Goodbye CDC, Goodbye Country

[Oddball]

The planet disagrees with you.

Since when do you speak for the planet?

 

[Oddball]

 

[martybegan]

Since when do you speak for the planet?

Typical dems claiming agency over entire groups and now even a ******* planet.

 

[Hollie]

Youre all medical geniuses when it comes to others. But when your life is on the line, you straighten up and follow the experts. lol. Your belief system is built on sand and sinks when it matters.

I was among the many who consulted with my expert doctor who advised against the clot shot considering my good health and lifestyle.

Have you gotten your dozen or so clot shots and a similar number of boosters like a good mindless automaton?

 

[Marener]

I've never demanded perfection, I've complained when they do stuff I disagree with, and have done so in detail.

Please show where I demand perfection. As usual you just make stuff up.

You demand the CDC provide perfect information about a brand new infection and an unprecedented pandemic.

When they didn’t, you said they caused people to lose trust in government.

 

[Oddball]

Youre all medical geniuses when it comes to others. But when your life is on the line, you straighten up and follow the experts. lol. Your belief system is built on sand and sinks when it matters.

My life was allegedly on the line, when you dictatorial shitheels were forcing your gene altering juice into people's arms...I refused and have never felt better.

So suck on it.

 

[MisterBeale]

That ship sailed in the 1960s, at least.

The FDA is easily the biggest protection racket in human history.

I posted that mostly, b/c we have a lot of folks that really do honestly believe RFKjr. is "anti-vaccine." That is how pervasive the establishment propaganda has been.

Folks defending this corrupt corporatism, and ridiculing folks smart enough to identify that corruption as "anti-science," and "anti-modernity," come off as completely uneducated propagandized fools.

There was a time when Dr. Redfield was respected by even them. . . so, its just one last ditch effort to rouse them from their induced programming.

It is one thing to make the claim that they argue with fallacies, but if there is not fact based response available, I can't blame them for their ignorance.

 

[martybegan]

You demand the CDC provide perfect information about a brand new infection and an unprecedented pandemic.

When they didn’t, you said they caused people to lose trust in government.

I already said I understand the actions they took when they thought the mortality rate for healthy people was far higher.

I've complained about them both taking too long to change track and then pretending years later that they didn't castigate people who questioned them.

The big one was shutting down everything, then being mute when Progressives went out to protest in mass during the Floyd riots.

Then pretending the shot prevented transmission while overselling the efficacy of surgical masks and distancing.

 

[MisterBeale]

You demand the CDC provide perfect information about a brand new infection and an unprecedented pandemic.

Nope, just an honest and open debate.

I posted an interview with Dr. Redfeld who was in the thick of it, and as he told us, that wasn't done.

That isn't how you do science, but it is how you do authoritarianism.

 

[citygator]

I was among the many who consulted with my expert doctor who advised against the clot shot considering my good health and lifestyle.

Have you gotten your dozen or so clot shots and a similar number of boosters like a good mindless automaton?

derp derp derp. Sure you did.

The less educated your "medical professional" the more likely they were to be magats. Here is an extensive study showing that doctors had sky high vaccination rates and those with little medical training were more likely to be magats (PA's and Nurses) and were not vaccinated.

Changes in vaccine attitudes and recommendations among US Healthcare Personnel during the COVID-19 pandemic - PMC

A recommendation from healthcare personnel (HCP) is a strong predictor of vaccination. This study aimed to measure how HCP vaccine attitudes and recommendations changed during the COVID-19 pandemic. HCP were surveyed in January 2023 using a double ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

We previously conducted a cross-sectional survey of HCP in September 2021, in which 94% of HCP had received (or intended to soon receive) a COVID-19 vaccine. Pediatricians had the highest vaccine coverage (98%), while family medicine doctors (96%) and pharmacists (94%) were close behind. In contrast, only 88% of physician assistants (PAs), nurse practitioners (NPs), and nurses were vaccinated against COVID-19.

 

[Hollie]

derp derp derp. Sure you did.

The less educated your "medical professional" the more likely they were to be magats. Here is an extensive study showing that doctors had sky high vaccination rates and those with little medical training were more likely to be magats (PA's and Nurses) and were not vaccinated.

Changes in vaccine attitudes and recommendations among US Healthcare Personnel during the COVID-19 pandemic - PMC

A recommendation from healthcare personnel (HCP) is a strong predictor of vaccination. This study aimed to measure how HCP vaccine attitudes and recommendations changed during the COVID-19 pandemic. HCP were surveyed in January 2023 using a double ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

We previously conducted a cross-sectional survey of HCP in September 2021, in which 94% of HCP had received (or intended to soon receive) a COVID-19 vaccine. Pediatricians had the highest vaccine coverage (98%), while family medicine doctors (96%) and pharmacists (94%) were close behind. In contrast, only 88% of physician assistants (PAs), nurse practitioners (NPs), and nurses were vaccinated against COVID-19.

You FAGATs were literally led to the slaughter by your heroes Fauci, "I am the science" and leftist clowns like Rachel Maddow.

I'll take my medical advise from my trusted doctor as opposed to a FAGAt message board, Rachel Maddow groupie.

 

[citygator]

You FAGATs were literally led to the slaughter by your heroes Fauci, "I am the science" and leftist clowns like Rachel Maddow.

I'll take my medical advise from my trusted doctor as opposed to a FAGAt message board, Rachel Maddow groupie.

How do you explain the vaccination levels among doctors I linked? Are they uneducated sheeple and the real geniuses are those of you who arent doctors?

 

[SweetSue92]

You are as regressive and anti-science as anyone here.

You're in good company on this thread, for sure.

Oh. Is jumping on whatever the authorities tell you "following the science"? Has science never failed us?

 

[buttercup]

Nope. There isnt a maga megaphone in the ER telling you the doctors are liberals trying to fool you. But when you get out on your own you start listening to the maga megaphones and not the experts. Its that simple. Sorry.

I noticed that in nearly all your posts you try to portray opposition to the Covid lies as a strictly MAGA thing. That's either ignorant or dishonest. There are plenty of us who never got on the Trump train who saw through the Covid scam from the beginning.

There were tons of things that didn't add up. And our initial gut feeling was confirmed time and time again later as the facts came out. I know why you're portraying it that way....it's a dishonest way to try to "win" a debate.

 

[Hollie]

How do you explain the vaccination levels among doctors I linked? Are they uneducated sheeple and the real geniuses are those of you who arent doctors?

I attribute threats of job loss to the "vaccination" levels among doctors.

Why did you take medical advise from Rachel Maddow?

 

[Marener]

I already said I understand the actions they took when they thought the mortality rate for healthy people was far higher.

I've complained about them both taking too long to change track and then pretending years later that they didn't castigate people who questioned them.

The big one was shutting down everything, then being mute when Progressives went out to protest in mass during the Floyd riots.

Then pretending the shot prevented transmission while overselling the efficacy of surgical masks and distancing.

Your complaints aren't about lying, it's just about difference of opinions.

RFK Jr is straight up lying about all kinds of shit and you're fine with it.

 

[citygator]

I noticed that in nearly all your posts you try to portray opposition to the Covid lies as a strictly MAGA thing. That's either ignorant or dishonest. There are plenty of us who never got on the Trump train who saw through the Covid scam from the beginning.

There were tons of things that didn't add up. And our initial gut feeling was confirmed time and time again later as the facts came out. I know why you're portraying it that way....it's a dishonest way to try to "win" a debate.

Look. Again, I doubt you are a medical doctor so listening to your gut is probably unwise. When 94% of doctors tell you something and 6% are whackjobs RFK cites.... why would you go with the whackjobs?


Secondly, you and I havent met on here before but a quick perusal of your postings say:

• Religious anti-abortion acolyte
• Xenophobic anti-immigrant rhetoric
• Trump defender even against Pedo charges

How exactly are you not MAGA? Maybe you dont like red hats?

 

[Marener]

Nope, just an honest and open debate.

I posted an interview with Dr. Redfeld who was in the thick of it, and as he told us, that wasn't done.

That isn't how you do science, but it is how you do authoritarianism.

Meanwhile RFK Jr is removing anyone from the CDC that disagrees with him.

We don't really think you guys want open and honest debate.

 

[Blisterfinger]

You're hysterical, just another uneducated irrelevant little conspiracy fantasist, probably a grimy little incel as well.

So Bill Gates is going to be charged with genocide now?

You ******* dipshit.

The decline of the CDC began with the quack fouchie. Trump is just cleaning it up.

 

[buttercup]

Look. Again, I doubt you are a medical doctor so listening to your gut is probably unwise. When 94% of doctors tell you something and 6% are whackjobs RFK cites.... why would you go with the whackjobs?


Secondly, you and I havent met on here before but a quick perusal of your postings say:

• Religious anti-abortion acolyte
• Xenophobic anti-immigrant rhetoric
• Trump defender even against Pedo charges

How exactly are you not MAGA? Maybe you dont like red hats?

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WTH??? That is a flat out lie! (The 2nd and 3rd bullet points, especially the third one.)

You completely misunderstood that post to Rambunctious. I was going to spell it out for you here, but I don't want to get dragged into an off topic discussion about you cherry-picking an obscure post of mine and totally misunderstanding it. In regard to Trump I have done the exact opposite of your claim. I have been wanting truth and accountability and I have been repeatedly trying to get the MAGA folk to see that their trust in him is misplaced.

As for what you said about Covid, when your job depends on going along with everyone else, of course many doctors are going to do just that. There were also plenty of doctors who spoke out against it and exposed it.