy, purposefully missing the point to be an obtuse, degenerate twat...is why your intellectual superiors are overtaking your poorly laid out, lazy as fuck views.

No. I believe it is exactly on point. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex.

Cool opinion, it's arrogant and backward. Wanna know what the law thinks of your cool opinion on this matter? It told it to go fuck itself, and gays can marry freely. Hopefully that doesnt sit well, but my kids are in an improved Country in that regard.

Again, no one is saying a man who prefers to have sex with the same gender is being barred from marrying a woman. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex.

You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

You dont have to repeat yourself, dingerred. The law rendered your view irrelevant. If you have such a wahh wahh about the skeery gays getting married, grow a pair of balls and go be an activist. p.s., youre sucha fag

Winning arguments get repeated until you make an argument which defeats it. Deal with it.

Which is why you want to make this about something it is not.

I don't have any thing against gay people at all. I have friends that are gay.

You need to make it personal because you have no logical response.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Emerging Consensus on LGBT Issues: Findings From the 2017 American Values Atlas | PRRI

Since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2015 that same sex couples have a constitutional right to marry, support for same-sex marriage has increased substantially. Currently, more than six in ten (61%) Americans say gay and lesbian couples should be able to marry legally, while only about half as many (30%) are opposed.
't b
Strength of support for same-sex marriage has increased dramatically over the past decade, while strength of opposition has fallen in nearly equal measure. Today, Americans who strongly favor same-sex marriage outnumber those who strongly oppose it by more than a two-to-one margin (30% vs. 14%). In 2007, only 13% of the public strongly favored same-sex marriage, while nearly one-quarter (24%) strongly opposed it.1 Much of this shift has occurred within the last five years. As recently as 2013, more than four in ten (42%) Americans opposed same-sex marriage, including about one in four (23%) who strongly opposed it.2 Over the last five years, strong supporters of same-sex marriage increased only modestly, from 25% to 30%.

Even the majority of Muslims are supportive. it looks like the battle is won in the US.

Just what is the point of one group of people deciding that another group of people can't, or shouldn't be, legally married? Why would any sane person have an interest in this "question,' anyway"?

Apparently its a threat to marriage and the survival of the species. Not sure what the threat is but my marriage has only ever been threatened by my shortcomings. Shortcomings that Mrs Tainant has been helpful in pointing out, at length, on a regular basis.

 

[Lysistrata]

I'm all for letting each state decide. That way if you don't like what your state decides you can leave. Same for abortion.

What better way than to let each state serve as an experiment to see which provide better outcomes?

Why should a state decide. These are private matters. Donnie screws malenia, mickey screw karen, don't they?

 

[G.T.]

The law rendered your view irrelevant.

Technically it hasn't. No law was written.

But let's say there was a law that was written? So what? We also had laws which said slaves were property to be disposed of at the will of its owner.

And we have a court ruling which say that human life does not begin at conception.

So just because there are laws or rulings that doesn't meant they are correct of logical.

Marriage is not a concept that can be proven correct or incorrect in an ultimate sense you fucking dunce. All thats relevant is the way that it is recognized because its a societal construct, religious and secular.

Does it escape you that marriage is a human invention....or??

lol logical and correct

 

[ding]

No. I believe it is exactly on point. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex.

Cool opinion, it's arrogant and backward. Wanna know what the law thinks of your cool opinion on this matter? It told it to go fuck itself, and gays can marry freely. Hopefully that doesnt sit well, but my kids are in an improved Country in that regard.

Again, no one is saying a man who prefers to have sex with the same gender is being barred from marrying a woman. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex.

You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

You dont have to repeat yourself, dingerred. The law rendered your view irrelevant. If you have such a wahh wahh about the skeery gays getting married, grow a pair of balls and go be an activist. p.s., youre sucha fag

Winning arguments get repeated until you make an argument which defeats it. Deal with it.

Which is why you want to make this about something it is not.

I don't have any thing against gay people at all. I have friends that are gay.

You need to make it personal because you have no logical response.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

I'm not pro opposite sex marriage. I am pro-standards. I did present the reasoning. You have failed to defeat it.

No one has denied a person who prefers to have sex with the same gender from marrying someone from the opposite gender. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex. You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

You need to attack me personally because you have no logical argument. So you lash out because you are angry.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

And none of that stops them from being together, GT.

 

[Andylusion]

Emerging Consensus on LGBT Issues: Findings From the 2017 American Values Atlas | PRRI

Since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2015 that same sex couples have a constitutional right to marry, support for same-sex marriage has increased substantially. Currently, more than six in ten (61%) Americans say gay and lesbian couples should be able to marry legally, while only about half as many (30%) are opposed.

Strength of support for same-sex marriage has increased dramatically over the past decade, while strength of opposition has fallen in nearly equal measure. Today, Americans who strongly favor same-sex marriage outnumber those who strongly oppose it by more than a two-to-one margin (30% vs. 14%). In 2007, only 13% of the public strongly favored same-sex marriage, while nearly one-quarter (24%) strongly opposed it.1 Much of this shift has occurred within the last five years. As recently as 2013, more than four in ten (42%) Americans opposed same-sex marriage, including about one in four (23%) who strongly opposed it.2 Over the last five years, strong supporters of same-sex marriage increased only modestly, from 25% to 30%.

Even the majority of Muslims are supportive. it looks like the battle is won in the US.

This is expected. Evangelicals are true Christians, who believe that G-d determines right and wrong, not man.

All other religions are false, and thus prone to sway with the opinion of the masses.

Remember, the Bible itself says that true Christians will be persecuted before the end, and that the rest of humanity will become part of the one-world religion.

As far as I can tell, you just posted direct evidence supporting that.

 

[ding]

The law rendered your view irrelevant.

Technically it hasn't. No law was written.

But let's say there was a law that was written? So what? We also had laws which said slaves were property to be disposed of at the will of its owner.

And we have a court ruling which say that human life does not begin at conception.

So just because there are laws or rulings that doesn't meant they are correct of logical.

Marriage is not a concept that can be proven correct or incorrect in an ultimate sense you fucking dunce. All thats relevant is the way that it is recognized because its a societal construct, religious and secular.

Does it escape you that marriage is a human invention....or??

lol logical and correct

Which is why the government shouldn't be writing laws for or against marriage or have any say so in it whatsoever. And if they do, it should be done at the state level so we can see exactly which outcomes produce the greatest success.

 

[G.T.]

Cool opinion, it's arrogant and backward. Wanna know what the law thinks of your cool opinion on this matter? It told it to go fuck itself, and gays can marry freely. Hopefully that doesnt sit well, but my kids are in an improved Country in that regard.

Again, no one is saying a man who prefers to have sex with the same gender is being barred from marrying a woman. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex.

You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

You dont have to repeat yourself, dingerred. The law rendered your view irrelevant. If you have such a wahh wahh about the skeery gays getting married, grow a pair of balls and go be an activist. p.s., youre sucha fag

Winning arguments get repeated until you make an argument which defeats it. Deal with it.

Which is why you want to make this about something it is not.

I don't have any thing against gay people at all. I have friends that are gay.

You need to make it personal because you have no logical response.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

I'm not pro opposite sex marriage. I am pro-standards. I did present the reasoning. You have failed to defeat it.

No one has denied a person who prefers to have sex with the same gender from marrying someone from the opposite gender. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex. You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

You need to attack me personally because you have no logical argument. So you lash out because you are angry.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

And none of that stops them from being together, GT.

Cool story dingerred...Im glad that I respect your gay friends' right to marry one another while youre a two faced twat about it...but you arent that bright so......oh well!

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Cool opinion, it's arrogant and backward. Wanna know what the law thinks of your cool opinion on this matter? It told it to go fuck itself, and gays can marry freely. Hopefully that doesnt sit well, but my kids are in an improved Country in that regard.

Again, no one is saying a man who prefers to have sex with the same gender is being barred from marrying a woman. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex.

You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

You dont have to repeat yourself, dingerred. The law rendered your view irrelevant. If you have such a wahh wahh about the skeery gays getting married, grow a pair of balls and go be an activist. p.s., youre sucha fag

Winning arguments get repeated until you make an argument which defeats it. Deal with it.

Which is why you want to make this about something it is not.

I don't have any thing against gay people at all. I have friends that are gay.

You need to make it personal because you have no logical response.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

I'm not pro opposite sex marriage. I am pro-standards. I did present the reasoning. You have failed to defeat it.

No one has denied a person who prefers to have sex with the same gender from marrying someone from the opposite gender. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex. You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

You need to attack me personally because you have no logical argument. So you lash out because you are angry.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

And none of that stops them from being together, GT.

But that should apply to people wanting to marry people of the same sex. You seem to skirt this issue.

 

[ding]

The federal government has way over stepped its bounds on a number of societal issues.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Emerging Consensus on LGBT Issues: Findings From the 2017 American Values Atlas | PRRI

Since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2015 that same sex couples have a constitutional right to marry, support for same-sex marriage has increased substantially. Currently, more than six in ten (61%) Americans say gay and lesbian couples should be able to marry legally, while only about half as many (30%) are opposed.

Strength of support for same-sex marriage has increased dramatically over the past decade, while strength of opposition has fallen in nearly equal measure. Today, Americans who strongly favor same-sex marriage outnumber those who strongly oppose it by more than a two-to-one margin (30% vs. 14%). In 2007, only 13% of the public strongly favored same-sex marriage, while nearly one-quarter (24%) strongly opposed it.1 Much of this shift has occurred within the last five years. As recently as 2013, more than four in ten (42%) Americans opposed same-sex marriage, including about one in four (23%) who strongly opposed it.2 Over the last five years, strong supporters of same-sex marriage increased only modestly, from 25% to 30%.

Even the majority of Muslims are supportive. it looks like the battle is won in the US.

This is expected. Evangelicals are true Christians, who believe that G-d determines right and wrong, not man.

All other religions are false, and thus prone to sway with the opinion of the masses.

Remember, the Bible itself says that true Christians will be persecuted before the end, and that the rest of humanity will become part of the one-world religion.

As far as I can tell, you just posted direct evidence supporting that.

So a billion hindus are living in sin ?

 

[ding]

Again, no one is saying a man who prefers to have sex with the same gender is being barred from marrying a woman. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex.

You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

You dont have to repeat yourself, dingerred. The law rendered your view irrelevant. If you have such a wahh wahh about the skeery gays getting married, grow a pair of balls and go be an activist. p.s., youre sucha fag

Winning arguments get repeated until you make an argument which defeats it. Deal with it.

Which is why you want to make this about something it is not.

I don't have any thing against gay people at all. I have friends that are gay.

You need to make it personal because you have no logical response.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

I'm not pro opposite sex marriage. I am pro-standards. I did present the reasoning. You have failed to defeat it.

No one has denied a person who prefers to have sex with the same gender from marrying someone from the opposite gender. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex. You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

You need to attack me personally because you have no logical argument. So you lash out because you are angry.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

And none of that stops them from being together, GT.

Cool story dingerred...Im glad that I respect your gay friends' right to marry one another while youre a two faced twat about it...but you arent that bright so......oh well!

I'm not a two faced twat about it. I have very good reasons for my beliefs. Reasons you have yet to defeat which is why you are acting like a child who isn't getting his way instead of an adult who is having a conversation with someone who has an honest difference of opinion.

 

[G.T.]

The law rendered your view irrelevant.

Technically it hasn't. No law was written.

But let's say there was a law that was written? So what? We also had laws which said slaves were property to be disposed of at the will of its owner.

And we have a court ruling which say that human life does not begin at conception.

So just because there are laws or rulings that doesn't meant they are correct of logical.

Marriage is not a concept that can be proven correct or incorrect in an ultimate sense you fucking dunce. All thats relevant is the way that it is recognized because its a societal construct, religious and secular.

Does it escape you that marriage is a human invention....or??

lol logical and correct

Which is why the government shouldn't be writing laws for or against marriage or have any say so in it whatsoever. And if they do, it should be done at the state level so we can see exactly which outcomes produce the greatest success.

Success of outcomes is not a valid reasoning to deny equal access to government institutions, and since a main component of marriage is sex and attraction, when a human is being honest (read:not a weaselly dipshit), saying "gays have equal rights cuz they can marry opposite sex!!" is an intellectually dishonest counter and has been ruled same by your superiors. Now whine.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Do you really have your head so far up that smelly place where the sun don't shine as to not know that gay folks have been, and are in some ways still discriminated against? Or, are you just lying?

I don't believe they have. If you want an example of that you would have to go back to after the civil war when democrats refused to acknowledge that blacks were citizens after the 13th amendment and refused the right to marry. That was discrimination.

What you are describing isn't discrimination because the law was applied equally to all the exact same way.

Thank you for acknowledging that your head is so far up that smelly place where the sun don't shine

The regulation of LGBT employment discrimination in the United States varies by jurisdiction. Many, but far from all, states and localities prohibit bias in hiring, promotion, job assignment, termination, and compensation, as well as harassment on the basis of one's sexual orientation. Fewer extend those protections to cover sexual identity.
LGBT employment discrimination in the United States - Wikiped…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_employment_discrimina…

And then you think that you can get away with interjecting a red herring fallacy about southern democrats and blacks during the Jim Crow era? Just another logical fallacy. Besides being a red herring its a false equivalence fallacy. I'm not taking the bait.

False equivalence? That's what you are doing.

Blacks were denied marriage period. People who prefer to have sex with the same gender were not denied the right to marriage.

Gays are still not allowed to marry in some places. I bet one of them is where you live.

The 13 states that still ban same-sex marriage - CNN

Sure they can. Just like everyone else. The restriction to marry is the same for all. One man one woman. You can be gay and get married the same as everyone else. That was not true for blacks after the civil war.

Are you really so fucking stupid as to believe that gay people still cannot get married in 13 states? I thought that Taz was the only one that retarded as to think that.

 

[G.T.]

You dont have to repeat yourself, dingerred. The law rendered your view irrelevant. If you have such a wahh wahh about the skeery gays getting married, grow a pair of balls and go be an activist. p.s., youre sucha fag

Winning arguments get repeated until you make an argument which defeats it. Deal with it.

Which is why you want to make this about something it is not.

I don't have any thing against gay people at all. I have friends that are gay.

You need to make it personal because you have no logical response.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

If you think you can present the pressing reason behind being pro opposite sex marriage and anti same sex marriage without being a bigoted douchelord, youre incorrect.

I'm not pro opposite sex marriage. I am pro-standards. I did present the reasoning. You have failed to defeat it.

No one has denied a person who prefers to have sex with the same gender from marrying someone from the opposite gender. Laws applied equally do not discriminate. There is no test for being gay. Being gay is not a class of people. Being gay is a sexual preference for people of the same sex. You might as well being arguing for polygamy which is also a preference without a class of people.

Further, I dont argue with you in earnst because you have the intellectual wherewithall of a teenager. Which is evident fron past dealings, as well as being one of those slippery tongued weasels who think that GAYS having access to STRAIGHT marriage is some novel point in the debate when it completely dodges the point. Its toddler brained fucking nonsense, and its now been defeated in court.

You need to attack me personally because you have no logical argument. So you lash out because you are angry.

Wanna know why?

Heres why, dummy. Because a part of being married is typically SEX and ATTRACTION, dingerred.

You can dip, duck dodge and weasel around that being the case ~ but its the same kinda douchey vacuous bullshit that makes your debate skills bottom tier.

And none of that stops them from being together, GT.

Cool story dingerred...Im glad that I respect your gay friends' right to marry one another while youre a two faced twat about it...but you arent that bright so......oh well!

I'm not a two faced twat about it. I have very good reasons for my beliefs. Reasons you have yet to defeat which is why you are acting like a child who isn't getting his way instead of an adult who is having a conversation with someone who has an honest difference of opinion.

Your reasons are vacuous and disengenuous. Theyre also over. This is me and gay couples gloating in the face of your ignorance....hopefully the butthurt continues to flow through you. I much enjoy it.