Gop Offers These 11 Principles

[Mad Scientist]

I've heard this shit from both parties for every election since 1976. But when they get elected they just do what the Bankers say.

When are Americans gonna' stop falling for it?

 

[Samson]

I've heard this shit from both parties for every election since 1976. But when they get elected they just do what the Bankers say.

When are Americans gonna' stop falling for it?

What choice do we have?

 

[PoliticalChic]

• Economy: We need to start growing America’s economy instead of Washington’s economy so that working Americans see better wages and more opportunity.

Who could argue with that? But we need detail on how Republicans propose to increase wages and opportunities. They didn't the last time we let them run things

Who could argue with that?
Everyone who supported/supports Obama.


1.” The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.” Obama said on July 3, 2008, at a campaign event in Fargo, N.D.
Flashback Obama Says Adding 4 Trillion to National Debt Unpatriotic - Fox Nation


2. WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Barack Obama pledged Monday to cut the nation's $1.3 trillion deficit in half by the end of his first term.
Obama pledges to cut nation s deficit in half - Feb. 23 2009

a. “The total national debt now stands at $15.8 trillion, up from $10.6 trillion when Mr. Obama took office, an increase of nearly 50 percent. A commonly cited and more economically important subset, debt held by the public, has grown to $11 trillion from $6.3 trillion, a 75 percent increase —
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/20/u...d-romney.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www

3. Then-Senator Barack Obama makes the case for an Obama Presidency on November 21, 2007 by saying he is uniquely qualified to bring stability to America’s relationships in the Muslim world because he lived in an Islamic country during his youth and his half-sister is Muslim.
Obama Flashback The Day I m Inaugurated Muslim Hostility will Cease Tea Party


4. Comparison to January 2009- The size of the working age population grew over 8 million from 234.739 million at the time Obama was sworn in. Yet, the labor force has grown by just 130,000. The labor-participation rate has dropped 2.1%. Also, there are still 325,000 less people in raw numbers that hold jobs than there were at the time of his inauguration. Overall, there are almost 8 million more people not in the labor force relative to January 2009. April Jobs More is Less RedState

5. "The 35.4 Percent: 109,631,000 on Welfare
109,631,000 Americans lived in households that received benefits from one or more federally funded "means-tested programs" — also known as welfare — as of the fourth quarter of 2012,according to data released Tuesdayby the Census Bureau. When those receiving benefits from non-means-tested federal programs — such as Social Security, Medicare, unemployment and veterans benefits — were added to those taking welfare benefits, it turned out that 153,323,000 people were getting federal benefits of some type at the end of 2012.

Subtract the 3,297,000 who were receiving veterans' benefits from the total, and that leaves 150,026,000 people receiving non-veterans' benefits."
The 35.4 Percent 109 631 000 on Welfare CNS News

Nice cut and paste
Your fingers must be sore

But unfortunately, it has nothing to do with Republican proposals to increase wages and opportunities

About time the GOP told America what it was offering.


"Pushing back against criticism that the GOP had become defined entirely by opposition to President Obama, Republican Party Chairman Reince Priebus released a list of 11 “Principles for American Renewal” that he said would guide the GOP agenda should it gain control of government."
GOP debuts new principles to demonstrate positive agenda MSNBC


Any disagreement on these ideas for governing?

Here are the Republican Party's Principles for American Renewal

• Constitution: Our Constitution should be preserved, valued and honored.
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• Economy: We need to start growing America’s economy instead of Washington’s economy so that working Americans see better wages and more opportunity.
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• Budget/Debt: We need to pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution, make government more efficient, and leave the next generation with opportunity, not debt.

• Healthcare: We need to start over with real healthcare reform that puts patients and their doctors in charge, not unelected bureaucrats in Washington.
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• Veterans: Our veterans have earned our respect and gratitude, and no veteran should have to wait in line for months or years just to see a doctor.
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• Security: Keeping America safe and strong requires a strong military, growing the economy, energy independence, and secure borders.

• Education: Every child should have an equal opportunity to get a great education; no parent should be forced to send their child to a failing school.
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• Poverty: The best anti-poverty program is a strong family and a good job, so our focus should be on getting people out of poverty by lifting up all people and helping them find work.
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• Values: Our country should value the traditions of family, life, religious liberty, and hard work.

• Energy: We should make America energy independent by encouraging investment in domestic energy, lowering prices, and creating jobs at home.
• Immigration: We need an immigration system that secures our borders, upholds the law, and boosts our economy.
• GOP s Principles for American Renewal GOP

What's not to like?

Well aside from the fact that there is no PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE LOFTY GOALS is a problem.
That and I didn't see anything about puppies, apple pie and mom.

" ....there is no PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE LOFTY GOALS."

Sure is, Zekey.....

It's called "Throw Out Every Democrat/Liberal/Progressive."


Really nothing new.....Shakespeare's Henry VI, a similar plan: "kill all the lawyers. ..."

You realize that's not a plan, right? Say it happened, all democrats/liberals/progressives are thrown out. What then?

OK....not all.

How about we keep one or two for the circus side show and the zoos.

 

[Samson]

• Immigration: We need an immigration system that secures our borders, upholds the law, and boosts our economy.

Dodges the question about what we do with 12 million who are already here

You mean 12 million here illegally that volunteered to be counted for some inexplicable reason.

"Upholds the law" means their employers would be prosecuted, and they would be expelled, or that the law would be changed.

 

[Samson]

• Energy: We should make America energy independent by encouraging investment in domestic energy, lowering prices, and creating jobs at home.

Sounds like drill baby drill and frack baby frack. What about other energy? Solar, wind, biofuel, nuclear.....can we talk conservation?

How is your electric car and solar heated home working for you today.

Don't have them

I also don't have an oil well in my back yard

You have a backyard?

I thought you just wandered around without gas or electricity eating berries and nuts, between begging strangers to use their computers to post on USMB.

 

[rightwinger]

• Immigration: We need an immigration system that secures our borders, upholds the law, and boosts our economy.

Dodges the question about what we do with 12 million who are already here

You mean 12 million here illegally that volunteered to be counted for some inexplicable reason.

"Upholds the law" means their employers would be prosecuted, and they would be expelled, or that the law would be changed.

I do not see anything in the GOP platform about prosecuting employers. Just walls and deportation
If we prosecuted employers, we would need neither

 

[Samson]

• Immigration: We need an immigration system that secures our borders, upholds the law, and boosts our economy.

Dodges the question about what we do with 12 million who are already here

You mean 12 million here illegally that volunteered to be counted for some inexplicable reason.

"Upholds the law" means their employers would be prosecuted, and they would be expelled, or that the law would be changed.

I do not see anything in the GOP platform about prosecuting employers. Just walls and deportation
If we prosecuted employers, we would need neither

Well, what did you think, "Upholds the Law" means?

 

[hadit]

• Immigration: We need an immigration system that secures our borders, upholds the law, and boosts our economy.

Dodges the question about what we do with 12 million who are already here

Priorities. It's most important to know who we're ALLOWING into the country, and making sure only those we ALLOW into the country are getting in. Then we deal with those who are already here. The democrat strategy is to always push the second priority first, because they know we'll never get around to the first. They simply don't want to ensure only those meeting our criteria come in, any more than they want to ensure only those eligible to vote are the only ones voting.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

All I see is a bunch of empty rhetoric that they will NEVER deliver on.

That's why I stopped listening to politicians talk, and this means both parties. All they offer is lip service. Speeches, debates, rallys, commercials, they're all lip service. Anyone who believes what a politician says is a dumbass, plain and simple.

 

[PoliticalChic]

All I see is a bunch of empty rhetoric that they will NEVER deliver on.

That's why I stopped listening to politicians talk, and this means both parties. All they offer is lip service. Speeches, debates, rallys, commercials, they're all lip service. Anyone who believes what a politician says is a dumbass, plain and simple.

So.......who'd ya' vote for last time?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Education: Every child should have an equal opportunity to get a great education; no parent should be forced to send their child to a failing school.

"Every Child?"


Illegal Immigrant's children? They should be given student loans?

I'm sure I don't like this.

It's an ill-disguised call for school vouchers, and the term vouchers is an ill-disguised call for another big government program to use your tax dollars so other parents can send their kids to private school.

 

[NYcarbineer]

They're claiming they'll spend more on defense, cut taxes, balance the budget, and pay off the debt.

...and that's not all! If you act quickly, you will also get these beautiful steak knives!!

 

[ClosedCaption]

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• Budget/Debt: We need to pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution, make government more efficient, and leave the next generation with opportunity, not debt.

lol, good one. The GOP is promising to balance the budget and pay off the national debt in one generation.

While they cut taxes bwahahahah

 

[zeke]

All I see is a bunch of empty rhetoric that they will NEVER deliver on.

That's why I stopped listening to politicians talk, and this means both parties. All they offer is lip service. Speeches, debates, rallys, commercials, they're all lip service. Anyone who believes what a politician says is a dumbass, plain and simple.

So.......who'd ya' vote for last time?

Voting "for" implies that the recipient of my vote was proposing ideas I agreed with.
However, sometimes the choice presented is to vote for who you think will do the least amount of damage to yourself and others in your life.

In either case, whoever we vote "for" is a plutocrat and just like the house always wins when you bet, so it is for plutocrats. Somehow they will ALL win in the end. Win or lose an election doesn't matter. Plutocrats will be just fine.

Ourselves? (cause I know you ain't no plutocrat) I guess it just depends on who you wanna bet on. Really that's all we are doing. We know the campaign rhetoric is just that. We just want to believe that for once the politicians will do what they offered to do during the campaign. But usually they don't.

I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me.
I really hated how the Iraqi invasion was sold to the American people, so the likelihood of me listening to a Republican candidate after the primaries were overwas none. Outcome forgone after than. Cause I always place my bet on somebody.

But I sure hope Hillary don't run.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Didn't the GOP have at least 6 years to do all this under Bush, with a GOP Congress?

 

[PoliticalChic]

All I see is a bunch of empty rhetoric that they will NEVER deliver on.

That's why I stopped listening to politicians talk, and this means both parties. All they offer is lip service. Speeches, debates, rallys, commercials, they're all lip service. Anyone who believes what a politician says is a dumbass, plain and simple.

So.......who'd ya' vote for last time?

Voting "for" implies that the recipient of my vote was proposing ideas I agreed with.
However, sometimes the choice presented is to vote for who you think will do the least amount of damage to yourself and others in your life.

In either case, whoever we vote "for" is a plutocrat and just like the house always wins when you bet, so it is for plutocrats. Somehow they will ALL win in the end. Win or lose an election doesn't matter. Plutocrats will be just fine.

Ourselves? (cause I know you ain't no plutocrat) I guess it just depends on who you wanna bet on. Really that's all we are doing. We know the campaign rhetoric is just that. We just want to believe that for once the politicians will do what they offered to do during the campaign. But usually they don't.

I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me.
I really hated how the Iraqi invasion was sold to the American people, so the likelihood of me listening to a Republican candidate after the primaries were overwas none. Outcome forgone after than. Cause I always place my bet on somebody.

But I sure hope Hillary don't run.

"I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me."

How about now?

 

[ogibillm]

All I see is a bunch of empty rhetoric that they will NEVER deliver on.

That's why I stopped listening to politicians talk, and this means both parties. All they offer is lip service. Speeches, debates, rallys, commercials, they're all lip service. Anyone who believes what a politician says is a dumbass, plain and simple.

So.......who'd ya' vote for last time?

Voting "for" implies that the recipient of my vote was proposing ideas I agreed with.
However, sometimes the choice presented is to vote for who you think will do the least amount of damage to yourself and others in your life.

In either case, whoever we vote "for" is a plutocrat and just like the house always wins when you bet, so it is for plutocrats. Somehow they will ALL win in the end. Win or lose an election doesn't matter. Plutocrats will be just fine.

Ourselves? (cause I know you ain't no plutocrat) I guess it just depends on who you wanna bet on. Really that's all we are doing. We know the campaign rhetoric is just that. We just want to believe that for once the politicians will do what they offered to do during the campaign. But usually they don't.

I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me.
I really hated how the Iraqi invasion was sold to the American people, so the likelihood of me listening to a Republican candidate after the primaries were overwas none. Outcome forgone after than. Cause I always place my bet on somebody.

But I sure hope Hillary don't run.

"I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me."

How about now?

still true.

 

[PoliticalChic]

All I see is a bunch of empty rhetoric that they will NEVER deliver on.

That's why I stopped listening to politicians talk, and this means both parties. All they offer is lip service. Speeches, debates, rallys, commercials, they're all lip service. Anyone who believes what a politician says is a dumbass, plain and simple.

So.......who'd ya' vote for last time?

Voting "for" implies that the recipient of my vote was proposing ideas I agreed with.
However, sometimes the choice presented is to vote for who you think will do the least amount of damage to yourself and others in your life.

In either case, whoever we vote "for" is a plutocrat and just like the house always wins when you bet, so it is for plutocrats. Somehow they will ALL win in the end. Win or lose an election doesn't matter. Plutocrats will be just fine.

Ourselves? (cause I know you ain't no plutocrat) I guess it just depends on who you wanna bet on. Really that's all we are doing. We know the campaign rhetoric is just that. We just want to believe that for once the politicians will do what they offered to do during the campaign. But usually they don't.

I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me.
I really hated how the Iraqi invasion was sold to the American people, so the likelihood of me listening to a Republican candidate after the primaries were overwas none. Outcome forgone after than. Cause I always place my bet on somebody.

But I sure hope Hillary don't run.

"I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me."

How about now?

still true.

Looking at the compendium of his failures in both domestic and foreign policy....

....only a moron would respond as you have.

 

[ogibillm]

All I see is a bunch of empty rhetoric that they will NEVER deliver on.

That's why I stopped listening to politicians talk, and this means both parties. All they offer is lip service. Speeches, debates, rallys, commercials, they're all lip service. Anyone who believes what a politician says is a dumbass, plain and simple.

So.......who'd ya' vote for last time?

Voting "for" implies that the recipient of my vote was proposing ideas I agreed with.
However, sometimes the choice presented is to vote for who you think will do the least amount of damage to yourself and others in your life.

In either case, whoever we vote "for" is a plutocrat and just like the house always wins when you bet, so it is for plutocrats. Somehow they will ALL win in the end. Win or lose an election doesn't matter. Plutocrats will be just fine.

Ourselves? (cause I know you ain't no plutocrat) I guess it just depends on who you wanna bet on. Really that's all we are doing. We know the campaign rhetoric is just that. We just want to believe that for once the politicians will do what they offered to do during the campaign. But usually they don't.

I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me.
I really hated how the Iraqi invasion was sold to the American people, so the likelihood of me listening to a Republican candidate after the primaries were overwas none. Outcome forgone after than. Cause I always place my bet on somebody.

But I sure hope Hillary don't run.

"I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me."

How about now?

still true.

Looking at the compendium of his failures in both domestic and foreign policy....

....only a moron would respond as you have.

meh. the alternative would have the entire united states as broke as kansas, we'd probably be involved in a half dozen or so ground wars, and most of those "failures" would still have happened.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So.......who'd ya' vote for last time?

Voting "for" implies that the recipient of my vote was proposing ideas I agreed with.
However, sometimes the choice presented is to vote for who you think will do the least amount of damage to yourself and others in your life.

In either case, whoever we vote "for" is a plutocrat and just like the house always wins when you bet, so it is for plutocrats. Somehow they will ALL win in the end. Win or lose an election doesn't matter. Plutocrats will be just fine.

Ourselves? (cause I know you ain't no plutocrat) I guess it just depends on who you wanna bet on. Really that's all we are doing. We know the campaign rhetoric is just that. We just want to believe that for once the politicians will do what they offered to do during the campaign. But usually they don't.

I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me.
I really hated how the Iraqi invasion was sold to the American people, so the likelihood of me listening to a Republican candidate after the primaries were overwas none. Outcome forgone after than. Cause I always place my bet on somebody.

But I sure hope Hillary don't run.

"I voted for Obama, twice. Cause the alternative seemed like a much worse bet to me."

How about now?

still true.

Looking at the compendium of his failures in both domestic and foreign policy....

....only a moron would respond as you have.

meh. the alternative would have the entire united states as broke as kansas, we'd probably be involved in a half dozen or so ground wars, and most of those "failures" would still have happened.

Let's analyze that jejune response.

In order to defend the failure both of your judgement and the one in the White House, you, like Maria Ospenskya, rely on a crystal ball....or, perhaps the Magic 8 Ball.


I, on the other hand, have the facts....the reality.


Seems to be the same pattern every time our paths cross.