Former FBI Director James Comey: "86 47"

[struth]

People are welcome to make their own inferences and I doubt you have adequate insight to the minds of people who are not Trump devotees.

However, you cannot claim the meaning was explicit. Words have meaning and you’re clearly contradicting yourself.

what do you think is met by the phrase?

There has been a new study recently released on how assassination culture has taken over your party

https://networkcontagion.us/wp-content/uploads/NCRI-Assassination-Culture-Brief.pdf

Political violence targeting Donald Trump and Elon Musk is becoming increasingly normalized. Following the July 13, 2024 attempted assassination of President Trump, tolerance - and even advocacy - for political violence appears to have surged, especially
among politically left-leaning segments of the population. This pattern builds on a broader trend NCRI identified in two December 2024 reports which analyzed how viral social media narratives were legitimizing political violence, particularly in the aftermath of the UnitedHealthcare CEO’s assassination.1 The reports found widespread justification for lethal violence - including assassination - among younger, highly online, and ideologically left-aligned users. A spillover effect into offline domains is already occurring, as illustrated by a ballot measure recently submitted in California that is macabrely named “the Luigi Mangione Access to Health Care Act.”2 A broader “assassination culture” appears to be emerging within segments of the U.S. public on the extreme left, with expanding targets now including figures such as Donald Trump and Elon Musk. NCRI empirically assessed this shift with original survey data and open source intelligence analysis to assess how normalized and justified violence against the administration has become in public discourse. The findings signal a threat to political stability and public safety.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It isn’t ambiguous all that much.

So its prima facae ambiguous

threatening to murder the President is.

So now he threatened to murder the President?
.

 

[struth]

86 means kicked out and banned, not assassinated.

It means to murder or kill someone: Cassell's Dictionary of Slang

We all know what it means when referring to another person.

 

[struth]

So its prima facae ambiguous

So now he threatened to murder the President?
.

well yeah it was a threat, it didn't actually do it! geez man

keep up

 

[d0gbreath]

It means to murder or kill someone: Cassell's Dictionary of Slang

We all know what it means when referring to another person.

I've been 86'ed from a couple of bars in my life, yet here I am, alive.

 

[Foxfyre]

It isn’t ambiguous all that much. It boils down to “kill” him or to “impeach” him. Comey is obviously stuck on stupid.

Let’s assume that he didn’t put the shells in that formation. He merely took a photo of some other beachgoer’s handiwork, perhaps. What do you think he intended to convey by posting it?

Is Comey retarded though to urge yet another asshole impeachment effort? True, he is an asshole. So maybe. But I suspect that the self-serving piece of shit was advocating for something else.

The thing is that a former FBI Director would almost certainly explicitly see and understand something as a possible violent threat. As a possible lethal threat. And now for him to pretend he didn't see it that way when he made that post is just beyond all reason.

He has demonstrated corruption and dishonesty in the past which reinforces his lame attempt to pretend he didn't know 86 could mean violence.

". . .In the mafia, the term "86" refers to taking someone "eight miles out of town" and putting them "six feet under." . . ."

Even Meghan McCain, one of President Trump's most vocal critics, posted on X: "Don't know how this can be interpreted as any other way but a threat against President Trump. James Comey should at the very least get a visit from the secret service. Also is everyone mentally ill?"

What does "86" mean? White House reacts to James Comey's post

Trump allies and critics clashed online after the former FBI director posted a photo of a seashell formation reading "8647."

www.newsweek.com

 

[M14 Shooter]

No it was explicitly a collection of shells...and maybe bits of rock. One could see 86 47 if one squinted. one could see 8 647 if one squinted. Once could see 864 7 if one squinted. One could see 8767 if one squinted. One could just see a bunch of shells if one squinted.

Lie to yourself much?
Oh wait - yes you do.

 

[struth]

I've been 86'ed from a couple of bars in my life, yet here I am, alive.

You think Comey was trying to kick the President out of a bar? Doubtful, we all know Trump doesn't drink

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"to kill, to murder"
The assassination culture has overtaken the left...review this scientific study conducted by the NCRI on the topic: https://networkcontagion.us/wp-content/uploads/NCRI-Assassination-Culture-Brief.pdf
A broader “assassination culture” appears to be emerging within segments of the U.S. public on the extreme left, with expanding targets now including figures such as Donald Trump and Elon Musk. NCRI empirically assessed this shift with original survey data and open source intelligence analysis to assess how normalized and justified violence against the administration has become in public discourse. The findings signal a threat to political stability and public safety. Key data points include: ● Muder Justification: 31% and 38% of respondents stated it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk and President Trump, respectively. ○ These effects were largely driven by respondents that self-identified as left of center,3 with 48% and 55% at least somewhat justifying murder for Elon Musk and President Trump, respectively, indicating significantly higher justification for violence against these figures. ● Property Destruction: Nearly 40% of respondents (39.8%) stated it is at least somewhat acceptable (or more) to destroy a Tesla dealership in protest. ● Psychological/Ideological Correlations with Assassination Culture: These beliefs are highly correlated with one another, as well as with the justification of the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO and hyper-partisan left-wing ideology. ○ This suggests that support for violence is part of a broader assassination culture, underpinned by psychological and ideological factors.

This is a real threat to our democracy, and when leaders like Obama's former FBI director promote the violence, it's all the more worse.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I've been 86'ed from a couple of bars in my life, yet here I am, alive.

Thats what you think. You're really a ghost!

well yeah it was a threat, it didn't actually do it! geez man

keep up

So if I type "Die Commie" I am making a threat? English must not be your first language.

threat
/THret/

noun
noun: threat; plural noun: threats

1. 1.
   a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.
   "members of her family have received death threats"
   
   
   
   
   • Law
     a menace of bodily harm, such as may restrain a person's freedom of action.
   • the possibility of trouble, danger, or ruin.
     "the company faces the threat of bankruptcy"

 

[struth]

Thats what you think. You're really a ghost!


So if I type "Die Commie" I am making a threat? English must not be your first language.

threat
/THret/

noun
noun: threat; plural noun: threats

1. 1.
   a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.
   "members of her family have received death threats"
   
   
   
   • Law
     a menace of bodily harm, such as may restrain a person's freedom of action.
   • the possibility of trouble, danger, or ruin.
     "the company faces the threat of bankruptcy"

No, but if you say murder a specific person you are.

 

[Foxfyre]

You presume any reasonable person would see it. You presume you are reasonable.

See my Post #689

 

[Rawley]

OK, I'll bite. What did Comey mean when he posted that the President should be 86'd

Marener crickets

 

[Foxfyre]

People are welcome to make their own inferences and I doubt you have adequate insight to the minds of people who are not Trump devotees.

However, you cannot claim the meaning was explicit. Words have meaning and you’re clearly contradicting yourself.

See my Post #689

 

[Shamrock17]

86 means kicked out and banned, not assassinated.

We really do not know the true intention of the person who made the shell formation, but the message received by others is totally subjective. Some see it as impeach Trump, others see it as an assassination threat.

Comey used poor judgment to post this "cool" shell formation. I wonder what he was thinking? What audience was he trying to reach? Wth?

 

[M14 Shooter]

This is a real threat to our democracy, and when leaders like Obama's former FBI director promote the violence, it's all the more worse.

Comey is an educated man with worldly experience.
No rational, reasoned person believes the does not understand the several similar meanings of "86".

 

[Zincwarrior]

No, but if you say murder a specific person you are.

No thats still not a threat, much less actionable legally.

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[Marener]

See my Post #689

Again, you’ve yet to reconcile your use of the word “explicit” with the facts. There’s nothing explicit here. The term “86” is largely viewed as to remove from an establishment. People have been making 86 47 merch and selling it on online and no one really noticed.

This is just a wave of madness overtaking MAGA. They really enjoy having their two minutes (or two days) of hate.

You want to see explicit, this would be far more explicit.

Trump posts video that shows image of Biden tied up in the back of a truck | CNN Politics

Former President Donald Trump on Friday posted a video that featured an image of President Joe Biden tied up in the back of a pickup truck.

amp.cnn.com

Your entire argument depends on your belief that you know what Comey knows and thinks. It’s silly that you think you could be anywhere near objective about this.

 

[struth]

Comey is an educated man with worldly experience.
No rational, reasoned person believes the does not understand the several similar meaning of "86".

Of course he does, he ran the FBI, he routinely heard Mob bosses use the term

 

[struth]

Again, you’ve yet to reconcile your use of the word “explicit” with the facts. There’s nothing explicit here. The term “86” is largely viewed as to remove from an establishment. People have been making 86 47 merch and selling it on online and no one really noticed.

This is just a wave of madness overtaking MAGA. They really enjoy having their two minutes (or two days) of hate.

You want to see explicit, this would be far more explicit.

Trump posts video that shows image of Biden tied up in the back of a truck | CNN Politics

Former President Donald Trump on Friday posted a video that featured an image of President Joe Biden tied up in the back of a pickup truck.

amp.cnn.com

Your entire argument depends on your belief that you know what Comey knows and thinks. It’s silly that you think you could be anywhere near objective about this.

tied up and alive....not murdered.

See the difference

 

[M14 Shooter]

"8646"
- D.J. Trump

The left goes batshit crazy