Gaslighting only goes so far
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Concerned American
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Google it fool. If you were current with widely disbursed news over the past month, you wouldn't have exposed yourself for the ignorant fool that you are.You forgot to post a source for this info Mr. educated scholar.
MagicMike
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You're just pulling these claims out of your ass.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Trump's boneheaded tariffs will be a disaster for our economy and there's no good news to offset that.
Quit making shit up. It doesn't help anything or change anything.
Man With A Plan
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I can Mike...I'm just baffled as to why I need to! How do you not know this already?
Man With A Plan
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Do you still get your news by Pony Express out there in New Mexico? Is that why you're so clueless?
yidnar
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Donald Trump is certainly a mastermind at deception and gaslighting a large enough segment of Americans that his many ruses generally get more traction and wind up with more staying power than they ever should have. One can only argue against reality for so long though before even the densest and most clueless, die-hard Trump voter invariably has to notice that the version of reality being presented to them just isn't matching up with the reality of their lives.
Take the recent jobs report for instance. The numbers just weren't what Trump wanted to hear so he just "solved" the problem by firing the person presenting the data.
That may allow him to "look" better but it still doesn't solve the underlying problem that those poor job numbers reflect.
Tens of thousands of unemployed people across the country (including federal workers and contractors that DOGE fired) know they are unemployed no matter what new magical statistics Trump manufactures in the future and who he chooses to present them.
His gaslighting of the jobs numbers does not change anyone's situation one bit.
It is the same with inflation statistics and his tariffs.
Every Econ 101 student learns that tariff costs wind up just being passed onto consumers like an extra sales tax on the goods and services they purchase.
Trump has been told this by all the economists. Yet he gaslights us that somehow HIS tariffs will be an exception to the rules that govern all OTHER tariffs.
He doesn't know why or how, he just thinks he knows this. He gaslights further by continuing to assure us that "billions and billions of dollars are already pouring in" as a result of his tariffs.
But back here in the real world people still have to go shopping. They still have to open their wallets and purses and pay the person at the register and everytime they do it they can see that prices are going up...not coming down like Trump promised.
And the tariffs just took effect this week. The next set of inflation numbers...the post tariff numbers, are going to be grim.
Trump no doubt will gaslight us on that data as well. He might even go ahead and fire the people responsible for compiling those numbers too; but that's not going to lower prices any.
Eventually, many economists are predicting, Trump's economic malfeasance could lead our economy off a cliff straight into a 1929 style depression.
He'll no doubt attempt to gaslight his way out of accountability for that too. It's not like he can ever admit he's wrong about anything. He just spins...and lies...and spins more...and then lies more.
Recent polling though is indicating that all of Trump's gaslighting might be beginning to wear thin. People are beginning to realize that carnival barking and rhetoric isn't helping them pay their bills and/or find new jobs.
We very well may be reaching a tipping point where the vast majority of American voters, including many who previously voted for him, are starting to realize that Trump's empty gaslighting is not improving their lives at all.
A recent Fox survey showed just 44 percent of Americans support the President's handling of the economy, while a crushing 55 percent disapprove. Even more damaging, six out of 10 Americans point the finger directly at Trump for skyrocketing living costs, according to recent polling data.
Fox News delivers brutal breaking alert that will leave Trump furious
Fox News host Jon Scott has delivered a brutal blow to Donald Trump following a new poll which shows the majority of Americans disapprove of the President's economic policieswww.themirror.com
Deplorable Yankee
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Donald Trump is certainly a mastermind at deception and gaslighting a large enough segment of Americans that his many ruses generally get more traction and wind up with more staying power than they ever should have. One can only argue against reality for so long though before even the densest and most clueless, die-hard Trump voter invariably has to notice that the version of reality being presented to them just isn't matching up with the reality of their lives.
Take the recent jobs report for instance. The numbers just weren't what Trump wanted to hear so he just "solved" the problem by firing the person presenting the data.
That may allow him to "look" better but it still doesn't solve the underlying problem that those poor job numbers reflect.
Tens of thousands of unemployed people across the country (including federal workers and contractors that DOGE fired) know they are unemployed no matter what new magical statistics Trump manufactures in the future and who he chooses to present them.
His gaslighting of the jobs numbers does not change anyone's situation one bit.
It is the same with inflation statistics and his tariffs.
Every Econ 101 student learns that tariff costs wind up just being passed onto consumers like an extra sales tax on the goods and services they purchase.
Trump has been told this by all the economists. Yet he gaslights us that somehow HIS tariffs will be an exception to the rules that govern all OTHER tariffs.
He doesn't know why or how, he just thinks he knows this. He gaslights further by continuing to assure us that "billions and billions of dollars are already pouring in" as a result of his tariffs.
But back here in the real world people still have to go shopping. They still have to open their wallets and purses and pay the person at the register and everytime they do it they can see that prices are going up...not coming down like Trump promised.
And the tariffs just took effect this week. The next set of inflation numbers...the post tariff numbers, are going to be grim.
Trump no doubt will gaslight us on that data as well. He might even go ahead and fire the people responsible for compiling those numbers too; but that's not going to lower prices any.
Eventually, many economists are predicting, Trump's economic malfeasance could lead our economy off a cliff straight into a 1929 style depression.
He'll no doubt attempt to gaslight his way out of accountability for that too. It's not like he can ever admit he's wrong about anything. He just spins...and lies...and spins more...and then lies more.
Recent polling though is indicating that all of Trump's gaslighting might be beginning to wear thin. People are beginning to realize that carnival barking and rhetoric isn't helping them pay their bills and/or find new jobs.
We very well may be reaching a tipping point where the vast majority of American voters, including many who previously voted for him, are starting to realize that Trump's empty gaslighting is not improving their lives at all.
A recent Fox survey showed just 44 percent of Americans support the President's handling of the economy, while a crushing 55 percent disapprove. Even more damaging, six out of 10 Americans point the finger directly at Trump for skyrocketing living costs, according to recent polling data.
Fox News delivers brutal breaking alert that will leave Trump furious
Fox News host Jon Scott has delivered a brutal blow to Donald Trump following a new poll which shows the majority of Americans disapprove of the President's economic policies
Concerned American
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Troll on fool.
Marener
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Dunno. Seems like it doesn’t do much for most Americans.
BluesLegend
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LOL Trump basically said, I hate these lying scamming nasty Democrats, who's with me? We all raised our hands and backed Trump for a 2nd term!
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Donald Trump is certainly a mastermind at deception and gaslighting a large enough segment of Americans that his many ruses generally get more traction and wind up with more staying power than they ever should have. One can only argue against reality for so long though before even the densest and most clueless, die-hard Trump voter invariably has to notice that the version of reality being presented to them just isn't matching up with the reality of their lives.
Take the recent jobs report for instance. The numbers just weren't what Trump wanted to hear so he just "solved" the problem by firing the person presenting the data.
That may allow him to "look" better but it still doesn't solve the underlying problem that those poor job numbers reflect.
Tens of thousands of unemployed people across the country (including federal workers and contractors that DOGE fired) know they are unemployed no matter what new magical statistics Trump manufactures in the future and who he chooses to present them.
His gaslighting of the jobs numbers does not change anyone's situation one bit.
It is the same with inflation statistics and his tariffs.
Every Econ 101 student learns that tariff costs wind up just being passed onto consumers like an extra sales tax on the goods and services they purchase.
Trump has been told this by all the economists. Yet he gaslights us that somehow HIS tariffs will be an exception to the rules that govern all OTHER tariffs.
He doesn't know why or how, he just thinks he knows this. He gaslights further by continuing to assure us that "billions and billions of dollars are already pouring in" as a result of his tariffs.
But back here in the real world people still have to go shopping. They still have to open their wallets and purses and pay the person at the register and everytime they do it they can see that prices are going up...not coming down like Trump promised.
And the tariffs just took effect this week. The next set of inflation numbers...the post tariff numbers, are going to be grim.
Trump no doubt will gaslight us on that data as well. He might even go ahead and fire the people responsible for compiling those numbers too; but that's not going to lower prices any.
Eventually, many economists are predicting, Trump's economic malfeasance could lead our economy off a cliff straight into a 1929 style depression.
He'll no doubt attempt to gaslight his way out of accountability for that too. It's not like he can ever admit he's wrong about anything. He just spins...and lies...and spins more...and then lies more.
Recent polling though is indicating that all of Trump's gaslighting might be beginning to wear thin. People are beginning to realize that carnival barking and rhetoric isn't helping them pay their bills and/or find new jobs.
We very well may be reaching a tipping point where the vast majority of American voters, including many who previously voted for him, are starting to realize that Trump's empty gaslighting is not improving their lives at all.
A recent Fox survey showed just 44 percent of Americans support the President's handling of the economy, while a crushing 55 percent disapprove. Even more damaging, six out of 10 Americans point the finger directly at Trump for skyrocketing living costs, according to recent polling data.
Fox News delivers brutal breaking alert that will leave Trump furious
Fox News host Jon Scott has delivered a brutal blow to Donald Trump following a new poll which shows the majority of Americans disapprove of the President's economic policies
Man With A Plan
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Yeah...just the biggest tax cut in American history...not much... (eye roll)
Mac1958
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His appeal, despite everything that he is and does, will be studied for a LONG time.
It seems like the electorate will vote for an individual either (a) because they connect with that person politically, or (b) because they only take a passing interest in politics and they vote (for any candidate) on comparitively shallow reasoning.
History is a guide, and the actual words of his followers are a guide. His particular form of absolutely shameless, hyperbolic, over-the-top gaslighting -- practiced to this degree in politics by NO ONE, EVER -- appears to be part of his appeal. His followers have been convinced to eschew all faith in our institutions, and he's more than willing to feed into that. He is their giant **** YOU to a system they've been convinced has so terribly victimized them. They just no longer care, at all, about how it's done.
As for those who appear to be deluded into thinking he's brilliant or honest or serious or godly or strong -- that's just a measure of how desperate they have been for a savior. They've given up. And amazingly, they've handed their lives to a guy and a group of people who played a role in what made them give up. There is no reasoning with that.
SeaMajor7
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The IRONY continues...
Man With A Plan
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With all due respect, Mac? Our "institutions" have been shown to be corrupted. The left has done things in the last eight plus years that would make Richard Nixon blush with shame and the people are tired of it. THAT was the giant **** you to America! Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Schiff, Pelosi and the Biden family? There is a level of sleaze in these people that we've NEVER seen before!
Then they watched the Main Stream Media tell lie after lie to cover for those people.
You want to understand why people like Trump? You may not like him...you may not agree with his policies...but he's not a lying two faced piece of shit like all of the above!
Mac1958
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So you believe he is an honest man?
Man With A Plan
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For a politician? He literally might be the only "honest" person left in Washington! He doesn't care what you think of him, Mac. He knows the Main Stream Media hates him. He doesn't care. He believes in his policies and he does what he told you he'd do when he ran for office.
Man With A Plan
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Let's cut right to the chase, Nuthin'. What do you think is in the Epstein file? Before you answer that...think about it logically. If there was something in there that hurts Trump do you honestly think that the Biden DOJ wouldn't have released it to the media a year ago? Give me a logical reason why that never happened?
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