Glorious day! A new kind of WOKE!

[Lisa558]

There is a lot to unpack in that statement beginning with your claim the entire federal government is corrupt.

I said AID is corrupt, and that is the organization they work for.

As far as the rest of the Government, it is bloated and we need to trim the fat. It’s not as if the Government is operating at a surplus.

I wonder if you will get your social security check? Medicare? Meals on Wheels? Home healthcare assistance? Discounted prescriptions? Disability benefits.

First, I don’t get all that stuff.

Second, we are not firing all 2 million Government workers. We will still send out SS and cover Medicare, etc.

You can stop the scare tactics. Americans know the govt is horribly overstaffed, and that we are running at deficits. We need to streamline, get rid of the redundant employees, and of course stop the woke and wasteful projects.

 

[Coyote]

Nobody said all the workers at AID are “guilty.” But the fact remains the agency they work for is throwing taxpayer money away on ridiculous woke projects and thus the projects will dry up as well as the need for all the employees.

All the workers are being treated as “guilty”.

Aside from that, what actual data do you have and is it enough to justify the wrecking ball approach as opposed to a systematic analytical review and then plan of action!

What percentage of USAID’s programs are “throwing away” taxpayer money or “ridiculously wome”? Who gets to make that determination?

How many of those claims are even truthful? There are a lot of claims coming from Musk and Trump with no evidence to back them. One such fraudulent claim that is brought up as an “example” of “woke” and “waste” is this one.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-evidence-us-spent-50-million-condoms-gaza-2025-01-30/

You think when tens of thousands of private employees are laid off that they are “guilty”? They happened to work for a company that hit hard times. Happens ALL the time in private.

Why do you think government employees are exempt from the real world?

A better question is why do you think private sector workers aren’t entitled to better rights!

 

[Billiejeens]

Nobody said all the workers at AID are “guilty.” But the fact remains the agency they work for is throwing taxpayer money away on ridiculous woke projects and thus the projects will dry up as well as the need for all the employees.

You think when tens of thousands of private employees are laid off that they are “guilty”? They happened to work for a company that hit hard times. Happens ALL the time in private.

Why do you think government employees are exempt from the real world?

Because they always have been.

Saying that they are throwing money away, really undersells how destructive it has been.

The taxpayers of all parties, or no party, have been financing Democrats and causes that simply kick huge amounts of money back to the Democrats, to further their agenda which perpetuates the cycle of awful government.

It would be far less destructive to simply burn the money.

 

[Lisa558]

All the workers are being treated as “guilty”.

How so? We don’t yet know which ones are complicit, so they all have to stay home.

Aside from that, what actual data do you have and is it enough to justify the wrecking ball approach as opposed to a systematic analytical review and then plan of action!

We’ve already had a list of horribly wasteful woke programs - do we really need to promote atheism in Nepal, or have a transgender opera in Peru, etc. - so let’s abolish those.

Chairman Mast Exposes Outrageous USAID and State Department Grants

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Today, House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Brian Mast released the following video exposing radical, far-left grants issued by the State Department and United States Agency for International Development under the Biden administration.

foreignaffairs.house.gov

What percentage of USAID’s programs are “throwing away” taxpayer money or “ridiculously wome”? Who gets to make that determination?

We don’t have to work with percentages. Just expose the total amount of dollars spent on waste. As for who makes the determination, YOU libs are trying to HIDE how the money is being spent.

American taxpayers have a right to know how our money is being spent. The Dems act like it’s THEIR money and they don’t have to disclose how they use it.

How many of those claims are even truthful? There are a lot of claims coming from Musk and Trump with no evidence to back them. One such fraudulent claim that is brought up as an “example” of “woke” and “waste” is this one.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-evidence-us-spent-50-million-condoms-gaza-2025-01-30/

Eh. Plenty of evidence on woke nonsense.

A better question is why do you think private sector workers aren’t entitled to better rights!

Did you just fall out of coconut tree? When an employer is losing money, he gets rid of workers. You think a business doing poorly should be forced to keep paying everyone? News flash: Neother business nor government exist to give jobs to people.

 

[Lisa558]

Because they always have been.

Saying that they are throwing money away, really undersells how destructive it has been.

The taxpayers of all parties, or no party, have been financing Democrats and causes that simply kick huge amounts of money back to the Democrats, to further their agenda which perpetuates the cycle of awful government.

It would be far less destructive to simply burn the money.

Burning money is a waste too. Let’s just not spend it, and use the savings to pay down the debt.

 

[buckeye]

It is not so much that they are ignorant as it is that so much of what they know is simply wrong.

I know what you mean but most of it is because they're uninformed. I belong to a group which encourages both sides to talk to each other respectfully and often. I have a few blue freinds that I can be perfectly honest with. These people are smart, educated and read the WP, NYT, NPR, ABC, NBC and CBS regularly. They're motivated enough to attend meetings and have discussions on a monthly basis.

There is SO much they've never heard of. Recently, I brought up the Twitter files. I was at a table of 6 blues and me. Not one of them had even heard of the Twitter Files.

 

[Foxfyre]

Absolute power is a very, very bad idea.

The U.S. Constitution and the government it established was put into law by brilliant men who knew absolute power will invariably corrupt absolutely. They intended for the people to hold the power and for the government to serve the people.

The three separate but equal divisions of government--executive, legislative, judiciary--when used as the Constitution intended--provide checks and balances to prevent any part of government achieving absolute power.

We need to keep just a very few of those woke liberals around to remind us how crazy and destructive absolute power can be.

 

[Foxfyre]

The impeachment vote had zero chance of having any consequences.

She gets to have those votes

Sure she gets to vote however she chooses to vote. I may have to accept that vote, but I don't have to respect a person who casts a wrong and destructive vote.

 

[Billiejeens]

Burning money is a waste too. Let’s just not spend it, and use the savings to pay down the debt.

But!

Not as bad as us financing our domestic enemies.

It's not just waste.
It's criminal level corruption.

 

[Billiejeens]

Sure she gets to vote however she chooses to vote. I may have to accept that vote, but I don't have to respect a person who casts a wrong and destructive vote.

But

Big picture it was neither.

 

[Foxfyre]

But now they cannot plead the fifth....
Do you realize what a nightmare that is legally?

Legally of no consequence with a presidential pardon. Having to tell the truth could certainly be embarrassing.

 

[Foxfyre]

But

Big picture it was neither.

Still doesn't make it right.

 

[buckeye]

We need to keep just a very few of those woke liberals around to remind us how crazy and destructive absolute power can be.

Totally agree but corruption comes with absolute power. Look at what the democrats have done.

 

[Coyote]

How so? We don’t yet know which ones are complicit, so they all have to stay home.

Complicit in WHAT exactly?

Since when has an entire been treated as guilty like this? How does it make economic sense to do it in this manner?

We’ve already had a list of horribly wasteful woke programs - do we really need to promote atheism in Nepal, or have a transgender opera in Peru, etc. - so let’s abolish those.

What are you are is taking the most extreme examples as if they were the norm. 50,000 for a transgender opera is silly but a drop in the bucket compared the costs associated with pausing all these grants, putting everyone on leave etc. The costs of this debacle far outweigh any savings.

How much is DOGE getting paid? How are they being financed and by whom? How do they fit in with the desire for of small government? Big brother anyone?

Chairman Mast Exposes Outrageous USAID and State Department Grants

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Today, House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Brian Mast released the following video exposing radical, far-left grants issued by the State Department and United States Agency for International Development under the Biden administration.

foreignaffairs.house.gov

You don’t like when I use “leftist rags”, please don’t insult me by using your government propaganda as a source.

We don’t have to work with percentages. Just expose the total amount of dollars spent on waste. As for who makes the determination, YOU libs are trying to HIDE how the money is being spent.

Speaking of hiding…how much are we paying DOGE?

American taxpayers have a right to know how our money is being spent. The Dems act like it’s THEIR money and they don’t have to disclose how they use it.

Yes. We do.

How much are we paying Doge?
How much is Trump getting from cryptocurrency while president?
How much is Kennedy getting from his vaccine lawsuits while collecting a tax payer funded salary?
Why is taxpayer money funding fossil fuels?
Why is taxpayer money funding fraudulent pregnancy crisis centers?
Why is taxpayer money funding religious indoctrination?

Eh. Plenty of evidence on woke nonsense.

Did you just fall out of coconut tree? When an employer is losing money, he gets rid of workers. You think a business doing poorly should be forced to keep paying everyone? News flash: Neother business nor government exist to give jobs to people.

When an employer gets rid of workers, he first determines where to cut and who needs to be retained.

 

[Lisa558]

Complicit in WHAT exactly?

Since when has an entire been treated as guilty like this? How does it make economic sense to do it in this manner?



What are you are is taking the most extreme examples as if they were the norm. 50,000 for a transgender opera is silly but a drop in the bucket compared the costs associated with pausing all these grants, putting everyone on leave etc. The costs of this debacle far outweigh any savings.

How much is DOGE getting paid? How are they being financed and by whom? How do they fit in with the desire for of small government? Big brother anyone?



You don’t like when I use “leftist rags”, please don’t insult me by using your government propaganda as a source.



Speaking of hiding…how much are we paying DOGE?

Yes. We do.

How much are we paying Doge?
How much is Trump getting from cryptocurrency while president?
How much is Kennedy getting from his vaccine lawsuits while collecting a tax payer funded salary?
Why is taxpayer money funding fossil fuels?
Why is taxpayer money funding fraudulent pregnancy crisis centers?
Why is taxpayer money funding religious indoctrination?



When an employer gets rid of workers, he first determines where to cut and who needs to be retained.

I don’t want to spend the time working my way through your entire diatribe, but to the last point….no employee has been fired yet. They are still collecting full pay.

But the AID employees cannot be allowed into the building. Some of them are trying to hide, or destroy, evidence of what’s been going on, and so they all need to stay home, without access to computers, to assure no harm be done.

 

[Unkotare]

...


I'm a black man with more sense than some Asian who wants to be white kissing up to racists online.

I think this racist coward has me on ignore most of the time, so would someone tell the idiot that I am NOT Asian (as I've said 1000 times)?

 

[Billiejeens]

Still doesn't make it right.

"Right" is keeping that seat in Republican control.

 

[Billiejeens]

I think this racist coward has me on ignore most of the time, so would someone tell the idiot that I am NOT Asian (as I've said 1000 times)?

Hispanic?

 

[Unkotare]

Hispanic?

Irish down to the bone, but all American.

 

[Billiejeens]

Irish down to the bone, but all American.

Woo
Woo