Gaslighting only goes so far

[MagicMike]

Did you miss the whole part where the THREAT of tariffs were enough to get the trade deals that Trump was looking for, Mike? Oh, let me guess...they didn't talk about that on MSNBC? LOL

I'll be checking in with you over the next few monrhs to see how Trump's tarriflation is working for you. You are quickly going to reach the point soon where you can't even gaslight it anymore.

 

[Concerned American]

Whataboutism and gaslighting are not going to make Trump's tarriflation any easier to bear in the coming months.

More false predictions. Let me know when you come up with something that makes sense. Never mind--it is beyond your capacity.

 

[Man With A Plan]

I'll be checking in with you over the next few monrhs to see how Trump's tarriflation is working for you. You are quickly going to reach the point soon where you can't even gaslight it anymore.

A few months, Mike? I look forward to it! Get your excuses ready now, Big Man...you're gonna need 'em!

 

[MagicMike]

A few months, Mike? I look forward to it! Get your excuses ready now, Big Man...you're gonna need 'em!

A recent Economist-YouGov survey revealed Wednesday that President Donald Trump's approval among Republicans and Republican-leaning voters has slipped markedly — from 92 percent in January down to 83 percent this week, marking a 9‑point decline.

Axios highlighted in a report published Wednesday that economists and pollsters alike point to economic anxiety as a key factor behind dwindling confidence.

"The decline is driven by a 17-point plunge among independents, who give the president a 29 percent approval rating. His numbers with the group have never been lower," the report said.

'Never been lower': Trump's approval among Republicans rapidly declining due to this issue

A recent Economist-YouGov survey revealed Wednesday that President Donald Trump's approval among Republicans and Republican-leaning voters has slipped markedly — from 92 percent in January down to 83 percent this week, marking a 9‑point decline.Axios highlighted in a report published Wednesday...

www.alternet.org

 

[Concerned American]

A recent Economist-YouGov survey revealed Wednesday that President Donald Trump's approval among Republicans and Republican-leaning voters has slipped markedly — from 92 percent in January down to 83 percent this week, marking a 9‑point decline.

Axios highlighted in a report published Wednesday that economists and pollsters alike point to economic anxiety as a key factor behind dwindling confidence.

"The decline is driven by a 17-point plunge among independents, who give the president a 29 percent approval rating. His numbers with the group have never been lower," the report said.

'Never been lower': Trump's approval among Republicans rapidly declining due to this issue

A recent Economist-YouGov survey revealed Wednesday that President Donald Trump's approval among Republicans and Republican-leaning voters has slipped markedly — from 92 percent in January down to 83 percent this week, marking a 9‑point decline.Axios highlighted in a report published Wednesday...

www.alternet.org

Since you put so much stock in polls, maybe you should be more concerned with the democrats current 19% approval rating. LMAO.

 

[Marener]

Since you put so much stock in polls, maybe you should be more concerned with the democrats current 19% approval rating. LMAO.

They’re still winning every generic congressional ballot poll, which is why Republicans are rushing to gerrymander more.

 

[Man With A Plan]

A recent Economist-YouGov survey revealed Wednesday that President Donald Trump's approval among Republicans and Republican-leaning voters has slipped markedly — from 92 percent in January down to 83 percent this week, marking a 9‑point decline.

Axios highlighted in a report published Wednesday that economists and pollsters alike point to economic anxiety as a key factor behind dwindling confidence.

"The decline is driven by a 17-point plunge among independents, who give the president a 29 percent approval rating. His numbers with the group have never been lower," the report said.

'Never been lower': Trump's approval among Republicans rapidly declining due to this issue

A recent Economist-YouGov survey revealed Wednesday that President Donald Trump's approval among Republicans and Republican-leaning voters has slipped markedly — from 92 percent in January down to 83 percent this week, marking a 9‑point decline.Axios highlighted in a report published Wednesday...

www.alternet.org

Axios? Funny, Mike...good stuff. When was the last time Axios ran something that wasn't critical of Trump? Like never? I'm sure that there IS some "economic anxiety" but my guess is the anxiousness is coming from those same economists that assured the left that Trump's tariffs would crash the economy by the summer and are now seeing one country after another give Trump better deals and one company after another announcing huge investments to be made in the US! That anxiety will ratchet up with every billion dollars that comes into the US via tariffs and I imagine will be reaching the frantic level by the start of 2026!

 

[Man With A Plan]

They’re still winning every generic congressional ballot poll, which is why Republicans are rushing to gerrymander more.

You keep telling yourself that, Marener! Do you remember the Iowa poll that had Kamala beating Trump? How excited you got over that? Better put on your big boy pants...the mid-terms could get really ugly for Democrats.

 

[Marener]

You keep telling yourself that, Marener! Do you remember the Iowa poll that had Kamala beating Trump? How excited you got over that? Better put on your big boy pants...the mid-terms could get really ugly for Democrats.

It’s easy for any one poll to be wrong.

But Dems lead EVERY poll.

2026 Generic Congressional Vote | RealClearPolling

2026 Generic Congressional Vote | RealClearPolling

www.realclearpolling.com

They could get ugly for Dems, sure. But Reps actually have to deliver in the next year and so far they haven’t done much.

 

[MagicMike]

Axios? Funny, Mike...good stuff. When was the last time Axios ran something that wasn't critical of Trump? Like never? I'm sure that there IS some "economic anxiety" but my guess is the anxiousness is coming from those same economists that assured the left that Trump's tariffs would crash the economy by the summer

Try to keep up.
Those predictions about crashing the economy by summer were put on hold after Trump's TACO when he put an extension on the implementation of those tariffs until this month.
In other words Trump was too chicken to start the tariffs five or six months ago so he put the start date around the first of August....about a week ago.

and are now seeing one country after another give Trump better deals and one company after another announcing huge investments to be made in the US!

You are gaslighting with cult propaganda.
Do you have a link to any of these countries or businesses that are supposed to announcing better deals?
How about a list of any companies that have announced these "huge investments?"
No you cannot provide them. You will never find any records on them. Know why?
They don't exist.
You don't really know what you're talking about. You are just parroting what you've heard from the Trump press releases.
It's fake news.

That anxiety will ratchet up with every billion dollars that comes into the US via tariffs and I imagine will be reaching the frantic level by the start of 2026!

Settle down snowflake.
Remember how excited you got the last time he promised you something "special" and then let you down.
Maybe don't be such a sucker.

 

[petro]

TL/DR

Just stick with Orange Man Bad.

 

[Invisibleflash]

Donald Trump is certainly a mastermind at deception and gaslighting a large enough segment of Americans that his many ruses generally get more traction and wind up with more staying power than they ever should have. One can only argue against reality for so long though before even the densest and most clueless, die-hard Trump voter invariably has to notice that the version of reality being presented to them just isn't matching up with the reality of their lives.
Take the recent jobs report for instance. The numbers just weren't what Trump wanted to hear so he just "solved" the problem by firing the person presenting the data.
That may allow him to "look" better but it still doesn't solve the underlying problem that those poor job numbers reflect.
Tens of thousands of unemployed people across the country (including federal workers and contractors that DOGE fired) know they are unemployed no matter what new magical statistics Trump manufactures in the future and who he chooses to present them.
His gaslighting of the jobs numbers does not change anyone's situation one bit.
It is the same with inflation statistics and his tariffs.
Every Econ 101 student learns that tariff costs wind up just being passed onto consumers like an extra sales tax on the goods and services they purchase.
Trump has been told this by all the economists. Yet he gaslights us that somehow HIS tariffs will be an exception to the rules that govern all OTHER tariffs.
He doesn't know why or how, he just thinks he knows this. He gaslights further by continuing to assure us that "billions and billions of dollars are already pouring in" as a result of his tariffs.
But back here in the real world people still have to go shopping. They still have to open their wallets and purses and pay the person at the register and everytime they do it they can see that prices are going up...not coming down like Trump promised.
And the tariffs just took effect this week. The next set of inflation numbers...the post tariff numbers, are going to be grim.
Trump no doubt will gaslight us on that data as well. He might even go ahead and fire the people responsible for compiling those numbers too; but that's not going to lower prices any.
Eventually, many economists are predicting, Trump's economic malfeasance could lead our economy off a cliff straight into a 1929 style depression.
He'll no doubt attempt to gaslight his way out of accountability for that too. It's not like he can ever admit he's wrong about anything. He just spins...and lies...and spins more...and then lies more.
Recent polling though is indicating that all of Trump's gaslighting might be beginning to wear thin. People are beginning to realize that carnival barking and rhetoric isn't helping them pay their bills and/or find new jobs.
We very well may be reaching a tipping point where the vast majority of American voters, including many who previously voted for him, are starting to realize that Trump's empty gaslighting is not improving their lives at all.

A recent Fox survey showed just 44 percent of Americans support the President's handling of the economy, while a crushing 55 percent disapprove. Even more damaging, six out of 10 Americans point the finger directly at Trump for skyrocketing living costs, according to recent polling data.

Fox News delivers brutal breaking alert that will leave Trump furious

Fox News host Jon Scott has delivered a brutal blow to Donald Trump following a new poll which shows the majority of Americans disapprove of the President's economic policies

www.themirror.com

 

[MagicMike]

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What exactly does your little cartoon mean?

 

[yidnar]

Did you miss the whole part where the THREAT of tariffs were enough to get the trade deals that Trump was looking for, Mike? Oh, let me guess...they didn't talk about that on MSNBC? LOL

he probably gets most of his news from Colbert and the View ..

 

[yidnar]

What exactly does your little cartoon mean?

you cant figure it out ! LOL !

 

[Man With A Plan]

It’s easy for any one poll to be wrong.

But Dems lead EVERY poll.

2026 Generic Congressional Vote | RealClearPolling

2026 Generic Congressional Vote | RealClearPolling

www.realclearpolling.com

They could get ugly for Dems, sure. But Reps actually have to deliver in the next year and so far they haven’t done much.

Ah, did you miss the part where they passed the Big Beautiful Bill, Marener?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Try to keep up.
Those predictions about crashing the economy by summer were put on hold after Trump's TACO when he put an extension on the implementation of those tariffs until this month.
In other words Trump was too chicken to start the tariffs five or six months ago so he put the start date around the first of August....about a week ago.

You are gaslighting with cult propaganda.
Do you have a link to any of these countries or businesses that are supposed to announcing better deals?
How about a list of any companies that have announced these "huge investments?"
No you cannot provide them. You will never find any records on them. Know why?
They don't exist.
You don't really know what you're talking about. You are just parroting what you've heard from the Trump press releases.
It's fake news.

Settle down snowflake.
Remember how excited you got the last time he promised you something "special" and then let you down.
Maybe don't be such a sucker.

Wow...what outlet are you getting your news from, Mike? You don't know anything about any countries agreeing to new trade deals? You don't know anything about companies agreeing to invest Billions in the US? Where do you get your news? I'm seriously curious.

 

[Concerned American]

Try to keep up.
Those predictions about crashing the economy by summer were put on hold after Trump's TACO when he put an extension on the implementation of those tariffs until this month.
In other words Trump was too chicken to start the tariffs five or six months ago so he put the start date around the first of August....about a week ago.

You are gaslighting with cult propaganda.
Do you have a link to any of these countries or businesses that are supposed to announcing better deals?
How about a list of any companies that have announced these "huge investments?"
No you cannot provide them. You will never find any records on them. Know why?
They don't exist.
You don't really know what you're talking about. You are just parroting what you've heard from the Trump press releases.
It's fake news.

Settle down snowflake.
Remember how excited you got the last time he promised you something "special" and then let you down.
Maybe don't be such a sucker.

Educate yourself or STFU.
Several companies have announced significant billion-dollar investments in the U.S. for 2025, including Apple, NVIDIA, and IBM, each committing around $500 billion, $500 billion, and $150 billion respectively. Other notable investments include Micron Technology with $200 billion and Johnson & Johnson with $55 billion, aimed at enhancing manufacturing and technology in the country.

 

[MagicMike]

Educate yourself or STFU.
Several companies have announced significant billion-dollar investments in the U.S. for 2025, including Apple, NVIDIA, and IBM, each committing around $500 billion, $500 billion, and $150 billion respectively. Other notable investments include Micron Technology with $200 billion and Johnson & Johnson with $55 billion, aimed at enhancing manufacturing and technology in the country.

You forgot to post a source for this info Mr. educated scholar.

 

[MagicMike]

Wow...what outlet are you getting your news from, Mike? You don't know anything about any countries agreeing to new trade deals? You don't know anything about companies agreeing to invest Billions in the US? Where do you get your news? I'm seriously curious.

Apparently you don't know anything about this either (beyond what you've heard Trump say) because you are unable to post a credible link confirming any of rhis.