G'ment Has Shut Down The G'ment!!!

[Woodznutz]

I’d say anyone earning $100,000 or more should not get back pay.

If they live in or near Washington and have family $100,000 doesn't go very far.

 

[initforme]

I’d say anyone earning $100,000 or more should not get back pay.

Hilarious. Punish them right? Wow oh wow. There are people that actually believe that? Scary.

 

[Woodznutz]

They will be stabilized and deported.

If the hospital reports them as illegals. We could reduce our drug problem substantially if hospitals reported all overdoses to the police and the perps were locked up in treatment centers.

 

[Hafar1014]

Don’t I know it! I showed up in the ER one day, bleeding profusely from my finger (kitchen incident), and I left because I couldn’t afford the $6000 deductible. In the meantime, waiting room was full of illegals speaking Spanish, getting the care for free.

Why is your deductible so high. Youre policy should have low cost benefit zero deductibles for ER

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Government sometimes drives people to drink I suppose, though this may not be the case in this instance. Look at me, waking up at 4:40 am due to my health issues and stress.

But you are Canadian, so your misery is understood.

 

[todd down under]

Hell yes, gov. Shut yourselves down and don't come back. Ever.

 

[todd down under]

Don’t I know it! I showed up in the ER one day, bleeding profusely from my finger (kitchen incident), and I left because I couldn’t afford the $6000 deductible. In the meantime, waiting room was full of illegals speaking Spanish, getting the care for free.

Oh, look. Another tall tale from our story weaver.

 

[Woodznutz]

Not true.

Undocumented immigrants in the United States generally face significant barriers to healthcare access. They are largely ineligible for federal programs like Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace subsidies​

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In fact, Democrats are insisting that Republicans agree to address rising health care premiums due to the expiration of enhanced subsidies under the Affordable Care Act, not to extend coverage to the undocumented.

Trump's “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” reduces federal spending on healthcare programs by $1 trillion over the next eight years. Experts say older adults could be directly affected by cuts being made to Medicare and Medicaid programs. ​

The GOP had already lost public support, and will be held responsible for its recalcitrance.

The generic congressional vote rating indicates which political party voters support in a congressional election:

Ballotpedia's generic congressional vote average:
+6 Democrats (September 30, 2025)

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So, those under Medicaid have 8 years to improve their health before the full effect of the cuts happen. Changes in lifestyle can improve one's health almost immediately.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Its ok. The $20Bn bailout of Argentina has been deemed essential and will still go ahead.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Essential workers are exempt.

As far as retroactive pay, the average salary is more than $100,000. People in that range should have a decent emergency fund.

The people I all know who work for the government - professionals - are glad there’s a shutdown. Now they won’t have to schlep downtown, and they know they’ll get back pay.

The average salary might be $100,000 in DC, but most government workers get far less. If you look at usajobs.gov, you will see that the average is far less for most jobs.

 

[Woodznutz]

Why is your deductible so high. Youre policy should have low cost benefit zero deductibles for ER

It's probably an Obamacare policy.

 

[SweetTea]

The subsidies, that made Obamacare work were all canceled in the Big Beautiful Bill.

The enhanced subsidies orginally passed in 2021(ARPA) in response to COVID were set to expire in 2022, but they were extended to 2025 by the Inflation Reduction Act. They will expire this year. How is ending these enhanced subsidies going to end Obamacare? Was it not working prior to 2021? If not, why? Keep in mind, the enhancements were in response to COVID. That is over.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I’d say anyone earning $100,000 or more should not get back pay.

Well, that's just your opinion.

 

[Care4all]

At least they get that. The two times the company I worked for was losing money, I lost my job altogether. The second time took me six months to find a replacement. (It was during the 2009 recession, when government workers had no worries.)

But I had saved money for such a situation, knowing that no job is secure. Govt workers know ahead of time that there is always a risk of a shutdown each fall and should have at least 2 months’ in cash saved.

Truly! Even when I was working decades ago, in the private sector, it was recommended to save 6 months pay, plus a savings, and a retirement fund. The one time I was laid off in a Chapter 11 bankruptcy restructuring, the regular employees got two weeks for every year they had worked for the company if pink slipped, and I in management was paid full salary for nearly 6 months, due to an NDA and all executives all had non disclosure agreements. We were not allowed to find another job in the industry that was their competition for 6 months....so they had to pay us and keep us on their healthcare the 6 months.

That and 9/11 happened a few years before that time, was the changing point in my life...when the hubby and I decided that money and fast lane careers didn't matter, we wanted to start smelling the roses....less money, but having a slower life surrounded by nature was what, the Doctor ordered, so we left the Boston suburb region and moved to Maine, and I stopped working and basically became a housewife, for the first time in twenty years of marriage....and a big surprise to me, I liked it....I didn't miss the career I once loved from head to toe, and never thought I would ever give up!

It was really hard financially at times, that I have to admit...but to us, the positives out weighed the negatives, it just took a different outlook on what really made us happy...and it was not the money or the fast lane.

 

[Blaster]

Wonder how long those ICE agents can go, without pay? Or the Military for that matter? Or TSA and air traffic controllers....? Hope they prepared for this.... The lump sum in retroactive pay will be nice when it happens, but until then, this can't be easy....for them or their families.

Boo Hoo. How many crocodile tears are you going to shed?

 

[Blaster]

Keep the government shutdown and fire all non essential government employees.

 

[Scoutster]

 

[Care4all]

Boo Hoo. How many crocodile tears are you going to shed?

Unlike you, and most people now a days, I can still empathise! And I see empathy as an asset and not a detriment, as you seem to indicate....

 

[Blaster]

Unlike you, and most people now a days, I can still empathise! And I see empathy as an asset and not a detriment, as you seem to indicate....

I could give a damn about lazy government employees.

 

[Care4all]

Keep the government shutdown and fire all non essential government employees.

Naive and foolish, to the hilt!