"FRAUD!...FRAUD!...FRAUD!" until they get into Court...then

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-cries-election-fraud-in-court-his-lawyers-dont/ar-BB1aZ2QK


The Trump campaign or Republican allies have brought lawsuits in several battleground states contesting election results that favored President-elect Joe Biden, seeking to stop the certification of results or have ballots thrown out. Under questioning from judges handling the cases, at least two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers have backed away from suggestions that the election was stolen or fraudulent.

In other instances, attorneys representing Mr. Trump or other Republicans have said under oath they have no evidence of fraud. Lawyers also have struggled to get what they say is evidence of fraud admitted into lawsuits, with judges dismissing it as inadmissible or unreliable. A coalition of organizations representing secretaries of state, federal agencies and other top election officials said Thursday there wasn’t evidence that voting systems were compromised during the election.

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I heard trump on a daily basis shouting FRAUD!. I read all your posts on the massive stash pf Fraud evidence. You and the Liar in Chief are quick to shout Fraud, but when the attorneys get into Court, there is a hesitation to use the word Fraud. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE SANCTIONED AND POSSIBLY LOSS THEIR LAW LICENSE. Even the top law enforcement officer in the nation has said there is no fraud that would change the results of the election.

If you have evidence of massive fraud, send it to Rudy. Otherwise....SHUT UP!
Hey....Spamboi....

Stop wit the same fucking threads all the time.

We still have questions about what judges are doing. This should open everyone's eyes.

How did you dickweeds not figure out.
Please stop being a horse's ass and tell me what, if anything, in this thread is incorrect.....hint.....NOTHING!
 

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Virtually all the cases that have made it to court and been withdrawn or been dismissed had to do with a couple votes here and a couple votes there. Some were whining that poll watchers couldn't get access (but weren't actual poll watchers.

When judges ask if fraud is being charged...the answer invariably has been ...NO
[/QUOTE
The lower courts in the swing states have Clinton orders. And she has their files that would destroy their families if she doesn't get her commie way.
Or.....its just a shit legal argument. Judge Brann is a life long republican. And he had this to say of Trump's legal efforts when he dismissed their suit with prejudice:

"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.
That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. "



And Judge Bibas was appointed by Trump himself. It didn't go any better.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy,” Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote. “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”
Justice denials? --
What is it you don't understand about a high government official filmed making whoopie with his 5 year old kid not wanting his wife of 40 years to see him in such an action or worse. You have no idea what is in an FBI file, do you. Hillary is a Hill critter, and people who know the dark side of her domination of DNC doings do as she orders to keep the past back when or commit suicide after a runin with Lady MacBeth.
What batshit crazy are you talkin now...jesus
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Virtually all the cases that have made it to court and been withdrawn or been dismissed had to do with a couple votes here and a couple votes there. Some were whining that poll watchers couldn't get access (but weren't actual poll watchers.

When judges ask if fraud is being charged...the answer invariably has been ...NO
The lower courts in the swing states have Clinton orders. And she has their files that would destroy their families if she doesn't get her commie way.
I THINK THIS IS A TOTALLY NEW LIE! CONGRATS!
 

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It is the story of the boy who cried wolf. IF you say it enough , then others will pick up on it and then it becomes a cult classic.

Over the years the word fraud will be changed to "trumpit", and everyone would say "oh never mind him" when someone uses it.
Of course for all the Trump followers then they should from this day on when voting write in the name Trump on your ballots and just cross out the other name. Trump will be pleased.
"Well, he's just trumping, don't worry".

Hey, you're right, it works!
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Virtually all the cases that have made it to court and been withdrawn or been dismissed had to do with a couple votes here and a couple votes there. Some were whining that poll watchers couldn't get access (but weren't actual poll watchers.

When judges ask if fraud is being charged...the answer invariably has been ...NO
[/QUOTE
The lower courts in the swing states have Clinton orders. And she has their files that would destroy their families if she doesn't get her commie way.
Or.....its just a shit legal argument. Judge Brann is a life long republican. And he had this to say of Trump's legal efforts when he dismissed their suit with prejudice:

"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.
That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. "



And Judge Bibas was appointed by Trump himself. It didn't go any better.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy,” Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote. “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”
Justice denials? --
What is it you don't understand about a high government official filmed making whoopie with his 5 year old kid not wanting his wife of 40 years to see him in such an action or worse. You have no idea what is in an FBI file, do you. Hillary is a Hill critter, and people who know the dark side of her domination of DNC doings do as she orders to keep the past back when or commit suicide after a runin with Lady MacBeth.
What batshit crazy are you talkin now...jesus
Its a fairly generic attempt at changing the topic, by the looks of it.

Folks usually resort to them when the topic being discussed isn't going so well.
"Hillary"? I knew someone would find a way to sneak her name into the Thread....:disbelief:
 

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"Rigged Election. Show signatures and envelopes. Expose the massive voter fraud in Georgia." So tweeted trump. This is a definite statement that "massive voter fraud" occurred in Georgie, but how would he know this? He must have evidence of it already. Or is he using a crystal ball? The signatures and envelopes are separated anyway to avoid identifying a voter, so there would be no way of telling how any particular voter voted. As Skylar noted above, the heightened pleading standards of 9(b) precluded trump's attorneys from asserting fraud in their complaints, leaving them basically with nothing. I believe that it was Judge Brann who even set a deadline for them to file a motion for leave to file a second amended complaint, which means not only that their first two complaints weren't worth squat, but also that he was dangling a lifeline in front of them that they couldn't take.
 
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It is the story of the boy who cried wolf. IF you say it enough , then others will pick up on it and then it becomes a cult classic.

Over the years the word fraud will be changed to "trumpit", and everyone would say "oh never mind him" when someone uses it.
Of course for all the Trump followers then they should from this day on when voting write in the name Trump on your ballots and just cross out the other name. Trump will be pleased.
"Well, he's just trumping, don't worry".

Hey, you're right, it works!
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It is the story of the boy who cried wolf. IF you say it enough , then others will pick up on it and then it becomes a cult classic.

Over the years the word fraud will be changed to "trumpit", and everyone would say "oh never mind him" when someone uses it.
Of course for all the Trump followers then they should from this day on when voting write in the name Trump on your ballots and just cross out the other name. Trump will be pleased.
"Well, he's just trumping, don't worry".

Hey, you're right, it works!
View attachment 424770
holy crap
 

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Virtually all the cases that have made it to court and been withdrawn or been dismissed had to do with a couple votes here and a couple votes there. Some were whining that poll watchers couldn't get access (but weren't actual poll watchers.

When judges ask if fraud is being charged...the answer invariably has been ...NO
[/QUOTE
The lower courts in the swing states have Clinton orders. And she has their files that would destroy their families if she doesn't get her commie way.
Or.....its just a shit legal argument. Judge Brann is a life long republican. And he had this to say of Trump's legal efforts when he dismissed their suit with prejudice:

"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.
That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. "



And Judge Bibas was appointed by Trump himself. It didn't go any better.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy,” Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote. “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”
Justice denials? --
What is it you don't understand about a high government official filmed making whoopie with his 5 year old kid not wanting his wife of 40 years to see him in such an action or worse. You have no idea what is in an FBI file, do you. Hillary is a Hill critter, and people who know the dark side of her domination of DNC doings do as she orders to keep the past back when or commit suicide after a runin with Lady MacBeth.
What batshit crazy are you talkin now...jesus
Its a fairly generic attempt at changing the topic, by the looks of it.

Folks usually resort to them when the topic being discussed isn't going so well.
"Hillary"? I knew someone would find a way to sneak her name into the Thread....:disbelief:
Yeah, its got a distinctly word salad vibe to it, doesn't it?

But given that Trump's legal team has yet to argue in court that fraud every occurred as part of their legal argument......what else are they going to do?

Acknowledge they've been played?
 
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"Rigged Election. Show signatures and envelopes. Expose the massive voter fraud in Georgia." So tweeted trump. This is a definite statement that "massive voter fraud" occurred in Georgie, but how would he know this? He must have evidence of it already. Or is he using a crystal ball? The signatures and envelopes are separated anyway to avoid identifying a voter, so there would be no way of telling how any particular voter voted. As Skylar noted above, the heightened pleading standards of 9(b) precluded trump's attorneys from asserting fraud in their complaints, leaving them basically with nothing. I believe that it was Judge Brann who even set a deadline for them to file a motion for leave to file a second amended complaint, which means not only that their first two complaints weren't worth squat, but also that he was dangling a lifeline in front of them that they couldn't take.
You do realize that trump is Talking out of His Ass....right?
 

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-cries-election-fraud-in-court-his-lawyers-dont/ar-BB1aZ2QK


The Trump campaign or Republican allies have brought lawsuits in several battleground states contesting election results that favored President-elect Joe Biden, seeking to stop the certification of results or have ballots thrown out. Under questioning from judges handling the cases, at least two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers have backed away from suggestions that the election was stolen or fraudulent.

In other instances, attorneys representing Mr. Trump or other Republicans have said under oath they have no evidence of fraud. Lawyers also have struggled to get what they say is evidence of fraud admitted into lawsuits, with judges dismissing it as inadmissible or unreliable. A coalition of organizations representing secretaries of state, federal agencies and other top election officials said Thursday there wasn’t evidence that voting systems were compromised during the election.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I heard trump on a daily basis shouting FRAUD!. I read all your posts on the massive stash pf Fraud evidence. You and the Liar in Chief are quick to shout Fraud, but when the attorneys get into Court, there is a hesitation to use the word Fraud. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE SANCTIONED AND POSSIBLY LOSS THEIR LAW LICENSE. Even the top law enforcement officer in the nation has said there is no fraud that would change the results of the election.

If you have evidence of massive fraud, send it to Rudy. Otherwise....SHUT UP!
Hey....Spamboi....

Stop wit the same fucking threads all the time.

We still have questions about what judges are doing. This should open everyone's eyes.

How did you dickweeds not figure out.
Please stop being a horse's ass and tell me what, if anything, in this thread is incorrect.....hint.....NOTHING!
Who is going to listen to your precious coalition when their behavior has been partisan from the start.

Dumbass.
 

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-cries-election-fraud-in-court-his-lawyers-dont/ar-BB1aZ2QK


The Trump campaign or Republican allies have brought lawsuits in several battleground states contesting election results that favored President-elect Joe Biden, seeking to stop the certification of results or have ballots thrown out. Under questioning from judges handling the cases, at least two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers have backed away from suggestions that the election was stolen or fraudulent.

In other instances, attorneys representing Mr. Trump or other Republicans have said under oath they have no evidence of fraud. Lawyers also have struggled to get what they say is evidence of fraud admitted into lawsuits, with judges dismissing it as inadmissible or unreliable. A coalition of organizations representing secretaries of state, federal agencies and other top election officials said Thursday there wasn’t evidence that voting systems were compromised during the election.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I heard trump on a daily basis shouting FRAUD!. I read all your posts on the massive stash pf Fraud evidence. You and the Liar in Chief are quick to shout Fraud, but when the attorneys get into Court, there is a hesitation to use the word Fraud. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE SANCTIONED AND POSSIBLY LOSS THEIR LAW LICENSE. Even the top law enforcement officer in the nation has said there is no fraud that would change the results of the election.

If you have evidence of massive fraud, send it to Rudy. Otherwise....SHUT UP!
It's a federal crime to lie to a judge in court, and if a lawyer does, he/she loses license and is disbarred forever.
Trump's lawyers aren't going to lie for him.
 
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Virtually all the cases that have made it to court and been withdrawn or been dismissed had to do with a couple votes here and a couple votes there. Some were whining that poll watchers couldn't get access (but weren't actual poll watchers.

When judges ask if fraud is being charged...the answer invariably has been ...NO
[/QUOTE
The lower courts in the swing states have Clinton orders. And she has their files that would destroy their families if she doesn't get her commie way.
Or.....its just a shit legal argument. Judge Brann is a life long republican. And he had this to say of Trump's legal efforts when he dismissed their suit with prejudice:

"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.
That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. "



And Judge Bibas was appointed by Trump himself. It didn't go any better.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy,” Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote. “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”
Justice denials? --
What is it you don't understand about a high government official filmed making whoopie with his 5 year old kid not wanting his wife of 40 years to see him in such an action or worse. You have no idea what is in an FBI file, do you. Hillary is a Hill critter, and people who know the dark side of her domination of DNC doings do as she orders to keep the past back when or commit suicide after a runin with Lady MacBeth.
What batshit crazy are you talkin now...jesus
Its a fairly generic attempt at changing the topic, by the looks of it.

Folks usually resort to them when the topic being discussed isn't going so well.
"Hillary"? I knew someone would find a way to sneak her name into the Thread....:disbelief:
Yeah, its got a distinctly word salad vibe to it, doesn't it?

But given that Trump's legal team has yet to argue in court that fraud every occurred as part of their legal argument......what else are they going to do?

Acknowledge they've been played?
They always delete the term "Fraud" from their filed case....Why? Cause they cannot support the claim and Judges do not look favorably on Lawyers that Lie to them. All these "hearings on fraud" are circuses for the general public. The mean NOTHING!
 

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Virtually all the cases that have made it to court and been withdrawn or been dismissed had to do with a couple votes here and a couple votes there. Some were whining that poll watchers couldn't get access (but weren't actual poll watchers.

When judges ask if fraud is being charged...the answer invariably has been ...NO
The lower courts in the swing states have Clinton orders. And she has their files that would destroy their families if she doesn't get her commie way.
Or.....its just a shit legal argument. Judge Brann is a life long republican. And he had this to say of Trump's legal efforts when he dismissed their suit with prejudice:

"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.
That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. "



And Judge Bibas was appointed by Trump himself. It didn't go any better.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy,” Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote. “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”
What is it you don't understand about a high government official filmed making whoopie with his 5 year old kid not wanting his wife of 40 years to see him in such an action or worse. You have no idea what is in an FBI file, do you. Hillary is a Hill critter.
The relevance to the topic we're discussing?
Amended post to do just that a few minutes. DNC obfuscation employing omeurta means (roughly) never disclose the truth until death kicks in first. And it gives whining defenders the excuse to say, "prove it," knowing that it might never happen in debate. Fortunately, an eye witness comes around now and then, which leaves his trailer in the overnight "missing" category which has many "it never happened" chimes ringing off the lips of multiple lie repeaters. It's a postponement game in DNC politics. Imho.
 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-cries-election-fraud-in-court-his-lawyers-dont/ar-BB1aZ2QK


The Trump campaign or Republican allies have brought lawsuits in several battleground states contesting election results that favored President-elect Joe Biden, seeking to stop the certification of results or have ballots thrown out. Under questioning from judges handling the cases, at least two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers have backed away from suggestions that the election was stolen or fraudulent.

In other instances, attorneys representing Mr. Trump or other Republicans have said under oath they have no evidence of fraud. Lawyers also have struggled to get what they say is evidence of fraud admitted into lawsuits, with judges dismissing it as inadmissible or unreliable. A coalition of organizations representing secretaries of state, federal agencies and other top election officials said Thursday there wasn’t evidence that voting systems were compromised during the election.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I heard trump on a daily basis shouting FRAUD!. I read all your posts on the massive stash pf Fraud evidence. You and the Liar in Chief are quick to shout Fraud, but when the attorneys get into Court, there is a hesitation to use the word Fraud. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE SANCTIONED AND POSSIBLY LOSS THEIR LAW LICENSE. Even the top law enforcement officer in the nation has said there is no fraud that would change the results of the election.

If you have evidence of massive fraud, send it to Rudy. Otherwise....SHUT UP!
Hey....Spamboi....

Stop wit the same fucking threads all the time.

We still have questions about what judges are doing. This should open everyone's eyes.

How did you dickweeds not figure out.
Please stop being a horse's ass and tell me what, if anything, in this thread is incorrect.....hint.....NOTHING!
Who is going to listen to your precious coalition when their behavior has been partisan from the start.

Dumbass.
Courts are not partisan. Unfortunately for trump, they rely on facts and evidence. Therein lies the real problem for Rudy and his Circus. THEY GOT NOTHING!
 

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Virtually all the cases that have made it to court and been withdrawn or been dismissed had to do with a couple votes here and a couple votes there. Some were whining that poll watchers couldn't get access (but weren't actual poll watchers.

When judges ask if fraud is being charged...the answer invariably has been ...NO
[/QUOTE
The lower courts in the swing states have Clinton orders. And she has their files that would destroy their families if she doesn't get her commie way.
Or.....its just a shit legal argument. Judge Brann is a life long republican. And he had this to say of Trump's legal efforts when he dismissed their suit with prejudice:

"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.
That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. "



And Judge Bibas was appointed by Trump himself. It didn't go any better.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy,” Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote. “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”
Justice denials? --
What is it you don't understand about a high government official filmed making whoopie with his 5 year old kid not wanting his wife of 40 years to see him in such an action or worse. You have no idea what is in an FBI file, do you. Hillary is a Hill critter, and people who know the dark side of her domination of DNC doings do as she orders to keep the past back when or commit suicide after a runin with Lady MacBeth.
What batshit crazy are you talkin now...jesus
Its a fairly generic attempt at changing the topic, by the looks of it.

Folks usually resort to them when the topic being discussed isn't going so well.
"Hillary"? I knew someone would find a way to sneak her name into the Thread....:disbelief:
Yeah, its got a distinctly word salad vibe to it, doesn't it?

But given that Trump's legal team has yet to argue in court that fraud every occurred as part of their legal argument......what else are they going to do?

Acknowledge they've been played?
They always delete the term "Fraud" from their filed case....Why? Cause they cannot support the claim and Judges do not look favorably on Lawyers that Lie to them. All these "hearings on fraud" are circuses for the general public. The mean NOTHING!
They've been straight up asked, again and again, if they are moving forward with a fraud allegation. The answer has been a consistent HELL no.

Its a HUGE tell.
 

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Virtually all the cases that have made it to court and been withdrawn or been dismissed had to do with a couple votes here and a couple votes there. Some were whining that poll watchers couldn't get access (but weren't actual poll watchers.

When judges ask if fraud is being charged...the answer invariably has been ...NO
The lower courts in the swing states have Clinton orders. And she has their files that would destroy their families if she doesn't get her commie way.
Or.....its just a shit legal argument. Judge Brann is a life long republican. And he had this to say of Trump's legal efforts when he dismissed their suit with prejudice:

"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.
That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. "



And Judge Bibas was appointed by Trump himself. It didn't go any better.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy,” Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote. “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”
What is it you don't understand about a high government official filmed making whoopie with his 5 year old kid not wanting his wife of 40 years to see him in such an action or worse. You have no idea what is in an FBI file, do you. Hillary is a Hill critter.
The relevance to the topic we're discussing?
Amended post to do just that a few minutes. DNC obfuscation employing omeurta means (roughly) never disclose the truth until death kicks in first. And it gives whining defenders the excuse to say, "prove it," knowing that it might never happen in debate. Fortunately, an eye witness comes around now and then, which leaves his trailer in the overnight "missing" category which has many "it never happened" chimes ringing off the lips of multiple lie repeaters. It's a postponement game in DNC politics. Imho.
That's some grade A word salad.

Nothing you posted a thing to do with the OP.
 

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