Grand Theater in California (Shocked?) "Sodomite Suppression Act"

Do you believe this is real? Or do you think "Matt McLaughlin" has rainbow stripes on his arm band?

  • Oh this is real. For sure.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nope. This is a BS sympathy ploy.

    Votes: 3 100.0%

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Gonna be a lot of smilies used on this one...

http://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/15-0008 (Sodomy)_0.pdf

Comes just before the US Supreme Court Hearing on gay marriage. :eusa_whistle: Since this is the uber-sympathy ploy, we really need to look at who "Matt McLaughin" is and who is behind "him" filing this absurd act:

It calls for death to sodomites lest the whole world be ruined by God's hand a la Sodom.

It is ridiculous, and a transparent final :eusa_boohoo: sympathy ploy. I guess gay-teen suicide isn't vogue anymore. Now the moles have to resort to "death by firing squad" to get a kneejerk and blind reaction to get their agenda through.

Long story short, no grand theatre should blind the frank and open discussion of whether or not fatherless sons and motherless daughters should be institutionalized by force by the federal government without the consent of the governed.

Vote in the poll.

Meanwhile, something is fishy in Denmark. Kamala Harris, the AG of California who ordered that the state's sovereignty via initiative law defining marraige as man/woman be severed..., defiantly, arrogantly...suddenly professes impotence to stop a proposed measure to kill gay people..


...yeah.......riiiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhht.. :popcorn:

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Matthew McLaughlin, the Orange County lawyer who paid $200 to submit the initiative, did not respond to a telephone call seeking comment. A Democratic state senator, Ricardo Lara, has asked the California bar to investigate whether McLaughlin's actions make him unfit to practice law.
The measure puts Harris in a difficult position. Although the bill has no discernible momentum or likely chance of success, she said unless a judge rules otherwise, she will have no choice but to give McLaughlin the go-ahead to seek the nearly 366,000 votes needed to qualify the measure for the November 2016 ballot.......Under California's initiative process, state officials do not have authority to refuse to administer initiatives they find objectionable, the California Supreme Court has ruled... California attorney general moves to end anti-gay initiative

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Except that AG Harris simply nullified the CA initiative law describing marriage and refused to clarify that illegal act (the law is still in the Constitution there) to the county clerks of CA when they petitioned her to.

AG Harris is actually participating in a sham attack promising to kill gays, saying there is "nothing she can do about it".

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Here's what AG Kamala Harris had no trouble whatsoever trouncing:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_1
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
SEC. 7.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or
recognized in California
 
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Here's one remedy the poor weak AG Harris has at her erstwhile totalitarian fingertips to remedy the problem and deny the ballot initative:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_1
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
SEC. 31...

..
(h) This section shall be self-executing. If any part or parts of
this section are found to be in conflict with federal law or the
United States Constitution, the section shall be implemented to the
maximum extent that federal law and the United States Constitution
permit. Any provision held invalid shall be severable from the
remaining portions of this section.
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http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_3
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 3 STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SEC. 1. The State of California is an inseparable part of the
United States of America, and the United States Constitution is the
supreme law of the land...

..
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_4
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 4 LEGISLATIVE
SEC. 9. A statute shall embrace but one subject, which shall be
expressed in its title. If a statute embraces a subject not expressed
in its title, only the part not expressed is void. A statute may not
be amended by reference to its title. A section of a statute may not
be amended unless the section is re-enacted as amended.

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To get technical, the proposed statute seeks to amend the death penalty in the state of California, in addition to suppressing the circulation of pro-homosexual propaganda to minors.

Since these are two different issues completely, the AG and Legislature have the means to reject this proposal.

Saying they have their hands tied does allow a media circus around this convenient fellow Matt McLaughlin, who seems to pop up whenever the lavendar mafia needs a "Christian horror" episode to writhe and cower at. (adjust the lighting, makeup, lower the sound boom...enter stage right: Matt McLaughlin...)
 
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Even some anti-gay marriage activists are opposed to the proposed initiative.

“We condemn the death-to-homosexuals ballot initiative,” said Randy Thomasson, president of SaveCalifornia.com, in a statement released Friday night. "This (is a) terrible ballot initiative. (It) is wrong in both the eyes of conservatives and liberals.”
There are efforts underway to stop McLaughlin.
State Sen. Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, said the lesbian, gay bisexual, transgender caucus wrote a letter to the head of the California State Bar Association “asking that they look into the mental stability and state of this Mathew McLaughlin and challenge his membership to the California State Bar Association … given that he has literally threatened the lives of a protected class of citizens here in California.” Can California ballot proposal legalizing killing of gays be stopped Local News - KCRA Home

"Even SOME anti-gay marriage activists are opposed to the proposed initiative."?? :lmao:

...But you know...MOST anti-gay marriage activists approve of this proposal.

Anyone still not yet convinced this is high theater?

Here's what the most organized anti-redacting-the-structure-of-marriage group had to say about this manufactured tripe:

At first, we weren't going to honor with our attention or even comment on a proposed ballot initiative that advocates killing homosexuals. But after media began calling, and homosexual activists and their allies began using it, we knew it was better to not remain silent...Sacramento, California -- In light of news reports that a California ballot initiative has been filed by a Huntington Beach man to authorize the killing of people who engage in homosexual behavior, Randy Thomasson, president of the pro-family organization SaveCalifornia.com, which promotes moral virtues for the common good, has issued the following statement:

"This terrible ballot initiative doesn't deserve any reporting, because advocating the killing of people who are not guilty of a contemporary capital crime, not guilty of threatening you with death yourself, and not pointing a rifle at you in war, is wrong in both the eyes of conservatives and liberals.
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and more...

"It's sad that homosexual activists -- who have deprived religious bakers, florists, and photographers of their money and property, as well as their free speech and religious freedom -- aren't tolerant, but are categorically intolerant, punishing dissent. Yet their hurtful agenda deserves peaceful, not violent, opposition. Therefore, we condemn this ill-conceived ballot measure that commands 'death to homosexuals.' We couldn't disagree more, and wish them life instead." We want homosexuals to live not die

Oh, Mr. Thomasson, it was not "ill conceived". It was calculated and has rainbow undertones peeking out from underneath the convenient "whack job Christian" Matt McLaughlin.

Here's the idea:

"Now we can all come together, gays and straights to promote complete protection of gays against this horrible horrible oppression...kumbaya my lord kumbaya...and we must also intitutionalize fatherless sons, motherless daughters "as married"...and force Christians to promote homosexual cultural spread against Jude 1....kumbaya...oh lord...kumbaya".

The machinations of this group are beyond insidious; they're nauseating and dangerous. This is inciting civil unrest. The perps (all of them, not just McLaughlin...if that's even his real name...) should be brought to trial. Very reminiscent of the far left drumming up unrest surrounding the Missouri shooting of the black youth. What this could actually do is inspire real mental patients like the guy who shot Gabby Giffords to come out and begin attacking or even killing gays.

I smell a certain vocal pro-gay activist very well known media character behind this. Isn't she from this state? Man, I hope I'm wrong.. Because if that was the case, it would mean she made a calculated plan to potentially shed blood in the name of getting gay marriage passed; blood of those who she calls her fellows. *shudder*....no...it couldn't be?...
 
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A related stage show? Same theater troupe?

At a few minutes after 9 p.m. last Wednesday night in Ferguson, Missouri, a crowd of protesters, led by a self-proclaimed communist with a bullhorn, faced off against a line of St. Louis County police.
The man, who was white and appeared to be in his late-50's, wore a black T-shirt that displayed the words "the system has no future for the youth, the revolution does," and sang a song about revolution. The Communist Agitators Blamed for Inciting Unrest in Ferguson

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Say...that's a pretty snazzy scarf that white doughy protestor has on in Ferguson...
 
Speaking of theater...Shakespeare anyone?...

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Huntington Beach attorney Matt McLaughlin is collecting signatures
for a state initiative that would put the King James Bible in the
hands of California public school students...

...McLaughlin, who attends church regularly, said the King James
translation of the Bible is more than just a Christian text and has
educational value as a major work in the development of the English
language.
"It is a Bible that was produced at a time when Shakespeare and
other great works of English literature were being produced," he
said. "That's when English became English."
But McLaughlin has a long way to go. His efforts are still in
their very early stages, and the work to get signatures and funds has
only just begun.
"I think somebody gave me 10 bucks," he said.
But McLaughlin is not alone. He has gained the support of Conquest
Ministries, an L.A.-based evangelical group that is working to
coordinate efforts on behalf of the initiative across the state
.
"We feel personally we'll get 1.2-million signatures by May 24,"
said Akeem Reinsfield, a spokesman with Conquest. Push on for Bibles in schools - tribunedigital-huntingtonbeachindependent

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hmmmm..."Conquest Ministries" eh? A Christian lawyer with a penchant for Shakespeare.. ? Aren't there a lot of pagan things going on in Shakespeare's plays? Methinks there are a lot of sprites and such.

Can't find a friggin' thing about "Akeem Reinsfield Conquest Ministries LA California" besides this one article's reference. Must've been a group started up just for a specific purpose in 2004 in LA and then dissolved soon after? You don't often hear of Christian groups doing that..or ones that are into pagan playwrites..
 
Legal analysis:

Following Ockham’s Razor, it appears that the initiative was designed to gain a maximum amount of publicity for very low cost, in this case a filing fee of $200. More speculation might turn to discussion of the initiative as a Swiftian satire of social conservative attitudes towards gay society. This modest proposal for interpretation of the author’s motives is somewhat diminished by the initiative author’s previous failed initiative to use the Bible as a public schools instructional text....

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On March 25, the Attorney General, a US Senate candidate, took the unusual step of seeking a declaration from the Sacramento Superior Court that the initiative is “patently unconstitutional on its face”; that any preparation and official issuance of a circulating title and summary “would be inappropriate, waste public resources, generate unnecessary divisions among the public, and tend to mislead the electorate”; and that she is “relieved of any obligation to issue a title and summary” as required by the state Constitution.
Two puzzling features of this strategy are first, the failure to seek a prerogative writ to bar the initiative, possibly achieving an immediate court review, rather than resorting to a civil action which extends the matter over a relatively long time period
. The answer would seem to be that the civil action is so weak on the merits that litigating the matter beyond the next elections would have the best return on investment, forestalling the initiative for a year or more. However, this strategy turns on the AG getting some form of preliminary relief from the Court freezing the Constitutional process. This seems unlikely...

..it is clear that the AG’s civil action to bar the sodomite initiative has very little chance of success, absent a default on the author’s part motivated by his analysis that he has gotten all the publicity that he can get from the initiative and that he will need to spend a great deal of money on a civil action. This, in turn, is unlikely, as further court action and a possible legal victory in the Superior Court would generate more notoriety. Indeed
Viewpoint California s Sodomite Suppression Act - Really Law.com

But then again, a lengthy lawsuit "exposing the horrible nature of the Christian right to deny gays even life!!" might be a great publicity stunt right about now..

Refer to the underlined text in the first quote from this link.

Matt Mclaughlin seems to be a conventient stooge to trot out when the far left wants to drive a point home. His pet cause before was handing out bibles in schools, a thing a lawyer would know would be Unconstitutional. Even a moron would know that. So his MO is outlandish parody.

What's disturbing is what the hell is AG Kamala Harris doing getting wound up in something like this that she has to also know is a farce.

Still searching for McLaughlin's old chums from his 2004 stunt "Conquest Ministries" of LA and "Akeem Reinsfield". Anyone?
 
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86 views as of this post and not a single bite here.

For all the manic and reliable posting you see on all the other gay topics....odd that not a single LGBT payroll poster at USMB has uttered a peep on the topic of...oh....I don't know... a statute that ADVOCATES KILLING GAYS.

Weird, dontcha think? I wonder why they're staying silent on this topic? Do you suppose it could be that they themselves know it's a ruse and they don't want to upset the apple cart by posting something that makes it look like it's a ruse? (Except that by not posting on just this particular topic, en masse', as a singular bloc they are famous for here, they have already let the cat out of the bag...)
 
Not one person here at USMB has a single thing to say about a statute in California that proposes that the general public be encouraged to shoot gays dead eh? Not a peep eh? :popcorn:
 
I already published my remarks on another thread. I don't want to have anything to do with somebody who wants to kill their fellow Americans because they don't like them. Whatever his point may be, it was lost in making a serious proposal to enact a law to put people to death for lifestyles he disagrees with.
 
ROFLMNAO!

It occurs to me that the closer to the truth one gets, the farther away the Ideological left gets. Which, given the immutable nature of the principle, would mean that the OP is NAILING IT!

Clearly the Bill is a plastic banana designed to illicit sympathy for the poor downtrodden homosexuals, whose only crime is that they can't stand up against their deviant cravings and they demanded that EVERYONE ELSE ACCEPT THEIR DEVIANCY AS NORMAL AND WHOLESOME AND GOOD... OR ELSE!

And THAT Reader is why Homosexuals have spent 99.99999~% of human history in the closet. Their problem is one of a deviant sexuality... their problem is a deviant mind, which drives them toward deviant cravings.

Part and parcel of that deviancy is what you see in this ridiculous farce, unbridled deceit advanced through fraudulent means designed to influence the ignorant.

It is nothing short of pure unadulterated EVIL!

AND THAT IS WHY HOMOSEXUALS HAVE SPENT 99.99999~% OF HUMAN HISTORY IN THE CLOSET... BECAUSE EVERY TIME AND EVERYWHERE THEY HAVE BEEN TOLERATED, THEY DESTROYED THE CULTURE THAT TOLERATED THEM... AND THAT'S BECAUSE WHAT MANIFEST THEM... IS EVIL!

EVIL is a word which conveys "UN-GOOD" or that which is the opposite of and has no qualities associated with Good. It serves only to destroy, it plants deceit and harvests the fruit of deceit, which is chaos, calamity and catastrophe.

They ruined the lives of innocent people who simply disagreed with their choices and who asked to not be forced to participate in the celebration of that which they could not rightfully partake in. That is an illicit use of government, it is a vulgar use of the justice system and this latest farce is something well beyond vulgar... it is a lie, advanced as truth, designed to lead innocent people to believe that which is false as truth.

Again... it's EVIL!
 
Matt McLaughlin has a goal but that goal has nothing to do with gays or the Bible. This time he has an attorney general that agrees with him and will work with him. McLaughlin has been bringing these nonsense initiatives for years. What he wants to do is end the initiative process completely. He makes his initiatives as odious as possible. How bad do they have to get before the state closes down the whole process.

Kamala Harris agrees. She has proposed raising the filing fee from $200 to $8000.
 
ROFLMNAO!

It occurs to me that the closer to the truth one gets, the farther away the Ideological left gets. Which, given the immutable nature of the principle, would mean that the OP is NAILING IT!

Clearly the Bill is a plastic banana designed to illicit sympathy for the poor downtrodden homosexuals, whose only crime is that they can't stand up against their deviant cravings and they demanded that EVERYONE ELSE ACCEPT THEIR DEVIANCY AS NORMAL AND WHOLESOME AND GOOD... OR ELSE!

And THAT Reader is why Homosexuals have spent 99.99999~% of human history in the closet. Their problem is one of a deviant sexuality... their problem is a deviant mind, which drives them toward deviant cravings.

Part and parcel of that deviancy is what you see in this ridiculous farce, unbridled deceit advanced through fraudulent means designed to influence the ignorant.

It is nothing short of pure unadulterated EVIL!

AND THAT IS WHY HOMOSEXUALS HAVE SPENT 99.99999~% OF HUMAN HISTORY IN THE CLOSET... BECAUSE EVERY TIME AND EVERYWHERE THEY HAVE BEEN TOLERATED, THEY DESTROYED THE CULTURE THAT TOLERATED THEM... AND THAT'S BECAUSE WHAT MANIFEST THEM... IS EVIL!

EVIL is a word which conveys "UN-GOOD" or that which is the opposite of and has no qualities associated with Good. It serves only to destroy, it plants deceit and harvests the fruit of deceit, which is chaos, calamity and catastrophe.

They ruined the lives of innocent people who simply disagreed with their choices and who asked to not be forced to participate in the celebration of that which they could not rightfully partake in. That is an illicit use of government, it is a vulgar use of the justice system and this latest farce is something well beyond vulgar... it is a lie, advanced as truth, designed to lead innocent people to believe that which is false as truth.

Again... it's EVIL!
It's evil from every angle. This lawyer demonstrates the intrinsic moral bankruptcy of the homosexual Left.
 
ROFLMNAO!

It occurs to me that the closer to the truth one gets, the farther away the Ideological left gets. Which, given the immutable nature of the principle, would mean that the OP is NAILING IT!

Clearly the Bill is a plastic banana designed to illicit sympathy for the poor downtrodden homosexuals, whose only crime is that they can't stand up against their deviant cravings and they demanded that EVERYONE ELSE ACCEPT THEIR DEVIANCY AS NORMAL AND WHOLESOME AND GOOD... OR ELSE!

And THAT Reader is why Homosexuals have spent 99.99999~% of human history in the closet. Their problem is one of a deviant sexuality... their problem is a deviant mind, which drives them toward deviant cravings.

Part and parcel of that deviancy is what you see in this ridiculous farce, unbridled deceit advanced through fraudulent means designed to influence the ignorant.

It is nothing short of pure unadulterated EVIL!

AND THAT IS WHY HOMOSEXUALS HAVE SPENT 99.99999~% OF HUMAN HISTORY IN THE CLOSET... BECAUSE EVERY TIME AND EVERYWHERE THEY HAVE BEEN TOLERATED, THEY DESTROYED THE CULTURE THAT TOLERATED THEM... AND THAT'S BECAUSE WHAT MANIFEST THEM... IS EVIL!

EVIL is a word which conveys "UN-GOOD" or that which is the opposite of and has no qualities associated with Good. It serves only to destroy, it plants deceit and harvests the fruit of deceit, which is chaos, calamity and catastrophe.

They ruined the lives of innocent people who simply disagreed with their choices and who asked to not be forced to participate in the celebration of that which they could not rightfully partake in. That is an illicit use of government, it is a vulgar use of the justice system and this latest farce is something well beyond vulgar... it is a lie, advanced as truth, designed to lead innocent people to believe that which is false as truth.

Again... it's EVIL!
It's evil from every angle. This lawyer demonstrates the intrinsic moral bankruptcy of the homosexual Left.

It's depravity that would make Caligula blush.
 
Matt McLaughlin has a goal but that goal has nothing to do with gays or the Bible. This time he has an attorney general that agrees with him and will work with him. McLaughlin has been bringing these nonsense initiatives for years. What he wants to do is end the initiative process completely. He makes his initiatives as odious as possible. How bad do they have to get before the state closes down the whole process.

Kamala Harris agrees. She has proposed raising the filing fee from $200 to $8000.


The issues are all intertwined... This bill serves both purposes. First it focuses the idiocy of social Democracy wherein anyone can get 360,000 of 38 million people out of to sign a petition for anything, further providing the ethereal appearance that Homosexuals are being targeted for death. Recall that this was the same ruse that provided for their 'being accepted'.... . In truth, they were never at risk, accept where they made a nuisance of themselves and got their ass beat, sometimes badly.

At the end of the day, the same mental disorder that induces cravings for sexual gratification with a member of one's own gender, is the same one that induces someone to put unbridled idiocy up on a public initiative.

In truth, this is likely not even the most egregious example of such... but what this demonstrates is the destructive nature of subjective reasoning applied to governance; OKA: Relativism.

It's evil.

And the best evidence that our in-house evil knows this, is found in their absence, brought about by their inability to defend it with a straight face.

LOL! CLASSIC!
 
Find the quote where I said I wouldn't post about gay issues anymore.
 
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