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The first six were GOP candidates in 2000
The next six were GOP candidates in 2004
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The first six were GOP candidates in 2000
The next six were GOP candidates in 2004
JoeB131
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Blah, blah, blah.
If Romney were a strong candidate, the Establishment wouldn't need to cheat.
He wouldn't STILL be mired at less than 25% in the polls a week before the first contest.
A WEEK.
A couple bad primaries, and the establishment knows that Romney is five minutes from repeating his 2008 fail.
So screw that... let's rig the game by making the only other choice the crazy guy. Yeah. That'll get the base enthusiastic.
Romney is going to lose more states than McCain did.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
The first six were GOP candidates in 2000
The next six were GOP candidates in 2004
Oh, is thatwhat Urkel was going for?
Actually, the first six were 2008, the second Five were 2000.
I do actually think that the quality of candidates this year has declined. Nobody thought Romney was a good candidate 4 years ago, and he's the Establishment choice now? Really?
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bigrebnc1775
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Ron Paul has nothing in common with the list of names you have him in.
The first six were GOP candidates in 2000
The next six were GOP candidates in 2004
Yes and they somehow against all odds and the strigent requirements set in place for getting your name on the ballot got in done in Virginia.
They all put their pants on one leg at a time?
The first six were GOP candidates in 2000
The next six were GOP candidates in 2004
Oh, is thatwhat Urkel was going for?
Actually, the first six were 2008, the second Five were 2000.
I do actually think that the quality of candidates this year has declined. Nobody thought Romney was a good candidate 4 years ago, and he's the Establishment choice now? Really?
Nobody thought Romney was a good candidate 4 years ago?? You need to check your facts, he was the darling of conservatives 4 years ago, Rush Limbaugh included, now he is not conservative enough and nothing absolutely nothing has changed with Mitt Romney, only Obamacare. The only thing Romney's and Obama's has in common is the mandate, that's it and personally I am for a state mandate because you can not wish "personal responsibility" true and as long as the responsible are paying for the healthcare of the irresponsible there will be no change. They will continue to let you and I flip the bill.
Establishment??????????????? Romney has less government experience than any other candidate only 4 years as governor of Ma, Rick Perry has the most, a life long government employee, 10+ years as governor of Texas, next is Ron Paul with 25+ years, then comes Newt Gingrich with 20 years in congress, followed by Rick Santorum with 12, Michelle Bachman with 12 years as a state senator 5+ years as a US congresswomen, then Huntsman 2 term governor of Utah resigned in his second term to become ambassador to China under the Obama administration. Who is establishment here? What do you consider establishment??
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Oh yes he does, he ran as a Republican Presidential candidate with the others on that list.
bigrebnc1775
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WOW is that the best you can come up with?It's more than you came up with which was nada.
Then the state of Missouri must have cheated also, because Newt just forgot to file for that state's primary ballot, so he is not on that ballot either. Those nasty cheater states, following their state's election laws, shame on them, it's just not fair. Whaaaaaaaaaa.
Newt Gingrich missing candidate from Missouri primary ballot - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com
JoeB131
Diamond Member
I keep explaining this to you, but you are like some kind of high-functioning 'tard who doesn't get it.
4 years ago, nobody liked Romney. Rush Limpballs didn't endorse him until after Huckabee won Iowa. Huckabee scared the shit out of the establishment because he had some crazy idea that the central message of Christianity was not "Jesus wanted tax cuts for rich people".
So the establishment, which really isn't that conservative, after realizing Rudy "Noun-Verb-9/11" Guiliani wasn't cutting it, got behind Romney. Until they realized that he wasn't cutting it, either. Then they got behind McCain. Limpballs didn't get behind him because he said terrible things about McCain in 2000, and he couldn't walk that back.
The thing is, the "irresponsible" aren't the problem. The spiraliing out of control of health costs are. Most of those who don't get insurance don't really need it. They are young, healthy and can probably pay most of their problems out of pocket.
ObamaCare and RomneyCare just force them into the system to prop up the profits of Big Insurance. That it's the state of Federal government doing it is irrelevent to the point. You are asking the young who don't need insurance to prop up the cost of those of us who do due to age. If that's all you are really up to, I'd rather have the Feds do it because at least then it will be uniform.
Who the sell-outs in Washington want.
Romney isn't a Career Politician because he LOSES elections. In fact, he's only won on election in his entire life. Against a non-entity who doesn't even have her picture in her Wikipedia article, that's how much of a nobody she was.
His inability to get people to vote for him isn't a merit. It's should be a big warning flag.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Then the state of Missouri must have cheated also, because Newt just forgot to file for that state's primary ballot, so he is not on that ballot either. Those nasty cheater states, following their state's election laws, shame on them, it's just not fair. Whaaaaaaaaaa.
Newt Gingrich missing candidate from Missouri primary ballot - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com
You left out the part where they stated that the MO contest doesn't pick the delegates to the convention. It's just essentially a large straw poll. The delegates for MO are picked by a caucus.
Oh, wait, that's a silly thing called a "FACT".
bigrebnc1775
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It's more than you came up with which was nada.
Other than they are males you stupid fuck Paul has nothing in comon with the list.
WorldWatcher
Platinum Member
Again with the cheat?
Please explain how Romney cheated by somehow forcing the other candidates not even to submit signatures and by other candidates not submitting enough qualifying signatures under the law? Gingrich and Perry could have submitted 500,000 signatures each, but if they didn't have 400 from each congressional district then they are the ones that did comply with the law. (Which I suspect Gingrich didn't comply with since he was holding rallies in the D.C. burbs just days before the submission deadline.)
Why is it so hard for you to admit that some candidates didn't even submit signatures and other didn't comply with the law?
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paperview
Life is Good
I toldja. The guy is whackadoodle.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Why should an un-elected body be able to determine who is on the ballot or even set an arbitrary number?
The amusing thing to me is that they took this effort when it probably wasn't necessary. Probably most of the candidates they excluded will be out of the hunt by March, anyway. But they felt the need to change the rules halfway through on technicalities.
I remember the Home Opener for the Bears vs. Lions in 2010. The Lions player had made a touchdown, but the ref called it incomplete because he took his hand off the ball AFTER the play had been completed but before the whistle blew. The Lions should have won that game. It was a cheat.
No one respects a cheat.
If the voters of Virginia decide that they want Romney over Gingrich, you won't get a complaint from me. But they should be given that choice. Not an arbitrary board of party hacks trying to make it easier for Romney because they know he's a weak candidate.
WorldWatcher
Platinum Member
So how is it cheating when the Virginia State Board of Election publishes the requriements for candidates?
Deadlines, Duties and
Ballot Access Requirements
Presidential Primary Election
Tuesday, March 6, 2012
Thursday, December 22, 2011, by 5:00 PM , § 24.2-544 B
Deadline for presidential primary petitions and the
combined Consent/Declaration of Candidacy to be filed
with the State Board of Elections. The petitions must be
delivered in sealed containers to which is attached a
sworn statement and, if applicable, a list of delegates and
alternate delegates. See Ballot Access Requirements
in this bulletin for details.
combined Consent/Declaration of Candidacy to be filed
with the State Board of Elections. The petitions must be
delivered in sealed containers to which is attached a
sworn statement and, if applicable, a list of delegates and
alternate delegates. See Ballot Access Requirements
in this bulletin for details.
Ballot Access Requirements
Petition Requirements
§ 24.2-545
Must be on the form prescribed by the State Board of
Elections (copy enclosed). It is suggested that the candidate
or group complete the top portion of the petition form and then
print or photocopy as many copies of the form as needed.
The form may not be altered in any way.
Must be signed by not less than 10,000 qualified voters in
Virginia, including at least 400 qualified voters from each of
Virginia=s eleven congressional districts, who attest that they
intend to participate in the primary of the same political party
as the candidate named on the petition.
Because many people who are not registered to vote will sign
a petition, it is recommended that 15,000 - 20,000 signatures
be obtained with at least 700 signatures from each
congressional district.
Must provide the true signature, the printed full name and the
full resident address of each qualified voter and the date each
signed the petition.
Must, on each page, provide an affidavit signed under oath by
the person who circulated it that s/he personally witnessed the
affixing of the signature of each voter on the page and that
s/he is registered, or eligible to be registered, to vote in
Virginia.
Elections (copy enclosed). It is suggested that the candidate
or group complete the top portion of the petition form and then
print or photocopy as many copies of the form as needed.
The form may not be altered in any way.
Must be signed by not less than 10,000 qualified voters in
Virginia, including at least 400 qualified voters from each of
Virginia=s eleven congressional districts, who attest that they
intend to participate in the primary of the same political party
as the candidate named on the petition.
Because many people who are not registered to vote will sign
a petition, it is recommended that 15,000 - 20,000 signatures
be obtained with at least 700 signatures from each
congressional district.
Must provide the true signature, the printed full name and the
full resident address of each qualified voter and the date each
signed the petition.
Must, on each page, provide an affidavit signed under oath by
the person who circulated it that s/he personally witnessed the
affixing of the signature of each voter on the page and that
s/he is registered, or eligible to be registered, to vote in
Virginia.
http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/documents/Cidates/Bulletins/20120306PrimaryBulletin.pdf
The freaking instructions were approved by the State Board of Election on March 26 to be posted to their web site by July 1st.
How is it cheating to publish the information months in advance deliniating the minimum requirements and then even suggesting that campaigns gather extra signatures to preclude and candidate not satisfying the requirements because some signatures would be invalid. The state said to get 15,000/700 signatures to ensure you meet the minimum of 10,000/400.
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JoeB131
Diamond Member
You can invoke all the goofy ass statues you want, guy.
The fact is, that unless this is enforced uniformly, it's about as meaningless as Claude Reins closing down Rick's for Gambling.
"I'm shocked you didn't completely fill out line 15 on page 25 of your petition. Absolutely shocked."
The fact is, that unless this is enforced uniformly, it's about as meaningless as Claude Reins closing down Rick's for Gambling.
"I'm shocked you didn't completely fill out line 15 on page 25 of your petition. Absolutely shocked."
WorldWatcher
Platinum Member
The State Board of Election did not set the number(s), the numbers were set by the elected representatives of the Commonwealths Legislature as a matter of law.
What it appears to me is that you want an non-elected board to ignore Virginia Statuary requirements created by the Legislature as a function of law.
Am I correct in that you want them to ignore the law and just give Newt a pass because even though he did comply with the law you personally feel he should be on the ballot and damn the law? Is that correct?
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