Free Speech being attacked by Trump and it is losing the battle

[Marener]

We are in a period of increasing civil unrest, with a lot of talk of civil WAR.

In this situation, a corportation that is happy to keep hatemongering and trying to stir up more violence and strife,

is a valid target of regulation.

No, it’s not a valid target of regulation because the first amendment still exists.

The Trump administration is threatening viewpoint discrimination, and this indeed very authoritarian.

But you will make any excuse needed to support it because this really isn’t about the country anymore, it’s about attacking your enemies.

 

[JLW]

Since when did Democrats?

Don't bother. You won't answer truthfully anyway.

When the right is "originalist' regarding the Constitution, those who are not don't give a damn about the Constitution.

You MAGAs dispose of the Constitution like toilet paper if it stops you from doing what you want to do.

MAGA: "Oh my God, a judge ruled against us, the judge must be corrupt! Why don't the judges agree with MAGA 100% of the time!"

 

[Darkwind]

You MAGAs dispose of the Constitution like toilet paper if it stops you from doing what you want to do.

MAGA: "Oh my God, a judge ruled against us, the judge must be corrupt! Why don't the judges agree with MAGA 100% of the time!"

So, your beliefs mislead you 100% of the time. When will you guys do some navel gazing and realize YOU don't own the interpretive rights to the Constitution.

 

[JLW]

So, your beliefs mislead you 100% of the time. When will you guys do some navel gazing and realize YOU don't own the interpretive rights to the Constitution.

I don't ***** and moan call the judges corrupt when I disagree with a ruling. You MAGAs do it daily.

 

[MarathonMike]

ABC suspends Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night show indefinitely over his remarks about Charlie Kirk’s death​

This action was done by Brandon Carr (Secretary of the FCC - appointed by Donald Trump).

What makes this action even worse is that Carr has been a strong proponent of Free Speech in the past, and here he goes and attacks Free Speech.

Here are Carr's comments in the past about Free Speech

In 2019 he said: "Should the government censor speech it doesn't like? Of course not. The FCC does not have a roving mandate to police speech in the name of the 'public interest'".

In 2023 he said: "Free speech is the counterweight—it is the check on government control. That is why censorship is the authoritarian’s dream".

In 2024 he said: “A lot of social media companies have embraced, or re-embraced, the idea of free speech online, I think Elon Musk and X had a great deal to do with that. I was pleased to see Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook join him, but clearly there’s more we can do.”

Now and after this suspension of Kimmel was done, this was Carr's comment" "Local broadcasters have an obligation to serve the public interest. While this may be an unprecedented decision, it is important for broadcasters to push back on Disney programming that they determine falls short of community values. I hope that other broadcasters follow Nexstar's lead."

This OP is not about Kimmel himself. I never was a fan of Kimmel as I am against all extremes and Kimmel was all about Trump every show. Too much (in my opinion). Nonetheless, first was Steven Colbert and now Jimmy Kimmel and who is next?

Here is the comment from the ACLU after this event:

This OP is about Free Speech, which is a right given to us by the Constitution and one we have strongly defended throughout the lifetime of our country. Now, that Free Speech is being attacked and is losing the battle.

I think this is wrong.

You didn't think it was wrong when Americans were being cancelled or fired for saying ALL LIVES MATTER during the George Floyd insanity, did you? You are an obvious hypocrite and a flaming Leftist who hates Trump and anyone who supports him.

 

[Darkwind]

I don't ***** and moan call the judges corrupt when I disagree with a ruling. You MAGAs do it daily.

The **** you don't.

How many times have you called the SCOTUS illegitimate? The left does it on the daily.

 

[JLW]

The **** you don't.

How many times have you called the SCOTUS illegitimate? The left does it on the daily.

I have never called SCOTUS illegitimate. That is a MAGA thing.

 

[Billiejeens]

So, you support the abolition of Free Speech, right?

**** are you stupid.

 

[Billiejeens]

Well should Kimmel have been shot like Charlie Kirk was?

Possibly

 

[IDIOCRACY]

ABC suspends Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night show indefinitely over his remarks about Charlie Kirk’s death​

This action was done by Brandon Carr (Secretary of the FCC - appointed by Donald Trump).

What makes this action even worse is that Carr has been a strong proponent of Free Speech in the past, and here he goes and attacks Free Speech.

Here are Carr's comments in the past about Free Speech

In 2019 he said: "Should the government censor speech it doesn't like? Of course not. The FCC does not have a roving mandate to police speech in the name of the 'public interest'".

In 2023 he said: "Free speech is the counterweight—it is the check on government control. That is why censorship is the authoritarian’s dream".

In 2024 he said: “A lot of social media companies have embraced, or re-embraced, the idea of free speech online, I think Elon Musk and X had a great deal to do with that. I was pleased to see Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook join him, but clearly there’s more we can do.”

Now and after this suspension of Kimmel was done, this was Carr's comment" "Local broadcasters have an obligation to serve the public interest. While this may be an unprecedented decision, it is important for broadcasters to push back on Disney programming that they determine falls short of community values. I hope that other broadcasters follow Nexstar's lead."

This OP is not about Kimmel himself. I never was a fan of Kimmel as I am against all extremes and Kimmel was all about Trump every show. Too much (in my opinion). Nonetheless, first was Steven Colbert and now Jimmy Kimmel and who is next?

Here is the comment from the ACLU after this event:

This OP is about Free Speech, which is a right given to us by the Constitution and one we have strongly defended throughout the lifetime of our country. Now, that Free Speech is being attacked and is losing the battle.

I think this is wrong.

I stopped reading at your introduction. Neat story Luckyonce, cool twist as liberals do. We conservatives like to see things rationally.

1. Funny? Nope
2. Popular? Nope
3. Political hack and cry-puss? Check
4. Nasty? Check
5. Lying MFer? Check

But you know, Trump comin' after your democracy, kamala installed w/o one.

 

[Correll]

No, it’s not a valid target of regulation because the first amendment still exists.

The Trump administration is threatening viewpoint discrimination, and this indeed very authoritarian.

But you will make any excuse needed to support it because this really isn’t about the country anymore, it’s about attacking your enemies.

Do you want a civil war?

 

[Marener]

Do you want a civil war?

Of course not.

But I do demand that you respect the constitution.

 

[Correll]

Of course not.

But I do demand that you respect the constitution.

You see a corporation pushing a divisive and hate filled message during a period of increasing civil unrest and political violence with talk of civil war being normal,

and you support the bad corporate actor in their efforts at increasing violence and conflict?

That contradicts your claim to NOT want civil war.


I think you DO want civil war, but you hope to talk enough shit, that you can have your side fighting while your enemies are still trying to have debates and elections.

 

[westwall]

No one ever said MAGAs were consistent.

At any rate, criticism of the dear leader will not be tolerated!

You sat back and laughed as conservatives were removed from the airwaves.

So spare us your whining.

 

[Marener]

You see a corporation pushing a divisive and hate filled message during a period of increasing civil unrest and political violence with talk of civil war being normal,

and you support the bad corporate actor in their efforts at increasing violence and conflict?

That contradicts your claim to NOT want civil war.


I think you DO want civil war, but you hope to talk enough shit, that you can have your side fighting while your enemies are still trying to have debates and elections.

History is replete with authoritarians who take away the rights of the people to save them from a manufactured threat.

The idea that Jimmy Kimmel was going to spark a civil war is absolutely absurd. It’s merely pretext to attack and punish your political enemies. This is how authoritarians operate.

 

[Correll]

History is replete with authoritarians who take away the rights of the people to save them from a manufactured threat.

The idea that Jimmy Kimmel was going to spark a civil war is absolutely absurd. It’s merely pretext to attack and punish your political enemies. This is how authoritarians operate.

The political unrest is not made up. THe open discussion of civil war is not made up.


Your denial of well known reality is just you being a liar to try to support your side's efforts at USING POLITICAL VIOLENCE to advance your POLITICAL AGENDA.

 

[Eman623]

No one ever said MAGAs were consistent.

Unlike woke who loved censorship when they were in charge but hate it now.

 

[Marener]

The political unrest is not made up. THe open discussion of civil war is not made up.


Your denial of well known reality is just you being a liar to try to support your side's efforts at USING POLITICAL VIOLENCE to advance your POLITICAL AGENDA.

The people chirping about civil war are most often on the right and have been chirping about it for decades.

I got up, went to work and will go out to a nice dinner with my family tonight and then a walk around the neighborhood. If you think we need to give up civil rights because of “civil unrest”, then you desperately need to get off the internet.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

This OP is about Free Speech, which is a right given to us by the Constitution and one we have strongly defended throughout the lifetime of our country. Now, that Free Speech is being attacked and is losing the battle.

And after 60 years you are just waking up to this? of course it is losing, it is in stage 4, had you done something earlier the situation would not be so dire.

 

[Correll]

The people chirping about civil war are most often on the right and have been chirping about it for decades.

We've seen where this was going for a long time.

And now, it's not just us. Hell, now it's MOSTLY on the left. After all, we've WON politically. The civil war talk now is from the left who CAN'T defend their ideas.


THe point being, that your pretense that this was just made up shit, was a lie.

You are LYING, to defend your side. It is the only way you CAN defend your side.

I got up, went to work and will go out to a nice dinner with my family tonight and then a walk around the neighborhood. If you think we need to give up civil rights because of “civil unrest”, then you desperately need to get off the internet.

A corporation that is being that bad of a "citizen", doesn't need to keep it's broadcasting license.

That slot can go to someone who is NOT a traitorous and irresponsible sub human.