Freedom of Religious Opinion? Not If You're Phil Robertson

[peach174]

At least you and most others on the right are consistent in your hate and ignorance.

No one's 'basic liberty' is being 'attacked.' This isn't a First Amendment, free speech issue.

The left portrays rights as privilege granted by our benevolent rulers out of the goodness of their hearts.

Of course civil rights are not granted by government, they can only be infringed by government.

The Ku Klux Klan, though part of the Democratic Party, was not a government entity, yet sane people recognize that what the KKK did was an infringement of civil rights. Sane people grasp that civil rights can be violated by non-government entities.

The campaign of demagoguery against Phil Robertson is typical of the intimidation tactics that define the shameful democrats. Any expression that is at odds with DNC dogma is met with an onslaught of slander and libel from a hundred directions by the party press, with the intent of destroying the person and reputation of the victim.

Of course it is a civil rights issue, and you are at war to end civil rights - as is the left in general.

The KKK has never been a part of any political party, Pothead. Read a book someday.

Here's a good spot:

Have you forgotten about Sen. Byrd?

 

[bodecea]

The latest statement from the Robertson family appears to indicate that they will pull the plug on future filming unless Phil is reinstated. A&E will lose big time.

Whatever.

 

[bodecea]

I would like to add - his Jim Crowe comments had me more aghast then the gay ones, and I doubt that I'm alone, so. Yeah. That piece of the puzzle absolutely fits in this discussion.

The guy has used his newfound celebrity to spout his extremist views. He has every right to do so, and his network has every right to pull him for doing it

Frankly, the guy is kind of creepy

How is saying he believes in the teachings in the Bible "extreme"?
When God told Noah to put two of each species of animal in the ark God didn't say: "It doesn't matter if both the lions are male" right?
All animal life on the planet is the result what happens after a male and a female mate. To all you 'boyz who pee sitting down' that result was YOU right?

Of course, ANY species down to only one male and one female is unsustainable. How does your bible explain that?

 

[Pogo]

The KKK has never been a part of any political party, Pothead. Read a book someday.

Here's a good spot:

Ah lying, the first and only refuge of the left.

{The original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white, according to a new television program and book, which describe how the Democrats started the KKK and for decades harassed the GOP with lynchings and threats.

An estimated 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites died at the end of KKK ropes from 1882 to 1964.

The documentation has been assembled by David Barton of Wallbu More..ilders and published in his book "Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White," which reveals that not only did the Democrats work hand-in-glove with the Ku Klux Klan for generations, they started the KKK and endorsed its mayhem.

"Of all forms of violent intimidation, lynchings were by far the most effective," Barton said in his book. "Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and their platforms consistently called for a ban on lynching. Democrats successfully blocked those bills and their platforms never did condemn lynchings."

Further, the first grand wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic National Convention, no Democrats voted for the 14th Amendment to grant citizenship to former slaves and, to this day, the party website ignores those decades of racism, he said. }

History Of The Democrats And The KKK.....(Why the Democrats started the KKK)

Hey though, if you lie enough, you can change reality - or at least that's what your handlers and DailyKOS told you....

Pogo likes to name call. I guess he has hissy-fits or something. Here is a quote from wiki.


In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[45]

Once again, for an alleged Southerner you're remarkably ignorant of our own history. After 1865 (when the Klan was created) the entire power structure in the South was Democrat, certainly including the racist element. There's actually a town not far from where I sit called "Democrat". It was literally the only political game in town as far as they were concerned. The President from the then-new Republican Party had just vanquished them in the (Civil) War (Between the States), about which outcome there was rampant denial --- what do you expect they were they going to do, go join that party? Duh.

No, the only Republicans in the South at the time were blacks, abolitionists and what were derisively referred to as "carpetbaggers". And the agenda of those groups was what the KKK opposed, whether a given Klansman belonged to a political party or not. That doesn't make them an arm of the Democratic Party -- which also existed in the North and West and opposed them.

Again....................... Duh.

The one-party state continued by tradition until pretty much the CRA 1964 when Strom Thurmond (a relative of mine) bolted the DP for the RP and led a sea change. But the same racist conservatives who used the DP as a tool for election and power, now used the RP for the same purpose. Because that's all a political party is -- a tool to get elected.

My grandfather told a story about counting ballots at a polling station in Mississippi in 1940. It demonstrates the extent of the one-party state:

"Roosevelt..
Roosevelt...
Roosevelt...
Wilkie...
Roosevelt...
Wilkie... aw shoot, we have to throw out the ballot. Some damn fool voted twice!"

 

[BlindBoo]

The KKK has never been a part of any political party, Pothead. Read a book someday.

Here's a good spot:

Ah lying, the first and only refuge of the left.

{The original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white, according to a new television program and book, which describe how the Democrats started the KKK and for decades harassed the GOP with lynchings and threats.

An estimated 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites died at the end of KKK ropes from 1882 to 1964.

The documentation has been assembled by David Barton of Wallbu More..ilders and published in his book "Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White," which reveals that not only did the Democrats work hand-in-glove with the Ku Klux Klan for generations, they started the KKK and endorsed its mayhem.

"Of all forms of violent intimidation, lynchings were by far the most effective," Barton said in his book. "Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and their platforms consistently called for a ban on lynching. Democrats successfully blocked those bills and their platforms never did condemn lynchings."

Further, the first grand wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic National Convention, no Democrats voted for the 14th Amendment to grant citizenship to former slaves and, to this day, the party website ignores those decades of racism, he said. }

History Of The Democrats And The KKK.....(Why the Democrats started the KKK)

Hey though, if you lie enough, you can change reality - or at least that's what your handlers and DailyKOS told you....

The KKK was the southern insurgency after the Civil war, targeting the occupation government. After the Feds withdrew in 1877 the original KKK fell apart.

 

[Dutch]

Yeah, if you read what he said, he isn't one to judge, whatever failing a person has, it is between them and god. His job is to spread the gospel. Second, he tilled the fields with blacks, he never once slandered them.

So yes, I agree, simply because unlike the lot of you, I did read the GQ interview.

He said blacks were happier in the pre-civil rights era.

Yeah, when he tilled the fields with them, side by side, picked cotton with them, he has a unique perspective that you don't. He never once heard a black man or woman badmouth whites.

My god you are dense.

Do you actually think a Black in 1950's LA would tell any white what they really were thinking? Hell, you could get a severe beat down for just trying to eat at the same lunch counter as them. Of course Phil never heard any Blacks talking bad against whites. I'm sure when Phil went home from the fields all of the Black laborers got together and told stories of the benevolence of the white man.

 

[g5000]

Is Phil Robertson still able to say that God hates fags?

Why, yes! Yes he is!

Freedom of religious opinion.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Oh please. Once again for the thick of skull -- the KKK was founded by half a dozen Confederate soldiers (former solders by then) around a campfire. It has never been a political organization. It describes itself as a social organization. Any time it even remotely got into politics, such as getting its members elected, they did so as Democrats in the South and as Republicans in the North and West. As far as political thrust the only candidate they ever actually pushed into a major office was Edward Jackson, governor of Indiana. A Republican. The only minor office they campaigned for and got was some city council seats in Anaheim. Again, as Republicans.

So you're saying the Democratic Party works to get Republicans elected.

Dumbass.

Yeah, that's what Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd said, stupid ****...

Hey, if you lie enough, you can change reality!

The KKK was the terrorist wing of the democratic party - pure fact.

 

[Pogo]

The left portrays rights as privilege granted by our benevolent rulers out of the goodness of their hearts.

Of course civil rights are not granted by government, they can only be infringed by government.

The Ku Klux Klan, though part of the Democratic Party, was not a government entity, yet sane people recognize that what the KKK did was an infringement of civil rights. Sane people grasp that civil rights can be violated by non-government entities.

The campaign of demagoguery against Phil Robertson is typical of the intimidation tactics that define the shameful democrats. Any expression that is at odds with DNC dogma is met with an onslaught of slander and libel from a hundred directions by the party press, with the intent of destroying the person and reputation of the victim.

Of course it is a civil rights issue, and you are at war to end civil rights - as is the left in general.

The KKK has never been a part of any political party, Pothead. Read a book someday.

Here's a good spot:

Have you forgotten about Sen. Byrd?

Byrd didn't get elected by the KKK. He actually hid it. It was brought out by an election opponent. From his own party IIRC.

 

[TemplarKormac]

He said blacks were happier in the pre-civil rights era.

Yeah, when he tilled the fields with them, side by side, picked cotton with them, he has a unique perspective that you don't. He never once heard a black man or woman badmouth whites.

My god you are dense.

Do you actually think a Black in 1950's LA would tell any white what they really were thinking? Hell, you could get a severe beat down for just trying to eat at the same lunch counter as them. Of course Phil never heard any Blacks talking bad against whites. I'm sure when Phil went home from the fields all of the Black laborers got together and told stories of the benevolence of the white man.

And I'm sure you're a mind reader like rightwinger. You never lived the man's life, so why bother trying to do so now?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Is Phil Robertson still able to say that God hates fags?

Why, yes! Yes he is!

Freedom of religious opinion.

That's not what he said, actually.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

The KKK has never been a part of any political party, Pothead. Read a book someday.

Here's a good spot:

Have you forgotten about Sen. Byrd?

Byrd didn't get elected by the KKK. He actually hid it. It was brought out by an election opponent. From his own party IIRC.

And he kept getting reelected and reelected!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Phil is free to say whatever he wants. No one has hunted him down in the middle of the night, torture or hung him from a tree for his family to find later. A&E has every right to do whatever it feels is in it's best interest as well, even to the point of firing Phil.

This is a campaign of intimidation, just as democrats have been using for 150 years.

The difference now is that people fight back.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Have you forgotten about Sen. Byrd?

He has forgotten about integrity.

Such is the way of leftists.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The KKK was the southern insurgency after the Civil war, targeting the occupation government. After the Feds withdrew in 1877 the original KKK fell apart.

And then reformed - by the democratic party.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Byrd didn't get elected by the KKK. He actually hid it. It was brought out by an election opponent. From his own party IIRC.

I'm sure if you lie enough, you can change history and reality - just like your handlers at ThinkProgress told you!

 

[percysunshine]

Is Phil Robertson still able to say that God hates fags?

Why, yes! Yes he is!

Freedom of religious opinion.

Is g5000 still able to imply imaginary quotes?

Why, yes! Yes he is!

Freedom of USMB discourse.

 

[Pogo]

Oh please. Once again for the thick of skull -- the KKK was founded by half a dozen Confederate soldiers (former solders by then) around a campfire. It has never been a political organization. It describes itself as a social organization. Any time it even remotely got into politics, such as getting its members elected, they did so as Democrats in the South and as Republicans in the North and West. As far as political thrust the only candidate they ever actually pushed into a major office was Edward Jackson, governor of Indiana. A Republican. The only minor office they campaigned for and got was some city council seats in Anaheim. Again, as Republicans.

So you're saying the Democratic Party works to get Republicans elected.

Dumbass.

Yeah, that's what Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd said, stupid ****...

Hey, if you lie enough, you can change reality!

The KKK was the terrorist wing of the democratic party - pure fact.

Pure idiocy you mean.

That's why the DP worked to get Republicans elected in Indiana and California right? Historical revision is the crutch of liars who can't be bothered to research.

I happen to have extensive research on this, so I have an unfair advantage. The KKK was undeniably a terrorist organization but was never a political one. It opposed civil rights, Catholics, Jews and loose women. They stood for a preservation of an older time -- a conservatism of cultural values -- not a political agenda.

But hey, feel free to put some meat on the bones of that canard.

As the old saying goes, those who ignore their own history are doomed to embarrass themselves with really stupid posts on message boards under names like Uncensored and Welfare Queen.

 

[BlindBoo]

Phil is free to say whatever he wants. No one has hunted him down in the middle of the night, torture or hung him from a tree for his family to find later. A&E has every right to do whatever it feels is in it's best interest as well, even to the point of firing Phil.

This is a campaign of intimidation, just as democrats have been using for 150 years.

The difference now is that people fight back.

Nah it's another right wing campaign of "Crybaby-ism".

"Happy Holiday's"

 

[Pogo]

Byrd didn't get elected by the KKK. He actually hid it. It was brought out by an election opponent. From his own party IIRC.

I'm sure if you lie enough, you can change history and reality - just like your handlers at ThinkProgress told you!

Refute it .... if you can.