Germany to send leopard tanks to Ukraine

Ukrainians have a weak spot - NATO assistance, which may suddenly end.
NATO has a weak spot - Ukrainians who will run out.
 
Mobilization in Ukraine continues, tankers are being recruited into Leopard's crews


 
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This will be an interesting escalation.
  • Ukraine will push for deliveries of Western-made 4th generation fighter jets next after winning a bid to secure Western tanks Wednesday, a top adviser for the defense minister told Reuters.
  • Western fighter aircraft would improve Ukraine’s ability to strike Russian targets, experts said.
  • “Before we send major weapon systems like F-16s, I hope we’d do the far easier thing,” Hudson Institute senior fellow Rebeccah Heinrichs told the Daily Caller News Foundation.
“They didn’t want to give us heavy artillery, then they did. They didn’t want to give us HIMARS systems, then they did. They didn’t want to give us tanks, now they’re giving us tanks,” Sak said to Reuters.


“Apart from nuclear weapons, there is nothing left that we will not get,” he added.
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“Our military pilots went to the United States, funds were allocated for the training of our pilots,” Ukrainian Air Force spokesman Yuri Ignat said, according to UkraNews, citing an information agency operated by Ukraine’s defense ministry.

“The type of aircraft, which is likely to be provided to Ukraine, and the corresponding terms of [personnel] training have already been determined,” he added.

The Pentagon said it was not aware of any Ukrainian pilots training in the U.S. on Tuesday.

“Before we send major weapon systems like F-16s, I hope we’d do the far easier thing like simply greenlight the Ukrainians to hit the Iranian terrorists training the Russians on their suicide drones inside the Russian border… We aren’t even doing the easier things,” Heinrichs told the DCNF.

The Department of Defense did not immediately respond to the DCNF’s requests for comment
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The Russians have annihilated thousands of Ukrainian tanks and armored vehicles since the start of the conflict. A 100 tanks will not magically make the Ukrainians capable of doing anything more.
Who will drive these tanks? Kidnapped from the streets Ukrainians or 18-year-old kids? Who will do the maintenance? Who will supply them with ammunition and fuel? At least 3 types of tanks are being sent to Ukraine, how long will it take to train a tank crew for these tanks?
What's next? Fighter jets and NFZ? A nuclear war between Russia and US/NATO?
Ukraine is not capable of winning a conventional war against Russia and US/NATO know it. They are escalating the war because they do not want to accept the inevitable defeat of Ukraine.

The efforts to hide this in Western press are pitiful. The reality is the russians blew up almost all of the tanks the Ukies started with, then blew up almost all of the russian tanks supplied from the Warsaw Pact countries. Round three will be Western tanks. Reinforcing failure.
 
They will smash the russians to fuck. Sooner the better.

Do not overestimate our Leopards. It's a weapon - that's all. What we all need is peace. War in Europe in the third millenium is more worse than only an absurdity.




’s ist Krieg! ’s ist Krieg! O Gottes Engel wehre,
Und rede Du darein!
’s ist leider Krieg – und ich begehre,
Nicht schuld daran zu sein!

Was sollt ich machen, wenn im Schlaf mit Grämen
Und blutig, bleich und blaß,
Die Geister der Erschlagnen zu mir kämen,
Und vor mir weinten, was?

Wenn wackre Männer, die sich Ehre suchten,
Verstümmelt und halb tot
Im Staub sich vor mir wälzten und mir fluchten
In ihrer Todesnot?

Wenn tausend tausend Väter, Mütter, Bräute,
So glücklich vor dem Krieg,
Nun alle elend, alle arme Leute,
Wehklagten über mich?

Wenn Hunger, böse Seuch und ihre Nöten
Freund, Freund und Feind ins Grab
Versammelten, und mir zu Ehren krähten
Von einer Leich herab?

Was hülf mir Kron und Land und Gold und Ehre?
Die könnten mich nicht freun!
’s ist leider Krieg – und ich begehre,
Nicht schuld daran zu sein!


Matthias Claudius, Kriegslied, 1778
 
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At least for EU tanks.

Your Abrams is a copy of the Leopard. By the way: When I hear all this stupid war nonsense which men say then perhaps we should arrest all men and let overtake the species "women" this planet. Then we had pink tanks and it would be much more fun to murder each other.
 
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Bleipriester

In your case it could be a good idea to throw the key of your prison into the Marian Trench and to forget you. Or did you do so on your own, Nazi, when you gave up your ability to think?

 
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The Russians have annihilated thousands of Ukrainian tanks and armored vehicles since the start of the conflict. A 100 tanks will not magically make the Ukrainians capable of doing anything more.
Who will drive these tanks? Kidnapped from the streets Ukrainians or 18-year-old kids? Who will do the maintenance? Who will supply them with ammunition and fuel? At least 3 types of tanks are being sent to Ukraine, how long will it take to train a tank crew for these tanks?
What's next? Fighter jets and NFZ? A nuclear war between Russia and US/NATO?
Ukraine is not capable of winning a conventional war against Russia and US/NATO know it. They are escalating the war because they do not want to accept the inevitable defeat of Ukraine.

The efforts to hide this in Western press are pitiful. The reality is the russians blew up almost all of the tanks the Ukies started with, then blew up almost all of the russian tanks supplied from the Warsaw Pact countries. Round three will be Western tanks. Reinforcing failure.

Undear selfmade enemy mine: Our problem is that Russia will die when it will not end this stupid senseless wrong way of war with the own roots. Russia has not any chance. You will lose yourselve to death and you will also win yourselve to death - or alternatively you will just simple stop and end this war and start to speak with "the Ukraine" how you will be able to help them to rebuild their country.
 
Wouldn't it be funny now if Putin starts dropping tactical nukes on your tanks?!

No. Specially beause it exist not tactical nukes. It exist only nukes. In a scenario of the cold war which I still know this could mean about 750,000,000 killed people within the first three days of world war 3.
 

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