Goodbye Hydroxychloroquine. Hello disinfectant and sunlight

[Carl in Michigan]

his claims that he was being sarcastic, has he or anyone on his team of experts come out and told the public NOT to try to ingest or inject disinfectant?

It's funny that most of us know this without "experts" telling us not to drink bleach. Only the far left thinks it's a problem. Why do you think YOUR people are so damn stupid?

 

[OldLady]

Pence assures us we've got ALL the tests we need.

Ideally we need to test a person every day if he is going to be around others. This means millions and millions of tests but the capacity to produce that many does not exist and wont for some time.

Right now, our state would settle for enough tests to test the people who are symptomatic but not ill enough for the hospital. Because half our active cases are among healthcare workers, a lot of tests are being used for them, and for people in congregate care facilities where the Virus spreads like wildfire. We don't have enough for the general public.

the best hope is the Oxford Vaccine due in fall with luck

I
I wonder how testing's done with a killer virus like this. Do they give people the vaccine and then expose them to Covid 19? Who would volunteer for that, I wonder?

Not a who, but a what maybe ? Rats usually do well for testing and results there of.

I thought I read that they had rushed it through the normal "rat" testing and were beginning testing on humans because of the urgency of the situation. I might be wrong. Poor rats.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

It's obvious, but you figure that people aren't smart enough to see through it. Just so you know, it don't take to much smarts to see through it.

Well I think in their TDS state they believe it themselves, just like Russian collusion and Ukraine. When they say Trump said "chug bleach" they have convinced themselves he actually said or implied that. This is the way derangement works.

Much if it is natural stupidity but a lot of it is Trump's utter dismissal of them as fakers, as communists posing as journalists. But at the heart of it all is their communist agenda which won't sell in America; so the only hope they have a a vicious personal attack on Trump hoping they can paint him a evil, win the next election, and launch the Green New Deal Communist Revolution.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Why do you think YOUR people are so damn stupid?

stupid when it suits them but smart enough to vote meaningfully even if they are children, or prisoners or illiterates, or not bright enough to get an ID!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

It is a Democratic attempt to throw the 2020 election. Nothing more nothing less. Covid is a nothing burger but Democrats are using it as a propaganda tool.

yes exactly!!! Its savage Trump on a personal level like the rabid dogs they are or be positive about their Green New Deal Second Great Depression and Communist Revolution. What a choice!!

 

[BWK]

. You made claims about Biden.

yes he is a libcommie who supports Green New Deal Second Great Depression and Communist Revolution. And????????????

And you provided zero proof. That makes you a liar. When you come here to a political forum floating your own claims without backing them up, you've exposed yourself as a liar, a fake, and an ignoramus. No one is interested in wasting time with such people. There is only so much time in the day so as to waste it on unprepared, lying, unprepared trolls.

 

[BWK]

Trump didn't say drink bleach.......

No, he asked if they can inject disinfectant, or some other way....
He already talked about UV light. Then he switched to talking about disinfectants, which Bryan had also talked about--rubbing alcohol and bleach. It was not the reporter's fault that Trump asked that and suggested they look into it. The reporter was just the first of MANY not in the media but concerned about the idiots in the population to toll the warning bell about that concept.
Do not be this guy:
View attachment 328628

GO watch the dang video that BWK just posted.. If Trump did not START his brain fart qualifying his comments to BE about UV light and END them the same way -- I'll go get my head examined..

DEAL ?????

I watched the presser.

AND IF I HEAR "UV LIGHT" ONE MORE TIME, I'M STOPPING THIS CAR AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE SORRY!

How about watching it ONE MORE TIME courtesy of the lame brain BWK who just blew up your excuses -- instead of freaking out about UV light?? Take the bet.. If Trump did not START and END that brain fart by QUALIFYING it to be about UV LIGHT as a disenfectant -- I'll go get my head examined..

If he DID -- you don't have to thank me for starting to cure your TDS...

UV lights are not effective because they are not safe. What is it about stupid you folks don't get? Can you kill coronavirus with UV light?

Nothing is safe until testing and tinkering takes place. You don't know what can or can't be done until the testing of each scientific idea is done. Of course your hatred for Trump pushes you to make anti-anything conservative into lame excuses to justify your hatred of the conservative party, and especially the Christian side of the party along with Trump.

Introduction of disinfectants into the body is a scientific idea?

You keep that narrative running, as it should be embarassing for you to continue. Everyone except for a few (shockingly), is laughing at you. TDS is driving you insane.

Dude, grow TFU up with that TDS bull shit. It's so ******* lame.

What else could it be ?

Just watching as the world explodes politically, and why is it that we see this TDS taking place so much more these days than ever before, and especially during this crisis ? Is it really about covid-19 ?? I think it's more about severe TDS that is happening in response to Trump being president, and by use of the covid-19 the left is trying to show disdain for what they hate politically by blaming Trump constantly, otherwise some are looking at it as a new opportunistic diabolical plot to be run by the left for political reasons in order to get rid of Trump.

Well I would hope not, but when seeing you taking advantage of everything with your constant ranting and raging in order to bash Trump, the only conclusion is severe TDS.... It is in play more so than ever before, and it's being used while the crisis is taking place, and undoubtedly it's all in hopes to capitalize on the crisis for political reasons.

It's obvious, but you figure that people aren't smart enough to see through it. Just so you know, it don't take to much smarts to see through it.

It is a Democratic attempt to throw the 2020 election. Nothing more nothing less. Covid is a nothing burger but Democrats are using it as a propaganda tool.

So Trump's a liar then? Trump said it could go to 2.2 million deaths. Is that a nothing burger, because it looks to me that Trump is disagreeing with you?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Lol, 150 pages of Libtards sticking their fingers up their own asses and giggling about it like it was clever.

roflmao

 

[flacaltenn]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT ******* UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

For the FIFTH TIME NOW.. UV LIGHT IS A DISINFECTANT.. It was shown in the researcher's chart along side OTHER DISINFECTANTS... And that VID that BWK just posted with Trump's comment BEGINNING AND ENDING with references to UV LIGHT makes it CLEAR which disinfectant he was riffing on....

There is no known practical safe method to use with UV light, to effectively fight Coronavirus; Can you kill coronavirus with UV light?

You are frying the human being for Gods sake.

NO you mental midget...; Not STANDING IN IT -- but "injecting it" via a scope tube for a minute or two just like Trump suggested in the damn video that YOU POSTED !!!!!!

And that's EXACTLY what that company Ayla is researching and planning to take to clinical trials that been discussed for 15 pages now and you avoided it... INJECTING UV light into the trachea as a "disinfectant" for Covid 19....

Phuck the BBC and their ignorance of science and how you can AVOID frying someone from the OUTSIDE IN..... .

Trump has made a total imbecile out of you; Trump offered a confusing coronavirus theory. Conservative pundits explained it for him.

So you're ignoring all the evidence that UV IS one of highest effective "disinfectants" for COvid and that it CAN be used safely in public spaces and even MAYBE useful when "injected into the body" for Covid?? Do I have that correct? Because most of what I see here is the rambling and scrambling of a TRULY deranged partisan maniac who just does not WANT to hear anything about the ACTUAL science/tech of this issue....

 

[Faun]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT ******* UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

For the FIFTH TIME NOW.. UV LIGHT IS A DISINFECTANT.. It was shown in the researcher's chart along side OTHER DISINFECTANTS... And that VID that BWK just posted with Trump's comment BEGINNING AND ENDING with references to UV LIGHT makes it CLEAR which disinfectant he was riffing on....

The only "disinfectant" Bryan said kills the virus in a minute or less was -- isopropyl alcohol.

Hey moron.. U got 5 minutes to learn some science and what William Bryan ACTUALLY presented?
Start at about 5minutes. END at about 10 minutes..



Notice LYSOL was a media fabrication.. Notice also that DHS tested direct sunlight and found that that half life of Covid was REDUCED to 1.5 minutes under the effects of UV sunlight..

SOOOOO...,., Trump lept ahead of that presentation, probably because HIS info from DHS testing was more complete than the presentation to the idiots in the press room and asked Bryan to CONFIRM that UV light COULD be tested for "injections into the human body"... Trump STARTED that questioning and ENDED it --- SPECIFICALLY REFERRING to the "UV light" portion of Bryan's presentation.. If you DOUBT THAT -- refer to vid that your fellow TDS'er BWK provided and that I re-posted last night for Trump's FULL comments.

And NOW we find out that when Bryan said to the president "YES, there will be testing with UV light INSIDE the human body -- that there is company DEVELOPING and planning to TEST this concept in conjunction with Cedars Sinai research hospital...

That MIGHT be able to done completely safely because SCIENCE KNOWS what portion of the UV spectrum can safely be used to DISINFECT bacteria and viruses.. For SHORT exposures "in vivo", there is VERY LITTLE risk... (go look up in vivo or just call it "injecting")

Go to the Aytu company website for details on this proposed product for combatting Covid 19...

Healight Technology Platform - Aytu BioPharma

aytubio.com

While UVC light has broad germicidal properties, it is also harmful to mammalian (human) cells. Alternatively, UVA and UVB devices have been FDA-approved with indications to treat human diseases including skin lymphoma, eczema, and psoriasis. Of the three spectrums, UVA light appears to cause the least damage to mammalian cells. Recent advances in light emitting diodes (LEDs) have made it much more feasible to manufacture and apply narrow band (NB) UVA light to internal organs.

Proof of Concept

An abstract led by the team at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center was published in the United European Gastroenterology Journal, October 2019, titled “Internally Applied Ultraviolet Light as a Novel Approach for Effective and Safe Anti-Microbial Treatment.” Here, the authors show that UVA light exhibits significant in vitro bactericidal effects in an array of clinically important bacteria. Additionally, this is the first study using intracolonic UVA application, which reports that UVA exposure is not associated with endoscopic or histologic injury. These findings suggest that UVA therapy can potentially provide a safe and effective novel approach to antimicrobial treatment via phototherapy on internal organs.

If ya dont read this and STILL are just pushing falsehoods about this whole tempest in a teacup, you're TOO FAR GONE to have an intelligent discussion, and I wish you well in ignorant bliss.





THAT'S the news and science.. Everything else is juvenile made up horse shit..

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, you posted all that just to repeat what I said....

The only "disinfectant" Bryan said kills the virus in a minute or less was -- isopropyl alcohol."​

Now try and learn.

 

[Faun]

Trump didn't say drink bleach.......

No, he asked if they can inject disinfectant, or some other way....
He already talked about UV light. Then he switched to talking about disinfectants, which Bryan had also talked about--rubbing alcohol and bleach. It was not the reporter's fault that Trump asked that and suggested they look into it. The reporter was just the first of MANY not in the media but concerned about the idiots in the population to toll the warning bell about that concept.
Do not be this guy:
View attachment 328628

GO watch the dang video that BWK just posted.. If Trump did not START his brain fart qualifying his comments to BE about UV light and END them the same way -- I'll go get my head examined..

DEAL ?????

I watched the presser.

AND IF I HEAR "UV LIGHT" ONE MORE TIME, I'M STOPPING THIS CAR AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE SORRY!

How about watching it ONE MORE TIME courtesy of the lame brain BWK who just blew up your excuses -- instead of freaking out about UV light?? Take the bet.. If Trump did not START and END that brain fart by QUALIFYING it to be about UV LIGHT as a disenfectant -- I'll go get my head examined..

If he DID -- you don't have to thank me for starting to cure your TDS...

UV lights are not effective because they are not safe. What is it about stupid you folks don't get? Can you kill coronavirus with UV light?

Nothing is safe until testing and tinkering takes place. You don't know what can or can't be done until the testing of each scientific idea is done. Of course your hatred for Trump pushes you to make anti-anything conservative into lame excuses to justify your hatred of the conservative party, and especially the Christian side of the party along with Trump.

Introduction of disinfectants into the body is a scientific idea?

You keep that narrative running, as it should be embarassing for you to continue. Everyone except for a few (shockingly), is laughing at you. TDS is driving you insane.

Dude, grow TFU up with that TDS bull shit. It's so ******* lame.

They have nothing else.

 

[TemplarKormac]

. You made claims about Biden.

yes he is a libcommie who supports Green New Deal Second Great Depression and Communist Revolution. And????????????

And you provided zero proof. That makes you a liar. When you come here to a political forum floating your own claims without backing them up, you've exposed yourself as a liar, a fake, and an ignoramus. No one is interested in wasting time with such people. There is only so much time in the day so as to waste it on unprepared, lying, unprepared trolls.

Did I not demonstrate that with you? Oh, and Laura Ingraham cited one of the studies I posted in this thread. You know, the one where Dr. Didier Raoult tested 1061 patients with HCL and Azithromycin?

Your arguments are, therefore, once and for all, invalid.

 

[Leo123]

Trump didn't say drink bleach.......

No, he asked if they can inject disinfectant, or some other way....
He already talked about UV light. Then he switched to talking about disinfectants, which Bryan had also talked about--rubbing alcohol and bleach. It was not the reporter's fault that Trump asked that and suggested they look into it. The reporter was just the first of MANY not in the media but concerned about the idiots in the population to toll the warning bell about that concept.
Do not be this guy:
View attachment 328628

GO watch the dang video that BWK just posted.. If Trump did not START his brain fart qualifying his comments to BE about UV light and END them the same way -- I'll go get my head examined..

DEAL ?????

I watched the presser.

AND IF I HEAR "UV LIGHT" ONE MORE TIME, I'M STOPPING THIS CAR AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE SORRY!

How about watching it ONE MORE TIME courtesy of the lame brain BWK who just blew up your excuses -- instead of freaking out about UV light?? Take the bet.. If Trump did not START and END that brain fart by QUALIFYING it to be about UV LIGHT as a disenfectant -- I'll go get my head examined..

If he DID -- you don't have to thank me for starting to cure your TDS...

UV lights are not effective because they are not safe. What is it about stupid you folks don't get? Can you kill coronavirus with UV light?

Nothing is safe until testing and tinkering takes place. You don't know what can or can't be done until the testing of each scientific idea is done. Of course your hatred for Trump pushes you to make anti-anything conservative into lame excuses to justify your hatred of the conservative party, and especially the Christian side of the party along with Trump.

Introduction of disinfectants into the body is a scientific idea?

You keep that narrative running, as it should be embarassing for you to continue. Everyone except for a few (shockingly), is laughing at you. TDS is driving you insane.

Dude, grow TFU up with that TDS bull shit. It's so ******* lame.

What else could it be ?

Just watching as the world explodes politically, and why is it that we see this TDS taking place so much more these days than ever before, and especially during this crisis ? Is it really about covid-19 ?? I think it's more about severe TDS that is happening in response to Trump being president, and by use of the covid-19 the left is trying to show disdain for what they hate politically by blaming Trump constantly, otherwise some are looking at it as a new opportunistic diabolical plot to be run by the left for political reasons in order to get rid of Trump.

Well I would hope not, but when seeing you taking advantage of everything with your constant ranting and raging in order to bash Trump, the only conclusion is severe TDS.... It is in play more so than ever before, and it's being used while the crisis is taking place, and undoubtedly it's all in hopes to capitalize on the crisis for political reasons.

It's obvious, but you figure that people aren't smart enough to see through it. Just so you know, it don't take to much smarts to see through it.

It is a Democratic attempt to throw the 2020 election. Nothing more nothing less. Covid is a nothing burger but Democrats are using it as a propaganda tool.

So Trump's a liar then? Trump said it could go to 2.2 million deaths. Is that a nothing burger, because it looks to me that Trump is disagreeing with you?

So what? Fauci lied like a good little Omama leftover.

 

[flacaltenn]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT ******* UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

For the FIFTH TIME NOW.. UV LIGHT IS A DISINFECTANT.. It was shown in the researcher's chart along side OTHER DISINFECTANTS... And that VID that BWK just posted with Trump's comment BEGINNING AND ENDING with references to UV LIGHT makes it CLEAR which disinfectant he was riffing on....

The only "disinfectant" Bryan said kills the virus in a minute or less was -- isopropyl alcohol.

Hey moron.. U got 5 minutes to learn some science and what William Bryan ACTUALLY presented?
Start at about 5minutes. END at about 10 minutes..



Notice LYSOL was a media fabrication.. Notice also that DHS tested direct sunlight and found that that half life of Covid was REDUCED to 1.5 minutes under the effects of UV sunlight..

SOOOOO...,., Trump lept ahead of that presentation, probably because HIS info from DHS testing was more complete than the presentation to the idiots in the press room and asked Bryan to CONFIRM that UV light COULD be tested for "injections into the human body"... Trump STARTED that questioning and ENDED it --- SPECIFICALLY REFERRING to the "UV light" portion of Bryan's presentation.. If you DOUBT THAT -- refer to vid that your fellow TDS'er BWK provided and that I re-posted last night for Trump's FULL comments.

And NOW we find out that when Bryan said to the president "YES, there will be testing with UV light INSIDE the human body -- that there is company DEVELOPING and planning to TEST this concept in conjunction with Cedars Sinai research hospital...

That MIGHT be able to done completely safely because SCIENCE KNOWS what portion of the UV spectrum can safely be used to DISINFECT bacteria and viruses.. For SHORT exposures "in vivo", there is VERY LITTLE risk... (go look up in vivo or just call it "injecting")

Go to the Aytu company website for details on this proposed product for combatting Covid 19...

Healight Technology Platform - Aytu BioPharma

aytubio.com

While UVC light has broad germicidal properties, it is also harmful to mammalian (human) cells. Alternatively, UVA and UVB devices have been FDA-approved with indications to treat human diseases including skin lymphoma, eczema, and psoriasis. Of the three spectrums, UVA light appears to cause the least damage to mammalian cells. Recent advances in light emitting diodes (LEDs) have made it much more feasible to manufacture and apply narrow band (NB) UVA light to internal organs.

Proof of Concept

An abstract led by the team at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center was published in the United European Gastroenterology Journal, October 2019, titled “Internally Applied Ultraviolet Light as a Novel Approach for Effective and Safe Anti-Microbial Treatment.” Here, the authors show that UVA light exhibits significant in vitro bactericidal effects in an array of clinically important bacteria. Additionally, this is the first study using intracolonic UVA application, which reports that UVA exposure is not associated with endoscopic or histologic injury. These findings suggest that UVA therapy can potentially provide a safe and effective novel approach to antimicrobial treatment via phototherapy on internal organs.

If ya dont read this and STILL are just pushing falsehoods about this whole tempest in a teacup, you're TOO FAR GONE to have an intelligent discussion, and I wish you well in ignorant bliss.





THAT'S the news and science.. Everything else is juvenile made up horse shit..

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, you posted all that just to repeat what I said....

The only "disinfectant" Bryan said kills the virus in a minute or less was -- isopropyl alcohol."​

Now try and learn.

I see no real tactical deployment diff between a minute and 1.5 minutes. And you left out the part that was IMPORTANT to last 10 pages or so. Implying just UV was ineffective.. That's called "selection bias"..,. Very UNscientific to lie by omission in ANY situation...

 

[lennypartiv]

Trump has done so much damage to this country, we don't have the capacity to wrap our arms around it. It's just too much.

Huh? Trump is saving American lives by building a border wall. You libs never give Trump credit for anything.

 

[WEATHER53]

Cures come out for things the original effort was not working on

 

[flacaltenn]

Besides sunlight UV is composed of UVA, UVB, UVC... If you put ALL the UV energy into a very narrow "safer" wavelength -- it is VERY likely to kill Covid quicker than sunlight.. The DHS study Bryan presented did not GO that far.. But manufacturers of UV disinfecting machinery already know how to do that...

 

[TemplarKormac]

The only "disinfectant" Bryan said kills the virus in a minute or less was -- isopropyl alcohol.

So let's use it. Let's find pour it inside the body to kill the virus.

Great, you should contact the administration and tell them you'd like to volunteer for such experiments.

There is a mayor in Las Vegas who is willing to volunteer residents for experiments

She volunteered others, but NOT herself. These Cons are more than willing to let others die, but when comes to their shit on the line they run in the opposite direction!

Money is more valuable than human life

Trump has done so much damage to this country, we don't have the capacity to wrap our arms around it. It's just too much.

Can you be more specific? What damage are we talking about here?

 

[WEATHER53]

It's obvious, but you figure that people aren't smart enough to see through it. Just so you know, it don't take to much smarts to see through it.

Well I think in their TDS state they believe it themselves, just like Russian collusion and Ukraine. When they say Trump said "chug bleach" they have convinced themselves he actually said or implied that. This is the way derangement works.

Much if it is natural stupidity but a lot of it is Trump's utter dismissal of them as fakers, as communists posing as journalists. But at the heart of it all is their communist agenda which won't sell in America; so the only hope they have a a vicious personal attack on Trump hoping they can paint him a evil, win the next election, and launch the Green New Deal Communist Revolution.

First paragraph indicates a grave condition.

 

[Mac-7]

Some room temperature knuckle dragger had the idea to post the thousands of people who die every year from smoking and/or smoking related illness.

Here is the difference you idiot.

IF you are so stupid enough as to smoke, you know the dangers and accept them. It is YOU who decides to smoke.

There is conscience decision to contract COVID-19.

You Smoke. You Die. Your Choice.

You smoke around your house, especially with children in that house, you are deciding for them the consequences of YOU chose to do. Second hand smoke kills and it is YOU doing the killing.

COVID-19 crosses age, gender, religious, ethnic and social boundaries. No one is making the decision to DIE of COVID-19.

By the end of next week more people will have died of COVID-19 than died in the Viet Nam War.

Smokers DIE knowing the risks.

God you people have the IQ of dried up dog turd sitting on Mississippi Sidewalk at High Noon July.

You sir are correct!

The Vietnam Conflict Extract Data File of the Defense Casualty Analysis System (DCAS) Extract Files contains records of 58,220 U.S. military fatal casualties of the Vietnam War. These records were transferred into the custody of the National Archives and Records Administration in 2008.

Trying to figure out whether to call this Donald's Katrina or Donald's Vietnam. Either fits, but Vietnam is more accurate.

Dream on

Deny all you must Mac, but there IS no question that the lost month of February, continued dithering on federalizing testing, PPE, vents etc combined with horrible mixed messaging on a reopening strategy, blaming the media and governors while taking "no responsibility" and failing to fully engage the Defense Production Act cost us thousands of lives.

We all worried about how this president would perform in a national emergency. Now we know. Your Donnie isn't a leader. Sad

There were no reliable tests in feburary

if there were you can bet that fauci would have used them

indeed the first test the medical pros offered was no good

Nonsense, the WHO tests which we declined to request a few hundred thousand of worked fine for other countries. We could have had those in JANUARY.

Face it - Donnie Dithered/ Donnie Lied/ Markets Crashed/ People DIED

The cdc claimed to have its own test kits - probably hoping to prove they had been doing something useful since the last chinese disease

but the kits did not work and the government doctors/scientists had to start over

which they successfully did eventually

I really don't the blame CDC. The responsibility for the lack any early response rest with the president. In the first week of January, Trump got a security briefing which emphasized the seriousness of the epidemic in China and dangers to the US. The fact that the usual US security contacts in China had gone totally dark and Xi Jinping had taken charge of managing the issue was almost unprecedented. Yet Trump was not impressed. In the coming weeks he refer the the virus as the flu. He had no scheduled meetings with his CDC director. It wasn't until the first known case of Covid 19 in the US on Jan 21st did Trump have any real concerned. He issued and order to stop travel from China but it was written in such a way that it allowed people carrying the virus to still enter the US. On Jan 27th he formed a Pandemic Response Team. The makeup of that team was a good clue to what Trump thought about this pandemic. There were 12 members of the team and only one had any experience in dealing with an epidemic, Dr. Fauci. Trump did not attend most of the meetings. All the other members of the team were Trump appointments, bureaucrats and politician who were mostly interested in determining who would be responsible for whatever might be needed. They had no planning documents and no idea how to proceed. The last pandemic planning document was dated 2005 and was update in 2010. The original pandemic response team was disbanded by Trump in 2018. The CDC moved as you would expect any organization would when the boss considered the whole issue a democratic hoax, just the common flu.

So you expect him to close down the country before even one person has died?

That would have been pretty crazy