CDZ Ginsburg was right , it was about population control.

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The abortion-rights movement did work with population controllers and borrow from their argumentative strategies. Some population controllers did have ties to the eugenic legal reform movement, and population programs at times focused on the fertility of poor, non-white individuals. Nonetheless, arguments conflating the movements for legal abortion, population control, and eugenics are misleading. Indeed, as we shall see, Zero Population Growth, Inc. (ZPG), the only major population-control organization to lobby for abortion reform before Roe, tended to focus on population control within the white American middle class.

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Similar claims found favor with a broad spectrum of politicians, judges, and members of the public, and influential members in the population-control movement endorsed the repeal of abortion bans.78
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The crime rate was again blamed on the blacks and less of them would seem to be ok.
 
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WASHINGTON, March 16 — President Nixon signed a bill today creating a commission to evaluate national population growth, which he described as “explosive In every way as we head into the last third of this century.”

The chairman or the commission, he said, will be John D. Rockefeller 3d of New York. “Perhaps no person in the world,” the President said, “has been more closely or longer identified with this problem.”

 

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Children who are unwanted, unloved, whose mothers are not prepared to mentally or materially raise a child, obviously have a greater tendency to fall into crime. The statistics demonstrate this. (Often such children have no fathers as they also did not want the child.) Of course that is not the reason the women’s movement fought for control over their reproductive life, any more than it is a reasonit fought for the vote. After abortions, women often have loved and wanted children later, when they are ready.
 

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The abortion-rights movement did work with population controllers and borrow from their argumentative strategies. Some population controllers did have ties to the eugenic legal reform movement, and population programs at times focused on the fertility of poor, non-white individuals. Nonetheless, arguments conflating the movements for legal abortion, population control, and eugenics are misleading. Indeed, as we shall see, Zero Population Growth, Inc. (ZPG), the only major population-control organization to lobby for abortion reform before Roe, tended to focus on population control within the white American middle class.

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Similar claims found favor with a broad spectrum of politicians, judges, and members of the public, and influential members in the population-control movement endorsed the repeal of abortion bans.78
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The crime rate was again blamed on the blacks and less of them would seem to be ok.
But it sure helps keep the black population down, doesn't it???

Margaret Sanger would be proud....

 
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A 1973 Supreme Court decision, Roe v. Wade, legalized abortion by a 7-2 vote. Six of the seven justices in the majority were Republican appointees. The only Democrat appointee, Byron White, voted against Roe v. Wade.

In fact, in every year since 1969, the United States Supreme Court has been controlled by a majority of Republican-appointed judges.

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6 republicans were wrong on the supreme court. I find it hypocrisy if the Supreme Court rules a ban on abortion or birth control pills.
 
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The abortion-rights movement did work with population controllers and borrow from their argumentative strategies. Some population controllers did have ties to the eugenic legal reform movement, and population programs at times focused on the fertility of poor, non-white individuals. Nonetheless, arguments conflating the movements for legal abortion, population control, and eugenics are misleading. Indeed, as we shall see, Zero Population Growth, Inc. (ZPG), the only major population-control organization to lobby for abortion reform before Roe, tended to focus on population control within the white American middle class.

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Similar claims found favor with a broad spectrum of politicians, judges, and members of the public, and influential members in the population-control movement endorsed the repeal of abortion bans.78
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The crime rate was again blamed on the blacks and less of them would seem to be ok.
But it sure helps keep the black population down, doesn't it???

Margaret Sanger would be proud....

Margaret Sanger was not pro eugenics or abortions.
 

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WASHINGTON, March 16 — President Nixon signed a bill today creating a commission to evaluate national population growth, which he described as “explosive In every way as we head into the last third of this century.”

The chairman or the commission, he said, will be John D. Rockefeller 3d of New York. “Perhaps no person in the world,” the President said, “has been more closely or longer identified with this problem.”

Wow it appears president Nixon was one of the first presidents concerned with climate change and trying to save the earth.

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WASHINGTON, March 16 — President Nixon signed a bill today creating a commission to evaluate national population growth, which he described as “explosive In every way as we head into the last third of this century.”

The chairman or the commission, he said, will be John D. Rockefeller 3d of New York. “Perhaps no person in the world,” the President said, “has been more closely or longer identified with this problem.”

Wow it appears president Nixon was one of the first presidents concerned with climate change and trying to save the earth.

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Yes he was concerned about climate change.
 

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I guess with early abortion less innocent bystanders get hurt or killed than if we wait for them to abort themselves when they're mature.

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“Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae – in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.
-Ruth Bader Ginsburg

There is no question about RBG supporting Margaret Sanger's model of Eugenics.
 

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Margaret Sanger was not pro eugenics or abortions.
Actually, Penelope, the heroic pro-“birth control” (then anti-abortion) Irish woman’s rights activist Margaret Sanger was a supporter of what may be called a non-racial “soft eugenics” view. Of course anti-woman discrimination and eugenics and open racism were almost universally popular in white “proper” society in post WWI days. Here is a short comment I made that was based on a lot of research: Planned Parenthood Affiliate DISAVOWING Margaret Sanger
 

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The abortion-rights movement did work with population controllers and borrow from their argumentative strategies. Some population controllers did have ties to the eugenic legal reform movement, and population programs at times focused on the fertility of poor, non-white individuals. Nonetheless, arguments conflating the movements for legal abortion, population control, and eugenics are misleading. Indeed, as we shall see, Zero Population Growth, Inc. (ZPG), the only major population-control organization to lobby for abortion reform before Roe, tended to focus on population control within the white American middle class.

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Similar claims found favor with a broad spectrum of politicians, judges, and members of the public, and influential members in the population-control movement endorsed the repeal of abortion bans.78
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The crime rate was again blamed on the blacks and less of them would seem to be ok.
Yup, democrats want to control the black population via genocide
 

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The decision involved the case of a woman named Norma McCorvey—known in her lawsuit under the pseudonym "Jane Roe"—who in 1969 became pregnant with her third child. McCorvey wanted an abortion, but she lived in Texas, where abortion was illegal except when necessary to save the mother's life. She was referred to lawyers Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee, who filed a lawsuit on her behalf in U.S. federal court against her local district attorney, Henry Wade, alleging that Texas's abortion laws were unconstitutional. A three-judge panel of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas heard the case and ruled in her favor. Texas then appealed this ruling directly to the U.S. Supreme Court, which agreed to hear the case.

In January 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision ruling that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion. But it also ruled that this right is not absolute, and must be balanced against the government's interests in protecting women's health and protecting prenatal life.[4][5] The Court resolved this balancing test by tying state regulation of abortion to the three trimesters of pregnancy: during the first trimester, governments could not prohibit abortions at all; during the second trimester, governments could require reasonable health regulations; during the third trimester, abortions could be prohibited entirely so long as the laws contained exceptions for cases when they were necessary to save the life or health of the mother.[5] The Court classified the right to choose to have an abortion as "fundamental", which required courts to evaluate challenged abortion laws under the "strict scrutiny" standard, the highest level of judicial review in the United States.[6]

It appears to me, what we have here, is a case of misinterpretation- imagine that.
It's NOT the fed gov't's business. Period. The lawyers made it that- in fact, alleging that Texas's abortion laws were unconstitutional- But it also ruled that this right is not absolute, and must be balanced against the government's interests in protecting women's health and protecting prenatal life

What interest does the gov't have in protecting women's health? Can one of the scholars here, point out, in the constitution, where that comes from?

The 14th amendment cleared the way for federal intervention into the every day life of everyone, to the point of legally negating unalienable rights relegating them to inalienable rights- and which Party claims to be all about the constitution? Does the 10th amendment become null and void just because? Unalienable vs inalienable is the real argument. IF a/the court grants it can rescind. You better think about that. Not just in this case, but in every demand to the courts-

Unalienable rights are endowed, inherent- inalienable rights not so much. Unalienable rights are not tangible, inalienable rights are grants and privileges. The latter is given and can be taken, the former cannot be given, or taken, only abused. Making the abuse legal ensures it will happen and be argued and often as not restricted.
 

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I would like to see the reference for this ostensible quote. Remember Margaret Sanger mostly opposed abortions throughout her long life. Such “internet quotes” without specific reference are often — not always — simply fake. By the way, “AZ Quotes” is particular infamous for using FAKE quotes.
 
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