Greece Near Bankrupcy

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Timebomb for the Euro: Greek Debt Poses a Danger to Common Currency - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

As economic indicators have improved, concern about the financial crisis has abated. But the next big problem could be approaching. Greece's public deficit is skyrocketing and the country may become insolvent. The effect on Europe's common currency could be dire.

Josef Ackermann, the CEO of Deutsche Bank, has given the all-clear signal many times in the past. He has repeatedly said that the worst was over, only to see the financial crisis strengthen its grip on the world economy.

Last week, however, Ackermann was singing a completely different tune. Although many indicators are once again pointing skyward, he said at a Berlin summit on the economy, Chancellor Angela Merkel, the assembled cabinet ministers, corporate CEOs and union leaders should not to be deluded. He warned emphatically that the financial situation could deteriorate once again. "A few time bombs" are still ticking, Ackermann told his audience, noting that the growing problems of highly leveraged small countries could lead to new tremors. And then, almost casually, Ackermann mentioned the problem child of the European financial world by name: Greece.

Ackermann isn't alone in his opinion. Practically unnoticed by the public, an issue has returned to the forefront in recent weeks -- one that was a cause for great concern at the height of the financial crisis but then, as optimism about the economy began to grow, was eventually forgotten: the fear of a national bankruptcy in the euro zone. And the question as to whether such a bankruptcy, should it come about, could destroy the common European currency.

Greece was always at the very top of the list of countries at risk. But now the danger appears to be more acute than ever.
Greece is in dire straits, with total debt at 134% of GDP. The government could go bankrupt within the next six months, threatening the stability of the entire Eurozone.

America's national debt is 85% of its GDP, and is increasing by 10% each year.
 
Timebomb for the Euro: Greek Debt Poses a Danger to Common Currency - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

As economic indicators have improved, concern about the financial crisis has abated. But the next big problem could be approaching. Greece's public deficit is skyrocketing and the country may become insolvent. The effect on Europe's common currency could be dire.

Josef Ackermann, the CEO of Deutsche Bank, has given the all-clear signal many times in the past. He has repeatedly said that the worst was over, only to see the financial crisis strengthen its grip on the world economy.

Last week, however, Ackermann was singing a completely different tune. Although many indicators are once again pointing skyward, he said at a Berlin summit on the economy, Chancellor Angela Merkel, the assembled cabinet ministers, corporate CEOs and union leaders should not to be deluded. He warned emphatically that the financial situation could deteriorate once again. "A few time bombs" are still ticking, Ackermann told his audience, noting that the growing problems of highly leveraged small countries could lead to new tremors. And then, almost casually, Ackermann mentioned the problem child of the European financial world by name: Greece.

Ackermann isn't alone in his opinion. Practically unnoticed by the public, an issue has returned to the forefront in recent weeks -- one that was a cause for great concern at the height of the financial crisis but then, as optimism about the economy began to grow, was eventually forgotten: the fear of a national bankruptcy in the euro zone. And the question as to whether such a bankruptcy, should it come about, could destroy the common European currency.

Greece was always at the very top of the list of countries at risk. But now the danger appears to be more acute than ever.
Greece is in dire straits, with total debt at 134% of GDP. The government could go bankrupt within the next six months, threatening the stability of the entire Eurozone.

America's national debt is 85% of its GDP, and is increasing by 10% each year.

Some poster or another up here said that what happens outside our borders is of no importance at all, period.

I don'r really believe that.

My question would be, considering a global economy, how would Greece's financial failure affect the US?



Historically, didn't the US participate as one of many who helped Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, and possibly some others when they were in financial straits, on the basis, that all benefit from not having who;e countries go under?

For those wanting to do just a tiny bit to help, and I do not say this facetiously nor in jest, a nice Moscofilero wine is a gift to all, the drinker and the Greek economy.

Failed economies lead to civil unrest. What does Greece need?
 
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My question would be, considering a global economy, how would Greece's financial failure affect the US?
I could offer up a hypothesis:

Greece's bankruptcy domestically will lead to riots and perhaps even the overthrow of the government, as we saw in Iceland. It will dramatically reduce the stability of the Euro, potentially dissolving the Eurozone as we know it. Already, EU countries are at each others throats over this great recession.

Without a strong single currency, Europe's ability to trade will be severely affected, dramatically dropping the world volume of trade. As the Europeans are the second-heaviest consumers (next to Americans), this would start a chain-effect, hurting all of our economies, but especially hurting China and India.

Of course, if China is hurting, they will be less able to fund our massive debtload, thus speeding us to our own debt-fueled crash. It's a bad scenario.
 
From what I understand from Greek friends (Americans now), Greece makes some of its own difficulties. I know of one who inherited property in Greece, but she is unable to sell it if she takes all or some the money out of Greece. I know of others who had similar difficulties if they inherited money from a Greek relative. If they treat importers in a similar fashion, it would prove difficult to encourage companies to trade with them.
 
Not at all a pretty picture.


Where the rising tide lifts all boats, the "perfect storm" can take out the whole fleet!
 
From what I understand from Greek friends (Americans now), Greece makes some of its own difficulties. I know of one who inherited property in Greece, but she is unable to sell it if she takes all or some the money out of Greece. I know of others who had similar difficulties if they inherited money from a Greek relative. If they treat importers in a similar fashion, it would prove difficult to encourage companies to trade with them.

Aren't Americans allowed to take only $10,000 out of the US? I suppose one could do something serially, not sure on the law......

But many countries have these restrictions on currency.

In Greece, though, trading in Euros, it would seem to be "possible." Buy a nice boat, then sell it elsewhere????
 
Greece is in dire straits, with total debt at 134% of GDP. The government could go bankrupt within the next six months, threatening the stability of the entire Eurozone.

America's national debt is 85% of its GDP, and is increasing by 10% each year.
And Obomites wonder why people are insisting he Change spending patterns by reducing our deficit in the Hope the USA won't go belly up.
 
Why would Obama reduce the defecit? Just so the next republican cand spend it up and say it does not matter?
 
Greece is in dire straits, with total debt at 134% of GDP. The government could go bankrupt within the next six months, threatening the stability of the entire Eurozone.

America's national debt is 85% of its GDP, and is increasing by 10% each year.

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money" - Margaret Thatcher
 
Why would Obama reduce the defecit? Just so the next republican cand spend it up and say it does not matter?
So after getting into office on the promise of change Obama refuses to follow through.
No surprise there.
Perhaps the next Republican will cancel Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, drop the military to the minimum needed to keep foreign troops off our shores, end Welfare, and pay off the debt.
Whoever does that will benefit the nation far more than any horde of socialists.
 
Why would Obama reduce the defecit? Just so the next republican cand spend it up and say it does not matter?
So after getting into office on the promise of change Obama refuses to follow through.
No surprise there.
Perhaps the next Republican will cancel Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, drop the military to the minimum needed to keep foreign troops off our shores, end Welfare, and pay off the debt.
Whoever does that will benefit the nation far more than any horde of socialists.

Man would this place be a wasteland.
If what you want happened we would have a depression that would put the other one to shame.

Why do you hate the USA?
 
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Greece's bankruptcy domestically will lead to riots and perhaps even the overthrow of the government, as we saw in Iceland.

We saw "riots and perhaps the overthrow of the government" in Iceland?

No wonder Greece is going bankrupt: They Imported all their Ice.
 
Greece relies on the tourist trade and has always been a poor country, the big problem with them is they are mega socialists who fully embrace the nanny state, and like many such folks, they have no idea how to pay for it.
 
Timebomb for the Euro: Greek Debt Poses a Danger to Common Currency - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

As economic indicators have improved, concern about the financial crisis has abated. But the next big problem could be approaching. Greece's public deficit is skyrocketing and the country may become insolvent. The effect on Europe's common currency could be dire.

Josef Ackermann, the CEO of Deutsche Bank, has given the all-clear signal many times in the past. He has repeatedly said that the worst was over, only to see the financial crisis strengthen its grip on the world economy.

Last week, however, Ackermann was singing a completely different tune. Although many indicators are once again pointing skyward, he said at a Berlin summit on the economy, Chancellor Angela Merkel, the assembled cabinet ministers, corporate CEOs and union leaders should not to be deluded. He warned emphatically that the financial situation could deteriorate once again. "A few time bombs" are still ticking, Ackermann told his audience, noting that the growing problems of highly leveraged small countries could lead to new tremors. And then, almost casually, Ackermann mentioned the problem child of the European financial world by name: Greece.

Ackermann isn't alone in his opinion. Practically unnoticed by the public, an issue has returned to the forefront in recent weeks -- one that was a cause for great concern at the height of the financial crisis but then, as optimism about the economy began to grow, was eventually forgotten: the fear of a national bankruptcy in the euro zone. And the question as to whether such a bankruptcy, should it come about, could destroy the common European currency.

Greece was always at the very top of the list of countries at risk. But now the danger appears to be more acute than ever.
Greece is in dire straits, with total debt at 134% of GDP. The government could go bankrupt within the next six months, threatening the stability of the entire Eurozone.

America's national debt is 85% of its GDP, and is increasing by 10% each year.

more like 50% per year since the big spender took over!
 
Greece relies on the tourist trade and has always been a poor country, the big problem with them is they are mega socialists who fully embrace the nanny state, and like many such folks, they have no idea how to pay for it.

Greek wine sucks too.
 

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