G'ment Has Shut Down The G'ment!!!

[Lisa558]

Wonder how long those ICE agents can go, without pay? Or the Military for that matter? Or TSA and air traffic controllers....? Hope they prepared for this.... The lump sum in retroactive pay will be nice when it happens, but until then, this can't be easy....for them or their families.

Essential workers are exempt.

As far as retroactive pay, the average salary is more than $100,000. People in that range should have a decent emergency fund.

The people I all know who work for the government - professionals - are glad there’s a shutdown. Now they won’t have to schlep downtown, and they know they’ll get back pay.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Maxine Waters had a golden opportunity to set the record straight on whether this was about Democrats were holding out for illegals to get healthcare. She said it was for EVERYBODY to get healthcare. “Everybody” includes illegals.

Touchy Maxine Waters Admits the Schumer Shutdown Is About Giving Healthcare to Illegal Immigrants

Maxine Waters confronts the Schumer shutdown over healthcare for illegal immigrants.

townhall.com

 

[1srelluc]

I am hiking through the smokies next week. I guess I will skip the $38 permit since no one will be there to check. Love the opportunity to increase the Trump deficit.

What, in direct defiance of the Schumer-cades?

It is right much of a joke, thousands upon thousands of acres of public land and they think a red cone will stop anyone.

It about like the Halfrican's shutdown.....Vets that wanted to see The Wall in DC just tossed the red Barry-cade cones aside and went in.

 

[Hafar1014]

So THAT is what you are being TOLD, eh?

Thats what they have openly demanded
The One, Big, Beautiful Bill is a generational chance to protect Medicaid for Americans by removing at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants from the program.
That makes Medicaid more solvent and they have no right being covered anyway

 

[Care4all]

No, they do not get paid during the shutdown, from all that I have read...they'll get back pay? Let me find a link to confirm...

They do not get paid until after the shutdown is over, as back pay.

Navigating A Government Shutdown: One-Stop Resource Page

raskin.house.gov

 

[Lisa558]

When people work for private industry that isn’t profitable, they get laid off altogether - no back pay, and no comfort knowing they still have a job.

How come people only care when it’s government workers?

 

[Lisa558]

They do not get paid until after the shutdown is over, as back pay.

Navigating A Government Shutdown: One-Stop Resource Page

raskin.house.gov

At least they get that. The two times the company I worked for was losing money, I lost my job altogether. The second time took me six months to find a replacement. (It was during the 2009 recession, when government workers had no worries.)

But I had saved money for such a situation, knowing that no job is secure. Govt workers know ahead of time that there is always a risk of a shutdown each fall and should have at least 2 months’ in cash saved.

 

[citygator]

What, in direct defiance of the Schumer-cades?

It is right much of a joke, thousands upon thousands of acres of public land and they think a red cone will stop anyone.

It about like the Halfrican's shutdown.....Vets that wanted to see The Wall in DC just tossed the red Barry-cade cones aside and went in.

I am not sure what 4chan site you are on but they dont staff the parks but you can hike in them just fine. There are some limited access places that you cant really let people wander without oversight that they block off. That wont apply to anywhere on the App trail though.

 

[Lisa558]

Maxine Waters had a golden opportunity to set the record straight on whether this was about Democrats were holding out for illegals to get healthcare. She said it was for EVERYBODY to get healthcare. “Everybody” includes illegals.

Touchy Maxine Waters Admits the Schumer Shutdown Is About Giving Healthcare to Illegal Immigrants

Maxine Waters confronts the Schumer shutdown over healthcare for illegal immigrants.

townhall.com

They also want money for foreign countries to fund green initiatives.

 

[schmidlap]

Democrats are demanding illegals be put back on Medicaid and PBS and NPR be funded again so they can pay off their supporters. Schumer is trying to look tough fearing a challenge by AOC. 65% of Americans blame democrats in a NY Times poll.
Democrats continue to destroy their party

Not true.

Undocumented immigrants in the United States generally face significant barriers to healthcare access. They are largely ineligible for federal programs like Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace subsidies​

​

In fact, Democrats are insisting that Republicans agree to address rising health care premiums due to the expiration of enhanced subsidies under the Affordable Care Act, not to extend coverage to the undocumented.

Trump's “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” reduces federal spending on healthcare programs by $1 trillion over the next eight years. Experts say older adults could be directly affected by cuts being made to Medicare and Medicaid programs. ​

The GOP had already lost public support, and will be held responsible for its recalcitrance.

The generic congressional vote rating indicates which political party voters support in a congressional election:

Ballotpedia's generic congressional vote average:
+6 Democrats (September 30, 2025)

Ballotpedia's Polling Index: Generic congressional vote

ballotpedia.org

 

[Care4all]

Thats what they have openly demanded
The One, Big, Beautiful Bill is a generational chance to protect Medicaid for Americans by removing at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants from the program.
That makes Medicaid more solvent and they have no right being covered anyway

Ok, so this Obamacare issue was not in the BBB as thought but a separate funding bill up for renewal.

No where mentioned in what you said about illegals or Medicaid by me or you, in the decision on keeping the government opened by either repubs or dems....

You are regurgitating a TOTAL LIE about dems wanting this to fund healthcare for illegals.

SHAME ON YOU!

Much of the federal government is now shut down after Republicans and Democrats in the Senate failed to agree on a pair of dueling funding bills to keep the government open.

Republicans voted to block a bill proposed by Democrats that included government funding through the end of October and an extension of federal healthcare subsidies that are set to expire at the end of the year. The second bill was also defeated nearly along party lines. Democrats refused to join Republicans to approve a short-term measure passed by the House that would keep the government funded at current levels through Nov. 21. Both measures needed 60 votes to pass.

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/01/nx-s1-5558456/government-shutdown-trump-house

 

[initforme]

So we as a nation expect some to show up and work with the possibility they dont see a paycheck for awhile? Nope. Thats just plain immoral. Those workers can quit no notice too?

 

[Hafar1014]

Not true.

Undocumented immigrants in the United States generally face significant barriers to healthcare access. They are largely ineligible for federal programs like Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace subsidies​

​

In fact, Democrats are insisting that Republicans agree to address rising health care premiums due to the expiration of enhanced subsidies under the Affordable Care Act, not to extend coverage to the undocumented.

Trump's “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” reduces federal spending on healthcare programs by $1 trillion over the next eight years. Experts say older adults could be directly affected by cuts being made to Medicare and Medicaid programs. ​

The GOP had already lost public support, and will be held responsible for its recalcitrance.

The generic congressional vote rating indicates which political party voters support in a congressional election:

Ballotpedia's generic congressional vote average:
+6 Democrats (September 30, 2025)

Ballotpedia's Polling Index: Generic congressional vote

ballotpedia.org

More than 1.4 million illegal immigrants — including cold-blooded criminals, like those arrested this weekend in Los Angeles — are currently on Medicaid, stealing taxpayer-funded health care benefits meant for American citizens.

The One Big Beautiful Bill puts a stop to that. By passing the One Big Beautiful Bill, Medicaid will be protected for generations of American citizens — thwarting Democrats’ attempts at destroying it by funding benefits for illegals on the backs of hardworking American taxpayers.

They are all going to be deported anyway

 

[LeftofLeft]

They also want money for foreign countries to fund green initiatives.

And, to restore public broadcasting funding.

 

[Woodznutz]

Hold up. Since the govt is gonna be shut down, shouldn't they deduct however many days of taxes they were down?

Naw. They still need the money for backpay when the gov't reopens.

 

[Woodznutz]

Thats what they have openly demanded
The One, Big, Beautiful Bill is a generational chance to protect Medicaid for Americans by removing at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants from the program.
That makes Medicaid more solvent and they have no right being covered anyway

They'll still show up at ED's for emergency treatment. Hospitals eat $Millions each year from that.

 

[Lisa558]

Naw. They still need the money for backpay when the gov't reopens.

I’d say anyone earning $100,000 or more should not get back pay.

 

[1srelluc]

I’d say anyone earning $100,000 or more should not get back pay.

But, but, but, they live paycheck to paycheck.

 

[Lisa558]

They'll still show up at ED's for emergency treatment. Hospitals eat $Billions each year from that.

Don’t I know it! I showed up in the ER one day, bleeding profusely from my finger (kitchen incident), and I left because I couldn’t afford the $6000 deductible. In the meantime, waiting room was full of illegals speaking Spanish, getting the care for free.

 

[Hafar1014]

They'll still show up at ED's for emergency treatment. Hospitals eat $Billions each year from that.

They will be stabilized and deported