growing Islamophobia

[Coyote]

Are Christian abortion bombers Christian?

Compare the number of things like that to Muslim terrorism incidents, please.

No they're not.

So, it's determined by "numbers"?

Come on - regardless of how you look at it, these violent extremists are a minority of the entire faith yet the entire faith gets broad brushed.

That's where you're wrong.

The violent ones are the most devout to the "religion"

Read their texts sometime.

Al-Qur'an al-Kareem - القرآن الكريم

I find the Bible full of horrific violence, intolerance, sanctioning of rape but I seriously doubt many Christians follow those "devotions".

Such as? Is that the current biblical prescription for today?

Where in the bible does it support rape?

I've read it through 3x. Never seen that.

God, the Bible, and Rape | HuffPost

 

[Pogo]

So, anyway, back at the ranch. I am a islamaphobe, but I don't condone violence. It's why I am against Islam, a hoodoo made up religion that uses violence as a hedge because their made up religion needs people to strap on bombs , slash people with knives harming innocent people (ironic, isn't it?) to prove how good they are. Islam is a last bastion of the scoundrel, to use a popular phrase.

See, that's the fallacy right there (one of them) -- the false premise your entire post is built on.

And the reference doesn't make sense anyway --- the guy slashing people with knives does not appear to be a Muslim, considering his posts wanting to kill them and anybody else who doesn't follow "the love of Jesus Christ" <--- there's your irony btw. Bigly.

NOT that that means we must in turn blame Christianism for Christian. That would be as fallacious as blaming Islam. That is in fact why I keep asking, sarcastically, if anybody had said "the solution is simple --- nuke the Vatican" upon learning the identity of Eric Rudolph (or for that matter, Adolf Hitler).

That's the Double Standard that keeps getting reiterated even when it's called out, to wit: When "we" do it (Jeremy Christian, Robert Dear, Eric Rudolph, the Klan, etc) they're "outliers" who absolutely don't represent their religion. They're sick, they're drugged, they're mentally ill. But then when "they" do it (al Qaeda, DAESH, 9/11 hijackers etc) suddenly they become absolute paragons of their religion, completely honest in their faith, and therefore the religion itself is a 'made up religion that needs people to strap on bombs". That doesn't wash, and it never will.

NONE of these people act out of their religion; they act in spite of it. They act out of politics. That's what terrorism is about.

The last terrorist bombing in Manchester was done by the IRA. They didn't do it because Catholicism is a "made up hoodoo religion that needs people to bomb". They did it because they wanted the Brits out of their island. I mean DUH.

I DESPISE VIOLENCE. That is my premise. I despise the IRA and their ilk, always have.

Of course, we all agree on that (OK maybe I shouldn't say "all" but I do).

The point is when the IRA were active in terrorism --- which went on for years and years ---- nobody blamed it on "Catholicism" did they.

 

[Issa]

It's funny because....as a Muslim I consider myself practicing Muslim. Me and my other Muslims friends in my circle we are well integrated in American society. Till we hit the Internet and we see the accusations and sort. It kinda throws me off if this is real or I'm dreaming lol

Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration? Young able workers, brains, and so forth....
And you have to see past the religion, we are humans. There are Muslims in NASA, and in most prestigious companies. You know why because they have brains and ambition's like everyone else.

Most of the Islamic Golden Age clearly took from earlier civilizations.

Besides.

Muslim nations once had much bigger populations than Northern Europe, now they don't.

This is largely because of a few factors, being the Plague hit the Middle-East harder, the Mongols, and then Colonialism built up many European populations..

Now we can see that Northern Europeans are way ahead.

"Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration?"

Horsecrap Ahmed.

Where are you getting this from you Moroccan Camel Jockey, you're in California, California is nowhere near Europa.

Why insult him? He's being civil.

I have a right to insult those who insult my intelligence. Period.

Sure, we all have the right to insult others but why not address him? He's made the statement that Europe has benefited from Muslim migration - refute it.

It just seems to me whenever we have a Muslim member - they get driven off and dog piled by stuff like this - "camel jockey" and other insults (if they were flinging similar insults, then I'd have no problem) but it's nice to get views from someone who is a Muslim, has been around the world, and - has something interesting to say. That's just the way I see it.

 

[Pogo]

Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration? Young able workers, brains, and so forth....
And you have to see past the religion, we are humans. There are Muslims in NASA, and in most prestigious companies. You know why because they have brains and ambition's like everyone else.

"Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration?"

Horsecrap Ahmed.

Where are you getting this from you Moroccan Camel Jockey, you're in California, California is nowhere near Europa.

Why insult him? He's being civil.

I have a right to insult those who insult my intelligence. Period.

You do have a right to insult, it is free speech. But insults are not a sign of intelligence. So, without trying to sound rude, how can you repay stupidity with stupidity?

I don't often insult people, I'm not an attack poster Coyote tell Etherion that I'm not prone to insulting people.

Some issues get people passionate, the Anti-Islamisation of The West side are as committed and as strong in our opinion as the Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleaders are in theirs.

Neither side is going to blink in this, it's impossible to even find some common ground, it'll come to blood and guts just like it has many times in the past.

That's funny Oosie. In your first paragraph you go "I don't insult people" and in the next, you insult people.

And whem I say "funny" I mean in the sense of "peculiar".

 

[Coyote]

Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration? Young able workers, brains, and so forth....
And you have to see past the religion, we are humans. There are Muslims in NASA, and in most prestigious companies. You know why because they have brains and ambition's like everyone else.

"Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration?"

Horsecrap Ahmed.

Where are you getting this from you Moroccan Camel Jockey, you're in California, California is nowhere near Europa.

Why insult him? He's being civil.

I have a right to insult those who insult my intelligence. Period.

You do have a right to insult, it is free speech. But insults are not a sign of intelligence. So, without trying to sound rude, how can you repay stupidity with stupidity?

I don't often insult people, I'm not an attack poster Coyote tell Etherion that I'm not prone to insulting people.

Some issues get people passionate, the Anti-Islamisation of The West side are as committed and as strong in our opinion as the Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleaders are in theirs.

Neither side is going to blink in this, it's impossible to even find some common ground, it'll come to blood and guts just like it has many times in the past.

We can make common ground here if we're willing...and I've seen you do that many times. I agree, this is a passionate issue (much like abortion) - but look at what people like Issa says, not at the Muslim Label. Isn't it possible to discuss these things without being labeled "bigot" on the one side or "Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleaders" on the other? There must be ground in between.

 

[Coyote]

The terrorists are not representing Muslims or Islam ...you created that monster and fed you deal with it. I'm off to the gym!!!

Two men have been killed as they tried to stop a man abusing two women who appeared to be Muslim, police in the US city of Portland say.

The abusive man turned on the two men and fatally stabbed them, police said.


The Council on American-Islamic Relations urged President Trump to speak out against increasing Islamophobia in the US.


It accused the president of exacerbating the trend with his statements and policies.


Police have identified the suspect as Jeremy Joseph Christian, 35. He has been charged with offences including aggravated murder, attempted murder, intimidation and being a felon in possession of a restricted weapon.

"Suspect was on the train and he was yelling and ranting and raving a lot of different things, including what would be characterised as hate speech or biased language," said Sgt Pete Simpson.


"In the midst of his ranting and raving, some people approached him, appeared to try to intervene with his behaviour. Some of the people that he was yelling at, they were attacked viciously by the suspect, resulting in the two deaths and one injury."

Jeremy Joseph Christian was arrested shortly after he got off the train. The two women he was abusing - one of whom was said by eyewitnesses to have been wearing a headscarf - left the scene before police could speak to them.

However one of the girls' parents later told the Oregonian newspaper that they were teenagers, one black and one Muslim.

Dyjuana Hudson said the attacker "was saying that Muslims should die."



















Portland deaths: Two stabbed trying to stop anti-Muslim abuse - BBC News

This forum should get a new section, it could be called:

The Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleading Section.

Once again we see a lot of The Usual Suspects, along with the usual Trolls and the Mental Midgets in tow again all falling over themselves and dribbling to see which can Praise ******* Allah the most and lick Islams filthy buttocks.

Disgusting display again, the slaughtered children and teenagers of Manchester, England are still in the mortuary and another disgraceful Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleading is started.

Also nobody has Islamophobia, a phobia is a fear of something.

We do not fear Islam, we hate Islam, why shouldn't we hate Islamists when they are committed to slaughtering as many of us as possible, whilst socially crippled and emotionally stunted Leftists have multiple orgasms at the thought of their 7th Century savage pets slaughtering more of us.

I don't give a crap if some Muslims get beaten up, tough, share your Play Doh with them.

I give a crap about ANY INNOCENT people getting beaten up for no reason except they are off a certain faith, ethnicity, race, or sexual orientation. Why on earth is that acceptable?

If the Muslims do not want to risk getting beaten up then they should take to the streets en masse and demand that their brothers and sisters ******* start acting like HUMAN BEINGS and not ******* knuckledragging savages who blow our people up and cut heads off and burn people alive and hang gays and throw gays off rooftops and bury people alive and rape little boys and little girls and treat women lower than dogs.

The Mediterranean race invented genocide, war, and slavery.... These things were not present in Mesolithic Europe, but entered Europe by Neolithic Near-Eastern immigrants.

Oh really?

I think it's part of humanity - not of any one "race".

 

[Pogo]

There are two kinds of muslims. There are radical muslims who want to kill you. There are moderate peaceful muslims who don't want to kill you. They want the radical muslims to kill you.

So he killed some muslim and muslim supporters, what's the problem? Probably prevented a terrorist attack.

I'm not ignoring the fact they're muslim. I just don't care.

Hitler targeted the Jews, but he was wrong. It was the Muslims he should have targeted.

The founders didn't create this country for Muslims. Read the Naturalization Act of 1790. They shouldn't be here.

Notice to muslims.

Christians in America aren't that easy to kill. We have totally insane whacked out white supremacists ready to cap your ass. You won't know who they are or where they are. They are insane and everywhere. Proceed at your own risk.

Those who have allowed the enemy in the gates and who continue to advocate on their behalf will suffer the fate reserved for all traitors, Muslims need to be made to feel unwelcome so that they will leave of their own accord they have no business in the west, the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

So the **** What. You are boring me....................

This Comparison is supposed to make up for all the shit Radical Islam is doing in the World. Utter BS.

They are killing and fighting in Africa, the Middle East, Asia, the Pacific Rim..........even cases in South America.........

They are targeting Western Nations.......and Nations like the Phillipines..........

It is NOW A GLOBAL FIGHT................And it doesn't have a ******* THING TO DO WITH THE INCIDENT IN OREGON..

About to iggy your dumb ass...........Have a nice day.

One of the victims killed by the Trump voter was an Army veteran, you ******* *****. Rot in hell, all of you.

Yeah right. Calling people a c+nt? Is this the NEW liberalism? Excusing misogyny and religious extremism? All under the umbrella of American liberalism? Wow, what a bunch of hypocrites. You people love the thing that would destroy you.

I uh, don't think g5000 would call himself a "liberal". You seem to have quite the penchant for making up strawmen.

Oh look, here comes another example:

I am a rational human being, I am a rationalist. Islam is religion of the irrational. Muslims, they would kill me because of that, I know that. Islam doesn't tolerate freedom of thought. So hence, I am an Islamophobic . They would kill us all.

Perhaps I should rephrase --- you seem to have a penchant for making up hallucinationistic, melodramatic, hair-on-fire strawmen. There, that's better. And I love the way you led off with the ironic "I am a rational human being". Nice touch.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Compare the number of things like that to Muslim terrorism incidents, please.

No they're not.

So, it's determined by "numbers"?

Come on - regardless of how you look at it, these violent extremists are a minority of the entire faith yet the entire faith gets broad brushed.

That's where you're wrong.

The violent ones are the most devout to the "religion"

Read their texts sometime.

Al-Qur'an al-Kareem - القرآن الكريم

I find the Bible full of horrific violence, intolerance, sanctioning of rape but I seriously doubt many Christians follow those "devotions".

Such as? Is that the current biblical prescription for today?

Where in the bible does it support rape?

I've read it through 3x. Never seen that.

God, the Bible, and Rape | HuffPost

Seriously? You link to a Huffington Post article? FAIL!

You must come better than that to be convincing.


Link to actual Bible verses or let it go.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration? Young able workers, brains, and so forth....
And you have to see past the religion, we are humans. There are Muslims in NASA, and in most prestigious companies. You know why because they have brains and ambition's like everyone else.

Most of the Islamic Golden Age clearly took from earlier civilizations.

Besides.

Muslim nations once had much bigger populations than Northern Europe, now they don't.

This is largely because of a few factors, being the Plague hit the Middle-East harder, the Mongols, and then Colonialism built up many European populations..

Now we can see that Northern Europeans are way ahead.

"Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration?"

Horsecrap Ahmed.

Where are you getting this from you Moroccan Camel Jockey, you're in California, California is nowhere near Europa.

Why insult him? He's being civil.

I have a right to insult those who insult my intelligence. Period.

He's made the statement that Europe has benefited from Muslim migration - refute it.

Pretty easy to refute Muslims being a "Benefit" for Britain, using data.

 

[Coyote]

So, it's determined by "numbers"?

Come on - regardless of how you look at it, these violent extremists are a minority of the entire faith yet the entire faith gets broad brushed.

That's where you're wrong.

The violent ones are the most devout to the "religion"

Read their texts sometime.

Al-Qur'an al-Kareem - القرآن الكريم

I find the Bible full of horrific violence, intolerance, sanctioning of rape but I seriously doubt many Christians follow those "devotions".

Such as? Is that the current biblical prescription for today?

Where in the bible does it support rape?

I've read it through 3x. Never seen that.

God, the Bible, and Rape | HuffPost

Seriously? You link to a Huffington Post article? FAIL!

You must come better than that to be convincing.

You didn't even bother to read it?

Rape is condoned in a number of parts of the bible and even called for as part of the rewards (or vengeance) of war. Your Lord has some serious anger management issues

It's there but no one today follows it - just like we don't stone people for adultry in civilized countries. Christianity and Judaism have moved beyond literal interpretations of their holy scriptures.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration? Young able workers, brains, and so forth....
And you have to see past the religion, we are humans. There are Muslims in NASA, and in most prestigious companies. You know why because they have brains and ambition's like everyone else.

"Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration?"

Horsecrap Ahmed.

Where are you getting this from you Moroccan Camel Jockey, you're in California, California is nowhere near Europa.

Why insult him? He's being civil.

I have a right to insult those who insult my intelligence. Period.

You do have a right to insult, it is free speech. But insults are not a sign of intelligence. So, without trying to sound rude, how can you repay stupidity with stupidity?

I don't often insult people, I'm not an attack poster Coyote tell Etherion that I'm not prone to insulting people.

Some issues get people passionate, the Anti-Islamisation of The West side are as committed and as strong in our opinion as the Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleaders are in theirs.

Neither side is going to blink in this, it's impossible to even find some common ground, it'll come to blood and guts just like it has many times in the past.

Wow. That last sentence was very depressing.

Anyway, people are sacrificing rationality for passion in threads like this one. Hence why you see what you see. I'm one of those posters who likes to use the Judo concept of using the momentum of an opponent against them. In this case, their passion and emotion. So if someone starts using insults or emotional arguments against me, I let that speak for itself. I take advantage of it. I thought it better to be the bigger and wiser person in a discussion. True intelligence comes from self restraint, not from instant retaliation. True intelligence is taking advantage of your opponent's flaws without revealing yours. Four years ago I was prone to the same behavior and nearly got myself banned.

And as an aside I really hope we can settle down and not come to blows over this. I genuinely find some of these "nuke them all" posts to be very disturbing. The depths to which hatred can drive someone seems to be boundless.

 

[Marion Morrison]

That's where you're wrong.

The violent ones are the most devout to the "religion"

Read their texts sometime.

Al-Qur'an al-Kareem - القرآن الكريم

I find the Bible full of horrific violence, intolerance, sanctioning of rape but I seriously doubt many Christians follow those "devotions".

Such as? Is that the current biblical prescription for today?

Where in the bible does it support rape?

I've read it through 3x. Never seen that.

God, the Bible, and Rape | HuffPost

Seriously? You link to a Huffington Post article? FAIL!

You must come better than that to be convincing.

You didn't even bother to read it?

Rape is condoned in a number of parts of the bible and even called for as part of the rewards (or vengeance) of war. Your Lord has some serious anger management issues

It's there but no one today follows it - just like we don't stone people for adultry in civilized countries. Christianity and Judaism have moved beyond literal interpretations of their holy scriptures.

Yeah I read it, didn't see anything with real references. All I saw was inferences. There's a difference, believe it or not.

So link to bible verses condoning rape=-? Book, chapter, and verse, please.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

"Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration?"

Horsecrap Ahmed.

Where are you getting this from you Moroccan Camel Jockey, you're in California, California is nowhere near Europa.

Why insult him? He's being civil.

I have a right to insult those who insult my intelligence. Period.

You do have a right to insult, it is free speech. But insults are not a sign of intelligence. So, without trying to sound rude, how can you repay stupidity with stupidity?

I don't often insult people, I'm not an attack poster Coyote tell Etherion that I'm not prone to insulting people.

Some issues get people passionate, the Anti-Islamisation of The West side are as committed and as strong in our opinion as the Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleaders are in theirs.

Neither side is going to blink in this, it's impossible to even find some common ground, it'll come to blood and guts just like it has many times in the past.

That's funny Oosie. In your first paragraph you go "I don't insult people" and in the next, you insult people.

And whem I say "funny" I mean in the sense of "peculiar".

As I already said on rare occasions I have a right to insult those who insult my intelligence.

They post babble and Propaganda, thats insulting my intelligence. Also in that Manchester suicide bombing thread, there was hardly a post Issa made where he wasn't insulting people calling people racist and also his many comments bashing White people.

Muslims are not a race.

A non-White bashing White people, Issa is the racist.

 

[MaryL]

It's funny because....as a Muslim I consider myself practicing Muslim. Me and my other Muslims friends in my circle we are well integrated in American society. Till we hit the Internet and we see the accusations and sort. It kinda throws me off if this is real or I'm dreaming lol

Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration? Young able workers, brains, and so forth....
And you have to see past the religion, we are humans. There are Muslims in NASA, and in most prestigious companies. You know why because they have brains and ambition's like everyone else.

"Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration?"

Horsecrap Ahmed.

Where are you getting this from you Moroccan Camel Jockey, you're in California, California is nowhere near Europa.

Why insult him? He's being civil.

I have a right to insult those who insult my intelligence. Period.

Sure, we all have the right to insult others but why not address him? He's made the statement that Europe has benefited from Muslim migration - refute it.

It just seems to me whenever we have a Muslim member - they get driven off and dog piled by stuff like this - "camel jockey" and other insults (if they were flinging similar insults, then I'd have no problem) but it's nice to get views from someone who is a Muslim, has been around the world, and - has something interesting to say. That's just the way I see it.

Well, you must be a really devout believer

So, anyway, back at the ranch. I am a islamaphobe, but I don't condone violence. It's why I am against Islam, a hoodoo made up religion that uses violence as a hedge because their made up religion needs people to strap on bombs , slash people with knives harming innocent people (ironic, isn't it?) to prove how good they are. Islam is a last bastion of the scoundrel, to use a popular phrase.

See, that's the fallacy right there (one of them) -- the false premise your entire post is built on.

And the reference doesn't make sense anyway --- the guy slashing people with knives does not appear to be a Muslim, considering his posts wanting to kill them and anybody else who doesn't follow "the love of Jesus Christ" <--- there's your irony btw. Bigly.

NOT that that means we must in turn blame Christianism for Christian. That would be as fallacious as blaming Islam. That is in fact why I keep asking, sarcastically, if anybody had said "the solution is simple --- nuke the Vatican" upon learning the identity of Eric Rudolph (or for that matter, Adolf Hitler).

That's the Double Standard that keeps getting reiterated even when it's called out, to wit: When "we" do it (Jeremy Christian, Robert Dear, Eric Rudolph, the Klan, etc) they're "outliers" who absolutely don't represent their religion. They're sick, they're drugged, they're mentally ill. But then when "they" do it (al Qaeda, DAESH, 9/11 hijackers etc) suddenly they become absolute paragons of their religion, completely honest in their faith, and therefore the religion itself is a 'made up religion that needs people to strap on bombs". That doesn't wash, and it never will.

NONE of these people act out of their religion; they act in spite of it. They act out of politics. That's what terrorism is about.

The last terrorist bombing in Manchester was done by the IRA. They didn't do it because Catholicism is a "made up hoodoo religion that needs people to bomb". They did it because they wanted the Brits out of their island. I mean DUH.

I DESPISE VIOLENCE. That is my premise. I despise the IRA and their ilk, always have.

Of course, we all agree on that (OK maybe I shouldn't say "all" but I do).

The point is when the IRA were active in terrorism --- which went on for years and years ---- nobody blamed it on "Catholicism" did they.

The IRA didn't crash planes in the Manhattan, either. No love lost for them but IS deash compared to the Irish republican army and their terrorism? Boy scouts compared to the Islamic state. A local issue to a world wide threat.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

"Way ahead...did you know that most European countries benefited from Muslim migration?"

Horsecrap Ahmed.

Where are you getting this from you Moroccan Camel Jockey, you're in California, California is nowhere near Europa.

Why insult him? He's being civil.

I have a right to insult those who insult my intelligence. Period.

You do have a right to insult, it is free speech. But insults are not a sign of intelligence. So, without trying to sound rude, how can you repay stupidity with stupidity?

I don't often insult people, I'm not an attack poster Coyote tell Etherion that I'm not prone to insulting people.

Some issues get people passionate, the Anti-Islamisation of The West side are as committed and as strong in our opinion as the Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleaders are in theirs.

Neither side is going to blink in this, it's impossible to even find some common ground, it'll come to blood and guts just like it has many times in the past.

We can make common ground here if we're willing...and I've seen you do that many times. I agree, this is a passionate issue (much like abortion) - but look at what people like Issa says, not at the Muslim Label. Isn't it possible to discuss these things without being labeled "bigot" on the one side or "Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleaders" on the other? There must be ground in between.

Do I have a record of insulting people for insulting sake? Do I have a record as an attack poster? Yes or No?

Do I have a record as being one of those who frequently "dog piles" on people? Yes or No?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The terrorists are not representing Muslims or Islam ...you created that monster and fed you deal with it. I'm off to the gym!!!

This forum should get a new section, it could be called:

The Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleading Section.

Once again we see a lot of The Usual Suspects, along with the usual Trolls and the Mental Midgets in tow again all falling over themselves and dribbling to see which can Praise ******* Allah the most and lick Islams filthy buttocks.

Disgusting display again, the slaughtered children and teenagers of Manchester, England are still in the mortuary and another disgraceful Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologist Cheerleading is started.

Also nobody has Islamophobia, a phobia is a fear of something.

We do not fear Islam, we hate Islam, why shouldn't we hate Islamists when they are committed to slaughtering as many of us as possible, whilst socially crippled and emotionally stunted Leftists have multiple orgasms at the thought of their 7th Century savage pets slaughtering more of us.

I don't give a crap if some Muslims get beaten up, tough, share your Play Doh with them.

I give a crap about ANY INNOCENT people getting beaten up for no reason except they are off a certain faith, ethnicity, race, or sexual orientation. Why on earth is that acceptable?

If the Muslims do not want to risk getting beaten up then they should take to the streets en masse and demand that their brothers and sisters ******* start acting like HUMAN BEINGS and not ******* knuckledragging savages who blow our people up and cut heads off and burn people alive and hang gays and throw gays off rooftops and bury people alive and rape little boys and little girls and treat women lower than dogs.

The Mediterranean race invented genocide, war, and slavery.... These things were not present in Mesolithic Europe, but entered Europe by Neolithic Near-Eastern immigrants.

Oh really?

I think it's part of humanity - not of any one "race".

Slavery in antiquity - Wikipedia

Jebel Sahaba - Wikipedia

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

I find the Bible full of horrific violence, intolerance, sanctioning of rape but I seriously doubt many Christians follow those "devotions".

Such as? Is that the current biblical prescription for today?

Where in the bible does it support rape?

I've read it through 3x. Never seen that.

God, the Bible, and Rape | HuffPost

Seriously? You link to a Huffington Post article? FAIL!

You must come better than that to be convincing.

You didn't even bother to read it?

Rape is condoned in a number of parts of the bible and even called for as part of the rewards (or vengeance) of war. Your Lord has some serious anger management issues

It's there but no one today follows it - just like we don't stone people for adultry in civilized countries. Christianity and Judaism have moved beyond literal interpretations of their holy scriptures.

Yeah I read it, didn't see anything with real references. All I saw was inferences. There's a difference, believe it or not.

So link to bible verses condoning rape=-? Book, chapter, and verse, please.

Most Christians do not take The Bible in a literal sense.

Most Muslims do take The Qur'an in a literal sense.

So for people to bring The Bible into this is completely ridiculous. Also most Leftist Pro-Islamist Apologists are Athiests or just straight up God Haters, this is why they always have to bring The Bible and Christians into their deflection away from their love in with Islam, it's their favourite deflection and they're crap at it, they are crap at deflection in general.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

That's where you're wrong.

The violent ones are the most devout to the "religion"

Read their texts sometime.

Al-Qur'an al-Kareem - القرآن الكريم

I find the Bible full of horrific violence, intolerance, sanctioning of rape but I seriously doubt many Christians follow those "devotions".

Such as? Is that the current biblical prescription for today?

Where in the bible does it support rape?

I've read it through 3x. Never seen that.

God, the Bible, and Rape | HuffPost

Seriously? You link to a Huffington Post article? FAIL!

You must come better than that to be convincing.

You didn't even bother to read it?

Rape is condoned in a number of parts of the bible and even called for as part of the rewards (or vengeance) of war. Your Lord has some serious anger management issues

It's there but no one today follows it - just like we don't stone people for adultry in civilized countries. Christianity and Judaism have moved beyond literal interpretations of their holy scriptures.

I guess that such attitudes appealed to early Semites, and still appeal to modern pure Semites, huh?

 

[Pogo]

Doesn't the fact that two people were willing to put their lives in danger to intercede on the woman's behalf contradict the premise of the thread?

Uhh nnnnnnnnnnno. It's not my title but obviously his point is that "Islamophobia" (again, not the best term, he really means bigotry) is what drove the perp to start all this shit, without which everybody on the train simply goes where they're going and none of us ever hear of it.

When they stand up to chill the bigot, there's nothing about "Islam" in that. That's just three citizens trying to keep the peace. The "Islamophobia" is what drove Jeremy Christian. Frankly with the title he chose one might expect a recounting of several similar incidents, this one being the most recent.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Most Christians do not take The Bible in a literal sense.

The fundamentalists do.

Those freaks at Westboro Baptist Church do for example. They are what we would call our extremists, Christian in name only. They are not indicative of the proclivities of all of Christianity.

So, why wouldn't that also be true for Islam?