Zone1 No Christian can vote for Kamala

[ding]

That is not the answer to my question.

Are you one of those guys that believe the good of the many outweighs the good of the individual?

Are you one of those guys who believes there is no right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

Would you like for your government to control all aspects of life?

 

[Hector12]

Are you one of those guys that believe the good of the many outweighs the good of the individual?

Are you one of those guys who believes there is no right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

Would you like for your government to control all aspects of life?

What does that have to do with abortion?

 

[ding]

What does that have to do with abortion?

It has to do with rights. You must not be a big fan of them.

 

[Moonglow]

Below are the words of Bill Donahue, writing for Newsmax, along with some parts being paraphrased somewhat by yours truly:

[Kamala Harris] has.. 1) tried to force states that restrict abortions to obtain federal approval from the DOJ

2) [As CA’s AG] she "bludgeoned" pro-life activist David Daleiden [who] used undercover videos to expose how abortion operatives harvest and sell aborted fetal organs. 3) She authorized her office to raid his home: they seized his camera equipment and copies of revealing videos that implicated many of those who work in the abortion industry. 4) [She] sought to cripple crisis pregnancy centers with draconian regulations, supporting a bill that would force these centers to inform clients where they could obtain an abortion. She was sued and lost in the Supreme Court 3 years later. 5) Even when [children survive an abortion] she is OK with letting [them] die. . 6) Harris voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, a bill that would “prohibit a health care practitioner from failing to exercise the proper degree of care in the case of a child who survives an abortion or attempted abortion.” .. When it comes to convicted serial rapists and mass shooters, she wants to spare their lives. In 2019, she was.. 7) asked if she opposed the death penalty for acts of treason. She said she did [oppose that].

[Donahue continues:] There we have it. Harris says that those who endanger the safety of all Americans by attempting a violent overthrow of the government, or spying on the military for a foreign enemy, should have their lives spared, but innocent children who are moments away from being born are not entitled.. children who survive an abortion, but are in need of medical attention, can be left to die.. and no one will be held accountable.

The D Party is the proud party of homosexual activists and transgender radicals. Harris… actually performed “marriages” between gay couples in 2004. 8) She also opposed Proposition 8, the California initiative barring gay marriage. The people spoke—they voted for it—but she 9) does not believe in “power to the people”: 10) she believes in power to the ruling class (which won in the Supreme Court). When.. DeSantis supported 11) a bill that would prohibit teachers in the early grades, K-3rd grade, from being indoctrinated with gay and transgender propaganda, she opposed it [showing] her contempt for parental rights... Harris’ enthusiasm for transgender rights includes 12) allowing females who claim to be men to join the military and males who claim to be female to compete against girls and women in sports. Religious liberty is a 1st Amendment right, but her deeds suggest she is not supportive of it. As a U.S. senator, she 13) co-sponsored the “Do No Harm Act” that would force religious institutions to violate their doctrinal prerogatives. Harris even 14) co-sponsored the most anti-religious liberty bill ever introduced, the Equality Act. It would coerce Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions and to mutilate the genitals of young people seeking to transition to the opposite sex. This bill would sideline the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a 1993 bill that ensures that the government does not encroach on religious rights. In 2018, the Catholic League was among the first organizations in the nation to protest 15) her attack on a Catholic nominee for a federal district judge post. She badgered Brian Buescher at a hearing, simply because he was a member of the Knights of Columbus, a male entity... Harris has never objected to Jewish women groups or the League of Women Voters. Just a Catholic male group. What really got her goat is Buescher’s membership in a Catholic organization that is pro-life and pro-marriage, rightly understood. 16) In other words, she was invoking a religious test for public office, which is unconstitutional. The one incident where Harris proved to be religion-friendly was a stunt she pulled that violated separation of church and state. In 2021, 17) she created a video to be played in Virginia Black churches urging everyone to vote for D gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe. The video aired in 300 churches for several weeks. Harris starred in it, beckoning congregants to vote for him

(The entire article can be found here
https://www.newsmax.com/billdonohue/kamala-harris-religion/2024/07/25/id/1173946/ )

So there you have

17 REASONS NO TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN VOTE FOR KAMALA​

My goodness the hate runs deep for a religion of love and acceptance.

 

[Moonglow]

I won't be voting for her, Christian or otherwise.

Her entire history has been one of opportunism and entitlement. Her entire life has been one of picking easy cases or charging people for minor offenses, guilty or not, because they were easy wins to add to her CV, while ignoring more important, more serious crimes, just to bloat her "success" record as a prosecutor.

That included convicting people of minor marijuana offenses while SHE HERSELF SMOKED POT.

On top of that, she worked to KEEP people in prison who were otherwise innocent and should have been let out.

The rest of her career has been based on blow jobs and black entitlement, while running from the slightest actual responsibility that incurred any risk as VP.

Now, the least popular candidate in the 2020 primaries, she is being handed a shot at the presidency, yet NO ONE HAS ACTUALLY VOTED FOR HER. Meantime, the woman is a marxist idiot who has never uttered a single halfway intelligent thing in her life.

What makes her a Marxist?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Below are the words of Bill Donahue, writing for Newsmax, along with some parts being paraphrased somewhat by yours truly:

[Kamala Harris] has.. 1) tried to force states that restrict abortions to obtain federal approval from the DOJ

2) [As CA’s AG] she "bludgeoned" pro-life activist David Daleiden [who] used undercover videos to expose how abortion operatives harvest and sell aborted fetal organs. 3) She authorized her office to raid his home: they seized his camera equipment and copies of revealing videos that implicated many of those who work in the abortion industry. 4) [She] sought to cripple crisis pregnancy centers with draconian regulations, supporting a bill that would force these centers to inform clients where they could obtain an abortion. She was sued and lost in the Supreme Court 3 years later. 5) Even when [children survive an abortion] she is OK with letting [them] die. . 6) Harris voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, a bill that would “prohibit a health care practitioner from failing to exercise the proper degree of care in the case of a child who survives an abortion or attempted abortion.” .. When it comes to convicted serial rapists and mass shooters, she wants to spare their lives. In 2019, she was.. 7) asked if she opposed the death penalty for acts of treason. She said she did [oppose that].

[Donahue continues:] There we have it. Harris says that those who endanger the safety of all Americans by attempting a violent overthrow of the government, or spying on the military for a foreign enemy, should have their lives spared, but innocent children who are moments away from being born are not entitled.. children who survive an abortion, but are in need of medical attention, can be left to die.. and no one will be held accountable.

The D Party is the proud party of homosexual activists and transgender radicals. Harris… actually performed “marriages” between gay couples in 2004. 8) She also opposed Proposition 8, the California initiative barring gay marriage. The people spoke—they voted for it—but she 9) does not believe in “power to the people”: 10) she believes in power to the ruling class (which won in the Supreme Court). When.. DeSantis supported 11) a bill that would prohibit teachers in the early grades, K-3rd grade, from being indoctrinated with gay and transgender propaganda, she opposed it [showing] her contempt for parental rights... Harris’ enthusiasm for transgender rights includes 12) allowing females who claim to be men to join the military and males who claim to be female to compete against girls and women in sports. Religious liberty is a 1st Amendment right, but her deeds suggest she is not supportive of it. As a U.S. senator, she 13) co-sponsored the “Do No Harm Act” that would force religious institutions to violate their doctrinal prerogatives. Harris even 14) co-sponsored the most anti-religious liberty bill ever introduced, the Equality Act. It would coerce Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions and to mutilate the genitals of young people seeking to transition to the opposite sex. This bill would sideline the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a 1993 bill that ensures that the government does not encroach on religious rights. In 2018, the Catholic League was among the first organizations in the nation to protest 15) her attack on a Catholic nominee for a federal district judge post. She badgered Brian Buescher at a hearing, simply because he was a member of the Knights of Columbus, a male entity... Harris has never objected to Jewish women groups or the League of Women Voters. Just a Catholic male group. What really got her goat is Buescher’s membership in a Catholic organization that is pro-life and pro-marriage, rightly understood. 16) In other words, she was invoking a religious test for public office, which is unconstitutional. The one incident where Harris proved to be religion-friendly was a stunt she pulled that violated separation of church and state. In 2021, 17) she created a video to be played in Virginia Black churches urging everyone to vote for D gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe. The video aired in 300 churches for several weeks. Harris starred in it, beckoning congregants to vote for him

(The entire article can be found here
https://www.newsmax.com/billdonohue/kamala-harris-religion/2024/07/25/id/1173946/ )

So there you have

17 REASONS NO TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN VOTE FOR KAMALA​

And if there are 17 for Kamala, there are 170 for Trump... but that won't stop them from voting for him.

When you've spent your whole life being told to pick and choose what you find moral and not from a book that has plenty of immoral things in it, it isn't difficult to keep doing the same in politics.

 

[Hector12]

It has to do with rights. You must not be a big fan of them.

I am in favor of the right to have an abortion at any time, for any reason.

 

[BreezeWood]

We were never meant to look to government for the standards for our morality.

really, that's why there is a gov't in every country on planet earth -

what they mean is only through their christian bible of forgeries and falsies, the religion of servitude and denial they madeup in the 4th century. their own self serving gov't.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Below are the words of Bill Donahue, writing for Newsmax, along with some parts being paraphrased somewhat by yours truly:

[Kamala Harris] has.. 1) tried to force states that restrict abortions to obtain federal approval from the DOJ

2) [As CA’s AG] she "bludgeoned" pro-life activist David Daleiden [who] used undercover videos to expose how abortion operatives harvest and sell aborted fetal organs. 3) She authorized her office to raid his home: they seized his camera equipment and copies of revealing videos that implicated many of those who work in the abortion industry. 4) [She] sought to cripple crisis pregnancy centers with draconian regulations, supporting a bill that would force these centers to inform clients where they could obtain an abortion. She was sued and lost in the Supreme Court 3 years later. 5) Even when [children survive an abortion] she is OK with letting [them] die. . 6) Harris voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, a bill that would “prohibit a health care practitioner from failing to exercise the proper degree of care in the case of a child who survives an abortion or attempted abortion.” .. When it comes to convicted serial rapists and mass shooters, she wants to spare their lives. In 2019, she was.. 7) asked if she opposed the death penalty for acts of treason. She said she did [oppose that].

[Donahue continues:] There we have it. Harris says that those who endanger the safety of all Americans by attempting a violent overthrow of the government, or spying on the military for a foreign enemy, should have their lives spared, but innocent children who are moments away from being born are not entitled.. children who survive an abortion, but are in need of medical attention, can be left to die.. and no one will be held accountable.

The D Party is the proud party of homosexual activists and transgender radicals. Harris… actually performed “marriages” between gay couples in 2004. 8) She also opposed Proposition 8, the California initiative barring gay marriage. The people spoke—they voted for it—but she 9) does not believe in “power to the people”: 10) she believes in power to the ruling class (which won in the Supreme Court). When.. DeSantis supported 11) a bill that would prohibit teachers in the early grades, K-3rd grade, from being indoctrinated with gay and transgender propaganda, she opposed it [showing] her contempt for parental rights... Harris’ enthusiasm for transgender rights includes 12) allowing females who claim to be men to join the military and males who claim to be female to compete against girls and women in sports. Religious liberty is a 1st Amendment right, but her deeds suggest she is not supportive of it. As a U.S. senator, she 13) co-sponsored the “Do No Harm Act” that would force religious institutions to violate their doctrinal prerogatives. Harris even 14) co-sponsored the most anti-religious liberty bill ever introduced, the Equality Act. It would coerce Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions and to mutilate the genitals of young people seeking to transition to the opposite sex. This bill would sideline the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a 1993 bill that ensures that the government does not encroach on religious rights. In 2018, the Catholic League was among the first organizations in the nation to protest 15) her attack on a Catholic nominee for a federal district judge post. She badgered Brian Buescher at a hearing, simply because he was a member of the Knights of Columbus, a male entity... Harris has never objected to Jewish women groups or the League of Women Voters. Just a Catholic male group. What really got her goat is Buescher’s membership in a Catholic organization that is pro-life and pro-marriage, rightly understood. 16) In other words, she was invoking a religious test for public office, which is unconstitutional. The one incident where Harris proved to be religion-friendly was a stunt she pulled that violated separation of church and state. In 2021, 17) she created a video to be played in Virginia Black churches urging everyone to vote for D gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe. The video aired in 300 churches for several weeks. Harris starred in it, beckoning congregants to vote for him

(The entire article can be found here
https://www.newsmax.com/billdonohue/kamala-harris-religion/2024/07/25/id/1173946/ )

So there you have

17 REASONS NO TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN VOTE FOR KAMALA​

Truthfully, if you Christians are truly righteous and good, you wouldn't vote for any of them. Trump and Kamala are bad, so the fact you believe otherwise, tells me you're spiritually deficient.

 

[Zebra]

Below are the words of Bill Donahue, writing for Newsmax, along with some parts being paraphrased somewhat by yours truly:

[Kamala Harris] has.. 1) tried to force states that restrict abortions to obtain federal approval from the DOJ

2) [As CA’s AG] she "bludgeoned" pro-life activist David Daleiden [who] used undercover videos to expose how abortion operatives harvest and sell aborted fetal organs. 3) She authorized her office to raid his home: they seized his camera equipment and copies of revealing videos that implicated many of those who work in the abortion industry. 4) [She] sought to cripple crisis pregnancy centers with draconian regulations, supporting a bill that would force these centers to inform clients where they could obtain an abortion. She was sued and lost in the Supreme Court 3 years later. 5) Even when [children survive an abortion] she is OK with letting [them] die. . 6) Harris voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, a bill that would “prohibit a health care practitioner from failing to exercise the proper degree of care in the case of a child who survives an abortion or attempted abortion.” .. When it comes to convicted serial rapists and mass shooters, she wants to spare their lives. In 2019, she was.. 7) asked if she opposed the death penalty for acts of treason. She said she did [oppose that].

[Donahue continues:] There we have it. Harris says that those who endanger the safety of all Americans by attempting a violent overthrow of the government, or spying on the military for a foreign enemy, should have their lives spared, but innocent children who are moments away from being born are not entitled.. children who survive an abortion, but are in need of medical attention, can be left to die.. and no one will be held accountable.

The D Party is the proud party of homosexual activists and transgender radicals. Harris… actually performed “marriages” between gay couples in 2004. 8) She also opposed Proposition 8, the California initiative barring gay marriage. The people spoke—they voted for it—but she 9) does not believe in “power to the people”: 10) she believes in power to the ruling class (which won in the Supreme Court). When.. DeSantis supported 11) a bill that would prohibit teachers in the early grades, K-3rd grade, from being indoctrinated with gay and transgender propaganda, she opposed it [showing] her contempt for parental rights... Harris’ enthusiasm for transgender rights includes 12) allowing females who claim to be men to join the military and males who claim to be female to compete against girls and women in sports. Religious liberty is a 1st Amendment right, but her deeds suggest she is not supportive of it. As a U.S. senator, she 13) co-sponsored the “Do No Harm Act” that would force religious institutions to violate their doctrinal prerogatives. Harris even 14) co-sponsored the most anti-religious liberty bill ever introduced, the Equality Act. It would coerce Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions and to mutilate the genitals of young people seeking to transition to the opposite sex. This bill would sideline the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a 1993 bill that ensures that the government does not encroach on religious rights. In 2018, the Catholic League was among the first organizations in the nation to protest 15) her attack on a Catholic nominee for a federal district judge post. She badgered Brian Buescher at a hearing, simply because he was a member of the Knights of Columbus, a male entity... Harris has never objected to Jewish women groups or the League of Women Voters. Just a Catholic male group. What really got her goat is Buescher’s membership in a Catholic organization that is pro-life and pro-marriage, rightly understood. 16) In other words, she was invoking a religious test for public office, which is unconstitutional. The one incident where Harris proved to be religion-friendly was a stunt she pulled that violated separation of church and state. In 2021, 17) she created a video to be played in Virginia Black churches urging everyone to vote for D gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe. The video aired in 300 churches for several weeks. Harris starred in it, beckoning congregants to vote for him

(The entire article can be found here
https://www.newsmax.com/billdonohue/kamala-harris-religion/2024/07/25/id/1173946/ )

So there you have

17 REASONS NO TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN VOTE FOR KAMALA​

Below are the words of Bill Donahue, writing for Newsmax, along with some parts being paraphrased somewhat by yours truly:

[Kamala Harris] has.. 1) tried to force states that restrict abortions to obtain federal approval from the DOJ

2) [As CA’s AG] she "bludgeoned" pro-life activist David Daleiden [who] used undercover videos to expose how abortion operatives harvest and sell aborted fetal organs. 3) She authorized her office to raid his home: they seized his camera equipment and copies of revealing videos that implicated many of those who work in the abortion industry. 4) [She] sought to cripple crisis pregnancy centers with draconian regulations, supporting a bill that would force these centers to inform clients where they could obtain an abortion. She was sued and lost in the Supreme Court 3 years later. 5) Even when [children survive an abortion] she is OK with letting [them] die. . 6) Harris voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, a bill that would “prohibit a health care practitioner from failing to exercise the proper degree of care in the case of a child who survives an abortion or attempted abortion.” .. When it comes to convicted serial rapists and mass shooters, she wants to spare their lives. In 2019, she was.. 7) asked if she opposed the death penalty for acts of treason. She said she did [oppose that].

[Donahue continues:] There we have it. Harris says that those who endanger the safety of all Americans by attempting a violent overthrow of the government, or spying on the military for a foreign enemy, should have their lives spared, but innocent children who are moments away from being born are not entitled.. children who survive an abortion, but are in need of medical attention, can be left to die.. and no one will be held accountable.

The D Party is the proud party of homosexual activists and transgender radicals. Harris… actually performed “marriages” between gay couples in 2004. 8) She also opposed Proposition 8, the California initiative barring gay marriage. The people spoke—they voted for it—but she 9) does not believe in “power to the people”: 10) she believes in power to the ruling class (which won in the Supreme Court). When.. DeSantis supported 11) a bill that would prohibit teachers in the early grades, K-3rd grade, from being indoctrinated with gay and transgender propaganda, she opposed it [showing] her contempt for parental rights... Harris’ enthusiasm for transgender rights includes 12) allowing females who claim to be men to join the military and males who claim to be female to compete against girls and women in sports. Religious liberty is a 1st Amendment right, but her deeds suggest she is not supportive of it. As a U.S. senator, she 13) co-sponsored the “Do No Harm Act” that would force religious institutions to violate their doctrinal prerogatives. Harris even 14) co-sponsored the most anti-religious liberty bill ever introduced, the Equality Act. It would coerce Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions and to mutilate the genitals of young people seeking to transition to the opposite sex. This bill would sideline the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a 1993 bill that ensures that the government does not encroach on religious rights. In 2018, the Catholic League was among the first organizations in the nation to protest 15) her attack on a Catholic nominee for a federal district judge post. She badgered Brian Buescher at a hearing, simply because he was a member of the Knights of Columbus, a male entity... Harris has never objected to Jewish women groups or the League of Women Voters. Just a Catholic male group. What really got her goat is Buescher’s membership in a Catholic organization that is pro-life and pro-marriage, rightly understood. 16) In other words, she was invoking a religious test for public office, which is unconstitutional. The one incident where Harris proved to be religion-friendly was a stunt she pulled that violated separation of church and state. In 2021, 17) she created a video to be played in Virginia Black churches urging everyone to vote for D gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe. The video aired in 300 churches for several weeks. Harris starred in it, beckoning congregants to vote for him

(The entire article can be found here
https://www.newsmax.com/billdonohue/kamala-harris-religion/2024/07/25/id/1173946/ )

So there you have

17 REASONS NO TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN VOTE FOR KAMALA​

they can!

 

[Ace Nova]

Statements like this is the reason discord within Christianity exists and the reason dislike of "Christians" by non Christians manifests itself within our current world.

Although you may have good intentions and you are simply stating what you "believe" - your message is a misguided interpretation of Scripture.

Neither Republicans or Democrats follow Scripture word for word - and if either party claims to do so, they are sadly mistaken. To state, "You need to vote for this party or that party - and then go on to state that you must do so because of an Abrahamic Religion is breaking the 2nd Commandment - You are "Idolizing" a political party.


Matthew 22:
15 God or Caesar.[d] Then the Pharisees went off and made plans to trap him in what he said. 16 They sent some of their disciples to him, along with the Herodians,[e] and said, “Teacher, we know that you are truthful and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. Nor are you concerned with anyone’s opinion for you do not care about people’s opinions. 17 Tell us then what you think about this: Is it lawful or not for us to pay taxes to Caesar?”

18 Jesus was aware of their malicious intent, and he said, “You hypocrites! Why are you trying to trap me? 19 Show me the coin that is used for paying the tax.” When they brought him a denarius,[f] 20 he asked them, “Whose image is this, and whose inscription?” 21 They replied, “Caesar’s.” On hearing this, he said to them, “Give to Caesar what is due to Caesar, and to God what is due to God.”[g] 22 Stunned on hearing this reply, they went away and left him alone.



That said, it is fine for someone to vote for a certain party based on their faith and understanding - people can only do the best they can. What isn't "ok" in my humble opinion, is to persecute others, basing it on one's interpretation of their faith.

Matthew 7:

Do Not Judge.[a] 1 “Do not judge, so that you in turn may not be judged. 2 For you will be judged in the same way that you judge others, and the measure that you use for others will be used to measure you.

3 “Why do you take note of the splinter in your brother’s eye but do not notice the wooden plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove that splinter from your eye,’ while all the time the wooden plank remains in your own? 5 You hypocrite! First remove the wooden plank from your own eye, and then you will be able to see clearly enough to remove the splinter from your brother’s eye.

 

[zaangalewa]

I say no Christian who is taking serios the essentials of the Christian religion will vote for a future pagan dictator of the USA who is calling for "revenge" (=civil war) against people who never had done anything else than not to agree with the absurde criminal stupidities of this uneducated man who never visited a church.

 

[Ace Nova]

I say no Christian who is taking serios the essentials of the Christian religion will vote for a future pagan dictator of the USA who is calling for "revenge" (=civil war) against people who never had done anything else than not to agree with the absurde criminal stupidities of this man who never visited a church.

Civil War? Revenge?

When did Trump say that?

From my understanding, "The payback"he will get is winning the presidency, when a year ago he had far less support and most counted him "out".

Although his opponents call him "non serious", etc - he's actually a pretty smart guy. The last thing any president would want is a vastly divided country - he can't "Make America Great Again" if the country is in a state of "chaos" - it would drastically affect the economy, among other things, etc. Whether you acknowledge it or not - the one thing Trump has is support and loyalty from his followers - and in return, he is loyal to his supporters - a divided country and a bad economy would be just as bad for his supporters as it would be for his opponents.

Now he may have a different way of going about it - but at the end of the day his goal is to make the country strong and his legacy relies on it.

 

[zaangalewa]

Civil War? Revenge?

When did Trump say that? ...

I'm not one of your politicians, Mr. Absurdity. I am not able to understand why this absurde man is not in jail.

 

[ding]

I am in favor of the right to have an abortion at any time, for any reason.

And you are in favor of sterilizing the poor. You are a real patriot.

 

[Hector12]

And you are in favor of sterilizing the poor. You are a real patriot.

I am only in favor of sterilizing those on welfare. For the working poor I advocate a high minimum wage, strong labor unions, and a well-financed public sector of the economy paid for by high taxes on rich people and corporations.

 

[ding]

I am only in favor of sterilizing those on welfare. For the working poor I advocate a high minimum wage, strong labor unions, and a well-financed public sector of the economy paid for by high taxes on rich people and corporations.

Then you are no friend of liberty and freedom. That's something a communist nation would do.

 

[Hector12]

Then you are no friend of liberty and freedom. That's something a communist nation would do.

European Social Democratic countries do it too.

 

[Ace Nova]

European Social Democratic countries do it too.

Who?

 

[Hector12]

Who?

Sweden, Denmark, and Norway.

The Cold War ended long ago. Red baiting does not resonate any more.