CDZ Ginsburg was right , it was about population control.

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The abortion-rights movement did work with population controllers and borrow from their argumentative strategies. Some population controllers did have ties to the eugenic legal reform movement, and population programs at times focused on the fertility of poor, non-white individuals. Nonetheless, arguments conflating the movements for legal abortion, population control, and eugenics are misleading. Indeed, as we shall see, Zero Population Growth, Inc. (ZPG), the only major population-control organization to lobby for abortion reform before Roe, tended to focus on population control within the white American middle class.

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Similar claims found favor with a broad spectrum of politicians, judges, and members of the public, and influential members in the population-control movement endorsed the repeal of abortion bans.78
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The crime rate was again blamed on the blacks and less of them would seem to be ok.
But it sure helps keep the black population down, doesn't it???

Margaret Sanger would be proud....

Margaret Sanger was not pro eugenics or abortions.
She was deeply linked with the eugenics movement. Why do Dims always lie. She also have a talk of eugenics to the KKK.
 

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Sanger was a Racist who ... wanted to wipe Black people off the face of this planet.
This lie is truly Orwellian in scope. Even the slightest acquaintance with Margaret Sanger’s life history would show this to be false and slanderous:


W. E. B. Du Bois served on the board of Sanger's Harlem clinic

Sanger worked with African American leaders and professionals who saw a need for birth control in their communities. In 1929, James H. Hubert, a black social worker and the leader of New York's Urban League, asked Sanger to open a clinic in Harlem. Sanger secured funding ... and opened the clinic, staffed with black doctors, in 1930. The clinic was directed by a 15-member advisory board consisting of black doctors, nurses, clergy, journalists, and social workers. The clinic was publicized in the African-American press as well as in black churches, and it received the approval of W. E. B. Du Bois, the co-founder of the NAACP and the editor of its magazine, The Crisis. Sanger did not tolerate bigotry among her staff, nor would she tolerate any refusal to work within interracial projects. Sanger's work with minorities earned praise from Martin Luther King, Jr., in his 1966 acceptance speech for the Margaret Sanger award.[79]


Even her wiki page talks about her links to the KKK and eugenics. But Dims lie....it's what you do.
 

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The abortion-rights movement did work with population controllers and borrow from their argumentative strategies. Some population controllers did have ties to the eugenic legal reform movement, and population programs at times focused on the fertility of poor, non-white individuals. Nonetheless, arguments conflating the movements for legal abortion, population control, and eugenics are misleading. Indeed, as we shall see, Zero Population Growth, Inc. (ZPG), the only major population-control organization to lobby for abortion reform before Roe, tended to focus on population control within the white American middle class.

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Similar claims found favor with a broad spectrum of politicians, judges, and members of the public, and influential members in the population-control movement endorsed the repeal of abortion bans.78
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The crime rate was again blamed on the blacks and less of them would seem to be ok.
RBG has always been Left.
 

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Do some research. Sanger felt birth control would reduce the need for abortions, which were both dangerous, and a common means of birth control in her era.
Sanger was a Leftist Racist.

Sanger supported Eugenics.

Sanger wanted to rid the world of Black folk as much as Hitler wanted to rid the world of Jews.

It does not surprise anyone that you would defend that kind of insanity.
That has been refuted.

...more to the point...her movement made birth control legal, available and affordable.

Why do you oppose that?
A better question is why doesn't irresponsible people not use it?

Responsible being the keyword
 

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Even her wiki page talks about her links to the KKK and eugenics.
Not only the Wiki page with its 160 references mentions Margaret Sanger’s support to eugenics and “population control,” but all this is quite central to the theme of this thread. As to “addressing the KKK” (really its women’s auxiliary), Sanger openly defended her decision to do so, as the Klan was one of the largest organizations in the country at that time. I put this whole question into historical perspective in comment #35 and in my many other comments in this thread.

But you of course aren’t interested in historical context. Hell, I suppose you think Thomas Paine was a racist for working with Thomas Jefferson and George Washington ... who were after all slaveowners ! :eek:

P.S. Your own sentiments are made quite clear by your choice of pen-name and identifying photo.
 
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Even her wiki page talks about her links to the KKK and eugenics.
Not only the Wiki page with its 160 references mentions Margaret Sanger’s support to eugenics and “population control,” but all this is quite central to the theme of this thread. As to “addressing the KKK” (really its women’s auxiliary), Sanger openly defended her decision to do so, as the Klan was one of the largest organizations in the country at that time. I put this whole question into historical perspective in comment #35 and in my many other comments in this thread.

But you of course aren’t interested in historical context. Hell, I suppose you think Thomas Paine was a racist for working with Thomas Jefferson and George Washington ... who were after all slaveowners ! :eek:

P.S. Your own sentiments are made quite clear by your choice of pen-name and identifying photo.

Thanks for the confirmation. :thup: Sanger was a deeply racist eugenist who consorted with the Klan. No wonder she is a hero to Dims.
 

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WASHINGTON, March 16 — President Nixon signed a bill today creating a commission to evaluate national population growth, which he described as “explosive In every way as we head into the last third of this century.”

The chairman or the commission, he said, will be John D. Rockefeller 3d of New York. “Perhaps no person in the world,” the President said, “has been more closely or longer identified with this problem.”

Wow it appears president Nixon was one of the first presidents concerned with climate change and trying to save the earth.

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Yes he was concerned about climate change.
Except the climate change we were worried about back then was a new ice age.
 

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Even her wiki page talks about her links to the KKK and eugenics.
Not only the Wiki page with its 160 references mentions Margaret Sanger’s support to eugenics and “population control,” but all this is quite central to the theme of this thread. As to “addressing the KKK” (really its women’s auxiliary), Sanger openly defended her decision to do so, as the Klan was one of the largest organizations in the country at that time. I put this whole question into historical perspective in comment #35 and in my many other comments in this thread.

But you of course aren’t interested in historical context. Hell, I suppose you think Thomas Paine was a racist for working with Thomas Jefferson and George Washington ... who were after all slaveowners ! :eek:

P.S. Your own sentiments are made quite clear by your choice of pen-name and identifying photo.

Thanks for the confirmation. :thup: Sanger was a deeply racist eugenist who consorted with the Klan. No wonder she is a hero to Dims.
NO she wasn't. She and her family were activists who supported both blacks and women. She saw population control as a way to help women and children get out of abusive relationships and poverty.
 

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Sanger was a Racist who ... wanted to wipe Black people off the face of this planet.
This lie is truly Orwellian in scope. Even the slightest acquaintance with Margaret Sanger’s life history would show this to be false and slanderous:


W. E. B. Du Bois served on the board of Sanger's Harlem clinic

Sanger worked with African American leaders and professionals who saw a need for birth control in their communities. In 1929, James H. Hubert, a black social worker and the leader of New York's Urban League, asked Sanger to open a clinic in Harlem. Sanger secured funding ... and opened the clinic, staffed with black doctors, in 1930. The clinic was directed by a 15-member advisory board consisting of black doctors, nurses, clergy, journalists, and social workers. The clinic was publicized in the African-American press as well as in black churches, and it received the approval of W. E. B. Du Bois, the co-founder of the NAACP and the editor of its magazine, The Crisis. Sanger did not tolerate bigotry among her staff, nor would she tolerate any refusal to work within interracial projects. Sanger's work with minorities earned praise from Martin Luther King, Jr., in his 1966 acceptance speech for the Margaret Sanger award.[79]


Even her wiki page talks about her links to the KKK and eugenics. But Dims lie....it's what you do.
Eugenics isn't based on race--

Eugenics is based more on birth defects----like not allowing the mentally handicapped to have children because their kids would be at higher risk for being mentally handicapped.
 

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Sanger was a Racist who ... wanted to wipe Black people off the face of this planet.
This lie is truly Orwellian in scope. Even the slightest acquaintance with Margaret Sanger’s life history would show this to be false and slanderous:


W. E. B. Du Bois served on the board of Sanger's Harlem clinic

Sanger worked with African American leaders and professionals who saw a need for birth control in their communities. In 1929, James H. Hubert, a black social worker and the leader of New York's Urban League, asked Sanger to open a clinic in Harlem. Sanger secured funding ... and opened the clinic, staffed with black doctors, in 1930. The clinic was directed by a 15-member advisory board consisting of black doctors, nurses, clergy, journalists, and social workers. The clinic was publicized in the African-American press as well as in black churches, and it received the approval of W. E. B. Du Bois, the co-founder of the NAACP and the editor of its magazine, The Crisis. Sanger did not tolerate bigotry among her staff, nor would she tolerate any refusal to work within interracial projects. Sanger's work with minorities earned praise from Martin Luther King, Jr., in his 1966 acceptance speech for the Margaret Sanger award.[79]


Even her wiki page talks about her links to the KKK and eugenics. But Dims lie....it's what you do.
Eugenics isn't based on race--

Eugenics is based more on birth defects----like not allowing the mentally handicapped to have children because their kids would be at higher risk for being mentally handicapped.

No. Eugenics is what the Nazi's practiced. Selective breeding and culling to produce allegedly better humans.
 

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The following is My Population Crisis essay I think was written around 1996.
Back then, the Population was 6 Billion, so just about 24 years later the world population sprouted to 7.8 billion as of September 2020, according to the most recent United Nations estimates elaborated by Worldometer.

Although the population growth rate has slowed down and is leveling off, it’s still double
-(in 1996?)-what it was in 1960. This planet already holds over 6 Billion and is growing by aprox. 80 million a year (this ended up pretty accurate, just off slightly as it ended up being about 75 million a year).
This is sure to intensify the burden of some weaker nations as well as put a strain on those who’s
environment and economy is already struggling.
Shocking to think about, is the fact that the world population increases every three years, by the same size of the population of the whole United States.
The real strain is on developing countries who already have trouble and
signs of striping it’s resources and causing poor usable water conditions. The higher the population- the higher the consumption, and some developing nations just can’t handle the sudden sprout in population.

What is in store for the future then?
From studies such as Calhoun’s theory of populations increases we can expect a change in the control of multiple births like China does in restrictions & through education, or else expect possible problems.
Calhoun found that with increased populations there was a natural ability to
eventualy corrected itself by decreased natality and increased mortality. Another factor in population control was the sudden increase in violent and aggressive behavior. The conclusion was that nature itself has it’s own checks and balances to adjust itself and correct any explosive population growth.
We have a choice to correct this fairly or nature will correct it for us randomly without mercy.
 
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Margaret Sanger was not pro eugenics or abortions.
Actually, Penelope, the heroic pro-“birth control” (then anti-abortion) Irish woman’s rights activist Margaret Sanger was a supporter of what may be called a non-racial “soft eugenics” view. Of course anti-woman discrimination and eugenics and open racism were almost universally popular in white “proper” society in post WWI days. Here is a short comment I made that was based on a lot of research: Planned Parenthood Affiliate DISAVOWING Margaret Sanger
The US was into eugenics so that is why she started the birth control clinic. According to readings she was pro negative eugenics, anyway the whole of the US was into eugenics.
 
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This is CDZ, or else I would call John T. Ford exactly what he is.

John T. Ford has just been nailed by Coyote in comment #54 for reprinting a meme attributing a quote written by White Supremacist Tom Metzger to Margaret Sanger.

Does he apologize? No.

Does he say he simply made an unintentional error? No.

Instead he doubles down with more slander, calumny and lies.

This is the sort of crap that makes a decent human being sick to his stomach, and vitiates the purpose of the CDZ.

But there is nothing to be done. Just remember ... learn ... and think.
It's OK Tom ....All normal thinking Americans understand just how vile the American Left truly is ....

Why do you think the Republicans want to spare Trump's SCOTUS Nominee Congressional hearings?
Merrick Garland comes to mind.
 

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Thanks for the confirmation. :thup: Sanger was a deeply racist eugenist who consorted with the Klan. No wonder she is a hero to Dims.
Leftist will ALWAYS defend their Racism through LIES and History Revision.

But, make no mistake about it.

The American Left are the same Racist they have ALWAYS been.
 
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Even her wiki page talks about her links to the KKK and eugenics.
Not only the Wiki page with its 160 references mentions Margaret Sanger’s support to eugenics and “population control,” but all this is quite central to the theme of this thread. As to “addressing the KKK” (really its women’s auxiliary), Sanger openly defended her decision to do so, as the Klan was one of the largest organizations in the country at that time. I put this whole question into historical perspective in comment #35 and in my many other comments in this thread.

But you of course aren’t interested in historical context. Hell, I suppose you think Thomas Paine was a racist for working with Thomas Jefferson and George Washington ... who were after all slaveowners ! :eek:

P.S. Your own sentiments are made quite clear by your choice of pen-name and identifying photo.

Thanks for the confirmation. :thup: Sanger was a deeply racist eugenist who consorted with the Klan. No wonder she is a hero to Dims.
The US was in eugenics long before Hitler was.
 

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That quote is attributed to Tom Metzgar, a white supremacist and neo-Nazi, not Margaret Sanger. It is directly from this book.

Encyclopedia of White Power
Please note that white supremacists love abortion.

Another example: This is the alt-right: Richard Spencer’s horrifying abortion rant

Also recall that the Nazis were condemned at the Nuremberg trials for promoting abortion in the occupied territories.
Forced abortions are a crime against humanity.
 
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About 700,000 female sterilizations are performed annually, half of which are performed within 48 hours post-partum.5 Sterilization is performed following 10% of all births. Approximately 345,000 female sterilizations are interval procedures that do not occur immediately following pregnancy.6 Approximately 500,000 vasectomies are performed annually for a rate of 9.9 procedures per 1000 men aged 25 to 49.4 Overall, the sterilization rates for men and women have remained constant over the past 40 years, although the surgical methods employed have changed with advances in technology and anesthesia.
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