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That's what happens when your temperature stations are sited correctly and you don't cherry-pick the warmest ones to use and you don't apply any fudge factors to the data.
Yes, the cultists are gonna screech, "But that's just the US, not the whole world! -- as if that changes anything.
But remember...the cherry-picked and fudged stations show warming. Correctly sited stations don't.
Hey Dave......perhaps global warming hasn't made its way to the US yetbut in any case, here in New York, we are upon July 1st in a couple of days and have not had a sniff of near 90 degree's yet. Never in my lifetime!!!
A serious error was found in the NASA temperature data for the United States in 2007. When corrected, it was determined that the warmest year in the past 100 years was not in 1998 and 2006 as previously believed, but was 1934, followed 1998. 1921 became the third hottest year, followed by 2006 and 1933. Out of the five hottest years, three occurred in the 1920s and 30s and only two were in the past 10 years. Notice that the US data do not have the same steep increase in temperature shown in the corrupted data of Britain's Climate Research Unit's data in the graph above. This dramatically changes scientists understanding of the importance of the warming that has occurred since 1975. The period between 1995 and 2009 is no warmer than the period between 1920 and 1935. This error in the NASA data has lead to discoveries of other errors in the data which are raising concern about data integrity of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies.
This bogus claim has been refuted multiple times on these forums.
Not credibly.
NOAA Reinstates July 1936 As Hottest Month On Record | The Daily Caller
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, criticized for manipulating temperature records to create a warming trend, has now been caught warming the past and cooling the present.
July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the U.S. during a summer that was declared “too hot to handle” by NASA scientists. That summer more than half the country was experiencing drought and wildfires had scorched more than 1.3 million acres of land, according to NASA.
According to NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in 2012, the “average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the warmest July and all-time warmest month on record for the nation in a period of record that dates back to 1895.”
“The previous warmest July for the nation was July 1936, when the average U.S. temperature was 77.4°F,” NOAA said in 2012.
This statement by NOAA was still available on their website when checked by The Daily Caller News Foundation. But when meteorologist and climate blogger Anthony Watts went to check the NOAA data on Sunday he found that the science agency had quietly reinstated July 1936 as the hottest month on record in the U.S.
“Two years ago during the scorching summer of 2012, July 1936 lost its place on the leaderboard and July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the United States,” Watts wrote. “Now, as if by magic, and according to NOAA’s own data, July 1936 is now the hottest month on record again. The past, present, and future all seems to be ‘adjustable’ in NOAA’s world.”
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“You can’t get any clearer proof of NOAA adjusting past temperatures,” Watts wrote. “This isn’t just some issue with gridding, or anomalies, or method, it is about NOAA not being able to present historical climate information of the United States accurately.”
“In one report they give one number, and in another they give a different one with no explanation to the public as to why,” Watts continued. “This is not acceptable. It is not being honest with the public. It is not scientific. It violates the Data Quality Act.”
The average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the warmest July and all-time warmest month on record for the nation in a period of record that dates back to 1895. The previous warmest July for the nation was July 1936, when the average U.S. temperature was 77.4°F.
Perhaps that has something to do with over 12,000 peer reviewed studies and the opinion of 97% of the world's experts.
When are you going to figure out that the people feeding you your marching orders have the GREATEST motivation for dishonesty and that the stories they're feeding you swing from irrelevant, to illogical to false?
and the opinion of 97% of the world's experts.
I know, 75/77 is pretty serious!!
Perhaps that has something to do with over 12,000 peer reviewed studies and the opinion of 97% of the world's experts.
When are you going to figure out that the people feeding you your marching orders have the GREATEST motivation for dishonesty and that the stories they're feeding you swing from irrelevant, to illogical to false?
and the opinion of 97% of the world's experts.
I know, 75/77 is pretty serious!!
Reviews of scientific opinion
An essay in Science surveyed 928 abstracts related to climate change, and concluded that most journal reports accepted the consensus.[65] This is discussed further in scientific opinion on climate change.
A 2010 paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found that among a pool of roughly 1,000 researchers who work directly on climate issues and publish the most frequently on the subject, 97% agree that anthropogenic climate change is happening.[66]
A 2011 paper from George Mason University published in the International Journal of Public Opinion Research, "The Structure of Scientific Opinion on Climate Change," collected the opinions of scientists in the earth, space, atmospheric, oceanic or hydrological sciences.[67] The 489 survey respondents-representing nearly half of all those eligible according to the survey's specific standards - work in academia, government, and industry, and are members of prominent professional organizations.[67] The study found that 97% of the 489 scientists surveyed agreed that that global temperatures have risen over the past century.[67] Moreover, 84% agreed that "human-induced greenhouse warming" is now occurring."[67] Only 5% disagreed with the idea that human activity is a significant cause of global warming.[67]
As described above, a small minority of scientists do disagree with the consensus: see list of scientists opposing global warming consensus. For example Willie Soon and Richard Lindzen[68] say that there is insufficient proof for anthropogenic attribution. Generally this position requires new physical mechanisms to explain the observed warming.[69]
Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long CoolingThe National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administrations most accurate, up-to-date temperature data confirm the United States has been cooling for at least the past decade. The NOAA temperature data are driving a stake through the heart of alarmists claiming accelerating global warming.
Responding to widespread criticism that its temperature station readings were corrupted by poor citing issues and suspect adjustments, NOAA established a network of 114 pristinely cited temperature stations spread out fairly uniformly throughout the United States. Because the network, known as the U.S. Climate Reference Network (USCRN), is so uniformly and pristinely situated, the temperature data require no adjustments to provide an accurate nationwide temperature record. USCRN began compiling temperature data in January 2005. Now, nearly a decade later, NOAA has finally made the USCRN temperature readings available.
According to the USCRN temperature readings, U.S. temperatures are not rising at all at least not since the network became operational 10 years ago. Instead, the United States has cooled by approximately 0.4 degrees Celsius, which is more than half of the claimed global warming of the twentieth century.
and the opinion of 97% of the world's experts.
I know, 75/77 is pretty serious!!
Reviews of scientific opinion
An essay in Science surveyed 928 abstracts related to climate change, and concluded that most journal reports accepted the consensus.[65] This is discussed further in scientific opinion on climate change.
A 2010 paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found that among a pool of roughly 1,000 researchers who work directly on climate issues and publish the most frequently on the subject, 97% agree that anthropogenic climate change is happening.[66]
A 2011 paper from George Mason University published in the International Journal of Public Opinion Research, "The Structure of Scientific Opinion on Climate Change," collected the opinions of scientists in the earth, space, atmospheric, oceanic or hydrological sciences.[67] The 489 survey respondents-representing nearly half of all those eligible according to the survey's specific standards - work in academia, government, and industry, and are members of prominent professional organizations.[67] The study found that 97% of the 489 scientists surveyed agreed that that global temperatures have risen over the past century.[67] Moreover, 84% agreed that "human-induced greenhouse warming" is now occurring."[67] Only 5% disagreed with the idea that human activity is a significant cause of global warming.[67]
As described above, a small minority of scientists do disagree with the consensus: see list of scientists opposing global warming consensus. For example Willie Soon and Richard Lindzen[68] say that there is insufficient proof for anthropogenic attribution. Generally this position requires new physical mechanisms to explain the observed warming.[69]
A 2010 paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found that among a pool of roughly 1,000 researchers who work directly on climate issues and publish the most frequently on the subject, 97% agree that anthropogenic climate change is happening.[66]
That would be a lot more impressive if the climategate emails didn't show how the warmers worked to prevent skeptics from being published.
Reviews of scientific opinion
An essay in Science surveyed 928 abstracts related to climate change, and concluded that most journal reports accepted the consensus.[65] This is discussed further in scientific opinion on climate change.
A 2010 paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found that among a pool of roughly 1,000 researchers who work directly on climate issues and publish the most frequently on the subject, 97% agree that anthropogenic climate change is happening.[66]
A 2011 paper from George Mason University published in the International Journal of Public Opinion Research, "The Structure of Scientific Opinion on Climate Change," collected the opinions of scientists in the earth, space, atmospheric, oceanic or hydrological sciences.[67] The 489 survey respondents-representing nearly half of all those eligible according to the survey's specific standards - work in academia, government, and industry, and are members of prominent professional organizations.[67] The study found that 97% of the 489 scientists surveyed agreed that that global temperatures have risen over the past century.[67] Moreover, 84% agreed that "human-induced greenhouse warming" is now occurring."[67] Only 5% disagreed with the idea that human activity is a significant cause of global warming.[67]
As described above, a small minority of scientists do disagree with the consensus: see list of scientists opposing global warming consensus. For example Willie Soon and Richard Lindzen[68] say that there is insufficient proof for anthropogenic attribution. Generally this position requires new physical mechanisms to explain the observed warming.[69]
A 2010 paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found that among a pool of roughly 1,000 researchers who work directly on climate issues and publish the most frequently on the subject, 97% agree that anthropogenic climate change is happening.[66]
That would be a lot more impressive if the climategate emails didn't show how the warmers worked to prevent skeptics from being published.
THAT might be more impressive if anyone had ever produced any evidence off any such thing. Besides, if you could read you would have noted that this was a review of the opinions of researchers, not a review of their publications. Unsurprisingly (to those not fixated on fantasy conspiracies) there is a very strong correlation between what scientists believe and what they publish.
How about you explain how Phil Jones and Michael Mann were supposed to force the editors of the various refereed journals to only publish what Jones and Mann wanted them to publish. What was the method of enforcement? And where are the complaints from what would be - per your contention - THOUSANDS of scientists whose valid work was squashed? Eh?
Every single point you just tried to make was false.
Were you under the false impression that any of that refutes the claim that NOAA is cooking the books?This bogus claim has been refuted multiple times on these forums.
Not credibly.
NOAA Reinstates July 1936 As Hottest Month On Record | The Daily Caller
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, criticized for manipulating temperature records to create a warming trend, has now been caught warming the past and cooling the present.
July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the U.S. during a summer that was declared too hot to handle by NASA scientists. That summer more than half the country was experiencing drought and wildfires had scorched more than 1.3 million acres of land, according to NASA.
According to NOAAs National Climatic Data Center in 2012, the average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the warmest July and all-time warmest month on record for the nation in a period of record that dates back to 1895.
The previous warmest July for the nation was July 1936, when the average U.S. temperature was 77.4°F, NOAA said in 2012.
This statement by NOAA was still available on their website when checked by The Daily Caller News Foundation. But when meteorologist and climate blogger Anthony Watts went to check the NOAA data on Sunday he found that the science agency had quietly reinstated July 1936 as the hottest month on record in the U.S.
Two years ago during the scorching summer of 2012, July 1936 lost its place on the leaderboard and July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the United States, Watts wrote. Now, as if by magic, and according to NOAAs own data, July 1936 is now the hottest month on record again. The past, present, and future all seems to be adjustable in NOAAs world.
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You cant get any clearer proof of NOAA adjusting past temperatures, Watts wrote. This isnt just some issue with gridding, or anomalies, or method, it is about NOAA not being able to present historical climate information of the United States accurately.
In one report they give one number, and in another they give a different one with no explanation to the public as to why, Watts continued. This is not acceptable. It is not being honest with the public. It is not scientific. It violates the Data Quality Act.
1. His chart is only taking into account US data not global data
2. The time period is relatively short for measuring on a global scale
3. We have warming and cooling cycles but the OVERALL trend is warming
4. The article you posted is not from a credible source. A few clicks into it and it is clear that NOAA never said that. Someone played with the graphs to get that number.
Here is NOAAs actual words:
The average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the warmest July and all-time warmest month on record for the nation in a period of record that dates back to 1895. The previous warmest July for the nation was July 1936, when the average U.S. temperature was 77.4°F.
This is from the link provided in the Daily Caller. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.
Do you need help with the big words?Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long CoolingThe National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administrations most accurate, up-to-date temperature data confirm the United States has been cooling for at least the past decade. The NOAA temperature data are driving a stake through the heart of alarmists claiming accelerating global warming.
Responding to widespread criticism that its temperature station readings were corrupted by poor citing issues and suspect adjustments, NOAA established a network of 114 pristinely cited temperature stations spread out fairly uniformly throughout the United States. Because the network, known as the U.S. Climate Reference Network (USCRN), is so uniformly and pristinely situated, the temperature data require no adjustments to provide an accurate nationwide temperature record. USCRN began compiling temperature data in January 2005. Now, nearly a decade later, NOAA has finally made the USCRN temperature readings available.
According to the USCRN temperature readings, U.S. temperatures are not rising at all at least not since the network became operational 10 years ago. Instead, the United States has cooled by approximately 0.4 degrees Celsius, which is more than half of the claimed global warming of the twentieth century.
So, based on less than four months of data collected in the U.S. during the worst winter in decades, your conclusion is that not only is there no global warming, but that "Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long Cooling"?
Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long CoolingThe National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administrations most accurate, up-to-date temperature data confirm the United States has been cooling for at least the past decade. The NOAA temperature data are driving a stake through the heart of alarmists claiming accelerating global warming.
Responding to widespread criticism that its temperature station readings were corrupted by poor citing issues and suspect adjustments, NOAA established a network of 114 pristinely cited temperature stations spread out fairly uniformly throughout the United States. Because the network, known as the U.S. Climate Reference Network (USCRN), is so uniformly and pristinely situated, the temperature data require no adjustments to provide an accurate nationwide temperature record. USCRN began compiling temperature data in January 2005. Now, nearly a decade later, NOAA has finally made the USCRN temperature readings available.
According to the USCRN temperature readings, U.S. temperatures are not rising at all at least not since the network became operational 10 years ago. Instead, the United States has cooled by approximately 0.4 degrees Celsius, which is more than half of the claimed global warming of the twentieth century.
So, based on less than four months of data collected in the U.S. during the worst winter in decades, your conclusion is that not only is there no global warming, but that "Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long Cooling"?
