GOP Slaps the EPA upside the head

[Bfgrn]

I hope the next administration puts the brakes on the EPA and a lot of other agencies that are OVERSTEPPING their bounds.

They are killing our jobs and our country with their ridiculous crap like wanting to regulate DUST of all things.

Yea, the "jobs" bills the current House of Mis-representatives contrived would create thousands of jobs for undertakers, grave diggers and chemotherapy technicians.

Well then...stop friggen breathing.
my gawd. do you people have ANY control over your own lives.

OK, you first and I will follow...promise

 

[BOBO]

...are coming to a close RAPIDLY. Today's youth cannot understand them & nobody can trust them. EPA... rest in peace!

Farm dust bill approved in House - The Hill's Floor Action

The House on Thursday approved legislation Republicans said was aimed at ensuring the EPA cannot regulate so-called "farm dust."

The House on Thursday afternoon approved legislation Republicans said was aimed at ensuring that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) cannot regulate so-called "farm dust."

The Farm Dust Regulation Prevention Act, H.R. 1633, which would prevent the EPA from issuing any new rule over the next year that regulates coarse particulate matter, or "nuisance dust," passed in a 268-150 vote.


Like other environmental bills the GOP has brought forward this year, the bill enjoyed some support from Democrats: 33 voted along with Republicans in favor of the bill.


obama's losing a lot lately.

 

[Stephanie]

This administration's EPA is DANGERIOUS to us citizens.

now they are INTERFERING in our FOOD production, FARMS.

regulating DUST, are you friggen serious..

you people better WAKE THE HELL UP

 

[Bfgrn]

This administration's EPA is DANGERIOUS to us citizens.

now they are INTERFERING in our FOOD production, FARMS.

regulating DUST, are you friggen serious..

you people better WAKE THE HELL UP

Here is your only problem...the EPA has had particulate-dust pollution standards since 1987, AND...the EPA is NOT changing the regulations

Why are you right wingers so fucking stupid?

 

[Stephanie]

This administration's EPA is DANGERIOUS to us citizens.

now they are INTERFERING in our FOOD production, FARMS.

regulating DUST, are you friggen serious..

you people better WAKE THE HELL UP

Here is your only problem...the EPA has had particulate-dust pollution standards since 1987, AND...the EPA is NOT changing the regulations

Why are you right wingers so fucking stupid?

why are you so nasty?
what you posted is enough REASON to shut down the EPA. they are a bunch of IDIOTS and are now overstepping their positions with enacting OUTLANDISH regulations that is hurting JOBS and our COUNTRY. And this administations EPA is the WORST

 

[Bfgrn]

This administration's EPA is DANGERIOUS to us citizens.

now they are INTERFERING in our FOOD production, FARMS.

regulating DUST, are you friggen serious..

you people better WAKE THE HELL UP

Here is your only problem...the EPA has had particulate-dust pollution standards since 1987, AND...the EPA is NOT changing the regulations

Why are you right wingers so fucking stupid?

why are you so nasty?
what you posted is enough REASON to shut down the EPA. they are a bunch of IDIOTS and are now overstepping their positions with enacting OUTLANDISH regulations that is hurting JOBS and our COUNTRY. And this administations EPA is the WORST

Yea, this EPA has a lot of nerve. WHY the fuck are they trying to protect the environment? They should be protecting the polluters like the Bush EPA! So WHAT if the Clean Air Act prevents 230,000 deaths, 3.2 million lost school days, and 13 million lost work days a year. Those people will die anyway, why draw it out!

And the benefits of the Clean Air Act, including savings in medical expenses and increased worker productivity, are 30 times greater than its cost of implementation, and the benefits of regulation, more generally, also have been shown to exceed costs. Not inconsequentially, clean-air (and other) regulations also provide us with a cleaner, healthier natural environment.

Fucking Obama, how DARE he stop Republicans from thinning out the population and exterminate the low life common folks...

 

[westwall]

Here is your only problem...the EPA has had particulate-dust pollution standards since 1987, AND...the EPA is NOT changing the regulations

Why are you right wingers so fucking stupid?

why are you so nasty?
what you posted is enough REASON to shut down the EPA. they are a bunch of IDIOTS and are now overstepping their positions with enacting OUTLANDISH regulations that is hurting JOBS and our COUNTRY. And this administations EPA is the WORST

Yea, this EPA has a lot of nerve. WHY the fuck are they trying to protect the environment? They should be protecting the polluters like the Bush EPA! So WHAT if the Clean Air Act prevents 230,000 deaths, 3.2 million lost school days, and 13 million lost work days a year. Those people will die anyway, why draw it out!

And the benefits of the Clean Air Act, including savings in medical expenses and increased worker productivity, are 30 times greater than its cost of implementation, and the benefits of regulation, more generally, also have been shown to exceed costs. Not inconsequentially, clean-air (and other) regulations also provide us with a cleaner, healthier natural environment.

Fucking Obama, how DARE he stop Republicans from thinning out the population and exterminate the low life common folks...

And yet, the most damaging assault on the environement in the last 20 years was instigated by the California Air Resources Board which forced MTBE into the gasoline as an oxygenate (to help clean the air) over the concerns of scientists state wide that said there would serious problems with the addative.

Your side ignored all the evidence and did it anyway. Now, thousands of water wells have been poisoned all over the state of CA, and untold billions in environmental damage were done. All in the name of clean air. Sound familiar?

After 10 years the destruction became so obvious that they could no longer sweep it under the rug and they were FORCED to rescind the regs. It looks like the Republican congress is making sure that something equally moronic doesn't occur nationwide.

It seems that if you truly cared about the environment you would actually learn about it. Instead you and your ilk, scream, panic, and pass legislation that does more harm then the problem you were trying to fix.

Then when the damage is pointed out to you you say "well our intentions were good" and you think all should be forgiven. Guess what, you're not 5 years old anymore. You have to take responsibility for you actions.

Grow up.

 

[freedombecki]

why are you so nasty?
what you posted is enough REASON to shut down the EPA. they are a bunch of IDIOTS and are now overstepping their positions with enacting OUTLANDISH regulations that is hurting JOBS and our COUNTRY. And this administations EPA is the WORST

Yea, this EPA has a lot of nerve. WHY the fuck are they trying to protect the environment? They should be protecting the polluters like the Bush EPA! So WHAT if the Clean Air Act prevents 230,000 deaths, 3.2 million lost school days, and 13 million lost work days a year. Those people will die anyway, why draw it out!

And the benefits of the Clean Air Act, including savings in medical expenses and increased worker productivity, are 30 times greater than its cost of implementation, and the benefits of regulation, more generally, also have been shown to exceed costs. Not inconsequentially, clean-air (and other) regulations also provide us with a cleaner, healthier natural environment.

Fucking Obama, how DARE he stop Republicans from thinning out the population and exterminate the low life common folks...

And yet, the most damaging assault on the environment in the last 20 years was instigated by the California Air Resources Board which forced MTBE into the gasoline as an oxygenate (to help clean the air) over the concerns of scientists state wide that said there would serious problems with the additive.

Your side ignored all the evidence and did it anyway. Now, thousands of water wells have been poisoned all over the state of CA, and untold billions in environmental damage were done. All in the name of clean air. Sound familiar?

After 10 years the destruction became so obvious that they could no longer sweep it under the rug and they were FORCED to rescind the regs. It looks like the Republican congress is making sure that something equally moronic doesn't occur nationwide.

It seems that if you truly cared about the environment you would actually learn about it. Instead you and your ilk, scream, panic, and pass legislation that does more harm then the problem you were trying to fix.

Then when the damage is pointed out to you you say "well our intentions were good" and you think all should be forgiven. Guess what, you're not 5 years old anymore. You have to take responsibility for you actions.

Why am I not surprised that greenies who would obfuscate important climate information to tap into government funding all over the world would proffer an additive that poisons water because it seemed to alleviate air pollution?

You're not supposed to remind lefties of their egregious errors, because they all go away when you do and dig up something else with which to destroy American business and the free enterprise system.

 

[The Gadfly]

This is a BOGUS move by the most anti-environment House of Representatives in American history. By LAW, the EPA has to review regulations to examine effectiveness and see if new technologies are available.

And their OWN scientists have told them that their proposed regulations will do nothing. Do try and keep up.

There was NO proposed change to the regulation. It was a REVIEW where changes were DISCUSSED. WTF is going on with you fucking right wing extremists? Now you want to stifle any TALK or debate? You sound like fascists.

No, all we want to do, is impose some degree of control and accountability on an out-of-control, mostly unaccountable, and power-hungry bureaucracy.

I grew up on the farm; farming raises a lot of dust sometimes, and I can't say it ever hurt any of us. But, it's like anything else out here in rural America-damn city people, who don't live on the land, or work it or conserve it themselves, wanting to tell us how to live , and impose one-size-fits-all government regulations, on something the vast majority of them (and their faceless, mindless bureaucrats) know nothing about. Most of us out here in flyover country love the land; and even though you think we are ignorant hicks, we know how to take care of it, too. Now why don't you citified liberals stay the hell out of our business, and stay in those antheaps you call cities. Be less trouble that way; we don't want to go there, and we don't want you (or your damn government bureaucrats) out here!

 

[Bfgrn]

why are you so nasty?
what you posted is enough REASON to shut down the EPA. they are a bunch of IDIOTS and are now overstepping their positions with enacting OUTLANDISH regulations that is hurting JOBS and our COUNTRY. And this administations EPA is the WORST

Yea, this EPA has a lot of nerve. WHY the fuck are they trying to protect the environment? They should be protecting the polluters like the Bush EPA! So WHAT if the Clean Air Act prevents 230,000 deaths, 3.2 million lost school days, and 13 million lost work days a year. Those people will die anyway, why draw it out!

And the benefits of the Clean Air Act, including savings in medical expenses and increased worker productivity, are 30 times greater than its cost of implementation, and the benefits of regulation, more generally, also have been shown to exceed costs. Not inconsequentially, clean-air (and other) regulations also provide us with a cleaner, healthier natural environment.

Fucking Obama, how DARE he stop Republicans from thinning out the population and exterminate the low life common folks...

And yet, the most damaging assault on the environement in the last 20 years was instigated by the California Air Resources Board which forced MTBE into the gasoline as an oxygenate (to help clean the air) over the concerns of scientists state wide that said there would serious problems with the addative.

Your side ignored all the evidence and did it anyway. Now, thousands of water wells have been poisoned all over the state of CA, and untold billions in environmental damage were done. All in the name of clean air. Sound familiar?

After 10 years the destruction became so obvious that they could no longer sweep it under the rug and they were FORCED to rescind the regs. It looks like the Republican congress is making sure that something equally moronic doesn't occur nationwide.

It seems that if you truly cared about the environment you would actually learn about it. Instead you and your ilk, scream, panic, and pass legislation that does more harm then the problem you were trying to fix.

Then when the damage is pointed out to you you say "well our intentions were good" and you think all should be forgiven. Guess what, you're not 5 years old anymore. You have to take responsibility for you actions.

Grow up.

I don't take anything you say as truthful. Provide links with detailed proof of your accusations. California was also the first state to ban MTBE under Gray Davis.

Also, it's clear you didn't read the op-ed I posted from Republicans For Environmental Protection.

Excerpt:

New Hampshire's drinking water is threatened by the Bush administration. Fifteen percent of New Hampshire's public water supplies and thousands of its private wells are contaminated by the fuel additive MtBE. Recent studies show that MtBE may cause cancer, and it makes drinking water smell and taste foul even at low levels, yet the administration has not banned its use.

To pay for the cleanup of this contamination, New Hampshire sued 22 oil companies responsible for MtBE contamination. Nonetheless, the Bush administration's energy bill would block these suits and force New Hampshire taxpayers to foot the bill for cleaning up the state's contaminated drinking water. The industry contributed $338,000 to the Bush presidential campaign and Republican congressional candidates in 1999 and 2000.

 

[westwall]

Yea, this EPA has a lot of nerve. WHY the fuck are they trying to protect the environment? They should be protecting the polluters like the Bush EPA! So WHAT if the Clean Air Act prevents 230,000 deaths, 3.2 million lost school days, and 13 million lost work days a year. Those people will die anyway, why draw it out!

And the benefits of the Clean Air Act, including savings in medical expenses and increased worker productivity, are 30 times greater than its cost of implementation, and the benefits of regulation, more generally, also have been shown to exceed costs. Not inconsequentially, clean-air (and other) regulations also provide us with a cleaner, healthier natural environment.

Fucking Obama, how DARE he stop Republicans from thinning out the population and exterminate the low life common folks...

And yet, the most damaging assault on the environement in the last 20 years was instigated by the California Air Resources Board which forced MTBE into the gasoline as an oxygenate (to help clean the air) over the concerns of scientists state wide that said there would serious problems with the addative.

Your side ignored all the evidence and did it anyway. Now, thousands of water wells have been poisoned all over the state of CA, and untold billions in environmental damage were done. All in the name of clean air. Sound familiar?

After 10 years the destruction became so obvious that they could no longer sweep it under the rug and they were FORCED to rescind the regs. It looks like the Republican congress is making sure that something equally moronic doesn't occur nationwide.

It seems that if you truly cared about the environment you would actually learn about it. Instead you and your ilk, scream, panic, and pass legislation that does more harm then the problem you were trying to fix.

Then when the damage is pointed out to you you say "well our intentions were good" and you think all should be forgiven. Guess what, you're not 5 years old anymore. You have to take responsibility for you actions.

Grow up.

I don't take anything you say as truthful. Provide links with detailed proof of your accusations. California was also the first state to ban MTBE under Gray Davis.

Also, it's clear you didn't read the op-ed I posted from Republicans For Environmental Protection.

Excerpt:

New Hampshire's drinking water is threatened by the Bush administration. Fifteen percent of New Hampshire's public water supplies and thousands of its private wells are contaminated by the fuel additive MtBE. Recent studies show that MtBE may cause cancer, and it makes drinking water smell and taste foul even at low levels, yet the administration has not banned its use.

To pay for the cleanup of this contamination, New Hampshire sued 22 oil companies responsible for MtBE contamination. Nonetheless, the Bush administration's energy bill would block these suits and force New Hampshire taxpayers to foot the bill for cleaning up the state's contaminated drinking water. The industry contributed $338,000 to the Bush presidential campaign and Republican congressional candidates in 1999 and 2000.

Here you go. Enjoy the read there's a lot of it as this is quite literally the tip of the iceberg. The funny thing is, now if you go to the CARB website they proclaim to the heavens how they were instrumental in removing it from gasoline in CA. However, when you go back you see they were THE PRIMARY driver to get it added to the gasoline. To make things worse. They were doing it at the behest of Chevron.

You see Chevron had to pay large quantities of money to dispose of the MTBE which was a by-product of the refining process. They were able to convince some worthless bureaucrats in Sacramento that adding MTBE to the gas would be a great idea. That way Chevron got to get paid for something that they had had to pay to get rid of. The first thing up is a LA Times article from 1997 when Chevron finally had to start admitting that it was a terribly destructive additive. I have highlighted the folks attempting to KEEP it in the fuel....





Chevron Seeks to Stop Using Additive MTBE

California and the West

Environment: Company says the agent does little to reduce air pollution and is a threat to water supplies.

December 03, 1997|DAN MORAIN | TIMES STAFF WRITER

SACRAMENTO — In a significant reversal, Chevron Corp. and a leading oil industry group are taking steps to stop using a key additive in gasoline that helps cut smog, oil company executives said Tuesday.

Just a few months ago, the oil industry, the California Air Resources Board and even some environmentalists mounted a major lobbying effort against legislation to ban the additive MTBE.
Tuesday's statements come amid mounting concern that although MTBE may help clean California's air, it is leaking from gasoline storage tanks, mixing with ground water and threatening to pollute drinking water.

Doug Henderson, executive director of the Glendale-based Western States Petroleum Assn., said Tuesday that his group is backing federal legislation by Rep. Brian P. Bilbray (R-San Diego) that would permit California refiners to omit MTBE from gasoline, so long as clean air standards still can be met.

"The proclamations about the dangers of MTBE are exaggerated, but we don't want to be complacent about any [water] contamination," said Henderson, whose group represents major oil firms."




Chevron Seeks to Stop Using Additive MTBE - Los Angeles Times

Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether (MTBE) | US EPA

MTBE

MTBE Definition Page

MTBE in Drinking Water

 

[Bfgrn]

And yet, the most damaging assault on the environement in the last 20 years was instigated by the California Air Resources Board which forced MTBE into the gasoline as an oxygenate (to help clean the air) over the concerns of scientists state wide that said there would serious problems with the addative.

Your side ignored all the evidence and did it anyway. Now, thousands of water wells have been poisoned all over the state of CA, and untold billions in environmental damage were done. All in the name of clean air. Sound familiar?

After 10 years the destruction became so obvious that they could no longer sweep it under the rug and they were FORCED to rescind the regs. It looks like the Republican congress is making sure that something equally moronic doesn't occur nationwide.

It seems that if you truly cared about the environment you would actually learn about it. Instead you and your ilk, scream, panic, and pass legislation that does more harm then the problem you were trying to fix.

Then when the damage is pointed out to you you say "well our intentions were good" and you think all should be forgiven. Guess what, you're not 5 years old anymore. You have to take responsibility for you actions.

Grow up.

I don't take anything you say as truthful. Provide links with detailed proof of your accusations. California was also the first state to ban MTBE under Gray Davis.

Also, it's clear you didn't read the op-ed I posted from Republicans For Environmental Protection.

Excerpt:

New Hampshire's drinking water is threatened by the Bush administration. Fifteen percent of New Hampshire's public water supplies and thousands of its private wells are contaminated by the fuel additive MtBE. Recent studies show that MtBE may cause cancer, and it makes drinking water smell and taste foul even at low levels, yet the administration has not banned its use.

To pay for the cleanup of this contamination, New Hampshire sued 22 oil companies responsible for MtBE contamination. Nonetheless, the Bush administration's energy bill would block these suits and force New Hampshire taxpayers to foot the bill for cleaning up the state's contaminated drinking water. The industry contributed $338,000 to the Bush presidential campaign and Republican congressional candidates in 1999 and 2000.

Here you go. Enjoy the read there's a lot of it as this is quite literally the tip of the iceberg. The funny thing is, now if you go to the CARB website they proclaim to the heavens how they were instrumental in removing it from gasoline in CA. However, when you go back you see they were THE PRIMARY driver to get it added to the gasoline. To make things worse. They were doing it at the behest of Chevron.

You see Chevron had to pay large quantities of money to dispose of the MTBE which was a by-product of the refining process. They were able to convince some worthless bureaucrats in Sacramento that adding MTBE to the gas would be a great idea. That way Chevron got to get paid for something that they had had to pay to get rid of. The first thing up is a LA Times article from 1997 when Chevron finally had to start admitting that it was a terribly destructive additive. I have highlighted the folks attempting to KEEP it in the fuel....





Chevron Seeks to Stop Using Additive MTBE

California and the West

Environment: Company says the agent does little to reduce air pollution and is a threat to water supplies.

December 03, 1997|DAN MORAIN | TIMES STAFF WRITER

SACRAMENTO — In a significant reversal, Chevron Corp. and a leading oil industry group are taking steps to stop using a key additive in gasoline that helps cut smog, oil company executives said Tuesday.

Just a few months ago, the oil industry, the California Air Resources Board and even some environmentalists mounted a major lobbying effort against legislation to ban the additive MTBE.
Tuesday's statements come amid mounting concern that although MTBE may help clean California's air, it is leaking from gasoline storage tanks, mixing with ground water and threatening to pollute drinking water.

Doug Henderson, executive director of the Glendale-based Western States Petroleum Assn., said Tuesday that his group is backing federal legislation by Rep. Brian P. Bilbray (R-San Diego) that would permit California refiners to omit MTBE from gasoline, so long as clean air standards still can be met.

"The proclamations about the dangers of MTBE are exaggerated, but we don't want to be complacent about any [water] contamination," said Henderson, whose group represents major oil firms."




Chevron Seeks to Stop Using Additive MTBE - Los Angeles Times

Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether (MTBE) | US EPA

MTBE

MTBE Definition Page

MTBE in Drinking Water

You have not established ANY of your claims. What you emote does not qualify as proof.

BTW, didn't Gov. Pete Wilson apply political pressure to CARB to pass the MTBE regulation?

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Typical Tea Bagging legislation

Passin laws against a nonexistent threat

Typical rightwinger brain dead comment.

Show where the EPA had planned regulation against "Farm Dust"

Hey, Toby, we conservatives have been following this matter for months. You are staggeringly ignorant. That's all. See Westfall's post.

 

[newpolitics]

This administration's EPA is DANGERIOUS to us citizens.

now they are INTERFERING in our FOOD production, FARMS.

regulating DUST, are you friggen serious..

you people better WAKE THE HELL UP

Here is your only problem...the EPA has had particulate-dust pollution standards since 1987, AND...the EPA is NOT changing the regulations

Why are you right wingers so fucking stupid?

why are you so nasty?
what you posted is enough REASON to shut down the EPA. they are a bunch of IDIOTS and are now overstepping their positions with enacting OUTLANDISH regulations that is hurting JOBS and our COUNTRY. And this administations EPA is the WORST

why are you so shortsighted? The EPA is not to protect jobs. That implies they are protecting industry. They are protecting humans from themselves, from destroying the resource that brings us life: the earth. Don't be so godamn arrogant in terms of your attitude towards this Earth. The EPA is in bed the major corporations, yet you act like they hinder them. You obviously have no idea of the corruption that is inherent in helping the major, big polluters. All you worry about is human jobs. We are not everything. Our Earth is more important, so that generations to come can enjoy it.

 

[rdean]

The EPA's "dust" regulation is now firmly parked in the same bin with, "Obama took a trip costing 200 million dollars a day" and "Freddie/Fannie was behind the economic meltdown" and "Obama wanted to let terrorists go free in your backyard".

 

[westwall]

Here is your only problem...the EPA has had particulate-dust pollution standards since 1987, AND...the EPA is NOT changing the regulations

Why are you right wingers so fucking stupid?

why are you so nasty?
what you posted is enough REASON to shut down the EPA. they are a bunch of IDIOTS and are now overstepping their positions with enacting OUTLANDISH regulations that is hurting JOBS and our COUNTRY. And this administations EPA is the WORST

why are you so shortsighted? The EPA is not to protect jobs. That implies they are protecting industry. They are protecting humans from themselves, from destroying the resource that brings us life: the earth. Don't be so godamn arrogant in terms of your attitude towards this Earth. The EPA is in bed the major corporations, yet you act like they hinder them. You obviously have no idea of the corruption that is inherent in helping the major, big polluters. All you worry about is human jobs. We are not everything. Our Earth is more important, so that generations to come can enjoy it.

Then why did you allow the California version of the EPA to poison all those water wells? That killed far more critters then bad quality air ever did. And a hell of a lot quicker as well.

 

[blastoff]

Got no problem slapping the EPA up side the head now and then, but what's needed is a well timed kick in the nuts once in a while.

 

[AmericanFirst]

obama's losing a lot lately

As is the GOP, wasting its time on this nonsense rather than jobs and the economy.

It is the idiot EPA and their stupid regulations that is stiffling the job market. Goo for the GOP!!!!

 

[HoosierJoe]

EPA is yet another government entity we don't need. Along with the dept of Edumacation.

 

[Navy1960]

ED currently administers a budget of $69.9 billion in discretionary appropriations (including discretionary Pell Grant funding) under the FY 2011 Continuing Resolution annualized level and operates programs that touch on every area and level of education. The Department's elementary and secondary programs annually serve nearly 14,000 school districts and approximately 56 million students attending some 99,000 public schools and 34,000 private schools. Department programs also provide grant, loan, and work-study assistance to more than 15 million postsecondary students.
U.S. Department of Education Budget Office

The $382 billion F-35 Joint Strike fighter program may well be the largest single global defense program in history. This major multinational program is intended to produce an “affordably stealthy”
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: 2009-2010

Lets put this in a little perspective here, the Department of Educations budget is less than that of just one single DOD aircraft acquisition program and more so it is less so by far. If the opinion is to get rid of the Department of Education and give it back to the states who already have budget issues themselves then the question becomes, if we as a nation wish to compete in an ever increasing technology marketplace that requires engineers, doctors, math disciplines, computer science. and many other disciplines, then are we citizens willing to accept local tax hikes in our property taxes to pay for our schooling, or are we willing to accept a second class status. The budget of the Department of Education is a small price to pay for the return we get on educating our children and perhaps rather than advocate for its demise in order to save money the best approach would be to advocate that they work smarter and advocate for lowering the cost of educating our children.