Going vegan to save the planet

[Captain Caveman]

Remember to take your daily vitamin C SUPPLEMENT on your carnivore diet

What fruit, veg, or nut do you eat to get eicosapentaenoic acid?

Obviously the lack of certain nutrients makes vegans the assholes that they are.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Hilariously false, and ignorant. I've been vegan for almost 9 years, and I'm WAY healthier now than I was in my pre-vegan days. And every time I've gotten my bloodwork done, it always comes back near perfect. And there are tons of people just like me, including people who actually reversed disease by radically changing their diet to a whole foods plantbased diet.

But you don't have to take my word for it.



Position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics

It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity.


The Mayo Clinic

A well-planned vegetarian diet can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women. The key is to be aware of your nutritional needs so that you plan a diet that meets them.


Harvard Medical School

Traditionally, research into vegetarianism focused mainly on potential nutritional deficiencies, but in recent years, the pendulum has swung the other way, and studies are confirming the health benefits of meat-free eating. Nowadays, plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses.


Dietitians of Canada

A healthy vegan diet can meet all your nutrient needs at any stage of life including when you are pregnant, breastfeeding or for older adults.


British Dietetic Association

Well planned vegetarian diets (see context) can be nutritious and healthy. They are associated with lower risks of heart disease, high blood pressure, Type 2 diabetes, obesity, certain cancers and lower cholesterol levels. This could be because such diets are lower in saturated fat, contain fewer calories and more fiber and phytonutrients/phytochemicals (these can have protective properties) than non-vegetarian diets. (...) Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of life and have many benefits.


The British National Health Service

With good planning and an understanding of what makes up a healthy, balanced vegan diet, you can get all the nutrients your body needs.


The Dietitians Association of Australia

Vegan diets differ to other vegetarian diets in that no animal products are consumed or used. Despite these restrictions, with good planning it is still possible to obtain all the nutrients required for good health on a vegan diet.

What a pile of shite and ignorant in equal measure.

 

[buttercup]

What a pile of shite and ignorant in equal measure.

So I'm lying? And all those Dietetic associations and medical schools are lying?

You are not only ignorant, but extremely arrogant and crazy, if that's what you think. I would put my bloodwork results up against yours any day. And if you eat the way you sound like you do, I'll probably outlive you by a couple decades.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Carl in Michigan explain a vegan diet plan if the person suffers from diverticulosis, which is quite common.

 

[Captain Caveman]

So I'm lying?

Yes, and full of bovine excrement.

See post #44, what would you eat?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You started the NOTHING, clown !!!!

What fruit, veg, or nut do you eat to get docosahexaenoic acid?

Seeds and nuts. I eat a LOT. I also eat many other sources of ALA

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For instance, ALA from plant seeds can be converted in the body to all the other types of omega-3 fats: EPA, SDA, DHA, DPA.

However, this conversion is quite inefficientTrusted Source, with rates of less than 3% of ALA being converted to DHA or EPA in males and less than 10% in females — warranting adequate dietary intakes of DHA and EPA

 

[skye]

Then I will not be able to save the planet because I'm not vegan

I eat chicken and fish and seafood...that's plenty in a diet

Only thing I don't eat is red meat ..... our four legged animal friends.

I don't eat them.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Only thing I don't eat is red meat ..... our four legged animal friends.

I don't eat them

That's how it starts. I don't eat meat as a moral issue, not to "save the planet" which is pure nonsense. I'm glad you've given up eating mammals though.

 

[buttercup]

Yes, and full of bovine excrement.

See post #44, what would you eat?

WOW. How utterly arrogant. Why should I even converse with you if you think I'm lying? And why would I lie anyway?? You're being paranoid and the very definition of unreasonable.

 

[skye]

That's how it starts. I don't eat meat as a moral issue, not to "save the planet" which is pure nonsense. I'm glad you've given up eating mammals though.

Don't eat mammals but I eat all the rest.

I eat a lot of chicken in different dishes .....and fish you can not imagine! Love it!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Don't eat mammals but I eat all the rest.

I eat a lot of chicken in different dishes .....and fish you can not imagine! Love it!

If you look into it you'll see that fish has a LOT of problems. If you're going to eat that, everyone advises greatly limiting your consumption. If it was good for you they wouldn't advise that

 

[skye]

If you look into it you'll see that fish has a LOT of problems. If you're going to eat that, everyone advises greatly limiting your consumption. If it was good for you they wouldn't advise that

I love salmon.

Grilled salmon with tartar sauce or mustard sauce.....I don't see myself ever stopping...Love!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I love salmon.

Grilled salmon with tartar sauce or mustard sauce.....I don't see myself ever stopping...Love!

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Fish and chicken and turkey were the last things I gave up. I prided myself on eating "low on the food chain." Then I learned other things. Now I don't miss any of that.

 

[Captain Caveman]

WOW. How utterly arrogant. Why should I even converse with you if you think I'm lying? And why would I lie anyway?? You're being paranoid and the very definition of unreasonable.

The girlfriend and I use Costa Coffee in the UK, Starbucks is not so good. I used to enjoy the small Lemon Tarts but I stopped buying them a few months ago because the pastry went tasteless and crap, and the Lemon filling wasn't much better. Bells in Lazonby make Costa's products. I asked a guy I know that works there and he said they now use a certain pastry, it's vegan friendly. He did tell me the name given to the pastry but I can't remember, so I will have to ask him again. So even a blind taste test, vegan is shite.

Same with the premade pastry from supermarkets. I thought this is shite, studied the box and yup, suitable for vegans. So I make my own.

I bought a Hoisin Duck wrap, bit into it, stopped, then spat it out. I accidentally picked up and bought vegan crap. Straight into the bin, minging. How you lot eat that shite is beyond belief. By law, a warning message should flag up on the till saying, "WARNING - this product is vegan, do you still want it?". So now, I study everything so I don't waste my money again.

If you want to live off nuts, then stfu and get on with it. You stick to Almonds and vegetable oil, I'll stick to rib eye and butter.

 

[Captain Caveman]

If you look into it you'll see that fish has a LOT of problems. If you're going to eat that, everyone advises greatly limiting your consumption. If it was good for you they wouldn't advise that

Sea Bream with garlic, cumin seeds, and lemon juice is damn nice. Smoked Salmon is damn nice too, all the lovely Omega 3 fatty acids, especially on Eggs Royale. Imagine trying to make that with flaxseeds, walnuts, and kidney beans

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I bought a Hoisin Duck wrap, bit into it, stopped, then spat it out. I accidentally picked up and bought vegan crap

I don't even know what that is.

To pacify you kooks I guess I'll stop using your trigger words like "vegan." I eat a mostly whole foods plant based diet. No refined, processed foods. Does that make it easier for your sensitive intolerant brain?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Sea Bream with garlic, cumin seeds, and lemon juice is damn nice. Smoked Salmon is damn nice too, all the lovely Omega 3 fatty acids, especially on Eggs Royale. Imagine trying to make that with flaxseeds, walnuts, and kidney beans

Honestly don't care. Really I don't.
Here's the thing
You display your contempt for people who don't eat meat. Then whine and bitch and moan if anyone does the same to you. And idiots like roadrunner aka safe space April generate thread after thread whining to the mods for her safe space where nobody is "allowed" a different opinion.

Is it something about eating cadavers that make you so sensitive and intolerant?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

If you want to live off nuts, then stfu and get on with it. You stick to Almonds and vegetable oil, I'll stick to rib eye and butter.

Follow your own advice. It's you who can't seem to move on.

I understand you people don't have Freedom of Speech over there, but you're on an AMERICAN messageboard. It's best you remember YOU'RE the guest

 

[Captain Caveman]

I don't even know what that is.

To pacify you kooks I guess I'll stop using your trigger words like "vegan." I eat a mostly whole foods plant based diet. No refined, processed foods. Does that make it easier for your sensitive intolerant brain?

Hoisin sauce is a Chinese sauce to glaze meat. So it's duck meat, hoisin sauce, salad, in a flat bread wrap. The sauce was tasteless and the pretend duck was like soft tasteless turd. Took a bite, I thought, "Something's wrong", spat it out and studied the packaging. Then made use of the bin.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Follow your own advice. It's you who can't seem to move on.

I understand you people don't have Freedom of Speech over there, but you're on an AMERICAN messageboard. It's best you remember YOU'RE the guest

In the UK and Europe, it's called freedom of expression. article 10 of the Human Rights Act. So the difference between the US and UK, we take more responsibility to what we say, Yanks just blurt out any old baseless shit. But that takes brains, hence why it's dumbed down in Yank land.