France INcome Tax raised to 100%: Total Marxism

[hazlnut]

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Some of France's richest taxed more than 100%- MSN Money

Thousands of French Households Taxed Over 100%

Taxes on some wealthy French top 100 pct of income: paper | Reuters

See, most intelligent people like myself read the OP topic and say: "well, that's impossible, what would they live on -- "

Then we READ the article and see what REALLY happened.

The newspaper said that the exceptionally high level of taxation was due to a one-off levy last year on 2011 incomes for households with assets of more than 1.3 million euros ($1.67 million).

President Francois Hollande's Socialist government imposed the tax surcharge last year, shortly after taking office, to offset the impact of a rebate scheme created by its conservative predecessor to cap an individual's overall taxation at 50 percent of income.

The government has been forced to redraft a proposed bill to levy a temporary 75 percent tax on earnings over 1 million euros, which had been one of Hollande's campaign pledges.

The Constitutional Council has judged such a high rate of taxation to be unfair, leaving the government to rehash it to hit companies rather than individuals.

Oh well, so it's not true.

Thanks to the OP for another far-right FAIL.

 

[The T]

And these people that are getting taxed 100% plus are still living in France?
I would be gone in a heartbeat if that was the tax burden here.
Why work if all you did was hand your money over to the government.
This will start a massive underground market.

Always does...much like prohibition of the 1920's here in the States...Yeah Gubmints make mistakes...if they live to regret it...

 

[NightFox]

This is the Progressive Paradise.

Welcome to Forbes

Some of France's richest taxed more than 100%- MSN Money

Thousands of French Households Taxed Over 100%

Taxes on some wealthy French top 100 pct of income: paper | Reuters

See, most intelligent people like myself read the OP topic and say: "well, that's impossible, what would they live on -- "

Then we READ the article and see what REALLY happened.

The newspaper said that the exceptionally high level of taxation was due to a one-off levy last year on 2011 incomes for households with assets of more than 1.3 million euros ($1.67 million).

President Francois Hollande's Socialist government imposed the tax surcharge last year, shortly after taking office, to offset the impact of a rebate scheme created by its conservative predecessor to cap an individual's overall taxation at 50 percent of income.

The government has been forced to redraft a proposed bill to levy a temporary 75 percent tax on earnings over 1 million euros, which had been one of Hollande's campaign pledges.

The Constitutional Council has judged such a high rate of taxation to be unfair, leaving the government to rehash it to hit companies rather than individuals.

Oh well, so it's not true.

Thanks to the OP for another far-right FAIL.

That's what happened in France, where Reuters says more than 8,000 French households' tax bills topped 100% of their income last year. Business newspaper Les Echos, citing Finance Ministry data, reported Saturday that the huge tax hit stemmed from a one-off levy last year on 2011 incomes for households with assets of more than 1.3 million euros ($1.67 million).

Try reading the story again, this time paying attention to the DETAILS.

 

[Ernie S.]

OP- NOT actually happening, hater dupes..

France rated #1 in quality of life.

By who? Some commy newspaper in Paris?

 

[NightFox]

OP- NOT actually happening, hater dupes..

France rated #1 in quality of life.

By who? Some commy newspaper in Paris?

As usual he's lying, France isn't even in the top 15 (Australia is #1 according to The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development's Better Life Index)

Top Countries On OECD Better Life Index - Business Insider

 

[JoeB131]

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Sure, if you love huge bureaucracy, insane debt, and the government reading your emails and listening to your phone calls -- it's just dandy!

Of course, you and the way you loath freedom, really DO think those things are grand.

Hey, guy, I miss the freedom to be fired from my job if I get sick. Yeah, miss that freedom not one little bit.

So, you hate the idea of taking responsibility for your employment decisions.

Whiner.

I'm going to use really small words here because you are some kind of damaged RETARD.

When you go into McDonald's and order a Big Mac and they serve you a E. Coli laced shitburger, it isn't YOUR fault for eating there, it's THEIR fault for not providing the service promised.

When I bust my ass for 60 hours a week like I did on the job that cured me of Republican Lies, and insurance was part of the agreement as long as I performed as required, then it isn't my fault they welch on the deal, it's theirs. They didn't provide the service promised...

Employers can't be trusted with this, so we take it over. We the People! No insurance companies paying their asshole execs eight figures while they let people die of treatable diseases AFTER they paid insurance like

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So why weren't you whining about "insane debt" when Bush turned Clinton's surpluses into 6 trillion in War Debt?

Wasn't keen on it, but your rant is tempered by the "Clinton's surplus" nonsense.

Government was taking in more money than it was spending, and the debt went down. Surplus.

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Or when he was torturing useless information out of prisoners?

...which has absolutely NOTHING to do with this thread, but your hyperemotionalism had to spew something out, didn't it?

No, guy, the point of this thread was that we entered some kind of horrible world when the Black Guy got into the White House (which is what you are really mad about, ain't it?) But we aren't toruting people, we are getting out of wars, and we are fixing our health care woes.

 

[rdean]

Oh, now Republicans care about "France"? What happened to "Freedom Fries"?

 

[daveman]

Hey, guy, I miss the freedom to be fired from my job if I get sick. Yeah, miss that freedom not one little bit.

So, you hate the idea of taking responsibility for your employment decisions.

Whiner.

I'm going to use really small words here because you are some kind of damaged RETARD.

When you go into McDonald's and order a Big Mac and they serve you a E. Coli laced shitburger, it isn't YOUR fault for eating there, it's THEIR fault for not providing the service promised.

When I bust my ass for 60 hours a week like I did on the job that cured me of Republican Lies, and insurance was part of the agreement as long as I performed as required, then it isn't my fault they welch on the deal, it's theirs. They didn't provide the service promised...

Employers can't be trusted with this, so we take it over. We the People! No insurance companies paying their asshole execs eight figures while they let people die of treatable diseases AFTER they paid insurance like

If they didn't live up to their end of the contract, then you had grounds to sue.

Of course, if you were fired for cause, you wouldn't have grounds to sue.

If your behavior at work was anything like your behavior, here, you were fired for cause.

Government was taking in more money than it was spending, and the debt went down. Surplus.

No, it wasn't. It was an accounting trick. There was never any more money; it was just moved from one pile to another.

The Clinton Surplus Myth - Craig Steiner - Townhall Finance Conservative Columnists and Financial Commentary - Page 1

But, hey, suckers fell for it.

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Or when he was torturing useless information out of prisoners?

...which has absolutely NOTHING to do with this thread, but your hyperemotionalism had to spew something out, didn't it?

No, guy, the point of this thread was that we entered some kind of horrible world when the Black Guy got into the White House (which is what you are really mad about, ain't it?)

No, but that's what you've been programmed to believe, and you're not sophisticated enough to go against your programming.

But we aren't toruting people, we are getting out of wars, and we are fixing our health care woes.

Getting out of wars? Does the word "Syria" ring any bells?

And we're not fixing our health care woes. We're adding to them.

 

[daveman]

Oh, now Republicans care about "France"? What happened to "Freedom Fries"?

France can do what it likes, and live with the consequences of its failure.

What we're doing is pointing out that failure to people who believe we should emulate Europe.

For some reason, you don't like that.

 

[Unkotare]

Employers can't be trusted with this, so we take it over. We the People! .

There he goes again....the faceless chair-filler and his silly little wannabe Marxist fantasies that he would never have the balls to actually pursue...

 

[daveman]

Employers can't be trusted with this, so we take it over. We the People! .

There he goes again....the faceless chair-filler and his silly little wannabe Marxist fantasies that he would never have the balls to actually pursue...

Joe's a chickenred:

Someone who advocates Communism but is too cowardly to move to a Communist nation; who advocates the destruction of the US Constitution while hiding behind its protections; who condemns the American consumerism lifestyle while living that same lifestyle.

That woman at the protest handing out pro-Castro literature is a chickenred...she'd never move to Cuba.

 

[The T]

Employers can't be trusted with this, so we take it over. We the People! .

There he goes again....the faceless chair-filler and his silly little wannabe Marxist fantasies that he would never have the balls to actually pursue...

What's JOEY gonna DO when employers shut their doors and FIRE everyone?

 

[Unkotare]

Employers can't be trusted with this, so we take it over. We the People! .

There he goes again....the faceless chair-filler and his silly little wannabe Marxist fantasies that he would never have the balls to actually pursue...

What's JOEY gonna DO when employers shut their doors and FIRE everyone?

He'll gather unto him all his fellow proletariat and seize the means of production in a glorious revolution!

OR, he'll keep his mouth shut and continue to fill a chair to no effect, putting his head down and trying to look busy when the boss comes by. On those days he's feeling extra full of righteous rage he will grumble under his breath if he is absolutely sure no one is around.

 

[The T]

There he goes again....the faceless chair-filler and his silly little wannabe Marxist fantasies that he would never have the balls to actually pursue...

What's JOEY gonna DO when employers shut their doors and FIRE everyone?

He'll gather unto him all his fellow proletariat and seize the means of production in a glorious revolution!

OR, he'll keep his mouth shut and continue to fill a chair to no effect, putting his head down and trying to look busy when the boss comes by. On those days he's feeling extra full of righteous rage he will grumble under his breath if he is absolutely sure no one is around.

I'd say the latter and be quiet in his defeat. His days, and those he follows are drawing to a close.

 

[Immanuel]

Employers can't be trusted with this, so we take it over. We the People! .

There he goes again....the faceless chair-filler and his silly little wannabe Marxist fantasies that he would never have the balls to actually pursue...

What's JOEY gonna DO when employers shut their doors and FIRE everyone?

Blame Republicans, praise Obama.

Immie

 

[JoeB131]

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If they didn't live up to their end of the contract, then you had grounds to sue.

Of course, if you were fired for cause, you wouldn't have grounds to sue.

If your behavior at work was anything like your behavior, here, you were fired for cause.

I did have grounds to sue. In fact, they offered me a bunch of money as a severence package NOT to sue. generally, I don't sue people even if I have cause.

What seems to confuse your ape brain is that political alignment has anything to do with work performance. I know liberals who are fantastic at their jobs. I know conservatives I wouldn't trust to file paperwork. Especially the religious conservatives, who are usually lacking the critical thinking skills to solve problems.

Point was, I got six years of excellent reviews, including the last year. Nope, it really was all about the $60,000 in medical bills I ran up in 2007. And I'm not the only guy they did this to. Another guy had a muscle disconnect and was on disability for months. Despite being their 20 years, they let him go at the first oppurtunity they legally could. They let you go if you were pregnant and they let you go if you were too old.

And if the GOP thinks this is okay under the guise of freedom, the sooner they are wiped out politically, the better.

No, it wasn't. It was an accounting trick. There was never any more money; it was just moved from one pile to another.


But, hey, suckers fell for it.

Uh, guy, there was more money. This was the point. You had 4% unemployment and record stock markets and the rich were paying their fair share. More money was coming in than going out. The "accounting trick" you talk about had been going on since LBJ and it is still going on now. Clinton was the only guy who actually made it work.

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No, guy, the point of this thread was that we entered some kind of horrible world when the Black Guy got into the White House (which is what you are really mad about, ain't it?)

No, but that's what you've been programmed to believe, and you're not sophisticated enough to go against your programming.

Uh, no, I read your posts. Just because you aren't screaming the N-word, you still aren't fooling anyone. Obama got elected, and you guys completely lost your shit.

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But we aren't toruting people, we are getting out of wars, and we are fixing our health care woes.

Getting out of wars? Does the word "Syria" ring any bells?

And we're not fixing our health care woes. We're adding to them.

No, actually, we're fixing them. That Employers can't cheat their employees anymore with sub-standard insurance is a VAST improvement. The fact insurance companies can't call Acne a pre-existing condition to deny cancer treatment is an AWESOME improvement.

True, it's not single payer and getting the employers and insurance companies out of the picture, yet.

 

[eflatminor]

See, most intelligent people like myself read the OP topic and say: "well, that's impossible, what would they live on -- "

Then we READ the article and see what REALLY happened.

The newspaper said that the exceptionally high level of taxation was due to a one-off levy last year on 2011 incomes for households with assets of more than 1.3 million euros ($1.67 million).

President Francois Hollande's Socialist government imposed the tax surcharge last year, shortly after taking office, to offset the impact of a rebate scheme created by its conservative predecessor to cap an individual's overall taxation at 50 percent of income.

The government has been forced to redraft a proposed bill to levy a temporary 75 percent tax on earnings over 1 million euros, which had been one of Hollande's campaign pledges.

The Constitutional Council has judged such a high rate of taxation to be unfair, leaving the government to rehash it to hit companies rather than individuals.

Oh well, so it's not true.

Thanks to the OP for another far-right FAIL.

Wow, you really are as batshit stupid as you appear. The French government being forced to redraft their previous attempt at a 75% marginal rate is a separate issue to the one off 100% levy that was imposed. The story is in fact, true.

Do you ever tire of being so damn wrong? Is it your blind bias that makes you so stupid, or were you born that way? Anyway, good luck with all that...

 

[daveman]

Employers can't be trusted with this, so we take it over. We the People! .

There he goes again....the faceless chair-filler and his silly little wannabe Marxist fantasies that he would never have the balls to actually pursue...

What's JOEY gonna DO when employers shut their doors and FIRE everyone?

Whine impotently on the internet about how the world owes him a living.

In other words, nothing will change.

 

[JoeB131]

There he goes again....the faceless chair-filler and his silly little wannabe Marxist fantasies that he would never have the balls to actually pursue...

What's JOEY gonna DO when employers shut their doors and FIRE everyone?

Whine impotently on the internet about how the world owes him a living.

In other words, nothing will change.

Again, you work on the assumption that employers create jobs. They don't. Consumer Demand does.

Let's go back to the original example. A rich guy can try to sell Shitburgers, could invest huge amounts of money making them and a expensive campaign selling them.

But at the end of the day, there's no demand for shitburgers. The annals of business are full of failures that someone with money thought we really just wanted and didn't.

Nope, what creates jobs are demand.

Now, we do have a few problems, because we allow the rich and their bad behavior. We let them talk us into bad trade treaties that moved good jobs overseas instead of demanding the jobs be kept here.

And we've allowed automation even in areas where automation, while cheaper, isn't better.

In short, the rich keep promising prosperity if we keep bending over, but they never deliver...

Time to stop bending over for them.

 

[daveman]

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If they didn't live up to their end of the contract, then you had grounds to sue.

Of course, if you were fired for cause, you wouldn't have grounds to sue.

If your behavior at work was anything like your behavior, here, you were fired for cause.

I did have grounds to sue. In fact, they offered me a bunch of money as a severence package NOT to sue. generally, I don't sue people even if I have cause.

So, you either had grounds, but didn't sue...or was fired for cause and couldn't sue.

Either way, it's your own damn fault, isn't it?

So stop whining about it.

What seems to confuse your ape brain is that political alignment has anything to do with work performance. I know liberals who are fantastic at their jobs. I know conservatives I wouldn't trust to file paperwork. Especially the religious conservatives, who are usually lacking the critical thinking skills to solve problems.

When you use your own bigotry to prove a point, all you prove is that you're a bigot.

Point was, I got six years of excellent reviews, including the last year. Nope, it really was all about the $60,000 in medical bills I ran up in 2007. And I'm not the only guy they did this to. Another guy had a muscle disconnect and was on disability for months. Despite being their 20 years, they let him go at the first oppurtunity they legally could. They let you go if you were pregnant and they let you go if you were too old.

I repeat: You had grounds, but didn't sue. It's your own damn fault. Stop whining about it.

And if the GOP thinks this is okay under the guise of freedom, the sooner they are wiped out politically, the better.

I DON'T think it's okay. But you, you chicken, refused to hold them accountable for their actions. The government can't do anything about it if they don't know about it.

And you didn't tell them. It's your own damn fault. Stop whining about it.

No, it wasn't. It was an accounting trick. There was never any more money; it was just moved from one pile to another.


But, hey, suckers fell for it.

Uh, guy, there was more money. This was the point. You had 4% unemployment and record stock markets and the rich were paying their fair share. More money was coming in than going out. The "accounting trick" you talk about had been going on since LBJ and it is still going on now. Clinton was the only guy who actually made it work.

The link showed proof of my claim. Your claims are bullshit. Dismissed.

Uh, no, I read your posts. Just because you aren't screaming the N-word, you still aren't fooling anyone. Obama got elected, and you guys completely lost your shit.

Because we knew he'd be a crappy President.

And we were right.

Just because you can't support his policies with facts and logic doesn't mean the rest of us who object to those policies are racist. That spurious charge stems from your own failings and lack of critical thought.

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But we aren't toruting people, we are getting out of wars, and we are fixing our health care woes.

Getting out of wars? Does the word "Syria" ring any bells?

And we're not fixing our health care woes. We're adding to them.

No, actually, we're fixing them. That Employers can't cheat their employees anymore with sub-standard insurance is a VAST improvement. The fact insurance companies can't call Acne a pre-existing condition to deny cancer treatment is an AWESOME improvement.

Yeah. Meanwhile, back in reality, there are more patients -- but there aren't any more doctors.

Do the math.

Further, I can't help but notice that you utterly failed to address my point about Syria.

Coward.

True, it's not single payer and getting the employers and insurance companies out of the picture, yet.

Did I ever tell you Communists are stupid? True story!