Get ready for the collapse of America

[Harry Dresden]

so?....big deal.....he is just one guy with his opinion...i will bet he is wrong.....

Harry, this is the part I hate most about you righties. You have this superiority complex about educated people. C'mon man, you know better than that. You want your neighbour to do your heart surgery, or a qualified heart surgeon? Look, I get it is an opinion piece, and he does tend to be a leftie, but he certainly gives it to Hillary and Pelosi in the piece. He sees them as part of the problem and not the solution.

you know what i hate about people like you doc?.....if you say something you dont like you are automatically a righty.....try reading peoples posts before you start labeling someone.....i have been called a "libturd" by righties here for disagreeing with them...and i dont think much of trump.....he is his own worst enemy ....

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

why should he know?....just asking....

Chris Hedges is ... a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, a New York Times best-selling author, a professor in the college degree program offered to New Jersey state prisoners by Rutgers… He also was there during the collapse of Yugoslavia.

And you think Yugo is like America?

 

[Dr Grump]

so?....big deal.....he is just one guy with his opinion...i will bet he is wrong.....

Harry, this is the part I hate most about you righties. You have this superiority complex about educated people. C'mon man, you know better than that. You want your neighbour to do your heart surgery, or a qualified heart surgeon? Look, I get it is an opinion piece, and he does tend to be a leftie, but he certainly gives it to Hillary and Pelosi in the piece. He sees them as part of the problem and not the solution.

you know what i hate about people like you doc?.....if you say something you dont like you are automatically a righty.....try reading peoples posts before you start labeling someone.....i have been called a "libturd" by righties here for disagreeing with them...and i dont think much of trump.....he is his own worst enemy ....

I've never called you anything bad. I think you're a centrist who leans slightly to the right, thus me saying what I did. Apologies if overstated!

 

[Dr Grump]

And you think Yugo is like America?

It doesn't have to be. Whereas Yugoslavia was divided by ethnicity (Serb vs Croat) and religion (Bosnia vs everyone), the US is sharply divided along ideological lines.

 

[WillowTree]

so?....big deal.....he is just one guy with his opinion...i will bet he is wrong.....

Harry, this is the part I hate most about you righties. You have this superiority complex about educated people. C'mon man, you know better than that. You want your neighbour to do your heart surgery, or a qualified heart surgeon? Look, I get it is an opinion piece, and he does tend to be a leftie, but he certainly gives it to Hillary and Pelosi in the piece. He sees them as part of the problem and not the solution.

Maybe his neighbor is a qualified heart surgeon!

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

And you think Yugo is like America?

It doesn't have to be. Whereas Yugoslavia was divided by ethnicity (Serb vs Croat) and religion (Bosnia vs everyone), the US is sharply divided along ideological lines.

While it may come to gunfire I like my sides chances.

 

[Shrimpbox]

Interesting article from a guy who should know.
Gives it to the press, Dems and Trump.
Interesting in that he covers off on some points that the Deplorables have been talking about. Other points that the left have been talking about. Glad I don't live in the 'greatest country in the world'.
*Edit: This piece was written before George Floyd died.

The Coming Collapse - Truthdig

Every day the foundations of our institutions decay more, but American society is emotionally unable to grasp the mortal danger that approaches.

www.truthdig.com

Thank you for posting this, I just can’t subscribe to utter hopelessness seasoned with socialism and communes.

 

[basquebromance]

“American President Threatens Military Action Against Americans” - Not The Onion

 

[BluesLegend]

Relax America has survived far worse than these idiot snowflake leftists. 2 weeks max to put down their pathetic uprising.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

in America e have the 2nd amendment .... if and when the evil communist hordes move towards the suburbs the evil will be defeated .......quickly .

In his Rose Garden speech today, Trump promised to protect and support 2nd Amendment rights.

This is a civil war.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Relax America has survived far worse than these idiot snowflake leftists. 2 weeks max to put down their pathetic uprising.

America has. This isn't that America any more. There are mayors and even governors celebrating the arson, violence and looting. The mayor of our largest city New York is proud of his daughter's arrest for looting. No this isn't America. If you want America be prepared to fight for it.

 

[basquebromance]

not only can we not breathe, we cant sleep. i have black friends, and whenever i dont hear from them for a long time, my first thought is: they got shot by some racist cop

 

[basquebromance]

we will do better, we must do better. that's the tradition of america, my friends

 

[Dr Grump]

Relax America has survived far worse than these idiot snowflake leftists. 2 weeks max to put down their pathetic uprising.

As stated in the OP. This was written before the looting and protesting. Before George Floyd died.

 

[Dr Grump]

Relax America has survived far worse than these idiot snowflake leftists. 2 weeks max to put down their pathetic uprising.

America has. This isn't that America any more. There are mayors and even governors celebrating the arson, violence and looting. The mayor of our largest city New York is proud of his daughter's arrest for looting. No this isn't America. If you want America be prepared to fight for it.

This is why your country is in the state it is. You lie. She wasn't looting at all. Why do you lie? I know your hero in the WH lies all the time, but please, show some restraint. She was protesting and refused to move so she was arrested. I don't have an issue with that. I do have an issue with looting. That's the problem with Trump and his Deplorables. You don't do nuance. You don't take each circumstance under which it was created. "Oh, some guy hit another guy because he was mouthing off" is that same to you guys as "Some guy shot another guy because he was mouthing off". You create false equivalences all the time and you somehow think it is okay.

There is a difference between lying about a blowjob and lying about WMDs. There is a difference between lying about a blowjob and lying about meeting up with Russians (even if the meeting was innocuous).

And you guys are just way too dumb to get. Everything is black and white to you. No inbetween or shades of grey. And in the real world shades of grey far outweigh black and white.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Interesting article from a guy who should know.
Gives it to the press, Dems and Trump.
Interesting in that he covers off on some points that the Deplorables have been talking about. Other points that the left have been talking about. Glad I don't live in the 'greatest country in the world'.
*Edit: This piece was written before George Floyd died.

The Coming Collapse - Truthdig

Every day the foundations of our institutions decay more, but American society is emotionally unable to grasp the mortal danger that approaches.

www.truthdig.com

I have no intention of retiring here.

 

[blackhawk]

It's an opinion piece big deal everyone has them just because someone has a Pulitzer Prize doesn't make him right on everything. Paul Krugman is considered an expert on economics and he has gotten lots of stuff wrong over the years I have lost track of how much stuff the experts have gotten wrong on coronavirus which is suddenly not that big a deal. I don't dismiss the opinions of the so called experts out of hand but nor do I take them as the gospel truth either I see them for what they are one persons opinion.

 

[Dr Grump]

Interesting article from a guy who should know.
Gives it to the press, Dems and Trump.
Interesting in that he covers off on some points that the Deplorables have been talking about. Other points that the left have been talking about. Glad I don't live in the 'greatest country in the world'.
*Edit: This piece was written before George Floyd died.

The Coming Collapse - Truthdig

Every day the foundations of our institutions decay more, but American society is emotionally unable to grasp the mortal danger that approaches.

www.truthdig.com

I have no intention of retiring here.

Really? Where you live in the US or the US period?

 

[22lcidw]

Relax America has survived far worse than these idiot snowflake leftists. 2 weeks max to put down their pathetic uprising.

America has. This isn't that America any more. There are mayors and even governors celebrating the arson, violence and looting. The mayor of our largest city New York is proud of his daughter's arrest for looting. No this isn't America. If you want America be prepared to fight for it.

The sickness is the lifetime Prog white politicians who have sold out everything that even had goodness in it for power and the minority vote. And in this, they have convinced many other white people that they must genuflect to others and are guilty of crimes they did nit do. Of course many of those same people are living their comfortable lives and won't give up any of it.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Chris Hedges is a fine journalist who has too often predicted imminent financial disaster and the collapse of the West. It is certainly possible he is on to something this time, and we are seeing a new, even terminal stage of democracy in the U.S. under Trump — or his opposition. He is correct that a new political alliance where ruling elites, Wall Street, the MIC / Deep Security State combine forces with ragtag aggrieved white nationalists may be emerging. It would be as he describes it. But we are not there yet.

First of all, lacking any economic competence, or program, Trump is allowing the Fed to carry on in as “professional” a manner as possible (for them). Trump is not standing in their way as some Tea Party radicals did at first to the 2008 “bailout” legislation. Not at all. “Crony Capitalism” is being run by the big boys. They know their stuff and will run the country on debt forever If necessary. They are doing it much more “fairly” — LOL! — than Trump would do it. The system itself, even if some “enlightened liberal capitalists” favor minor reforms, inevitably will pass the burden onto the working people.

The situation will decay economically no matter what, and dramatically disintegrate socially if Trump is not decisively beaten in November, but the deepest collapse will not occur until the dollar loses its primacy, and that will most likely happen suddenly and through war. An outside impulse will be needed. This is what I believe Chris Hedges doesn’t get.

The tariffs are nothing. Trump’s “America First” economic plan is nothing. China does not need the U.S. and really does not need the “stage one trade agreement.” If Trump keeps pushing, China will push back. Only war can fully decouple the world.

So far, no section of the ruling elites, no significant sectors of the professional or middle classes, have had the foresight or guts to oppose the MIC. The Europeans are far too weak to stop the U.S., and the Russians and Chinese are tarred by their authoritarian systems, so the U.S. populace will probably be fooled again by talk of wars “for freedom.“

Unfortunately, the U.S. working-class has little power, little anti-imperialist consciousness, and its white component is to a very considerable extent poisoned by populist MAGA illusions. So stopping a war is very unlikely. There is not much hope for revolutionary change, in my opinion, not in the near term at least, even if we do go into a deep Depression.