Fox settles admitting they provided fake news about Dominion

[BackAgain]

Update: the thread headline is still a lie.

 

[Delldude]

Wrong

I know that was the best TV show you ever saw......but that was all it was.

 

[Skylar]

DOJ does their own investigations. Nothing in the J6 politically motivated, biased "investigation" will be entered into or used as evidence.

It's just that biased.

Jack Smith isn't an idiot.

Testimony is testimony. If testimony given at J6 was useful to Jack's investigation, you can be sure he'd use it.

Video is video. If a video collected by the J6 committee was useful to Jack's investigation, you can be sure he'd use that too.

 

[mak2]

So Jan 6 was just a normal tourist day or, if not, it was ANTIFA BLM pretending to be Trumpsters. And Fox agreed to fork over $787 mill just cause they are too busy to go to court. Is this where we are at on this thread now?

 

[Rambunctious]

You can't win in blue city courts with blue city block heads in the jury.....

 

[Delldude]

Testimony is testimony. If testimony given at J6 was useful to Jack's investigation, you can be sure he'd use it.

Video is video. If a video collected by the J6 committee was useful to Jack's investigation, you can be sure he'd use that too.

Jack knows everything from the J6 group is politically tainted. Before he would use 'testimony' he'd bring in the person and depose him again.

That simple.

 

[lantern2814]

Seriously? What planet do you live n? Dominion had a great case. To go to trial means 2 things. 1) the award is at the whim of the jury and 2) Fox would appeal.

A jury would have found in favour of Dominion, but could have awarded anywhere between $1 and $1.6b. It's a sound business decision. You get half of what you asked for, immediately.

They didn’t get half. Meaning they weren’t confident. They were going to lose. Period. Great case? Hahahahaha!

 

[lantern2814]

They never mentioned this ruling on OANN or NewsMax, did they? You're wholly ignorant of the findings of the court on falsity, because you only consume sources that IGNORE it. And even now, refuse to read it.

With the $787,000,000 settlement against Fox, hows ignoring the court ruling working out for you?

Oh, and for those that aren't desperately, habitually and willfully ignorant, here are multiple media outlets with the same quote I've offered.

Dominion didn’t need a trial for a victory over Fox

Fox News will pay $787.5 million to Dominion Voting Systems to settle a defamation lawsuit that was just about to go to trial. While technically not a win for Dominion, it’s hard to see the settlement any other way.

www.yahoo.com

What you need to know about the Dominion v. Fox News trial

The voting machine company was the subject of baseless conspiracies as Donald Trump and his allies relentlessly pushed the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

www.nbcnews.com

Dominion Settlement Is Just the Beginning of Fox’s Nightmare

The $787.5M settlement in the Dominion lawsuit will lead to further litigation and controversy for Fox and Rupert Murdoch, writes Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and Steven Tian

time.com

Showing your stupidity again. There was no trial. Therefore there were no court findings. Remember you’re an asshole who knows nothing. Remain ignorant.

 

[FA_Q2]

They didn’t get half. Meaning they weren’t confident. They were going to lose. Period. Great case? Hahahahaha!

Yes, fantastic case.

Dominion's total value, if we go conservatively, was a paltry 250 million. Fox just paid the largest defamation settlement in history to a company that was, at best, worth less than one third of the settlement.

They paid a premium so they could avoid testimony.

 

[Faun]

Jack knows everything from the J6 group is politically tainted. Before he would use 'testimony' he'd bring in the person and depose him again.

That simple.

How is testimony and video tainted?

 

[Faun]

They didn’t get half. Meaning they weren’t confident. They were going to lose. Period. Great case? Hahahahaha!

If it was such a certainty they were going to lose, Fox wouldn't have settled and acknowledged the court's judgement of falsity.

 

[brokedickdog]

750 million dollars of evidence ... do you honestly think Fox News is going to give them 750 million out of the kindness of their heart you are stupid ... here's your shred of evidence...

One of the year’s most hotly anticipated trials reached a stunning conclusion before it even began. Poised to face off in the courtroom this afternoon, with jury selection complete, Dominion Voting Systems and Fox News instead reached a settlement. The last-minute agreement makes clear just how sticky a situation Fox was headed for if the trial did occur.


Lawyers for Dominion announced that Fox News (and parent company Fox Corporation) had agreed to settle the case for $787.5 million — less than half of Dominion’s claim for $1.6 billion in damages but nevertheless a historic rebuke for the influential conservative media outlet.

The massive payout reflects the fact that Dominion had put together a strong case that Fox had acted with “actual malice,” a high bar under defamation law that has historically been difficult for plaintiffs suing media outlets to satisfy. Dominion’s considerable success in this case indicates that Fox acutely understood that there was a high risk that the jury would side with Dominion on this crucial legal point. The settlement also spares the network from weeks of embarrassing testimony that would have put the widespread internal dysfunction at Fox News on full public display.

Dominion had alleged that the network defamed the election technology company in the wake of the 2020 election, focusing on a series of segments in which Fox hosts allowed lawyers affiliated with Donald Trump to falsely claim that the company had rigged the election against the former president. After two years of pretrial litigation, the network found itself struggling to defend itself: A recent decision by presiding judge Eric M. Davis substantially bolstered Dominion’s position heading into trial by concluding that the evidence from pretrial discovery had already established that several key issues — including whether the claims at issue were actually false — were indisputable at trial. The ruling was a major win for Dominion and a major loss for Fox, which no doubt helps to explain today’s settlement.
Before the settlement was announced, there were some unexpected antics that appeared to provide even more reason to think that Fox was in for a very rough ride if the case had gone forward. Caley Cronin, a spokesperson for Fox News, was thrown out of the Wilmington, Del. courtroom after she violated a court order that prohibited taking photographs in the courtroom. It was just the latest embarrassing incident in which representatives for the network had antagonized the judge, who had otherwise drawn praise from observers for his steady hand and even temperament presiding over the case.

The trial was expected to focus on whether Fox News or Fox Corporation acted with “actual malice” in disseminating the false claims against Dominion. Under Supreme Court precedent, this would have required Dominion to show that individuals responsible for broadcasting the segments either knew that they were false or acted with “reckless disregard” as to the falsity of the claims.


This has traditionally been a very difficult standard for defamation plaintiffs to satisfy, since First Amendment law generally provides wide latitude to media organizations engaged in traditional newsgathering, but legal analysts broadly agreed that Dominion had put together an unusually compelling case on this point. In particular, the company’s lawyers amassed internal communications among Fox executives, hosts, and employees with editorial responsibilities in which they appeared to acknowledge in real time and to varying degrees that the claims aired against Dominion were false. Those communications involved some of the most prominent people at the network, including Rupert Murdoch himself and primetime hosts Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham. The prospect of these people taking the witness stand and having to explain them away could not have been appealing for Fox.


One reason that Dominion succeeded in getting this far while other defamation plaintiffs have not is that the underlying false claims made against the company were unusually ridiculous — like the assertion that former Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez had played a key role in creating the company, or that Dominion had a secret algorithm that allowed it to switch votes from Trump to Joe Biden. The company’s lawyers also appeared to have succeeded in casting a wide net in the course of discovery, which allowed them to obtain the internal communications that became central to the case. Murdoch, for instance, at one point watched the infamous press conference hosted by Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell in November 2020 in which they peddled similar falsehoods. The network’s owner wrote, “Really crazy stuff. And damaging.” There were plenty more of these colorful and embarrassing exchanges among the network’s boldface names.


In recent months, Fox had insisted that a victory for Dominion would pose a broader threat to media protections in this country, but it is not clear whether or to what extent this is correct. The reason is that, despite hundreds of pages of pretrial filings, Fox never managed to identify a single instance of legitimate newsgathering that would have been credibly endangered in the future if Dominion prevailed, as the company has now done. And, of course, the backdrop here is that Fox’s business model has for years drawn intense criticism from media analysts who have argued that the network routinely crosses the boundaries of responsible reporting by pandering to its mostly conservative audience and elevating dubious but politically convenient claims.


The settlement appears to have less to do with other media outlets than it does with the particularly outrageous facts and circumstances surrounding the conduct of Fox, its executives, and employees toward Dominion. This was a stunning case of media malpractice, and Fox is now paying for it.

"750 million dollars of evidence ... do you honestly think Fox News is going to give them 750 million out of the kindness of their heart you are stupid ... here's your shred of evidence..."

No need to get personally insulting.

Speaking of "stupid" when did I ever say "Fox News is going to give them 750 million out of the kindness of their heart [sic]"? Nope. I never said any such thing.

Jackass.

 

[krichton]

Obviously neither did Dominion think they would prevail in getting 1.6 billion so they settled for half better than risking nothing. The settlement is done now Dominion gets something, had they not settled and Fox appealed and won, Dominion wouldn't have gotten jack. And what did they get? A settlement on an opinion news program giving their opinions but perhaps just didn't make it clear enough they were just GIVING an opinion!

Anyone who has ever negotiated a deal never asks for exactly what they deserve in the opening. It's always a higher number that they fully expect to come down in case of a settlement offer, or in some cases the Judge will decide a lower award. Fox settled because they had no case. They knew it, dominion knew it and the judge knew it, in all pretrial hearings.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The sad thing is that the Republican voters new the Fox News stuff was nuts and false and lies yet they did not care.

 

[toobfreak]

The sad thing is that the Republican voters new the Fox News stuff was nuts and false and lies yet they did not care.

Sounds a lot like you making excuses for Joe Biden just because he's a democrat.

 

[krichton]

Game.........Set............Match.

Lies made up to support the original lie aren't facts or evidence. None of what you've posted has been verified or proven. They're just claims, that any member of Trump's cult is willing to make in order to support that orange fool. Want to hear something funny? Trump doesn't even believe it, but he just lies because he can and it's what he does. However, with that said, he hired a team anyway to find any evidence of tampering to support his made up fantasies, and they came back with literally nothing. Just like they did the first time when he hired ppl to find evidence of illegal votes in his win against Hillary. I mean honestly, how gullible are you people??

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The MAGA knows the Big Steal and all that are lies but they don't care. Because they don't believe in America or its values.

If they are ever stupid enough to rise up, the rest of the country from citizens to LEO to military will put them down. Permanently.

And they know it.

That is why all the impotent, incelish anger.

 

[FA_Q2]

Anyone who has ever negotiated a deal never asks for exactly what they deserve in the opening. It's always a higher number that they fully expect to come down in case of a settlement offer, or in some cases the Judge will decide a lower award. Fox settled because they had no case. They knew it, dominion knew it and the judge knew it, in all pretrial hearings.

It was not because they had no case. I am fairly sure they would have ridden it out even without a case as the final decision would have been far lower IMHO considering the total value of Dominion and historical awards in the past.

They settled because putting their talking heads on the stand would have been devastating and lead to months and months of coverage from the rest of the media showing those same heads stating they were directly lying. The settlement is damaging enough but, as you can clearly see from this thread, the partisans can ad hoc almost anything to ensure they do not have to admit they believe a lie.

It says a lot that they thought avoiding that was worth almost a billion dollars up front.

 

[krichton]

It was not because they had no case. I am fairly sure they would have ridden it out even without a case as the final decision would have been far lower IMHO considering the total value of Dominion and historical awards in the past.

They settled because putting their talking heads on the stand would have been devastating and lead to months and months of coverage from the rest of the media showing those same heads stating they were directly lying. The settlement is damaging enough but, as you can clearly see from this thread, the partisans can ad hoc almost anything to ensure they do not have to admit they believe a lie.

It says a lot that they thought avoiding that was worth almost a billion dollars up front.

Well, it's hard to say if the Judge would have awarded a lower amount because this wasn't just a defamation case against a company but an attack on our democracy. I think the judge would have potentially weighed that into the final verdict and possibly awarded either the full amount or something near it. Can you imagine an 80 million company getting 1.6 billion in a lawsuit? LOL

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Those here who argued that the agreement Fox made to hand 3/4 of a billion dollars to Dominion to settle Dominion’s suit that Fox and its anchors lied and defamed them was somehow a victory for Fox [!] look ever more moronic.

Tucker has now been fired, Fox’s stock value is falling rapidly, and it’s popularity with Trump cultists is collapsing.

Perhaps Lastamender and protectionist can find some comfort in the fact that today the lately remarkably lackluster CNN host Don Lemon was also fired?