Free Speech being attacked by Trump and it is losing the battle

[DukeU]

You were shown that your post was a misrepresentation of the facts, and your answer is LOL?

You are certainly following the Trump guidelines for ignoring the facts and laughing at Free Speech defense.

No, you did not show that.

The fact remains.

Try again.

 

[Luckyone]

No, you did not show that.

The fact remains.

Try again.

You stated:

democrats had no problem when the *biden admin. was suppressing free speech.

Biden administration coerced social media giants into

and yet:

Supreme Court sides with Biden administration over COVID-era​

By a 6-3 vote, the justices threw out lower-court rulings that favored Louisiana, Missouri and other parties in their claims that officials in the Democratic administration leaned on the social media platforms to unconstitutionally squelch conservative points of view.

If you use your brain (doubtful), you would see that Biden was found innocent (by the Supreme Court) of suppressing free speech and as such, the Democrats were NOT suppressing free speech.

You were proven wrong in misrepresenting what happened.

No ifs, ands or buts about it!

 

[DukeU]

You stated:

democrats had no problem when the *biden admin. was suppressing free speech.

Biden administration coerced social media giants into

and yet:
https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/supreme-court-sides-with-biden-administration-over-covid-era-social-media-dispute

Supreme Court sides with Biden administration over COVID-era​

By a 6-3 vote, the justices threw out lower-court rulings that favored Louisiana, Missouri and other parties in their claims that officials in the Democratic administration leaned on the social media platforms to unconstitutionally squelch conservative points of view.

If you use your brain (doubtful). you would see that Biden was found innocent (by the Supreme Court) of suppressing free speech and as such, the Democrats were NOT suppressing free speech.

You were proven wrong in misrepresenting what happened.

No ifs, ands or buts about it!

Again............LOL

Supreme Court rejects claim that Biden administration …​

In Wednesday's 6-3 ruling, the Supreme Court said the plaintiffs did not have the legal standing to sue.

The three most conservative justices opposed the decision, with Justice Samuel Alito publishing a blistering dissent that spanned 34 pages, where he wrote that this may be "one of the most important free speech cases to reach this court in years".

Even though the ruling was on a technical issue and not the heart of the case, it was a win for President Joe Biden.

 

[Luckyone]

Again............LOL

Supreme Court rejects claim that Biden administration …​

In Wednesday's 6-3 ruling, the Supreme Court said the plaintiffs did not have the legal standing to sue.

The three most conservative justices opposed the decision, with Justice Samuel Alito publishing a blistering dissent that spanned 34 pages, where he wrote that this may be "one of the most important free speech cases to reach this court in years".

Even though the ruling was on a technical issue and not the heart of the case, it was a win for President Joe Biden.

Oh, and by the way. This issue had to do with Covid and that was not a "political" issue regarding suppressing free speech. It was medically proven that vaccines did work in preventing Covid and the "suppressing of free speech" was of biased people that BELIEVED (but had no actual proof) that they didn't work. Yes, they had the right to say it but not to suppress the idea (as they tried to do).

You are trying to compare apples and oranges. That is not something you can do successfully in a debate!

 

[dudmuck]

We've seen where this was going for a long time.

And now, it's not just us. Hell, now it's MOSTLY on the left. After all, we've WON politically. The civil war talk now is from the left who CAN'T defend their ideas.


THe point being, that your pretense that this was just made up shit, was a lie.

You are LYING, to defend your side. It is the only way you CAN defend your side.






A corporation that is being that bad of a "citizen", doesn't need to keep it's broadcasting license.

That slot can go to someone who is NOT a traitorous and irresponsible sub human.

 

[DukeU]

Oh, and by the way. This issue had to do with Covid and that was not a "political" issue regarding suppressing free speech. It was medically proven that vaccines did work in preventing Covid and the "suppressing of free speech" was of biased people that BELIEVED (but had no actual proof) that they didn't work. Yes, they had the right to say it but not to suppress the idea (as they tried to do).

You are trying to compare apples and oranges. That is not something you can do successfully in a debate!

Spin it how you wish.

The fact remains.

57 Biden Administration Censorship Initiatives​

 

[iamwhatiseem]

 

[Hollie]

ABC suspends Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night show indefinitely over his remarks about Charlie Kirk’s death​

This action was done by Brandon Carr (Secretary of the FCC - appointed by Donald Trump).

What makes this action even worse is that Carr has been a strong proponent of Free Speech in the past, and here he goes and attacks Free Speech.

Here are Carr's comments in the past about Free Speech

In 2019 he said: "Should the government censor speech it doesn't like? Of course not. The FCC does not have a roving mandate to police speech in the name of the 'public interest'".

In 2023 he said: "Free speech is the counterweight—it is the check on government control. That is why censorship is the authoritarian’s dream".

In 2024 he said: “A lot of social media companies have embraced, or re-embraced, the idea of free speech online, I think Elon Musk and X had a great deal to do with that. I was pleased to see Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook join him, but clearly there’s more we can do.”

Now and after this suspension of Kimmel was done, this was Carr's comment" "Local broadcasters have an obligation to serve the public interest. While this may be an unprecedented decision, it is important for broadcasters to push back on Disney programming that they determine falls short of community values. I hope that other broadcasters follow Nexstar's lead."

This OP is not about Kimmel himself. I never was a fan of Kimmel as I am against all extremes and Kimmel was all about Trump every show. Too much (in my opinion). Nonetheless, first was Steven Colbert and now Jimmy Kimmel and who is next?

Here is the comment from the ACLU after this event:

This OP is about Free Speech, which is a right given to us by the Constitution and one we have strongly defended throughout the lifetime of our country. Now, that Free Speech is being attacked and is losing the battle.

I think this is wrong.

Who cares what you think? This is about the affiliates pulling the time slot for little Jimmy which means add revenue will crater.

 

[Luckyone]

Spin it how you wish.

The fact remains.

57 Biden Administration Censorship Initiatives​

Here is a question you should not have a problem answering:

Who is president now and, in a position to harm us?

Is Biden president now?

 

[Hollie]

Yer insane if you or anyone can try to be my master. Yet just another mindless tyrant.

I am your master, ebonics slob.


Sit.... sit..... stay.....stay.

 

[DukeU]

Here is a question you should not have a problem answering:

Who is president now and, in a position to harm us?

Is Biden president now?

You had no problems then, don't cry now.

 

[Hollie]

The Kimmel thing is a business decision, nothing to do with free speech.

......and nothing to do with Trump as the left is floating the expected conspiracy theories that, you know, Trump, Trump. Trump.

 

[Luckyone]

pYou had no problems then, don't cry now.

I am not crying. Americans (other than supporters of Trump that want a Dictator) are crying

 

[Rawley]

Here is a question you should not have a problem answering:

Who is president now and, in a position to harm us?

Is Biden president now?

Just point out that you didn't say shit when Biden was doing it. But because you allege that Trump is doing it, it's an existential threat to our democracy.

And you wonder why normal folks don't you loons seriously?

 

[Leo123]

ABC suspends Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night show indefinitely over his remarks about Charlie Kirk’s death​

This action was done by Brandon Carr (Secretary of the FCC - appointed by Donald Trump).

What makes this action even worse is that Carr has been a strong proponent of Free Speech in the past, and here he goes and attacks Free Speech.

Here are Carr's comments in the past about Free Speech

In 2019 he said: "Should the government censor speech it doesn't like? Of course not. The FCC does not have a roving mandate to police speech in the name of the 'public interest'".

In 2023 he said: "Free speech is the counterweight—it is the check on government control. That is why censorship is the authoritarian’s dream".

In 2024 he said: “A lot of social media companies have embraced, or re-embraced, the idea of free speech online, I think Elon Musk and X had a great deal to do with that. I was pleased to see Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook join him, but clearly there’s more we can do.”

Now and after this suspension of Kimmel was done, this was Carr's comment" "Local broadcasters have an obligation to serve the public interest. While this may be an unprecedented decision, it is important for broadcasters to push back on Disney programming that they determine falls short of community values. I hope that other broadcasters follow Nexstar's lead."

This OP is not about Kimmel himself. I never was a fan of Kimmel as I am against all extremes and Kimmel was all about Trump every show. Too much (in my opinion). Nonetheless, first was Steven Colbert and now Jimmy Kimmel and who is next?

Here is the comment from the ACLU after this event:

This OP is about Free Speech, which is a right given to us by the Constitution and one we have strongly defended throughout the lifetime of our country. Now, that Free Speech is being attacked and is losing the battle.

I think this is wrong.

Free speech does not give a blank check to spewing hatred. There will always be consequences. Kimmel's show just turned out to be an anti-conservative hate fest and the network fired his ass because most folks stopped watching Kimmel's shit.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Kimmel was not funny, he was just a mean bitter man.

.

He might have been funny to a nation of mean, bitter people.

.

 

[Luckyone]

Just point out that you didn't say shit when Biden was doing it. But because you allege that Trump is doing it, it's an existential threat to our democracy.

And you wonder why normal folks don't you loons seriously?

It so happens that Biden was not doing it and even if he was (which he wasn't), it was not a political bias issue. The only thing that Biden was accused of (in this respect) was regarding the Covid vaccines.

Trump is acting like a dictator, which will take ALL OF OUR freedom of speech on anything that Trump does not like.

Talking about normal folks, who can be called normal who wants a dictator running the country?

 

[Rawley]

It so happens that Biden was not doing it and even if he was (which he wasn't), it was not a political bias issue. The only thing that Biden was accused of (in this respect) was regarding the Covid vaccines.

And suppressing any opinion that was contrary to the administration on COVID isn't political?

Suppressing the crackhead's laptop a month before the election wasn't political?

Do you even listen to yourself before you type these absurdities?

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

 

[Hollie]

I am not crying. Americans (other than supporters of Trump that want a Dictator) are crying

Are you so bereft critical thinking skills that you have nothing to offer but the typical "dictator" slogan?

Americans, ( other than you Hitler groupies), are curious why you're so enamored with Nazi ideology.