Glenn Beck Urges Listeners to Leave Churches That Preach Social Justice
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Jay Canuck
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I'm still waiting for those studies on the charitable practices of Liberals vs Conservatives
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I'm still waiting for those studies on the charitable practices of Liberals vs Conservatives
There is in fact on such study, I have seen it, and I think the methodology is halfway decent.
The thing is, Conservatives like to give to charitable causes, like their childrens' baseball team, their town museum, or the local prom, and then write this off on their taxes.
In other words, things they would have been paying for anyway, that qualify under the rather obscure and broad "charity" laws that exist at the moment.
Thus they avoid paying their dreaded taxes, and get the things they want in their local area half paid for by federal tax exemptions.
There was a recent article in the NY Times describing just this phenomenon, though they didn't specify Conservatives as the primary offenders, they simply detailed all the crazy things that now fall under the category of "Charitable Donations".
I'll see if I can find the article.
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This is actually not the article I was looking for, but does provide an interesting on what constitutes a non-profit "charity".
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/us/26tax.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/us/26tax.html
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that article does raise some very valid questions -
"One issue is the growing confusion over what constitutes a charity at a time when nonprofit groups look more like businesses, charging fees and selling products and services to raise money, and state and local governments are under financial pressure because of lower tax revenues.
And there are others: Does a nonprofit hospital give enough charity care to earn a tax exemption? Is a wealthy university providing enough financial aid?"
"One issue is the growing confusion over what constitutes a charity at a time when nonprofit groups look more like businesses, charging fees and selling products and services to raise money, and state and local governments are under financial pressure because of lower tax revenues.
And there are others: Does a nonprofit hospital give enough charity care to earn a tax exemption? Is a wealthy university providing enough financial aid?"
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"The single biggest predictor of someone's altruism, Willett says, is religion. It increasingly correlates with conservative political affiliations because, as Brooks' book says, "the percentage of self-described Democrats who say they have 'no religion' has more than quadrupled since the early 1970s." America is largely divided between religious givers and secular nongivers, and the former are disproportionately conservative. One demonstration that religion is a strong determinant of charitable behavior is that the least charitable cohort is a relatively small one -- secular conservatives."
if the religious givers listen to Beck I guess that will change won't it?
if the religious givers listen to Beck I guess that will change won't it?
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Not if they are female. They just get a glazed mezmerized look in their eyes.
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As I said, the study exists and seems valid.
The question is, what constitutes a "charity". There are in fact many, many organizations that are supposedly "charities" that are actually the charitable contributor's son's baseball team.
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You mean the Becker-head actually said that Nazi's are on the right? First "fact" I have heard him get right. Last I heard from him commies, and Nazi’s , liberals, and socialists were all the same.
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Well, there's a lot of Christians on the left too.
Beck basically attacked all Christians. Perhaps he feels they should all convert to Mormonism?
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Glenn Beck: 'Leave Your Church' | Christianity Today | A Magazine of Evangelical Conviction
Glenn Beck: 'Leave Your Church'
Advocacy groups respond to the conservative commentator's call to leave churches that promote social justice. Plus, reactions to health care in the House and gay rights in Virginia.
Glenn Beck: 'Leave Your Church'
Advocacy groups respond to the conservative commentator's call to leave churches that promote social justice. Plus, reactions to health care in the House and gay rights in Virginia.
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I'll leave any church that uses the pulpit of the Most High to further their political agenda. God is neither democrat or republican he's holy. Religion and politics don't belong together period. My faith is my business and nobody else's. And definitely not Glenn Becks.
Did you have that scripture were Jesus tells people to grow the government and make charity its job?
What happened to separation between Church and state?
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Mr Beck did not specify that he meant ONLY governmental attempts at "Social Justice" in his comments.
Thus his statement included all church-related anti-poverty efforts, such as alms to the poor.
That is why people in the church are rather pissed at the moment.
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Really. you have a link to the video?
I believe Glenn's point was about "Mandated" contributing. One might also consider distinguishing between funds that are voluntary V.S. Tithed.
Here is who is pissed off
Jim Wallis: In Spite of Glenn Beck's New Threats, My Invitation to Dialogue Stands
This guy will hang himself shortly, he has been recorded for decades his words are out there.
Jim Wallis: In Spite of Glenn Beck's New Threats, My Invitation to Dialogue Stands
This guy will hang himself shortly, he has been recorded for decades his words are out there.
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