Founder's Supported Law and Order

You cannot populate your nation with cultures and people whose value systems are highly divergent from your own, and expect to remain a cohesive nation state for long. You cannot permit cultures to come to your nations and not integrate and assimilate into your culture and remain a cohesive nation for long.
Once these cultures begin to populate in large numbers and then gain a seat at the table of power they will irreparably alter your nation state for good.
Concurrently, those same peoples who were permitted open access to your culture will begin to hate those who permitted them that access for the power which they perceive as bias against them.
They will occupy your offices of power and they will use those offices to eventually remove you.
This happened in Rome, this happened in Brazil. This has happened in South Africa..it is currently happening in Western Europe.
You are hated. Wake the fuck up.

I don't know how many times I can post the same shit...lol!

No one said time stands still. Did you think it would?
The world is about who wins. The Constitution of the United States is a document. But it has a flaw. It never would have been ratified otherwise at that time. Documents do not come that often in this world that are mostly followed. For sure we have issues. The world is littered with Constitutions that are not followed much at all. When the Western Hemisphere was settled, it was the English who had the Rule of Law and the Magna Carta as at least some rights for the peasants. And the land was still settled by people who were derided from that nation. What other nations at that time had social contracts with the people? And if we have a new one, what exactly will be in it? You guys do not want a Republic, that is for sure. A Democracy was instituted in place of the Republic as to see what we have today. It is a shame as we reduced a lot of bigotry and real racism and at the same time sold out many of our freedoms. They are difficult to get back. At least peacefully.

A Republic is a government in which power resides in The People. Democracy is the way we choose its leaders. We have a representative democracy, also known as a democratic republic.

Don't tell me I don't want a Republic. That's just saying stuff.
So then instead of a looting mob they should go through their members of Congress. They have a right to vote and elect people to represent them instead of being a violent faction violating the rights of others especially property which is what Locke and later the Founders were most concerned with.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.

..I've said it a million times--the blacks/left LOVE criminals for some reason


You can say it a million more, and it will still just be stupid shit. Repetition won't make it true.

I have to repeat because it is true it just doesn't sink in to imbecile who is posting with emotions and completely detached from the truth of the Founders own words.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.


Agents of the State murdered a man in broad daylight, in front of witnesses. What did Locke say about that?

Yeap...and for this our political leadership should applaud, kneel to and submit to the mob?
Are you fucking retarded or just pretending?


I asked what Locke had to say about it. It seemed important to the OP.

Your whining about cultural diversity is a few hundred years late.





And your

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Liberals will ignore this post because it wasn't reported by CNN and MSNBC. They can't stand being faced with reality.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.


Agents of the State murdered a man in broad daylight, in front of witnesses. What did Locke say about that?

dont change the subject,,,


Yeah, fine. View it in a vacuum - as if law and order only exists for 'the mob' and doesn't apply to the State.

Show me the state statute that says "black criminal are to be killed by police." More police officers are killed each year by criminals than blacks are killed by white police officers. Majority of black deaths are the result of black-on-black violence. Lawless mob is not addressing that...but I suppose it's easier blame racism as an excuse to rob and loot.


I didn't say 'black man', I said man.

The Federalist Paper you linked says,

"There are two methods of curing the mischiefs of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by controlling its effects.
There are again two methods of removing the causes of faction: the one, by destroying the liberty which is essential to its existence; the other, by giving to every citizen the same opinions, the same passions, and the same interests."

You only want to focus on controlling the mob, without considering that a longer-term solution is removing the causes.

Also, while you're opining on the Founders, they didn't support a Standing Army for precisely the reason for which Trump intends to use it.


I'm curious. Why do you think the founders didn't want a standing army?
 
You cannot populate your nation with cultures and people whose value systems are highly divergent from your own, and expect to remain a cohesive nation state for long. You cannot permit cultures to come to your nations and not integrate and assimilate into your culture and remain a cohesive nation for long.
Once these cultures begin to populate in large numbers and then gain a seat at the table of power they will irreparably alter your nation state for good.
Concurrently, those same peoples who were permitted open access to your culture will begin to hate those who permitted them that access for the power which they perceive as bias against them.
They will occupy your offices of power and they will use those offices to eventually remove you.
This happened in Rome, this happened in Brazil. This has happened in South Africa..it is currently happening in Western Europe.
You are hated. Wake the fuck up.

I don't know how many times I can post the same shit...lol!
Well said.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.

..I've said it a million times--the blacks/left LOVE criminals for some reason


You can say it a million more, and it will still just be stupid shit. Repetition won't make it true.

..blacks loot/burn/riot FOR criminals
..I feel better when a criminal [ any color ] is dead
...blacks HONOR criminals--it's one of the reasons black culture is self destructive
here--blacks HONORING criminals:
police/article_a5f5e396-ca04-5e88-961f-b4c0234eb231.html
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John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.

Lol, that's seriously debatable.

No it's not. Why don't you take the time to read Federalist No.10 and listen to the Yale lecture on Locke. But you are too intellectually lazy to do so.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.

..I've said it a million times--the blacks/left LOVE criminals for some reason


You can say it a million more, and it will still just be stupid shit. Repetition won't make it true.Y

I have to repeat because it is true it just doesn't sink in to imbecile who is posting with emotions and completely detached from the truth of the Founders own words.


That post was to harmonica's idiotic post, but you're welcome to it.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.

Lol, that's seriously debatable.

No it's not. Why don't you take the time to read Federalist No.10 and listen to the Yale lecture on Locke. But you are too intellectually lazy to do so.

..he's a typical dumbass leftists that LOVE criminals for some reason
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.


Agents of the State murdered a man in broad daylight, in front of witnesses. What did Locke say about that?

dont change the subject,,,


Yeah, fine. View it in a vacuum - as if law and order only exists for 'the mob' and doesn't apply to the State.

Show me the state statute that says "black criminal are to be killed by police." More police officers are killed each year by criminals than blacks are killed by white police officers. Majority of black deaths are the result of black-on-black violence. Lawless mob is not addressing that...but I suppose it's easier blame racism as an excuse to rob and loot.


I didn't say 'black man', I said man.

The Federalist Paper you linked says,

"There are two methods of curing the mischiefs of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by controlling its effects.
There are again two methods of removing the causes of faction: the one, by destroying the liberty which is essential to its existence; the other, by giving to every citizen the same opinions, the same passions, and the same interests."

You only want to focus on controlling the mob, without considering that a longer-term solution is removing the causes.

Also, while you're opining on the Founders, they didn't support a Standing Army for precisely the reason for which Trump intends to use it.


I'm curious. Why do you think the founders didn't want a standing army?


In June of 1787, James Madison addressed the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on the dangers of a permanent army. “A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty,” he argued. “The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home."

That 'overgrown executive' was prescient.

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John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.

..I've said it a million times--the blacks/left LOVE criminals for some reason


You can say it a million more, and it will still just be stupid shit. Repetition won't make it true.

..blacks loot/burn/riot FOR criminals
..I feel better when a criminal [ any color ] is dead
...blacks HONOR criminals--it's one of the reasons black culture is self destructive
here--blacks HONORING criminals:
police/article_a5f5e396-ca04-5e88-961f-b4c0234eb231.html
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Brown assaulted a police officer and went for his weapon. Totally justifiable shooting of fat fucking piece of criminal shit.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.

..I've said it a million times--the blacks/left LOVE criminals for some reason


You can say it a million more, and it will still just be stupid shit. Repetition won't make it true.Y

I have to repeat because it is true it just doesn't sink in to imbecile who is posting with emotions and completely detached from the truth of the Founders own words.


That post was to harmonica's idiotic post, but you're welcome to it.

hahhahahahh
......it's right there--blacks HONOR criminals ..no wonder Africa and US black cities are shitholes
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.

..I've said it a million times--the blacks/left LOVE criminals for some reason


You can say it a million more, and it will still just be stupid shit. Repetition won't make it true.

..blacks loot/burn/riot FOR criminals
..I feel better when a criminal [ any color ] is dead
...blacks HONOR criminals--it's one of the reasons black culture is self destructive
here--blacks HONORING criminals:
police/article_a5f5e396-ca04-5e88-961f-b4c0234eb231.html
View attachment 345687

Brown assaulted a police officer and went for his weapon. Totally justifiable shooting of fat fucking piece of criminal shit.

and that was after Brown attacked the clerk!!
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.


Agents of the State murdered a man in broad daylight, in front of witnesses. What did Locke say about that?

Yeap...and for this our political leadership should applaud, kneel to and submit to the mob?
Are you fucking retarded or just pretending?


I asked what Locke had to say about it. It seemed important to the OP.

Your whining about cultural diversity is a few hundred years late.



I would like to think that Locke would not have approved of permitting cultures divergent from our own with completely different value sets the opportunity to gain a controlling foothold on our culture...which they have.
SO...taking 250 years of 'cultural diversity' Locke's opinions do not resonate because fucking Locke was an Englishman living in a culturally homogeneous England. We are not culturally homogeneous.
SO...Locke's opinion...though valid to not take into context the factors we face presently.
You cannot populate your nation with cultures and people whose value systems are highly divergent from your own, and expect to remain a cohesive nation state for long. You cannot permit cultures to come to your nations and not integrate and assimilate into your culture and remain a cohesive nation for long.
Once these cultures begin to populate in large numbers and then gain a seat at the table of power they will irreparably alter your nation state for good.
Concurrently, those same peoples who were permitted open access to your culture will begin to hate those who permitted them that access for the power which they perceive as bias against them.
They will occupy your offices of power and they will use those offices to eventually remove you.
This happened in Rome, this happened in Brazil. This has happened in South Africa..it is currently happening in Western Europe.
You are hated. Wake the fuck up.

I don't know how many times I can post the same shit...lol!

No one said time stands still. Did you think it would?
The world is about who wins. The Constitution of the United States is a document. But it has a flaw. It never would have been ratified otherwise at that time. Documents do not come that often in this world that are mostly followed. For sure we have issues. The world is littered with Constitutions that are not followed much at all. When the Western Hemisphere was settled, it was the English who had the Rule of Law and the Magna Carta as at least some rights for the peasants. And the land was still settled by people who were derided from that nation. What other nations at that time had social contracts with the people? And if we have a new one, what exactly will be in it? You guys do not want a Republic, that is for sure. A Democracy was instituted in place of the Republic as to see what we have today. It is a shame as we reduced a lot of bigotry and real racism and at the same time sold out many of our freedoms. They are difficult to get back. At least peacefully.
I would love a Republic...i would love to see the nation as a true republic...I don't think people have seen that in a very long time.
As for 'racism' the founders understood the importance of it, as well as culture. They were not stupid. They saw the failings of other nations and understood the importance of homogeneity.
Your white guilt refuses to let you see it as well. You and others will rue the day.


I don't have white guilt, and the Founders didn't foresee the ramifications of the 3/5ths compromise. So much for homogeneity.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.


Agents of the State murdered a man in broad daylight, in front of witnesses. What did Locke say about that?

Yeap...and for this our political leadership should applaud, kneel to and submit to the mob?
Are you fucking retarded or just pretending?


I asked what Locke had to say about it. It seemed important to the OP.

Your whining about cultural diversity is a few hundred years late.



I would like to think that Locke would not have approved of permitting cultures divergent from our own with completely different value sets the opportunity to gain a controlling foothold on our culture...which they have.
SO...taking 250 years of 'cultural diversity' Locke's opinions do not resonate because fucking Locke was an Englishman living in a culturally homogeneous England. We are not culturally homogeneous.
SO...Locke's opinion...though valid to not take into context the factors we face presently.
You cannot populate your nation with cultures and people whose value systems are highly divergent from your own, and expect to remain a cohesive nation state for long. You cannot permit cultures to come to your nations and not integrate and assimilate into your culture and remain a cohesive nation for long.
Once these cultures begin to populate in large numbers and then gain a seat at the table of power they will irreparably alter your nation state for good.
Concurrently, those same peoples who were permitted open access to your culture will begin to hate those who permitted them that access for the power which they perceive as bias against them.
They will occupy your offices of power and they will use those offices to eventually remove you.
This happened in Rome, this happened in Brazil. This has happened in South Africa..it is currently happening in Western Europe.
You are hated. Wake the fuck up.

I don't know how many times I can post the same shit...lol!

No one said time stands still. Did you think it would?
The world is about who wins. The Constitution of the United States is a document. But it has a flaw. It never would have been ratified otherwise at that time. Documents do not come that often in this world that are mostly followed. For sure we have issues. The world is littered with Constitutions that are not followed much at all. When the Western Hemisphere was settled, it was the English who had the Rule of Law and the Magna Carta as at least some rights for the peasants. And the land was still settled by people who were derided from that nation. What other nations at that time had social contracts with the people? And if we have a new one, what exactly will be in it? You guys do not want a Republic, that is for sure. A Democracy was instituted in place of the Republic as to see what we have today. It is a shame as we reduced a lot of bigotry and real racism and at the same time sold out many of our freedoms. They are difficult to get back. At least peacefully.
I would love a Republic...i would love to see the nation as a true republic...I don't think people have seen that in a very long time.
As for 'racism' the founders understood the importance of it, as well as culture. They were not stupid. They saw the failings of other nations and understood the importance of homogeneity.
Your white guilt refuses to let you see it as well. You and others will rue the day.


I don't have white guilt, and the Founders didn't foresee the ramifications of the 3/5ths compromise. So much for homogeneity.

Yes you do. Oh yes you do. Yeah...those were slaves. They were not technically a part of society. They had no influence, no say. They affected nothing other than they were chattel.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.


Agents of the State murdered a man in broad daylight, in front of witnesses. What did Locke say about that?

Yeap...and for this our political leadership should applaud, kneel to and submit to the mob?
Are you fucking retarded or just pretending?


I asked what Locke had to say about it. It seemed important to the OP.

Your whining about cultural diversity is a few hundred years late.



I would like to think that Locke would not have approved of permitting cultures divergent from our own with completely different value sets the opportunity to gain a controlling foothold on our culture...which they have.
SO...taking 250 years of 'cultural diversity' Locke's opinions do not resonate because fucking Locke was an Englishman living in a culturally homogeneous England. We are not culturally homogeneous.
SO...Locke's opinion...though valid to not take into context the factors we face presently.
You cannot populate your nation with cultures and people whose value systems are highly divergent from your own, and expect to remain a cohesive nation state for long. You cannot permit cultures to come to your nations and not integrate and assimilate into your culture and remain a cohesive nation for long.
Once these cultures begin to populate in large numbers and then gain a seat at the table of power they will irreparably alter your nation state for good.
Concurrently, those same peoples who were permitted open access to your culture will begin to hate those who permitted them that access for the power which they perceive as bias against them.
They will occupy your offices of power and they will use those offices to eventually remove you.
This happened in Rome, this happened in Brazil. This has happened in South Africa..it is currently happening in Western Europe.
You are hated. Wake the fuck up.

I don't know how many times I can post the same shit...lol!

No one said time stands still. Did you think it would?
The world is about who wins. The Constitution of the United States is a document. But it has a flaw. It never would have been ratified otherwise at that time. Documents do not come that often in this world that are mostly followed. For sure we have issues. The world is littered with Constitutions that are not followed much at all. When the Western Hemisphere was settled, it was the English who had the Rule of Law and the Magna Carta as at least some rights for the peasants. And the land was still settled by people who were derided from that nation. What other nations at that time had social contracts with the people? And if we have a new one, what exactly will be in it? You guys do not want a Republic, that is for sure. A Democracy was instituted in place of the Republic as to see what we have today. It is a shame as we reduced a lot of bigotry and real racism and at the same time sold out many of our freedoms. They are difficult to get back. At least peacefully.
I would love a Republic...i would love to see the nation as a true republic...I don't think people have seen that in a very long time.
As for 'racism' the founders understood the importance of it, as well as culture. They were not stupid. They saw the failings of other nations and understood the importance of homogeneity.
Your white guilt refuses to let you see it as well. You and others will rue the day.

Locke supported a Dutch King against English King James II also Scot's, Irish and Welsh are not English. Do it was culturally diverse on Lockes time. Not to mention French, Spanish, Germans, Italians, Austrians etc.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.


Agents of the State murdered a man in broad daylight, in front of witnesses. What did Locke say about that?

Yeap...and for this our political leadership should applaud, kneel to and submit to the mob?
Are you fucking retarded or just pretending?


I asked what Locke had to say about it. It seemed important to the OP.

Your whining about cultural diversity is a few hundred years late.



I would like to think that Locke would not have approved of permitting cultures divergent from our own with completely different value sets the opportunity to gain a controlling foothold on our culture...which they have.
SO...taking 250 years of 'cultural diversity' Locke's opinions do not resonate because fucking Locke was an Englishman living in a culturally homogeneous England. We are not culturally homogeneous.
SO...Locke's opinion...though valid to not take into context the factors we face presently.
You cannot populate your nation with cultures and people whose value systems are highly divergent from your own, and expect to remain a cohesive nation state for long. You cannot permit cultures to come to your nations and not integrate and assimilate into your culture and remain a cohesive nation for long.
Once these cultures begin to populate in large numbers and then gain a seat at the table of power they will irreparably alter your nation state for good.
Concurrently, those same peoples who were permitted open access to your culture will begin to hate those who permitted them that access for the power which they perceive as bias against them.
They will occupy your offices of power and they will use those offices to eventually remove you.
This happened in Rome, this happened in Brazil. This has happened in South Africa..it is currently happening in Western Europe.
You are hated. Wake the fuck up.

I don't know how many times I can post the same shit...lol!

No one said time stands still. Did you think it would?
The world is about who wins. The Constitution of the United States is a document. But it has a flaw. It never would have been ratified otherwise at that time. Documents do not come that often in this world that are mostly followed. For sure we have issues. The world is littered with Constitutions that are not followed much at all. When the Western Hemisphere was settled, it was the English who had the Rule of Law and the Magna Carta as at least some rights for the peasants. And the land was still settled by people who were derided from that nation. What other nations at that time had social contracts with the people? And if we have a new one, what exactly will be in it? You guys do not want a Republic, that is for sure. A Democracy was instituted in place of the Republic as to see what we have today. It is a shame as we reduced a lot of bigotry and real racism and at the same time sold out many of our freedoms. They are difficult to get back. At least peacefully.
I would love a Republic...i would love to see the nation as a true republic...I don't think people have seen that in a very long time.
As for 'racism' the founders understood the importance of it, as well as culture. They were not stupid. They saw the failings of other nations and understood the importance of homogeneity.
Your white guilt refuses to let you see it as well. You and others will rue the day.


I don't have white guilt, and the Founders didn't foresee the ramifications of the 3/5ths compromise. So much for homogeneity.

Yes you do. Oh yes you do. Yeah...those were slaves. They were not technically a part of society. They had no influence, no say. They affected nothing other than they were chattel.


I'm an old man. I have no interest in others ignorantly telling me how I feel.
 
John Locke was an English political philosopher you said that citizens have a right to life, liberty, and property. Violent mobs violate all of them. People are being murdered by the mob, their liberty is being violated by a criminal element that violates the social contract of law and order and there property is being destroyed and stole. Locke said that man in his natural state is a dangerous uncontrolled entity so man creates government to have law and order.

Madison stated in Federalist Number 10 that the new Constitution was best for dealing with "factions" or reckless mobs like Shay's Rebellion. People have right to have their property protected.


Agents of the State murdered a man in broad daylight, in front of witnesses. What did Locke say about that?

Yeap...and for this our political leadership should applaud, kneel to and submit to the mob?
Are you fucking retarded or just pretending?


I asked what Locke had to say about it. It seemed important to the OP.

Your whining about cultural diversity is a few hundred years late.



I would like to think that Locke would not have approved of permitting cultures divergent from our own with completely different value sets the opportunity to gain a controlling foothold on our culture...which they have.
SO...taking 250 years of 'cultural diversity' Locke's opinions do not resonate because fucking Locke was an Englishman living in a culturally homogeneous England. We are not culturally homogeneous.
SO...Locke's opinion...though valid to not take into context the factors we face presently.
You cannot populate your nation with cultures and people whose value systems are highly divergent from your own, and expect to remain a cohesive nation state for long. You cannot permit cultures to come to your nations and not integrate and assimilate into your culture and remain a cohesive nation for long.
Once these cultures begin to populate in large numbers and then gain a seat at the table of power they will irreparably alter your nation state for good.
Concurrently, those same peoples who were permitted open access to your culture will begin to hate those who permitted them that access for the power which they perceive as bias against them.
They will occupy your offices of power and they will use those offices to eventually remove you.
This happened in Rome, this happened in Brazil. This has happened in South Africa..it is currently happening in Western Europe.
You are hated. Wake the fuck up.

I don't know how many times I can post the same shit...lol!

No one said time stands still. Did you think it would?
The world is about who wins. The Constitution of the United States is a document. But it has a flaw. It never would have been ratified otherwise at that time. Documents do not come that often in this world that are mostly followed. For sure we have issues. The world is littered with Constitutions that are not followed much at all. When the Western Hemisphere was settled, it was the English who had the Rule of Law and the Magna Carta as at least some rights for the peasants. And the land was still settled by people who were derided from that nation. What other nations at that time had social contracts with the people? And if we have a new one, what exactly will be in it? You guys do not want a Republic, that is for sure. A Democracy was instituted in place of the Republic as to see what we have today. It is a shame as we reduced a lot of bigotry and real racism and at the same time sold out many of our freedoms. They are difficult to get back. At least peacefully.
I would love a Republic...i would love to see the nation as a true republic...I don't think people have seen that in a very long time.
As for 'racism' the founders understood the importance of it, as well as culture. They were not stupid. They saw the failings of other nations and understood the importance of homogeneity.
Your white guilt refuses to let you see it as well. You and others will rue the day.


I don't have white guilt, and the Founders didn't foresee the ramifications of the 3/5ths compromise. So much for homogeneity.

Oh. Still talking about slavery and that issue was resolved in 1866 with passage of 13th, 14th and 15th Amendment's and slavery not relevant in 2020. Just an excuse to whine and bitch. There are no victim's in the United States. Greatest nation ever created with the best economic opportunity of any place on earth.
 

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