Further proof global warming is a hoax!

[OKTexas]

You don't need to respect the science and the consensus of the world's climatologists and of virtually all the world's nations concerning the consequences of millions of tonnes of industrial wastes being spewed into the atmosphere if your ideological dogma makes acceptance of the reality a taboo.

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What is a pre-industrial climate and why does it matter?


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Your appeal to the masses is falling flat as hell commie. Is that graph based on raw data or data that has been adjusted by one of the cardinals in the church of AWG? And who are you freaks to say the pre-industrial climate was in any way optimal? Have you have any clue how much wood and coal was burned?

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[OKTexas]

Who is "we"???? China has nearly 2 times as much emissions than the USA and are building more coal power plants.
China is building six times more new coal plants than other countries, report finds.
A new report finds that last year China permitted the equivalent of two coal plants per week. China's renewable sector is also booming.
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Sounds like you are China lover excusing THEM for doing 2 times as much CO2 emissions in less than 50 years compared to the USA in 100 years !
Now there are several totally less expensive options than EVs.

A)Have you ever heard of Carbon capture and storage (CCS), is a process in which a relatively pure stream of carbon dioxide (CO2) from industrial sources is separated, treated and transported to a long-term storage location. Carbon capture and storage - Wikipedia

B)CO2 can be used to produce fuels and chemical intermediates through several conversion routes but require significant energy input.
The chief cost factor is typically electricity, accounting for between 40-70% of the production costs, and hence very low average grid electricity prices are required for CO2-derived methanol and methane to be competitive,

Putting CO2 to Use – Analysis - IEA

Putting CO2 to Use - Analysis and key findings. A report by the International Energy Agency.

www.iea.org

So Electricity is the biggest COST!!! Wow...so the cost of EV conversions of just Trucks in the USA of building 33,153 nuclear power plants will be definitely more than using CO2 to produce fuels!!! People... there are some truly ignorant people in CHARGE!!!

These two solutions to reducing CO2 are combined totally less expensive i.e.
So AGAIN if 80% of the 166 million private trucks or 132 million are EVs and each truck at 100,000 average miles per truck/ year
source:How Many Miles Do Truckers Drive a Year?
Each truck average 1.89 kWh per Mile Per Truck : Fact: Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
Lets do the math: 132 million trucks at 100,000 miles/year/truck equals 13,200,000,000,000 miles.
13,200,000,000,000 miles at 1.89 kWh per mile or 24,948,000,000,000 kWh and that's just EV Trucks in the USA!
Right NOW....11,070 power plants generate 4,165,030,000,000 kWh or per power plant: 376,244,806 kWh each per year.
FACT: Electricity generation, capacity, and sales in the United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
FACT: One power plant at $752,489,612 will generate 376,244,806 kWh per year.
So how many more nuclear power plants will have to be built (if EVEN at a 50% error factor),JUST for EV trucks total usage of 12,474,000,000,000 kWh?
Divide 12,474,000,000,000 kWh by 376,244,806 kWh generated per power plant, or an additional 33,153 nuclear power plants have to be built!
33,153 NEW nuclear power plants at the cost of $752,489,612 EACH plant or total of $24,948,000,000,000!
Just half of the cost to build 33,153 NEW power plants to provide JUST USA EV Trucks could be used to further develop either of the above 2 opportunities!

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Why don't they combine all the EU countries, they don't list the US by State.

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[schmidlap]

Your appeal to the masses is falling flat as hell commie. Is that graph based on raw data or data that has been adjusted by one of the cardinals in the church of AWG? And who are you freaks to say the pre-industrial climate was in any way optimal? Have you have any clue how much wood and coal was burned?

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The ideological paranoia that induces anthropological climate change denial (as well as election denial) must have its victims in a constant state of rage.

The world progresses as they sputter and fume, wallowing in their baseless dogma.

Just as no one is contesting the results of the 2020 election in any legislative body or court anywhere in the land in any venue where credible evidence is demanded, no nation or scientific authority anywhere on earth is refusing to acknowledge the scientific reality.

 

[EMH]

must have its victims in a constant state of rage

You are the one spazzing out, fruitcake fascist communist whatever.

All we do is POST DATA that refutes the BULLSHIT you PARROT...

 

[Crick]

You are the one spazzing out, fruitcake fascist communist whatever.

All we do is POST DATA that refutes the BULLSHIT you PARROT...

The amount of data YOU have posted here wouldn't cover my pinkie nail.

 

[OKTexas]

The ideological paranoia that induces anthropological climate change denial (as well as election denial) must have its victims in a constant state of rage.

The world progresses as they sputter and fume, wallowing in their baseless dogma.

Just as no one is contesting the results of the 2020 election in any legislative body or court anywhere in the land in any venue where credible evidence is demanded, no nation or scientific authority anywhere on earth is refusing to acknowledge the scientific reality.

Wow, another appeal to the masses, have you ever had an original thought in your life? Nah, you're just another one of those commiebots.

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[Shareprofit]

You can't control the weather. Duh! Idiots.

A 5 year old's understanding of CC.

 

[EMH]

The amount of data YOU have posted here wouldn't cover my pinkie nail.

LOL!!

What about the highly correlated satellite and balloon data?

What about the fact that the 1940s were the strongest decade ever recorded for canes?

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

My side just needs data. Your side has no data, it just has FUDGE...

 

[schmidlap]

Wow, another appeal to the masses, have you ever had an original thought in your life? Nah, you're just another one of those commiebots.

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I am not concerned about the residue of climate change deniers whose ideological dogma makes science anathema to them.

Recognition of the reality is now virtually-universal among nations and scientific bodies, and it is a matter of how expeditiously necessary remedial measures will be adopted.

 

[expat_panama]

... Nobody is willing to say what the average temperature of the earth was in 1880 and every decade since.

...That is absolutely untrue. NOAA, NASA, JMA, Berkely Earth, HadCRU have ALL published temperature data back that far and their methods are completely transparent....

Wonderful! So please tell us, what was the average temperature of the earth in 1880 and what was it ever decade since. Remember we're talking temperatures here (like what we got w/ the sun) not "anomalies" or such. Real temperatures.

 

[EMH]

I am not concerned about the residue of climate change deniers whose ideological dogma makes science anathema to them.

Recognition of the reality is now virtually-universal among nations and scientific bodies, and it is a matter of how expeditiously necessary remedial measures will be adopted.

Translation - evidence matters not, pushing higher taxes and bigger government over FUDGE and FRAUD does

Sick fucking treasonous sub human leech you are...

 

[OKTexas]

I am not concerned about the residue of climate change deniers whose ideological dogma makes science anathema to them.

Recognition of the reality is now virtually-universal among nations and scientific bodies, and it is a matter of how expeditiously necessary remedial measures will be adopted.

So tell the class, what EXACTLY, in YOUR assessment needs to be done and what will it cost? I don't want to hear canned commie talking points either. Use YOUR own words, if you're capable.

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[schmidlap]

Translation - evidence matters not, pushing higher taxes and bigger government over FUDGE and FRAUD does

Sick fucking treasonous sub human leech you are...

You appear to be in a tizzy because not a single nation on earth, nor a single scientific body, is pandering to the crackpot climate change deniers. The overwhelming empirical data confirming the reality of the impact of industrial emissions on climate has vanquished the ideologically-driven dogma.

 

[schmidlap]

So tell the class, what EXACTLY, in YOUR assessment needs to be done and what will it cost? I don't want to hear canned commie talking points either. Use YOUR own words, if you're capable.

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I have not appointed myself to remedy the situation, nor would I.

I recognize that virtually every nation on earth has acknowledged anthropogenic climate change, and its mitigation will be achieved by implementing remedial measures recognized as being effective by the scientific community.

Ideological paranoia toward virtually every nation on earth and the toward the scientific community will not change that.

 

[EMH]

the overwhelming empirical data

shows

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the Oceans
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO BREAKOUT in Canes
NO Ocean Rise

What your side has is FUDGE, and you are TOO STUPID to understand the difference between FUDGE and DATA.

 

[schmidlap]

shows

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the Oceans
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO BREAKOUT in Canes
NO Ocean Rise

What your side has is FUDGE, and you are TOO STUPID to understand the difference between FUDGE and DATA.

Your ideological dogma does not comport with the empirical data.

If you intend to debate NASA or the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, be sure to conduct yourself with a modicum of civility - and wear pants.

 

[EMH]

If you intend to debate NASA

NASA tends to post DATA....

NASA Study: Mass Gains of Antarctic Ice Sheet Greater than Losses

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

www.nasa.gov

the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.


Which BUSTS the FRAUD and FUDGE of the IPCC

"The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some..."


SERIOUS FUDGE BAKING FRAUD ONGOING AT IPCC

 

[schmidlap]

NASA tends to post DATA....

NASA Study: Mass Gains of Antarctic Ice Sheet Greater than Losses

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

www.nasa.gov

the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.


Which BUSTS the FRAUD and FUDGE of the IPCC

"The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some..."


SERIOUS FUDGE BAKING FRAUD ONGOING AT IPCC

You tell 'em!
Systematically annihilate NASA'a recognizing that

• While Earth’s climate has changed throughout its history, the current warming is happening at a rate not seen in the past 10,000 years.
• According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), "Since systematic scientific assessments began in the 1970s, the influence of human activity on the warming of the climate system has evolved from theory to established fact."1
• Scientific information taken from natural sources (such as ice cores, rocks, and tree rings) and from modern equipment (like satellites and instruments) all show the signs of a changing climate.
• From global temperature rise to melting ice sheets, the evidence of a warming planet abounds.

Climate Change Evidence: How Do We Know?

The rate of change since the mid-20th century is unprecedented over millennia.

climate.nasa.gov

 

[mamooth]

No, but in science, if a theory is not falsifiable,

And that's why we know you're a pseudoscience-babbling political kook. Your idiot cult theories can't be falsified. That's because they're entirely religious in nature. I know. I've asked many times, and none of the denier fanatics here has ever been able to list something that would falsify their religious beliefs.

In contrast, AGW theory is real science, so it can be falsified in many ways. We've listed those ways here before many times.

Only the most desperate cult liars pretend AGW theory can't be falsified. That's you, a devoted propagandist for TheGloryOfTheParty and TheTriumphOfFascism.

 

[westwall]

And that's why we know you're a pseudoscience-babbling political kook. Your idiot cult theories can't be falsified. That's because they're entirely religious in nature. I know. I've asked many times, and none of the denier fanatics here has ever been able to list something that would falsify their religious beliefs.

In contrast, AGW theory is real science, so it can be falsified in many ways. We've listed those ways here before many times.

Only the most desperate cult liars pretend AGW theory can't be falsified. That's you, a devoted propagandist for TheGloryOfTheParty and TheTriumphOfFascism.

AGW theory, who's leading scientists say that their experiments need not be repeatable.

It takes a special breed of stupid to still believe what they say.

Hello stupid.