German Tourists Deported From US for Not Booking Hotel

[Dekster]

travelers, including Americans, should expect this level of scrutiny when heading to the EU. Between now and next March they are phasing in implementation of greater scrutiny of people coming in, including fingerprints and preclearance. One of the reports I read this week included providing proof you had a hotel and a flight out booked before you entered.

 

[Unkotare]

German girls now should think twice about visiting the US ....

Eh, we can get cuter girls to visit.

 

[Delldude]

Eh, we can get cuter girls to visit.

They don't shave their armpits.

 

[Seymour Flops]

They don't shave their armpits.

But their tanned all over . . .

 

[Delldude]

You were saying....

What is EES?

The EU’s Entry/Exit System will capture biometric data from non-EU citizens entering the Schengen area (essentially all EU states except Cyprus and Ireland, plus Switzerland, Iceland and Norway). In the same way that visitors are fingerprinted entering the US, travelers to the EU will be fingerprinted when they enter the bloc — and again, when they leave.

EES explained: The EU’s Entry/Exit system will change Europe travel rules. | CNN

lite.cnn.com

 

[Dekster]

That is a law in many other countries. You need to document where you're staying on your immigration form.

US immigration can deny tourists entry if they can't prove they can provide for themselves during their stay. Hotel info is just a way to do it. I have been asked about it when entering other countries, but have never had to prove it. I just basically give them something along the lines of "Hello, we are here as tourists until Saturday staying at X hotel on Main Street and then flying back home on Y airline Saturday evening" and they just say "Have a great vacation" and hand back the passport. Have no idea what all those folks who hold up the line yammering back and forth with them are telling them but some people seem to spend an inordinate amount of time getting through. I just give it all to them at once because some of the time I cannot understand their thick accents so want as few questions as possible.

 

[Zebra]

I dont' think that is a good point at all. I think innocent or guilty people might vehemently deny accusations, or they might quietly deny accusations - regardless of whether they were true or not.

If anything, the business-like way the CPB explained what happened seems not only credible, but professional.

So they dotted the i's correctly in every country but the U.S.?

Sure, I do. But what was "suspicious" about two adult teenage girls coming for a vacation?

Suppose they were not looking for work, but the CBP found them suspicious for some other reason. Before Team Autopen ran the country, we expected our protective agencies to be suspicious. See something, say something, remember?

Like seeing three middle-eastern looking men taking a long flight within the U.S. with no luggage and wearing heavy coats in the summer. Nothing illegal about that, but reason for suspicion.

If further investigation led to them catching a visa violation, and they got booted for that, I'm fine with it. I was in Frankfurt in the '80's when the Bader-Mainhoff kids started blowing up American service people's cars. At first they did it at night, then they started wiring them to blow when the door was opened. So don't tell me that young Germans can never be a threat.

Now, they have millions of Middle-Eastern immigrants that came through Turkey, so maybe that's the kind of "Germans" they were. Supposedly a story about a couple of German beach bunnies and they don't show a picture? Don't you wonder why not?

Lot's of possiblilities, and I have no idea if anything i just suggested is the exacty way it happened. Whichever it was, I'm not going to second guess the CBP on somehting so minor when we finally have federal agencies doing their jobs instead of obsessing of their TDS 24/7.

there is a picture of them
and their names are not Middle Eastern

 

[Seymour Flops]

there is a picture of them
and their names are not Middle Eastern

Yes. I said "maybe," because I wasn't sure.

Cute white girls, which is why there is so much interest in them.

If liberal incels cannot attract American women because they think acting like a woman is the best way to get one, adding these two to the mix won't solve their problem.

 

[Delldude]

there is a picture of them
and their names are not Middle Eastern

From what's been said, they had passport issues.

There are a couple shows on N Geo that are about CPB border encounters of one sort or another. Very good shows. This encounter is very typical of what they deal with daily.

They also go into other countries border operations too. Excellent shows.


A pair of backpacking German teens booted from the US lied about the purpose of their trip, Customs and Border Protection said — but the women claim US officials “twisted” their words to trump up the allegations.

Maria Lepere, 18, and Charlotte Pohl, 19, arrived in Hawaii on March 18 with short-term travel permits ahead of a weeks-long US trip but were detained by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and sent packing back to Germany within hours.

“These travelers were denied entry after attempting to enter the US under false pretenses. One used a Visitor visa, the other the Visa Waiver Program,” CBP officials told The Post Monday.

“Both claimed they were touring California but later admitted they intended to work — something strictly prohibited under US immigration laws for these visas.”

But the women — who were planning to continue on to Los Angeles and then Costa Rica after Hawaii — insisted they were interrogated by CBP for hours, and that transcripts show their words were “twisted” and outright falsified.

German teens who ‘intended to work’ were denied entry to US for traveling ‘under false pretenses’: Customs

Maria Lepere and Charlotte Pohl, 18 and 19, arrived in Hawaii on March 18 with short-term travel permits ahead of weeks-long US trip.

nypost.com

 

[Zebra]

it was not necessary to handcuff them and put them into a prison cell together with real criminals

 

[marvin martian]

I think we got a movie here!

It's already been done

Brokedown Palace (1999) ⭐ 6.4 | Drama, Mystery, Thriller

1h 40m | PG-13

www.imdb.com

 

[Delldude]

it was not necessary to handcuff them and put them into a prison cell together with real criminals

Apparently it's standard procedure for entering the US illegally.

 

[Zebra]

Apparently it's standard procedure for entering the US illegally.

it was not proven ...

 

[Delldude]

it was not proven ...

What wasn't?

You inferring the girls lied,?

 

[Zebra]

What wasn't?

You inferring the girls lied,?

no

they told the truth, but their words were altered

 

[Delldude]

no

they told the truth, but their words were altered

How's that?

 

[Zebra]

How's that?

changed

 

[Zebra]

So the fact that they vehemently denied coming to Hawaii to "work" doesn't count in your mind? Them saying that CBP outright falsified their statements doesn't count?

German teens denied entry to US for traveling ‘under false pretenses’ and ‘intended to work’: Border Patrol

Maria Lepere and Charlotte Pohl, 18 and 19, arrived in Hawaii on March 18 with short-term travel permits ahead of weeks-long US trip.

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“They contained sentences we didn’t actually say,” Pohl said of interrogation transcripts they were sent home with.

“They twisted it to make it seem as if we admitted that we wanted to work illegally in the US,”




Is that a simple recounting of what CBP likely told them when they detained them, or an actual agreement with CBP that they were indeed "suspicious."



You don't have to read it, my point was just to show their photos from an additional news source.

No idea, but people with resources don't need to shop or book ahead of time, which might be the case here. They can just ask their taxi driver to bring them to the nearest 5 star hotel right from the airport. After 5 weeks in Hawaii they were going to go to LA and then Costa Rica. When they were deported they chose Tokyo Japan as their destination. These are not your average 18 year olds getting a $200 allowance every month. No need to ask where they'll be staying for 5 weeks in Hawaii. The answer is anywhere they want.

the transcript contained sentences they did not say

 

[Frankeneinstein]

“These travelers were denied entry after attempting to enter the US under false pretenses. One used a Visitor visa, the other the Visa Waiver Program,” CBP officials told The Post Monday.

“Both claimed they were touring California but later admitted they intended to work — something strictly prohibited under US immigration laws for these visas.”

This was "NEWSWEEKS" fault as they failed to omit this portion of the story.

 

[Zebra]

This was "NEWSWEEKS" fault as they failed to omit this portion of the story.

they say they did not admit such thing