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Foxconn. OK, we lied.

Mac-7

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That may be the only way to stop things like this but it didn't fail.
It did not produce 13,000 jobs

and it added nothing to the manufacturing supply chain

foreign countries are much better at government intervention into the marketplace than we are

I want to see more products we consume in America made in America

And failing that I want to break the supply chain from china

that will probably involve more government intervention but if so it has to be smarter than what we have now
 
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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
 
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That may be the only way to stop things like this but it didn't fail.
It did not produce 13,000 jobs

and it added nothing to the manufacturing supply chain

foreign countries are much better at government intervention into the marketplace than we are

I want to see more products we consume in America made in America

And failing that I want to break the supply chain from china

that will probably involve more government intervention but if so it has to be smarter than what we have now

Producing more things in America is great. They never were going to hire 13,000. That was a lie.
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
you said they were receiving payments,, is that true or not??

simple tax breaks are not socialism,,
 

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They never were going to hire 13,000. That was a lie.
They might have if trump were still president

but now the big stick is gone

what is your vision for the future?

if we make nothing how to we maintain our high standard of living?
 
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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
you said they were receiving payments,, is that true or not??

simple tax breaks are not socialism,,

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
you said they were receiving payments,, is that true or not??

simple tax breaks are not socialism,,

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.
did they receive tax payer funds or not???

keeping your own money is not a subsidy,,
 
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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
you said they were receiving payments,, is that true or not??

simple tax breaks are not socialism,,

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.
did they receive tax payer funds or not???

keeping your own money is not a subsidy,,

The article states subsidy.
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
you said they were receiving payments,, is that true or not??

simple tax breaks are not socialism,,

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.
did they receive tax payer funds or not???

keeping your own money is not a subsidy,,

The article states subsidy.
but you said they are receiving payments,,

dont care what the article says cause tax breaks arent subsidies,,,
 
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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
you said they were receiving payments,, is that true or not??

simple tax breaks are not socialism,,

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.
did they receive tax payer funds or not???

keeping your own money is not a subsidy,,

The article states subsidy.
but you said they are receiving payments,,

dont care what the article says cause tax breaks arent subsidies,,,

I don't believe I ever used the word "payments". If tax breaks aren't subsidies then tax breaks aren't what are being discussed.
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
you said they were receiving payments,, is that true or not??

simple tax breaks are not socialism,,

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.
did they receive tax payer funds or not???

keeping your own money is not a subsidy,,

The article states subsidy.
but you said they are receiving payments,,

dont care what the article says cause tax breaks arent subsidies,,,

I don't believe I ever used the word "payments". If tax breaks aren't subsidies then tax breaks aren't what are being discussed.
so if we arent talking about tax breaks all thats left is payments,,

not seeing where they are receiving payments do you??
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
you said they were receiving payments,, is that true or not??

simple tax breaks are not socialism,,
especially when they have to pay the tax breaks back since they breached the contract!!

but let's face it, the OP didn't get beyond the headline so he could attack private sector businesses
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
you said they were receiving payments,, is that true or not??

simple tax breaks are not socialism,,
especially when they have to pay the tax breaks back since they breached the contract!!

but let's face it, the OP didn't get beyond the headline so he could attack private sector businesses
why pay them back if you never used them??
 

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How are you making a comparison of a company that isn't producing something to Amazon? Either way I hope you keep your thinking when it comes to the massive subsidies coming for green energy jobs.
Foxconn manufactures electronics.
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
It was about tax breaks. Not receiving tax payer funds.
Who do you think makes up for the missing revenue? The tooth fairy?
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
It was about tax breaks. Not receiving tax payer funds.
Who do you think makes up for the missing revenue? The tooth fairy?
I have already covered this stupid argument in an earlier post.
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
It was about tax breaks. Not receiving tax payer funds.
Who do you think makes up for the missing revenue? The tooth fairy?
thats on the government to cut spending not bill someone else,,
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
It was about tax breaks. Not receiving tax payer funds.
So you are saying that a company receiving tax subsidies from state and federal governments isn't the same as them receiving tax payer money??

Then how come all of the whining about state and federal government subsidizing stuff like Medicaid?? I have heard that referred to many times as people getting taxpayer money for free healthcare
You are comparing tax breaks to medicaid subsidizing? :lol:
These businesses are also being subsidized...you do understand that right??
Keeping more of your money isnt being subsidized, you ridiculous dumbfuck.
Bullshit!!! When you're avoiding taxes everyone else pays you're being subsidized.
 
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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
not seeing where either was receiving tax payer funds,, could you point i out for us??

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.

Corporate subsidy by the state.
subsidies in the way of what?? did they receive payments from the tax payer or not??
what is it you disagree with about the question?? or is it you dont want to answer because it debunks your narrative??

I stated what I disagree with. Corporate socialism.
you said they were receiving payments,, is that true or not??

simple tax breaks are not socialism,,

But some ideas make so little economic sense that even the largest corporate subsidy ever awarded by a state government isn't enough.
did they receive tax payer funds or not???

keeping your own money is not a subsidy,,

The article states subsidy.
but you said they are receiving payments,,

dont care what the article says cause tax breaks arent subsidies,,,

I don't believe I ever used the word "payments". If tax breaks aren't subsidies then tax breaks aren't what are being discussed.
so if we arent talking about tax breaks all thats left is payments,,

not seeing where they are receiving payments do you??

I've already provided the quotes for you.
 

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This is a bigger argument than this one case. What we see here is a company making grand promises to get huge socialist programs to finance them from the taxpayers. They promise the world but realities are far different.

Foxconn Finally Admits It Won't Create 13,000 Jobs in Wisconsin

This is why I fully supported AOC coming out and telling Amazon NO on their demands on taxpayers funds. There was no way their promises were ever going to come to fruition. It's odd at how those who condemn government socialism so quickly support things like this.

If you have a business, the taxpayers should never be on the hook for your costs.
It was about tax breaks. Not receiving tax payer funds.
So you are saying that a company receiving tax subsidies from state and federal governments isn't the same as them receiving tax payer money??

Then how come all of the whining about state and federal government subsidizing stuff like Medicaid?? I have heard that referred to many times as people getting taxpayer money for free healthcare
You are comparing tax breaks to medicaid subsidizing? :lol:
These businesses are also being subsidized...you do understand that right??
Keeping more of your money isnt being subsidized, you ridiculous dumbfuck.
Bullshit!!! When you're avoiding taxes everyone else pays you're being subsidized.
not true,, its money that never existed before and doesnt exist now,,
 

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