GOP Cleans Up At The State Level Too

[Freemason9]

The GOP retains its power through heavily-gerrymandered congressional districts, and that corruption of the election process happened because of control of state-level professional politicians. It cannot be fixed. (When the authorities have all the tools, they make the rules.)

 

[longknife]

GOP Rout at State Level

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As I've previously posted, this is probably far more meaningful than the 2014 US Senate changes. It will have far-flung results that will last for years. And, it does not appear to deal with an increase in Independents elected to many state and local offices.


Read more @ Republican rout at state level reflects backlash against federal control WashingtonExaminer.com_

 

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The GOP retains its power through heavily-gerrymandered congressional districts, and that corruption of the election process happened because of control of state-level professional politicians. It cannot be fixed. (When the authorities have all the tools, they make the rules.)

Yes....

And we gerrymandered our way into a senate majority........

 

[FA_Q2]

The GOP retains its power through heavily-gerrymandered congressional districts, and that corruption of the election process happened because of control of state-level professional politicians. It cannot be fixed. (When the authorities have all the tools, they make the rules.)

As the above poster points out - that stance completely ignores reality.

You cant gerrymander the senate and yet the right didn't just win there - the won huge.

 

[Freemason9]

The GOP retains its power through heavily-gerrymandered congressional districts, and that corruption of the election process happened because of control of state-level professional politicians. It cannot be fixed. (When the authorities have all the tools, they make the rules.)

As the above poster points out - that stance completely ignores reality.

You cant gerrymander the senate and yet the right didn't just win there - the won huge.

How do you reconcile the astronomically unpopular ratings of the Republican Party with its success in elections?

This election was all about numbers . . . the Democratic Party stood for nothing, and only committed partisan Republicans (predictably) came to vote. About 20% of eligible voters put these people in office.

 

[longknife]

The GOP retains its power through heavily-gerrymandered congressional districts, and that corruption of the election process happened because of control of state-level professional politicians. It cannot be fixed. (When the authorities have all the tools, they make the rules.)

As the above poster points out - that stance completely ignores reality.

You cant gerrymander the senate and yet the right didn't just win there - the won huge.

How do you reconcile the astronomically unpopular ratings of the Republican Party with its success in elections?

This election was all about numbers . . . the Democratic Party stood for nothing, and only committed partisan Republicans (predictably) came to vote. About 20% of eligible voters put these people in office.

You just saw how skewed and inaccurate the polls were about the midterm elections. And you continue to believe polls that try to convince you how much Americans dislike the GOP?

Do you enjoy living in a fantasy world?

 

[g5000]

Personhood movement loses both state initiatives

From Marijuana to Gun Control, Liberal Initiatives Passed

Minimum wage increase wins in four red states

When specific liberal and conservative agenda items were on the ballot this election, the Left won and the Right lost. For example, "personhood" amendments failed in every state they were on the ballot. Gun control measures passed, as did every minimum wage increase that was on state ballots.

Since Democratic turnout was low, the success of specific liberal ballot measures, and the failure of conservative ballot measures, strongly suggests that some "liberal" agenda items have a lot of crossover with moderates and those who consider themselves to be conservatives, and that some conservative agenda items overreach and turn off voters.

This is why it is a mistake to conclude that the voters gave some kind of mandate to the GOP.

In a topic about the minimum wage a while ago, I pointed out that increasing the minimum wage had a lot of crossover and that the GOP was on the losing side. This past election proved that.

 

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I still don't get the "mandate" claim.

You get what you got in the election and you go about doing what you can with what you got. If the voters don't like it, they'll fire you the next time around.

Just ask the dems.

Mandate...schmandate.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The GOP retains its power through heavily-gerrymandered congressional districts, and that corruption of the election process happened because of control of state-level professional politicians. It cannot be fixed. (When the authorities have all the tools, they make the rules.)

And yet they won in States that were gerrymandered BY DEMOCRATS. In NC Republicans picked up one of the democratic seats in the US House.

 

[FA_Q2]

The GOP retains its power through heavily-gerrymandered congressional districts, and that corruption of the election process happened because of control of state-level professional politicians. It cannot be fixed. (When the authorities have all the tools, they make the rules.)

As the above poster points out - that stance completely ignores reality.

You cant gerrymander the senate and yet the right didn't just win there - the won huge.

How do you reconcile the astronomically unpopular ratings of the Republican Party with its success in elections?

This election was all about numbers . . . the Democratic Party stood for nothing, and only committed partisan Republicans (predictably) came to vote. About 20% of eligible voters put these people in office.

Because those numbers have no real connection to reality. How do you reconcile the fact that congress has an approval rating that is damn near single digits yet most are able to retain their seat? Easy - blaming the amorphous 'republicans' or 'democrats' of 'congress' is an easy cop out that requires almost no thought. Those very same people are just fine with THEIR congressman.

Opinion polls about what someone thinks of a single issue or a party are utterly irrelevant. What matters is what happens when they go to the polls and actually put a candidate in. What they think of the people they can actually vote for rather than a 'party' that does not actually exist on the ballot.

 

[FA_Q2]

Personhood movement loses both state initiatives

From Marijuana to Gun Control, Liberal Initiatives Passed

Minimum wage increase wins in four red states

When specific liberal and conservative agenda items were on the ballot this election, the Left won and the Right lost. For example, "personhood" amendments failed in every state they were on the ballot. Gun control measures passed, as did every minimum wage increase that was on state ballots.

Since Democratic turnout was low, the success of specific liberal ballot measures, and the failure of conservative ballot measures, strongly suggests that some "liberal" agenda items have a lot of crossover with moderates and those who consider themselves to be conservatives, and that some conservative agenda items overreach and turn off voters.

This is why it is a mistake to conclude that the voters gave some kind of mandate to the GOP.

In a topic about the minimum wage a while ago, I pointed out that increasing the minimum wage had a lot of crossover and that the GOP was on the losing side. This past election proved that.

THIS is something that the right might have to pay VERY close attention to. There are some issues that they simply need to leave by the wayside or they will weigh them down.

 

[Freemason9]

The GOP retains its power through heavily-gerrymandered congressional districts, and that corruption of the election process happened because of control of state-level professional politicians. It cannot be fixed. (When the authorities have all the tools, they make the rules.)

As the above poster points out - that stance completely ignores reality.

You cant gerrymander the senate and yet the right didn't just win there - the won huge.

How do you reconcile the astronomically unpopular ratings of the Republican Party with its success in elections?

This election was all about numbers . . . the Democratic Party stood for nothing, and only committed partisan Republicans (predictably) came to vote. About 20% of eligible voters put these people in office.

You just saw how skewed and inaccurate the polls were about the midterm elections. And you continue to believe polls that try to convince you how much Americans dislike the GOP?

Do you enjoy living in a fantasy world?

I don't know where you got your information, but it is wrong. Your "mainstream media" handed the midterms to Republicans months ago.

 

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The GOP retains its power through heavily-gerrymandered congressional districts, and that corruption of the election process happened because of control of state-level professional politicians. It cannot be fixed. (When the authorities have all the tools, they make the rules.)

As the above poster points out - that stance completely ignores reality.

You cant gerrymander the senate and yet the right didn't just win there - the won huge.

How do you reconcile the astronomically unpopular ratings of the Republican Party with its success in elections?

This election was all about numbers . . . the Democratic Party stood for nothing, and only committed partisan Republicans (predictably) came to vote. About 20% of eligible voters put these people in office.

Because those numbers have no real connection to reality. How do you reconcile the fact that congress has an approval rating that is damn near single digits yet most are able to retain their seat? Easy - blaming the amorphous 'republicans' or 'democrats' of 'congress' is an easy cop out that requires almost no thought. Those very same people are just fine with THEIR congressman.

Opinion polls about what someone thinks of a single issue or a party are utterly irrelevant. What matters is what happens when they go to the polls and actually put a candidate in. What they think of the people they can actually vote for rather than a 'party' that does not actually exist on the ballot.

That is correct.

People don't like congress....

But they seem pretty fond of their congressmen and congresswomen.

 

[Listening]

The GOP retains its power through heavily-gerrymandered congressional districts, and that corruption of the election process happened because of control of state-level professional politicians. It cannot be fixed. (When the authorities have all the tools, they make the rules.)

As the above poster points out - that stance completely ignores reality.

You cant gerrymander the senate and yet the right didn't just win there - the won huge.

How do you reconcile the astronomically unpopular ratings of the Republican Party with its success in elections?

This election was all about numbers . . . the Democratic Party stood for nothing, and only committed partisan Republicans (predictably) came to vote. About 20% of eligible voters put these people in office.

You just saw how skewed and inaccurate the polls were about the midterm elections. And you continue to believe polls that try to convince you how much Americans dislike the GOP?

Do you enjoy living in a fantasy world?

I don't know where you got your information, but it is wrong. Your "mainstream media" handed the midterms to Republicans months ago.

Hahahahahahahahaha

Oh, please....stop.....

My side hurts.