G'ment Has Shut Down The G'ment!!!

[Blaster]

Naive and foolish, to the hilt!

I can dream.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I thought Trump had done that already with DOGE. Are you saying DOGE was just a scam?

 

[schmidlap]

More than 1.4 million illegal immigrants — including cold-blooded criminals, like those arrested this weekend in Los Angeles — are currently on Medicaid, stealing taxpayer-funded health care benefits meant for American citizens.

In fact, undocumented immigrants, who have a lower crime rate than American citizens, are generally ineligible for most federal public benefits, but there are some exceptions for emergency services and certain state programs.

Federal​

Under federal law, particularly the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA), undocumented immigrants are largely barred from accessing most federal public benefits.

This includes programs such as:

• Social Security retirement and disability benefits
• Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)
• Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)
• Non-emergency Medicaid

... and despite the hateful lies of a convicted felon, Black immigrants are not eating pet cats and dogs in Ohio.

 

[Care4all]

The enhanced subsidies orginally passed in 2021(ARPA) in response to COVID were set to expire in 2022, but they were extended to 2025 by the Inflation Reduction Act. They will expire this year. How is ending these enhanced subsidies going to end Obamacare? Was it not working prior to 2021? If not, why? Keep in mind, the enhancements were in response to COVID. That is over.

The subsidies are what funds the help for people to be able to afford the insurance.

Right now, Obamacare makes the poor and middle class people without healthcare offered by their employers, pay for health insurance up to 10% of their monthly income, including all family income...and the subsidies for these lower income families pay the rest of the bill, the remaining 90%.

When the subsides stop, these people can not afford to pay 100% of their family income on Insurance premiums.

That ends Obamacare.

 

[SweetTea]

The subsidies are what funds the help for people to be able to afford the insurance.

Right now, Obamacare makes the poor people without healthcare offered by their employers, pay for health insurance up to 10% of their monthly income, including all family income...and the subsidies for these lower income families pay the rest of the bill, the remaining 90%.

When the subsides stop, these people can not afford to pay 100% of their family income on Insurance premiums.

That ends Obamacare.

As I said, the subsidies are not ending. The enchancdd subsidies that were in response to the COVID pandemic are ending. What did these people do prior to COVID? What has actually happened is that they have gotten used to the additional handouts and now they are complaining that they can’t pay the bills.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[80zephyr]

AI Overview

During a government shutdown, air traffic controllers, who are considered "essential" employees, must continue to work but will not be paid until the shutdown ends
. A federal law passed in 2019 guarantees that these employees will receive back pay once government funding is restored

 

[Care4all]

As I said, the subsidies are not ending. The enchancdd subsidies that were in response to the COVID pandemic are ending. What did these people do prior to COVID? What has actually happened is that they have gotten used to the additional handouts and now they are complaining that they can’t pay the bills.

The bill to extend and fund ALL subsides is up for a vote in another month or so. That is what Democrats want an agreement on....?

Let me search and see what I can find out about what you said on the Covid extension and what that actually is about... I need to be a tad more informed before responding... I could be viewing this wrongly...

 

[schmidlap]

Maxine Waters had a golden opportunity to set the record straight on whether this was about Democrats were holding out for illegals to get healthcare. She said it was for EVERYBODY to get healthcare. “Everybody” includes illegals.

Touchy Maxine Waters Admits the Schumer Shutdown Is About Giving Healthcare to Illegal Immigrants

Maxine Waters confronts the Schumer shutdown over healthcare for illegal immigrants.

townhall.com

Your source is incorrect. Illegals are not eligible for either Medicaid or ACA premium subsidies, nor would they be if Republicans restored their cuts to those programs that Democrats support.

 

[Blaster]

The subsidies are what funds the help for people to be able to afford the insurance.

Right now, Obamacare makes the poor and middle class people without healthcare offered by their employers, pay for health insurance up to 10% of their monthly income, including all family income...and the subsidies for these lower income families pay the rest of the bill, the remaining 90%.

When the subsides stop, these people can not afford to pay 100% of their family income on Insurance premiums.

That ends Obamacare.

Good

 

[Blaster]

 

[Lisa558]

If they live in or near Washington and have family $100,000 doesn't go very far.

True, but they know that there’s a risk of a delayed paycheck in the fall and should live in such a way that allows them to have an emergency fund.

Most people earn less than $100,000 who do NOT work for the government and are at risk of losing their job entirely at any time. I don’t hear any weeping for them.

 

[Care4all]

Geez, and that coming from the President of the United State's official account....

How low are you Trumpers willing to let the President go, in humiliating the office of the presidency?

 

[Blaster]

Geez, and that coming from the President of the United State's official account....

How low are you Trumpers willing to let the President go, in humiliating the office of the presidency?

LMAO

 

[leftwinger]

It was only a couple months of funding? MACs boysccant even do that as they discuss going forward? Huh your Cheesiness?

 

[Lisa558]

Truly! Even when I was working decades ago, in the private sector, it was recommended to save 6 months pay, plus a savings, and a retirement fund. The one time I was laid off in a Chapter 11 bankruptcy restructuring, the regular employees got two weeks for every year they had worked for the company if pink slipped, and I in management was paid full salary for nearly 6 months, due to an NDA and all executives all had non disclosure agreements. We were not allowed to find another job in the industry that was their competition for 6 months....so they had to pay us and keep us on their healthcare the 6 months.

That and 9/11 happened a few years before that time, was the changing point in my life...when the hubby and I decided that money and fast lane careers didn't matter, we wanted to start smelling the roses....less money, but having a slower life surrounded by nature was what, the Doctor ordered, so we left the Boston suburb region and moved to Maine, and I stopped working and basically became a housewife, for the first time in twenty years of marriage....and a big surprise to me, I liked it....I didn't miss the career I once loved from head to toe, and never thought I would ever give up!

It was really hard financially at times, that I have to admit...but to us, the positives out weighed the negatives, it just took a different outlook on what really made us happy...and it was not the money or the fast lane.

In your case, you had it good. You were laid off but paid for six months.

In both my cases, I got two weeks’ notice. The first time, I found a job within three weeks (it was the 80s, and girls in their early to mid 20s had no problem), but the second time, in the recession of 09, I was early 50s and jobs were scarce. Took me 8 months - no paycheck - but finally found something. I had my emergency fund to tide me over and did not have to go into my IRA.

The point is that govt workers KNOW there’s a shutdown risk each fall and a possibility of a delayed paycheck. All they really need is 3 months in an ER fund.

 

[Scoutster]

 

[LeftofLeft]

Your source is incorrect. Illegals are not eligible for either Medicaid or ACA premium subsidies, nor would they be if Republicans restored their cuts to those programs that Democrats support.

Illegals are not eligible for many services provided by the government but that doesn’t stop Democrats from getting funding anyways to cover illegals.

The point of the article was to show Waters had the the opportunity to explicitly deny the intent of the Democrats regarding healthcare for illegals and she avoided the question.

 

[Lisa558]

The subsidies are what funds the help for people to be able to afford the insurance.

Right now, Obamacare makes the poor and middle class people without healthcare offered by their employers, pay for health insurance up to 10% of their monthly income, including all family income...and the subsidies for these lower income families pay the rest of the bill, the remaining 90%.

When the subsides stop, these people can not afford to pay 100% of their family income on Insurance premiums.

That ends Obamacare.

They’re not talking about ending subsidies. They’re talking about ending the INCREASED subsidies. The subsidies are so generous in some cases that all a person is paying is $30 a month. And that means the difference is shoved over to others who have to pay $1000 a month.

 

[theHawk]

Well if their achin' lil azzes shut down g'ment then there is no more g'ment to turn g'ment back on, so is this the end of America???

Government Shutdown Clock

Track the imminent government shutdown as Democrats' demands risk federal services for millions. Americans don’t agree with Democrats’ actions.

www.whitehouse.gov

I worked for the federal government for a long time, and it always cracked me up how people act like it’s the end of the world.

No one is more happy about government shutdowns than the government employees, because they always get a free vacation with the back pay. Although I always had an “essential” position and essential workers still have to go to work during shutdowns. We never got any bonus for working, while the useless people got a free paid vacation.