Former BLM Leaders Speaks Out About "Ugly Truth" About Group

[Ghost of a Rider]

So you are admitting thug wilson shot this kid over jaywalking? You really think this sounds better?

You know exactly what I’ve been saying all along as to why he was shot; he was shot for attacking and threatening the officer. I’ve told you this several times in this discussion alone.

OOOOh, Apu got pushed into a chip rack. How awful for him.

I can’t say how awful it was for him but I know he was certainly intimidated enough to back off, which, again, was what Brown wanted.

The point your stupid ass keeps missing is that Brown meant to intimidate the guy and what’s more, he probably knew the guy would be intimidated and back off. You also overlook the obvious fact that if Brown had a legitimate reason for taking the cigars, he wouldn’t have needed to intimidate the guy in the first place.

But instead of looking at Brown’s actions and motive here, you keep trying to make me look like the racist wuss even though I wasn’t there and was not the one Brown intimidated. In short, you say I was intimidated for pointing out that Brown intimidated the store owner and the owner was in fact intimidated.

It is a cheap and obvious debate tactic to divert attention from the facts. The facts being that Brown pushed the guy and then threatened him. Everyone knows this, including you.

I don't assume what you know, because it's clear you lack reading comprehension skills. You and others claim that people pay unemployment so it's not like 'Welfare".

But the employers pay for that , not the employees.

I never said or suggested that employees pay unemployment insurance and I know they don’t so I don’t know why you brought it up.

So again, you’re the one with the reading comprehension problem.

White People Welfare is okay. Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment. We spend a lot more money preventing white people from becoming poor than we do getting people of color out of poverty.

Irrelevant. This is not why we were discussing unemployment insurance and payouts.

I don't know any other union that goes to the mattresses when their members KILL PEOPLE. Can you point one out to me?

Can you?

I’ve seen several news stories over the past few weeks of officers being arrested, charged or convicted for murder and police brutality with no mention of unions. And it appears in each of those cases that the allegations are well founded.

 

[JoeB131]

My Lord, you leftists are so separated from reality you even make you own stories in your head. Zimmerman ran after Martin for a few seconds, lost him, told the dispatcher that, and continued the call for about another minute. The lowlife scum was long gone. After he seen Zimmerman hang up the phone (likely suspected he was talking to the police) he attacked him. Yes, Zimmerman shot him dead rightfully so and within the constraints of the law, the law that does not restrict shooting unarmed people.

These would be the bushes that Zimmerman claimed Trayvon jumped out from behind, but there were no bushes.

That depends on the state which most extended their unemployment. The point about yearly income is to show just much money people make by staying home instead of working. It's called a comparison. A person in my state on unemployment with the fed addition makes about the same as somebody who works for 43K a year.

Which they only qualify for if they were making a lot more than 43K a year.

Uber dosn't pay shit. Go to Craigslist sometime. They and like companies run multiple ads every single day seven days a week. I looked into it, and read articles where some people were actually losing money. No decent paying real job is going to hire a 61 year old guy with no experience at anything outside of his profession. I worked all my life, forced into retirement, and now I'm going to enjoy everything I worked for. Not a damn thing wrong with that. Maybe in fall I might see if there is anything part-time I can do, but that's about it.

Again, they have a word for that. WELFARE.

People don't get shot for any crime. They get shot because they presented a threat to a police officer or the public. Remove immunity, lowlifes will not just be suing for getting shot, they will be suing for anything and everything, including having the handcuffs too tight. Ambulance chasers have no limits. They will take just about any case offered to them. Win, lose or draw, it would cost officers thousands in legal fees for not doing a damn thing wrong. Like I said, good luck with no cops in your city because nobody would be stupid enough to be a cop.

So the guy who was shot eating ice cream by a cop, who was he a threat to?

Most cops aren't insecure bullies with guns, so they have nothing to worry about. Just the bad apples.

Nobody puts people anywhere. They put themselves there. If they are in the projects instead of in a house they could never afford in the first place, at least they are not destroying the country and lead a worldwide recession.

Yes, yes, 400 years of racism had nothing to do with it.

I'm not going to waste time posting if you're not going to read it. Yeah, I have several articles on the Democrat pork in the last several bills they passed, plus the 3 trillion in pork they want to pass now. Would you like to see what they spent or will be spending money on? But don't tell me to post if if you insist on remaining ignorant as usual.

Guy, I asked you to show me on the pie chart where the "pork" was. Not 3 trillion in needed infrastructure repairs over the next decade.

First off, employees pay for everything. You pay for your vacation, your medicare and SS match by your employer, all your healthcare coverage if provided, unemployment insurance, workman's compensation insurance, holidays, everything. Employees pay it all, because an employer bases your wage after all the expenses are paid. If an employer didn't have to pay for these things, every worker would be making six or seven dollars more per hour. In other words an employer figures they can afford $27.00 an hour per employee, then they deduct all the costs they have to pay on the employees behalf. You end up with $19.00 an hour. You indirectly paid for everything.

Actually, you don't pay for any of it. The employer does. Yes, the employer has to calculate all those additional expenses when they add a body to payroll, but the employee isn't paying that.

Social programs are not welfare, but all welfare are social programs. You pay into auto insurance all your life. You get into an accident. They pay the $18,000 of damages between your car and the guy you hit. That's not welfare. You paid for that coverage, you use that coverage when you need it. Same with renters insurance, health insurance, house insurance, all insurance.

Again, not really a good comparison, because most insurance policies have maximum payouts, and it works because more people are paying in than taking out. Very few people get into serious accidents, and they can raise your rates if you get into an accident, even a little fender bender.

Meanwhile, you are paying only about 1% of your income into Medicare, but you are going to get many times that out if you have any kind of serious illness like cancer. Some old people just like to go to the doctor because they are lonely.

Calling social programs white people welfare is as racist of a remark that anybody could make. Are you suggesting blacks don't work and pay into these programs? Are you suggesting that blacks don't collect Social Security when they retire, use Medicare when they are hospitalized when they get older, and yes, even disability like me? Of course they do you racist. It may pop that confused bubble you live in, but many blacks actually have jobs and pay into these programs just like white or any other group of people.

I'm sure they do. And the majority of people on what you consider "Welfare" are actually white. but you miss the point. I call entitlements "White People Welfare" because it's the kind of welfare white people approve of. They are all for the 2.5 Trillion we spend on "Entitlements", but scream about the less than 300 billion we spend on "welfare" .

The point is, as you say, without your welfare check, you'd be truly poor right now. We spend a lot of money making sure middle class people don't turn into poor people when they lose their jobs or get too old to work. They have a word for that.

SOCIALISM!!!!

 

[Colin norris]

They are breaking stuff in liberal cities. They came to Greenville south Carolina to take down a statue. Well they left without doing it.

So they specailise in liberal cities?
How decent of them.
I love it how you stereotype them by politics. Does that include black republicans ?

 

[JoeB131]

You know exactly what I’ve been saying all along as to why he was shot; he was shot for attacking and threatening the officer. I’ve told you this several times in this discussion alone.

Yes, a barefoot, unarmed wounded kid was a total threat.

You really are invested in the murder of this black child, aren't you? Did a black kid take your lunch money when you were little?

I can’t say how awful it was for him but I know he was certainly intimidated enough to back off, which, again, was what Brown wanted.

The point your stupid ass keeps missing is that Brown meant to intimidate the guy and what’s more, he probably knew the guy would be intimidated and back off. You also overlook the obvious fact that if Brown had a legitimate reason for taking the cigars, he wouldn’t have needed to intimidate the guy in the first place.

He had a legitimate reason, he gave the clerks dope the day before. Then Apu was in, and they didn't want to admit they were trading merch for dope. Apu probably said something racist to Brown, which got the poor baby a little shove. Boo Hoo. I got shoved.

You really are invested in the murder of this black child, aren't you?

But instead of looking at Brown’s actions and motive here, you keep trying to make me look like the racist wuss even though I wasn’t there and was not the one Brown intimidated. In short, you say I was intimidated for pointing out that Brown intimidated the store owner and the owner was in fact intimidated.

It is a cheap and obvious debate tactic to divert attention from the facts. The facts being that Brown pushed the guy and then threatened him. Everyone knows this, including you.

You really are invested in the murder of this black child, aren't you? Did a black kid shove your ***** ass in the playground when you were little?

I never said or suggested that employees pay unemployment insurance and I know they don’t so I don’t know why you brought it up.

So again, you’re the one with the reading comprehension problem.

Then why go off on ten tangents rather than discuss the obvious, that unemployment insurance is just another form or welfare. But it's welfare for white people that makes it okay.

Irrelevant. This is not why we were discussing unemployment insurance and payouts.

Sure it is.

Let's review.

"Good" welfare - Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment Insurance, Veteran's Benefits

"Bad" Welfare - Section 8, Food Stamps, TANF, etc.

Can you?

I’ve seen several news stories over the past few weeks of officers being arrested, charged or convicted for murder and police brutality with no mention of unions. And it appears in each of those cases that the allegations are well founded.

Really? What I see is the FOP and PBA going to the mat for these officers no matter how dirty they are. The FOP in Chicago still likes to pretend Jason van Dyke did nothing wrong.

 

[jknowgood]

So they specailise in liberal cities?
How decent of them.
I love it how you stereotype them by politics. Does that include black republicans ?

Blm is a liberal baby. Seattle let them destroy their city. Seattle isn't a republican city. Black Republicans, what's wrong with that?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

These would be the bushes that Zimmerman claimed Trayvon jumped out from behind, but there were no bushes.

Every unit had a bush. Don't believe me, just go to Google images.

Which they only qualify for if they were making a lot more than 43K a year.

Wrong. There is a maximum benefit one can collect. You hit that maximum if you made $15.00 an hour or $25.00 an hour. You get the same maximum payout no matter what you make past the maximum.

Again, they have a word for that. WELFARE.

They have another word out there: Ignorance.

So the guy who was shot eating ice cream by a cop, who was he a threat to?

Most cops aren't insecure bullies with guns, so they have nothing to worry about. Just the bad apples.

I'm not going to comment on stories I'm not aware of or don't remember. If you want me to do that, post the link. We have record number of police officers leaving commie cities because they can no longer do their job. Yeah, make it even harder for them to do their job and everything will be just fine.

Yes, yes, 400 years of racism had nothing to do with it.

What did 400 years of racism have to do with the housing bubble and collapse?

Guy, I asked you to show me on the pie chart where the "pork" was. Not 3 trillion in needed infrastructure repairs over the next decade.

Those are categories where the money was spent. Look at the recent commie bill. Trillions for green energy they list as infrastructure. What does destroying our country with green energy have to do with Fn infrastructure? So Democrats lie about what they are actually spending the money on. Again, I can give you a list of wasted billions of dollars that you'll never find identified on your chart. Once you start breaking down those categories, then you see the wasted hundreds of billions, and even trillions are actually going.

Actually, you don't pay for any of it. The employer does. Yes, the employer has to calculate all those additional expenses when they add a body to payroll, but the employee isn't paying that.

If the employer didn't have to pay for these things you would see that money in your check instead. You do pay for them. It's just like when all those businesses dropped their healthcare coverage when Commie Care started. They gave their employees an increase in pay to makeup for it.

Again, not really a good comparison, because most insurance policies have maximum payouts, and it works because more people are paying in than taking out. Very few people get into serious accidents, and they can raise your rates if you get into an accident, even a little fender bender.

Meanwhile, you are paying only about 1% of your income into Medicare, but you are going to get many times that out if you have any kind of serious illness like cancer. Some old people just like to go to the doctor because they are lonely.

It doesn't change the fact they work the same way. You pay into a benefit all of your life and when needed, collect on that benefit. that's not welfare. Medicare and SS loses are offset by people who don't live long enough to collect a dime. Oh, they paid into it their entire lives, but didn't get a damn thing back like my next door neighbor who died from lung cancer at the age of 64. Insurance works the same way only better because they invest your premiums to help offset the losses. I paid into car insurance all of my life, I'll likely never see a dime of it back. Somebody getting into accidents every five years will be benefiting from my great driving instead.

I'm sure they do. And the majority of people on what you consider "Welfare" are actually white. but you miss the point. I call entitlements "White People Welfare" because it's the kind of welfare white people approve of. They are all for the 2.5 Trillion we spend on "Entitlements", but scream about the less than 300 billion we spend on "welfare" .

The point is, as you say, without your welfare check, you'd be truly poor right now. We spend a lot of money making sure middle class people don't turn into poor people when they lose their jobs or get too old to work. They have a word for that.

SOCIALISM!!!!

SS sends out pamphlets every couple of years showing all your (and your employers) contributions to SS, and tell you what you'd be getting today if you were to start collecting. Take that pamphlet to a reputable investment company and ask them to calculate what you'd be worth today if only that money had been invested in a conservative growth account your entire life. You'd shit yourself.

The fact is if we were always allowed the option of using that money for private investment instead of forced into government programs, my health would be irrelevant today because I would have had more than enough to retire years ago. I've had an IRA for the past 24 years. I seen the results of what that money did, and I never contributed even half of what I and my employer contributed to SS.

When I die, whatever I have in that IRA will go to my family, every last cent unlike government programs. So why don't we start ending SS and switch over to mandated personal investments? Because it would take away some control the government has over the people.

 

[BS Filter]

You're wasting your time with JoeB131. He's a habitual liar.

 

[JoeB131]

Every unit had a bush. Don't believe me, just go to Google images.

He didn't say, "a bush" , he said "bushes". You think someone can hide behind a single bush?

Wrong. There is a maximum benefit one can collect. You hit that maximum if you made $15.00 an hour or $25.00 an hour. You get the same maximum payout no matter what you make past the maximum.

I think you are calculating it wrong, welfare ray. Min. Wage workers aren't getting the Maximum...

I'm not going to comment on stories I'm not aware of or don't remember. If you want me to do that, post the link. We have record number of police officers leaving commie cities because they can no longer do their job. Yeah, make it even harder for them to do their job and everything will be just fine.

Oh, pleading ignorance of hte officer in Dallas who got mixed up on what floor she was on and walked into a black man's living room and pumped him full of lead... Yup, that was some awesome police work there...

What did 400 years of racism have to do with the housing bubble and collapse?

Nothing, because that's not what we were discussing. We were discussing why black people can't always afford nice homes.

Those are categories where the money was spent. Look at the recent commie bill. Trillions for green energy they list as infrastructure. What does destroying our country with green energy have to do with Fn infrastructure? So Democrats lie about what they are actually spending the money on. Again, I can give you a list of wasted billions of dollars that you'll never find identified on your chart. Once you start breaking down those categories, then you see the wasted hundreds of billions, and even trillions are actually going.

Trillions? Really?

Again, go back to the chart and show me where the "Pork" is.

Here's the Chart again.

If the employer didn't have to pay for these things you would see that money in your check instead. You do pay for them. It's just like when all those businesses dropped their healthcare coverage when Commie Care started. They gave their employees an increase in pay to makeup for it.

Yeah, because employers are soo keen to give the wage slaves money when they don't have to. Says the guy who worked for Bottom Feeder Trucking before he went on welfare.

It doesn't change the fact they work the same way. You pay into a benefit all of your life and when needed, collect on that benefit. that's not welfare. Medicare and SS loses are offset by people who don't live long enough to collect a dime. Oh, they paid into it their entire lives, but didn't get a damn thing back like my next door neighbor who died from lung cancer at the age of 64. Insurance works the same way only better because they invest your premiums to help offset the losses. I paid into car insurance all of my life, I'll likely never see a dime of it back. Somebody getting into accidents every five years will be benefiting from my great driving instead.

Again, not nearly the same thing, because most people don't get into accidents. But you bring up an interesting point. Auto INsurance is MANDETORY in most states now. The only way they could get the system to work was to mandate at least liability insurance. The vast majority of us will never be in a serious accident and fewer of us in ones that really run up that much money... but we all pay in.

On the other hand, most people on social security WILL live long enough to collect it. Most people will live long enough to need medicare. So your argument fails on its face.

SS sends out pamphlets every couple of years showing all your (and your employers) contributions to SS, and tell you what you'd be getting today if you were to start collecting. Take that pamphlet to a reputable investment company and ask them to calculate what you'd be worth today if only that money had been invested in a conservative growth account your entire life. You'd shit yourself.

Most "reputable" investment companies exaggerate your potential earnings.

The fact is if we were always allowed the option of using that money for private investment instead of forced into government programs, my health would be irrelevant today because I would have had more than enough to retire years ago. I've had an IRA for the past 24 years. I seen the results of what that money did, and I never contributed even half of what I and my employer contributed to SS.

Uh, the results are you are on welfare and live in a slum. Funny how you keep forgetting that. Oh, but you are putting cameras on your house now because you are so paranoid.

When I die, whatever I have in that IRA will go to my family, every last cent unlike government programs. So why don't we start ending SS and switch over to mandated personal investments? Because it would take away some control the government has over the people.

Yeah, or we will see what happens when you give Wall Street that kind of money to abuse. The only thing that keeps investments afloat is that the government keeps propping wall street up, and when we aren't having a brain tumor for breakfast and putting Repukes in office, actually regulating them so they don't do what they did in 2008 and 1987 and 1929....

Not that it matters, when they **** up, we end up spending a lot more to bail them out than we do on social security.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Yes, a barefoot, unarmed wounded kid was a total threat.

Considering he had just attacked an officer, yes, he was.

You really are invested in the murder of this black child, aren't you?

No more than you are. You don’t give a flying **** about Brown, he’s just a prop in your morality charade.

Did a black kid take your lunch money when you were little?

Not that I recall. Why?

He had a legitimate reason, he gave the clerks dope the day before.

No he didn’t. He took his dope when he left. Even if he didn’t, there’s still the question as to why he put the cigars back on the counter and left without both the dope and the cigars.

Then Apu was in, and they didn't want to admit they were trading merch for dope. Apu probably said something racist to Brown, which got the poor baby a little shove. Boo Hoo. I got shoved.

1.) They deny trading dope for the cigars.

2.) You don’t know that the store owner said something racist to Brown. This is pure speculation and adds nothing to the discussion.

3.) The point of the owner being shoved is not how traumatic it was for him but the fact that Brown shoved him at all. It reveals that Brown’s intentions were not entirely honorable.

You really are invested in the murder of this black child, aren't you?

What black child?

You really are invested in the murder of this black child, aren't you? Did a black kid shove your ***** ass in the playground when you were little?

Not that I recall. Why?

Then why go off on ten tangents rather than discuss the obvious, that unemployment insurance is just another form or welfare. But it's welfare for white people that makes it okay.

I didn’t go off on a tangent, you did when you said employees don’t pay unemployment insurance when I never said they did. You then went off on another tangent about unemployment being white welfare when we were discussing all the people collecting unemployment and not going back to work.

So in the blink of an eye you went from defending people collecting unemployment because they don’t want to return to “dead end jobs” to vilifying them as privileged whites collecting “white welfare”.

You’re so full of hate that your hates actually contradict each other.

Sure it is.

Let's review.

"Good" welfare - Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment Insurance, Veteran's Benefits

"Bad" Welfare - Section 8, Food Stamps, TANF, etc.

Irrelevant. We were discussing unemployment in the context of people refusing to go back to work after the pandemic lockdowns. Social security, medicare, veterans’ benefits and the rest of that shit was never part of the conversation.

Really? What I see is the FOP and PBA going to the mat for these officers no matter how dirty they are. The FOP in Chicago still likes to pretend Jason van Dyke did nothing wrong.

*shrug*

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

He didn't say, "a bush" , he said "bushes". You think someone can hide behind a single bush?

In the dark while it's raining, you bet you can.

I think you are calculating it wrong, welfare ray. Min. Wage workers aren't getting the Maximum...

I didn't say minimum wage workers OCD. Workers that make an average wage are making more on unemployment than they are working. The 300.00 fed addition is added no matter what you made full-time or part-time. So yes, those workers are making more too by staying home.

Oh, pleading ignorance of hte officer in Dallas who got mixed up on what floor she was on and walked into a black man's living room and pumped him full of lead... Yup, that was some awesome police work there...

She wasn't on duty you clown. She was working a lot of hours and simply got off on the wrong floor. But I know you think that once a human being becomes a police officer, somehow they became super human and never make a mistake.

Nothing, because that's not what we were discussing. We were discussing why black people can't always afford nice homes.

We know why they can't get homes: bad credit, can't come up with a large enough down payment, switching jobs all the time, not enough income, no different than any white person that is refused a loan.

Trillions? Really?

Again, go back to the chart and show me where the "Pork" is.

Here's the Chart again.

Shove your chart. Would you like me to post the links to what they've spent on since taking the House? Glad to do it if you're intelligent to read what I post.

Yeah, because employers are soo keen to give the wage slaves money when they don't have to. Says the guy who worked for Bottom Feeder Trucking before he went on welfare.

Employers only pay employees what they can, but you OCD people are so invested in TV shows and movies you think it's reality, and don't have the balls to see a professional to help you decipher between make-believe and reality.

Again, not nearly the same thing, because most people don't get into accidents. But you bring up an interesting point. Auto INsurance is MANDETORY in most states now. The only way they could get the system to work was to mandate at least liability insurance. The vast majority of us will never be in a serious accident and fewer of us in ones that really run up that much money... but we all pay in.

On the other hand, most people on social security WILL live long enough to collect it. Most people will live long enough to need medicare. So your argument fails on its face.

Yes, auto and home insurance is mandatory if you have a mortgage out. Auto insurance is mandatory but if you don't have it, you probably won't have any problems unless you do get in an accident. You can't do that with social programs unless you work your life under the table running numbers, being a pimp or prostitute, or successfully sell dope. If you legally work, you have no choice but to contribute to social programs.

The insurance system is setup the same way our social programs are. You pay into it your entire life, and you collect what's promised to you when needed.

Most "reputable" investment companies exaggerate your potential earnings.

Then figure it out yourself if you like. I doubt you can given you can't even have a discussion without breaking up a post into a dozen quotes.

Uh, the results are you are on welfare and live in a slum. Funny how you keep forgetting that. Oh, but you are putting cameras on your house now because you are so paranoid.

My cameras are being installed this Saturday to protect me and my tenants, plus help police with crimes whenever I can. A few weeks a go an officer was in a high speed pursuit. The guy was going so fast past my house the officer couldn't get close enough to get a license plate before he lost him. If I had these cameras a few weeks ago, I could have freezed framed the car, blow up the picture to get a license plate, and alerted police who they were chasing. Even tonight, my tenant came home this evening and told me while they were making the turn, some lowlife on a motorcycle passed them on the left. No accident, but if there was, I would have been able to have it all on video.

Yeah, or we will see what happens when you give Wall Street that kind of money to abuse. The only thing that keeps investments afloat is that the government keeps propping wall street up, and when we aren't having a brain tumor for breakfast and putting Repukes in office, actually regulating them so they don't do what they did in 2008 and 1987 and 1929....

Not that it matters, when they **** up, we end up spending a lot more to bail them out than we do on social security.

Too bad we didn't have a brain tumor last election. Our gasoline would still be $2.10 a gallon, our border would still be secure, we wouldn't have out of control inflation, we wouldn't have millions of covid infected immigrants coming here and a President busing them all across the country coast to coast. Our girls in school would still be albe to compete against other real girls instead of sissies in dresses, we wouldn't have out of control inflation because Trump would have never signed a bill with the federal extension, and we woudn't have a naer 6% unemployment rate with a labor shortage at the same time.

Let's hope next election more informed voters do have a brain tumor.

 

[JoeB131]

No more than you are. You don’t give a flying **** about Brown, he’s just a prop in your morality charade.

I'm not the one arguing that he totally deserved to die like you are. You are really invested in the murder of this black child.

No he didn’t. He took his dope when he left. Even if he didn’t, there’s still the question as to why he put the cigars back on the counter and left without both the dope and the cigars.

He planned to pick them up later. That's why he came back and got into the argument with Apu.

1.) They deny trading dope for the cigars.

Yes, they were totally going to admit to a felony.

2.) You don’t know that the store owner said something racist to Brown. This is pure speculation and adds nothing to the discussion.

Again, would have been nice to have gotten everything that happened in that store under oath, and all the tape admitted, instead of just the slo-mo stuff the cops put out to cover their guy.

3.) The point of the owner being shoved is not how traumatic it was for him but the fact that Brown shoved him at all. It reveals that Brown’s intentions were not entirely honorable.

Or he just shoved someone. I mean, I'm sure this would get you to wet your pants, but most people get over it.

I didn’t go off on a tangent, you did when you said employees don’t pay unemployment insurance when I never said they did. You then went off on another tangent about unemployment being white welfare when we were discussing all the people collecting unemployment and not going back to work.

I didn't go off on a tangent. You and Welfare Ray did when you claimed that Entitlements are paid for by working people. Unemployment isn't paid by employees at all, employers pay for it.

So in the blink of an eye you went from defending people collecting unemployment because they don’t want to return to “dead end jobs” to vilifying them as privileged whites collecting “white welfare”.

Not at all. I'm sorry you can't follow two concepts.

The GOP is the party of rich people, and rich people are being slightly inconvienced by not being able to get to exploit the working poor for another couple of weeks. We can't have that.

This has nothing to do with the fact that the same white people who whine about "Welfare" are grabbing "entitlements" with both hands.

Irrelevant. We were discussing unemployment in the context of people refusing to go back to work after the pandemic lockdowns. Social security, medicare, veterans’ benefits and the rest of that shit was never part of the conversation.

Um, yeah, they completely were, because old Welfare Ray keeps insisting his fake disability claim is an "entitlement". Speaking of Welfare Ray....

 

[JoeB131]

I didn't say minimum wage workers OCD. Workers that make an average wage are making more on unemployment than they are working. The 300.00 fed addition is added no matter what you made full-time or part-time. So yes, those workers are making more too by staying home.

Then shame on those employers for not paying a living wage. Let's not forget, it was Trump who paid people an extra $600.00 during the worst of TRUMP PLAGUE so that white people wouldn't realize how bad he screwed up their lives.

She wasn't on duty you clown. She was working a lot of hours and simply got off on the wrong floor. But I know you think that once a human being becomes a police officer, somehow they became super human and never make a mistake.

You see, you did it again. You made an excuse for another cop who fucked up.

Most people in prison "made a mistake". We don't give them a pass, either. I really do expect that when we give someone a badge and a gun, they aren't going to blow someone away because they were too busy talking to the partner they were having an affair with to pay attention to what floor they were on.

We know why they can't get homes: bad credit, can't come up with a large enough down payment, switching jobs all the time, not enough income, no different than any white person that is refused a loan.

Awesome. They still need places to live. Thank goodness we got rid of those high-rise projects and are doing scattered site housing now.

Shove your chart. Would you like me to post the links to what they've spent on since taking the House? Glad to do it if you're intelligent to read what I post.

No, man, show me on the chart, It breaks down what departments are getting. Once you take out Medicare, Social Security and Defense spending, there just isn't all that much left... And most of that really is necessary.

Employers only pay employees what they can, but you OCD people are so invested in TV shows and movies you think it's reality, and don't have the balls to see a professional to help you decipher between make-believe and reality.

If that were the case, then employers should make public what they pay their employees. They won't because then you'll find out who they managed to low-ball and who they are overpaying.

Yes, auto and home insurance is mandatory if you have a mortgage out. Auto insurance is mandatory but if you don't have it, you probably won't have any problems unless you do get in an accident. You can't do that with social programs unless you work your life under the table running numbers, being a pimp or prostitute, or successfully sell dope. If you legally work, you have no choice but to contribute to social programs.

Actually, they check you for insurance every time a cop pulls you over for a moving violation and it's a pretty big fine if you don't have it.

My cameras are being installed this Saturday to protect me and my tenants, plus help police with crimes whenever I can. A few weeks a go an officer was in a high speed pursuit. The guy was going so fast past my house the officer couldn't get close enough to get a license plate before he lost him. If I had these cameras a few weeks ago, I could have freezed framed the car, blow up the picture to get a license plate, and alerted police who they were chasing. Even tonight, my tenant came home this evening and told me while they were making the turn, some lowlife on a motorcycle passed them on the left. No accident, but if there was, I would have been able to have it all on video.

Um, maybe cops should be getting into high-speed pursuits. That's how people end up getting killed. But that's okay, Mrs. Kravitz, you might catch those witches some day.

Too bad we didn't have a brain tumor last election. Our gasoline would still be $2.10 a gallon, our border would still be secure, we wouldn't have out of control inflation, we wouldn't have millions of covid infected immigrants coming here and a President busing them all across the country coast to coast. Our girls in school would still be albe to compete against other real girls instead of sissies in dresses, we wouldn't have out of control inflation because Trump would have never signed a bill with the federal extension, and we woudn't have a naer 6% unemployment rate with a labor shortage at the same time.

Guy, inflation is a world-wide problem right now... nothing to do with Biden. There's no "crisis" at the border. The reason why we are still having a problem with Trump Plague is because you idiot rednecks are refusing to get your shots. Normally, I'd chalk this up as "Natural Selection", but that would be harsh.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then shame on those employers for not paying a living wage. Let's not forget, it was Trump who paid people an extra $600.00 during the worst of TRUMP PLAGUE so that white people wouldn't realize how bad he screwed up their lives.

Yes they did for a short amount of time because companies were closing up left and right. Apples and oranges as always with you. Today is an entirely different situation. Today they are paying people to stay home when there are over 9 million jobs in the US available right this minute. Why do you think they extended it until September? They passed this is January and even then, businesses were starting to open up and needed help.

There were always jobs that didn't pay a "living wage" whatever the **** that is. There were low paying jobs when I got out of school and started working and there are low paying jobs today. Nobody back when I was a kid could afford an apartment or house on minimum wage and they can't do it today. I worked several minimum wage jobs when I first started working and living at home with mom and dad. I couldn't afford an apartment until I was making almost double of minimum wage.

You see, you did it again. You made an excuse for another cop who fucked up.

Most people in prison "made a mistake". We don't give them a pass, either. I really do expect that when we give someone a badge and a gun, they aren't going to blow someone away because they were too busy talking to the partner they were having an affair with to pay attention to what floor they were on.

Who's making excuses? I don't even like the idea of female cops to begin with. She made a mistake, was charged for it and in prison now. What's your problem with that?

Awesome. They still need places to live. Thank goodness we got rid of those high-rise projects and are doing scattered site housing now.

That's because they ruined those projects just like here in Cleveland. The commie solution is to have them ruin areas all across town. That's why we need two countries today.

No, man, show me on the chart, It breaks down what departments are getting. Once you take out Medicare, Social Security and Defense spending, there just isn't all that much left... And most of that really is necessary.

Charts are generalizations. Okay, here's what the commies spent "some" of the money on:

Paying 120% of debt to non-white farms. Guess who those non-white farmers vote for?
135 million to the national endowment of the arts.
135 million to the national endowments of humanity.
200 million to the museum and library services.
10 million for the preservation of Native American language????
50 million to family planning. Now gee, what entity handles that in our country?
15 billion to the airlines.
10 million for gender studies in Pakistan?
Money to study the race riots of 1908 in Springfield?
Money to study the studying the succession or reincarnation of the Dalai Lama
Money to create a commission to warn people about storing flammable liquids near flames?
130 million for Napal.
453 million for Ukraine.
700 million to the Sudan.
Then of course the billions we are spending to pay people to stay home instead of work.

So where are all these items in your stupid pie chart?

If that were the case, then employers should make public what they pay their employees. They won't because then you'll find out who they managed to low-ball and who they are overpaying.

Nobody would care. You think American consumers who buy all these Chinese products care about what low pay workers in the US make? Like CEO pay is hard to find with the internet?

Actually, they check you for insurance every time a cop pulls you over for a moving violation and it's a pretty big fine if you don't have it.

They don't have the ability to check if you have insurance because their computers are not tied into the insurance system data base. All you do is check a box stating you have insurance when you apply for your license plate sticker.

Um, maybe cops should be getting into high-speed pursuits. That's how people end up getting killed. But that's okay, Mrs. Kravitz, you might catch those witches some day.

Yes I may. Every citizen should take efforts into fighting crime, and I'm doing exactly that.

Guy, inflation is a world-wide problem right now... nothing to do with Biden. There's no "crisis" at the border. The reason why we are still having a problem with Trump Plague is because you idiot rednecks are refusing to get your shots. Normally, I'd chalk this up as "Natural Selection", but that would be harsh.

I agree, and that's why I'm glad blacks lag every other group in the country for getting the vaccine.

Inflation is not a worldwide problem, it's a problem in the United States thanks to stupid voters. Between the ridiculous Democrat borrowing, paying people to stay home so employers must greatly increase their wage offer and dramatically increase prices of their products and services, additional costs to transport those products, we are at 6.1% inflation right now, and that could go even higher.

Yes, the border is a huge problem. The BP says it's the worst it's been in 20 years. But live in denial all you like.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

I'm not the one arguing that he totally deserved to die like you are. You are really invested in the murder of this black child.

I never said he deserved to die, I said he was shot for attacking and threatening an officer. Two different things and a simple case of cause and effect.

He planned to pick them up later.

Then why was he leaving with them? It was only after the clerk said something to him that he turned around and left them on the counter.

That's why he came back and got into the argument with Apu.

Why would he argue with the store owner at all? If he had a deal with the clerks for the swap then he should have told the owner this instead of assaulting the guy.

Yes, they were totally going to admit to a felony.

I never thought to ask this before but, where does this narrative of swapping dope for cigars come from? Is this a witness testimony or just something you saw on social media?

Again, would have been nice to have gotten everything that happened in that store under oath, and all the tape admitted, instead of just the slo-mo stuff the cops put out to cover their guy.

To cover what guy? The cigar theft was not directly related to the shooting. The theft is only pertinent to the story in that it was the police call about the theft that prompted Wilson to confront Brown when he saw the cigars in Brown’s hand.

Are you so dense as to not see that if someone had not called the cops and the call had not gone out on the police net that Wilson would have only asked them to get on the sidewalk and the cigars would be totally irrelevant?

And I must point out here that apparently the customer who called 911 also thought it was a theft and not a swap.

Or he just shoved someone. I mean, I'm sure this would get you to wet your pants, but most people get over it.

So you’re saying that just shoving someone for no reason is honorable?

I didn't go off on a tangent. You and Welfare Ray did when you claimed that Entitlements are paid for by working people. Unemployment isn't paid by employees at all, employers pay for it.

Maybe Ray said this but I never said any such thing and it’s not what you and I were discussing anyway. Therefore, in our discussion, you went on a tangent.

Not at all. I'm sorry you can't follow two concepts.

I can follow two concepts. The problem is that you apparently can’t decide whether to applaud people for taking unemployment to avoid dead end jobs or deride those same people for taking unemployment to exercise their white privilege.

Like I said, your hates contradict each other.

The GOP is the party of rich people, and rich people are being slightly inconvienced by not being able to get to exploit the working poor for another couple of weeks. We can't have that.

Blah blah blah. Irrelevant. This is not what we were discussing.

This has nothing to do with the fact that the same white people who whine about "Welfare" are grabbing "entitlements" with both hands.

Because, as you said, they don’t want to return to dead end jobs, which you defended.

Um, yeah, they completely were, because old Welfare Ray keeps insisting his fake disability claim is an "entitlement". Speaking of Welfare Ray....

Your discussion with Ray has nothing to do with our discussion.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes they did for a short amount of time because companies were closing up left and right. Apples and oranges as always with you. Today is an entirely different situation. Today they are paying people to stay home when there are over 9 million jobs in the US available right this minute. Why do you think they extended it until September? They passed this is January and even then, businesses were starting to open up and needed help.

They extended it to September because that's how long they thought it would take to get everyone vaccinated. They didn't count on your Bubba Rednecks all refusing to get vaccinated because it would be a denial of the One True God, Donald Trump.

There were always jobs that didn't pay a "living wage" whatever the **** that is. There were low paying jobs when I got out of school and started working and there are low paying jobs today. Nobody back when I was a kid could afford an apartment or house on minimum wage and they can't do it today. I worked several minimum wage jobs when I first started working and living at home with mom and dad. I couldn't afford an apartment until I was making almost double of minimum wage.

I worked two minimum wage jobs when I was in college and was able to work my way through college before the Army kicked in and paid part of it. Kids couldn't do that today. We need a living wage, and everyone should make it.

Who's making excuses? I don't even like the idea of female cops to begin with. She made a mistake, was charged for it and in prison now. What's your problem with that?

That this kind of shit happens at all. That's my problem.

That's because they ruined those projects just like here in Cleveland. The commie solution is to have them ruin areas all across town. That's why we need two countries today.

Nope, What we need is a racist tax... to correct the inequities of the past.

Charts are generalizations. Okay, here's what the commies spent "some" of the money on:

Okay, except for the bailout for the airlines (necessary to keep a vital industry afloat) the things you listed all together didn't come up to 2 billion out of a FOUR TRILLION budget.

Also, they are hardly unnecessary. For instance, most of the aid to foreign countries benefits Americans because they are required to use that money with American companies, providing American jobs. Museums and LIbraries took a hit during TRUMP PLAGUE, and they are kind of necessary.

Nobody would care. You think American consumers who buy all these Chinese products care about what low pay workers in the US make? Like CEO pay is hard to find with the internet?

They should care... but no, Cleetus white Trash sits in his trailer park in Jesusland, wearing his MAGA hat, watching his TV made in Malaysia, his recliner made in China, wearing his clothes made in Pakistan, and he wonders why he can't dun-der find a good job. Blame the Darkies!!!!

Oh, wait, did I just describe your life, Welfare Ray?

They don't have the ability to check if you have insurance because their computers are not tied into the insurance system data base. All you do is check a box stating you have insurance when you apply for your license plate sticker.

Actually, they ask for proof of insurance every time they pull you over and it's not good if you don't have it. The cops do 40 million traffic stops a year. Do the math, dummy.

Yes I may. Every citizen should take efforts into fighting crime, and I'm doing exactly that.

If you were serious about fighting crime, you'd worry about the root causes- poverty, racism, addiction, mental illness, gun proliferation. You don't. You cower in your house, listening to your police scanner, fondling your guns and watching the world on your cameras. It's kind of a sad existence. Or it would be if you weren't such an awful person from the get.

I agree, and that's why I'm glad blacks lag every other group in the country for getting the vaccine.

Tell us again how not racist you are.

Inflation is not a worldwide problem, it's a problem in the United States thanks to stupid voters. Between the ridiculous Democrat borrowing, paying people to stay home so employers must greatly increase their wage offer and dramatically increase prices of their products and services, additional costs to transport those products, we are at 6.1% inflation right now, and that could go even higher.

Inflation is definitely a world-wide problem. Coming from the purchasing world, I can tell you the price of a number of commodities have gone up, particularly steel.

Yes, the border is a huge problem. The BP says it's the worst it's been in 20 years. But live in denial all you like.

I don't believe anything the Fascist Border Patrol says. Biden is cleaning that cesspool out and a good thing.

 

[JoeB131]

I never said he deserved to die, I said he was shot for attacking and threatening an officer. Two different things and a simple case of cause and effect.

I see a different cause and effect. You give a corrupt thug (previously fired from another police department) a badge and a gun and license to harass black people, eventually you are going to get an incident like this.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

Then why was he leaving with them? It was only after the clerk said something to him that he turned around and left them on the counter.

It would be nice if we knew what was said, but funny, they never called that clerk... or even asked about the earlier trip. Because it took away from the the "Brown was an evil shoplifter who shoved poor Apu" narrative.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

Why would he argue with the store owner at all? If he had a deal with the clerks for the swap then he should have told the owner this instead of assaulting the guy.

Again, it would have been nice to get Apu and his clerks under oath to find out, but McCullough didn't do that.

He called the crazy lady who wasn't there... but he didn't call these key witnesses, for some reason.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

I never thought to ask this before but, where does this narrative of swapping dope for cigars come from? Is this a witness testimony or just something you saw on social media?

It was part of a documentary, which is also where the earlier film of him making a dope deal with Apu's employees comes from.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

To cover what guy? The cigar theft was not directly related to the shooting. The theft is only pertinent to the story in that it was the police call about the theft that prompted Wilson to confront Brown when he saw the cigars in Brown’s hand.

Neither the jaywalking nor the shoplifting were a good enough excuse to shoot this kid in the middle of the street. This is why we need to teach these cops de-escalation tactics.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

Are you so dense as to not see that if someone had not called the cops and the call had not gone out on the police net that Wilson would have only asked them to get on the sidewalk and the cigars would be totally irrelevant?

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

So you’re saying that just shoving someone for no reason is honorable?

We don't know is reason. If Apu called him the N-word, he had every reason to shove him.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

I can follow two concepts. The problem is that you apparently can’t decide whether to applaud people for taking unemployment to avoid dead end jobs or deride those same people for taking unemployment to exercise their white privilege.

Like I said, your hates contradict each other.

Actually, I'm kind of amused that people are sticking it to the rich by not going back to those dead end jobs. But unemployment is another example of White Welfare- a payment from the government white people are fine with because they are "entitled".

I wouldn't have a problem if they went back to the old days of making you come in every week and showing your job hunt efforts. They don't do that anymore. They don't even make you report to an office, you just file on line. (And that was before TRUMP PLAGUE hit.)

Your discussion with Ray has nothing to do with our discussion.

Sure it does.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They extended it to September because that's how long they thought it would take to get everyone vaccinated. They didn't count on your Bubba Rednecks all refusing to get vaccinated because it would be a denial of the One True God, Donald Trump.

Yeah, that must be why they extended it. It has nothing to do with keeping Americans home so the commies can make the case we don't have Americans that will do these jobs, and desperately need these invaders to come here and do them. Green cards, amnesty, citizenship. The commie steps into taking over America.

I worked two minimum wage jobs when I was in college and was able to work my way through college before the Army kicked in and paid part of it. Kids couldn't do that today. We need a living wage, and everyone should make it.

You're full of shit. Maybe you could afford to pay for college but there is no way you could actually get an apartment (or house) working minimum wage jobs. If I couldn't do that in an American state, HTF could you do that in a commie state where the cost of living is double?

Nope, What we need is a racist tax... to correct the inequities of the past.

Sounds good. Get your party to tax all their voters if that's what they believe. Leave the rest of us alone.

Okay, except for the bailout for the airlines (necessary to keep a vital industry afloat) the things you listed all together didn't come up to 2 billion out of a FOUR TRILLION budget.

Also, they are hardly unnecessary. For instance, most of the aid to foreign countries benefits Americans because they are required to use that money with American companies, providing American jobs. Museums and LIbraries took a hit during TRUMP PLAGUE, and they are kind of necessary.

Right, and it has nothing to do with the fact these are all liberal based institutions the rest of us could care less about. Just like paying the debts of minority farm owners. And oh, I only listed "some" of the things they spent money on. There are others like 70 million to the Kennedy Center and garbage like that.

They should care... but no, Cleetus white Trash sits in his trailer park in Jesusland, wearing his MAGA hat, watching his TV made in Malaysia, his recliner made in China, wearing his clothes made in Pakistan, and he wonders why he can't dun-der find a good job. Blame the Darkies!!!!

Oh, wait, did I just describe your life, Welfare Ray?

Sure you did OCD. Maybe the problem we have are people with severe mental disorders they refuse to get help for, and would rather live a tortured life because they don't have the balls to man up and admit they have a serious problem.

Actually, they ask for proof of insurance every time they pull you over and it's not good if you don't have it. The cops do 40 million traffic stops a year. Do the math, dummy.

Correct, but if you don't have proof of insurance, there is little they can do to you. It's not an issue for most cops unless it's a serious accident.

If you were serious about fighting crime, you'd worry about the root causes- poverty, racism, addiction, mental illness, gun proliferation. You don't. You cower in your house, listening to your police scanner, fondling your guns and watching the world on your cameras. It's kind of a sad existence. Or it would be if you weren't such an awful person from the get.

I am serious about fighting crime. That's one of the many reasons I vote Republican. I know what party did this to my city.

Inflation is definitely a world-wide problem. Coming from the purchasing world, I can tell you the price of a number of commodities have gone up, particularly steel.

Yeah, and funny how coincidental it was that Trump left office, and all of a sudden we have this worldwide inflation problem, huh?

I don't believe anything the Fascist Border Patrol says. Biden is cleaning that cesspool out and a good thing.

Yes he is. Good people are leaving because they can no longer do their job. It's becoming more and more dangerous all the time because this dementia patient is welcoming them into our country with their covid and all the other diseases they carry.

Head of Border Patrol resigning from post

The head of the U.S. Border Patrol announced on Wednesday he is resigning from his post.Border Patrol Chief Rodney Scott, who took his position during the Trump administration in 2020, posted on Fa…

thehill.com

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

I see a different cause and effect. You give a corrupt thug (previously fired from another police department) a badge and a gun and license to harass black people, eventually you are going to get an incident like this.

The problem with this analysis is that you don’t know that Wilson was corrupt.

Wilson was never mentioned or included in the complaints or incidents that precipitated the department closing.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

What child?

It would be nice if we knew what was said, but funny, they never called that clerk... or even asked about the earlier trip.

Again, the cigar theft was not directly related to the shooting so there was no reason to talk to them.

Because it took away from the the "Brown was an evil shoplifter who shoved poor Apu" narrative.

If he wasn’t shoplifting, why did he shove the owner?

The cigars belonged to the store and thus the store owner. So naturally the owner wanted his money for the cigars. The dope was irrelevant because even if the clerks made a deal with Brown, the owner was not included in this deal and thus the cigars still belonged to him. Get it?

Also, you surmised that the dope he brought earlier was just a sample. Problem with that is that when he returned, he had no dope at all. He just reached behind the counter and grabbed the cigars, shoved the owner when he tried to stop him and left.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

What child?

Again, it would have been nice to get Apu and his clerks under oath to find out, but McCullough didn't do that.

No reason to.

He called the crazy lady who wasn't there... but he didn't call these key witnesses, for some reason.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

What child?

It was part of a documentary, which is also where the earlier film of him making a dope deal with Apu's employees comes from.

You know who else never talked to the store owner or the clerks? The documentary maker.

The owner and clerks had to come out publically to refute the narrative of the documentary that a deal was made. If the documentary maker had questioned them they would have told him there was no deal and, unless he was a complete chickenshit, would have had to include it in the documentary. But I suspect that this would not have helped his narrative of a squeaky clean kid murdered by a white cop so he never asked.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

What child?

Neither the jaywalking nor the shoplifting were a good enough excuse to shoot this kid in the middle of the street. This is why we need to teach these cops de-escalation tactics.

Again, for the hundredth time, he was not shot for jaywalking or shoplifting. He was shot for attacking an officer.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

What child?

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

What child?

We don't know is reason. If Apu called him the N-word, he had every reason to shove him.

That would make everything easier for you, wouldn’t it?

Since we don’t know what he said, we can only speculate based on what transpired in the video.

Fact: Brown grabbed cigars from behind the counter.
Fact: He attempted to leave without having paid for the cigars.
Fact: The owner attempted to prevent Brown from leaving the store with unpaid-for merchandise and Brown shoved him.

We know you are invested in the brutal murder of this black child.

What child?

Actually, I'm kind of amused that people are sticking it to the rich by not going back to those dead end jobs. But unemployment is another example of White Welfare- a payment from the government white people are fine with because they are "entitled".

Which only shows you hate both groups, you just hate the rich more.

I wouldn't have a problem if they went back to the old days of making you come in every week and showing your job hunt efforts. They don't do that anymore. They don't even make you report to an office, you just file on line. (And that was before TRUMP PLAGUE hit.)

You do realize that if they reinstated this rule then at some point, those you applaud for refusing to return to dead end jobs are going to have to take another dead end job to avoid losing benefits, right?

Sure it does.

No, it does not.

Even if you think it does, I will continue to not respond to irrelevancies that pertain only to your discussion with Ray. Understood?

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, that must be why they extended it. It has nothing to do with keeping Americans home so the commies can make the case we don't have Americans that will do these jobs, and desperately need these invaders to come here and do them. Green cards, amnesty, citizenship. The commie steps into taking over America.

So a process that would take years is going to happen because Biden extended Trump's enhanced unemployment benefits for another month.

I guess people missed the memo. Unemployment dropped to 5.4% yesterday and a million new jobs were created.

You're full of shit. Maybe you could afford to pay for college but there is no way you could actually get an apartment (or house) working minimum wage jobs. If I couldn't do that in an American state, HTF could you do that in a commie state where the cost of living is double?

The point I was making was before the Republicans gutted the working class, I COULD pay for college on a minimum wage job. in fact, I could do it for working the equivalent of 10 hours a week. For food and housing, I had to live with some other people during my college years because my parents passed away when I was in college.

Sounds good. Get your party to tax all their voters if that's what they believe. Leave the rest of us alone.

Doesn't work that way, buddy.

Right, and it has nothing to do with the fact these are all liberal based institutions the rest of us could care less about. Just like paying the debts of minority farm owners. And oh, I only listed "some" of the things they spent money on. There are others like 70 million to the Kennedy Center and garbage like that.

Uh, guy, the Kennedy Center is a national showcase. You don't want your national showcase looking like shit.

Sure you did OCD. Maybe the problem we have are people with severe mental disorders they refuse to get help for, and would rather live a tortured life because they don't have the balls to man up and admit they have a serious problem.

Laughing at your hypocrisy and failure isn't a serious problem.
I mean, it's mean, and I probably shouldn't enjoy the suffering of others... but I was one of the people who laughed when the Dinosaur ate the lawyer in Jurassic Park.

Correct, but if you don't have proof of insurance, there is little they can do to you. It's not an issue for most cops unless it's a serious accident.

You don't think giving them a $500 ticket and a license suspension for three months is a big deal?

I am serious about fighting crime. That's one of the many reasons I vote Republican. I know what party did this to my city.

Sorry, I just can't help myself.

Yeah, and funny how coincidental it was that Trump left office, and all of a sudden we have this worldwide inflation problem, huh?

Not conincidental at all. You come out of a recession very suddenly and you are going to have short term inflation as demand exceeds supply.

One area that is causing it is transportation. The cost of moving goods from Europe or Asia has spiked because there aren't enough containers or cargo ships available. If you really need something, you need to expedite it, and that costs money.

Yes he is. Good people are leaving because they can no longer do their job. It's becoming more and more dangerous all the time because this dementia patient is welcoming them into our country with their covid and all the other diseases they carry.

Again, the border patrol is one of the most notoriously corrupt agencies... And Trump encouraged it's worst aspects. It needs a good scrubbing.

 

[JoeB131]

The problem with this analysis is that you don’t know that Wilson was corrupt.

Wilson was never mentioned or included in the complaints or incidents that precipitated the department closing.

No, but they didn't rehire him, either. This is kind of part of the problem... taking problem officers and making them another department's problem. This is why one of the major reforms we need is to license police officers like we do nurses, and when they get fired for misconduct, they lose their licenses so they don't show up somewhere else.

Again, the cigar theft was not directly related to the shooting so there was no reason to talk to them.

Wrong. Wilson claimed he tried to detain them because he heard about the shoplifting.

The cigars belonged to the store and thus the store owner. So naturally the owner wanted his money for the cigars. The dope was irrelevant because even if the clerks made a deal with Brown, the owner was not included in this deal and thus the cigars still belonged to him. Get it?

Then he needed to take that up with the clerks, not call Brown a name and get pushed into the rack. But since we don't have his testimony on record, we don't know what actually transpired.

The owner and clerks had to come out publically to refute the narrative of the documentary that a deal was made. If the documentary maker had questioned them they would have told him there was no deal and, unless he was a complete chickenshit, would have had to include it in the documentary. But I suspect that this would not have helped his narrative of a squeaky clean kid murdered by a white cop so he never asked.

Apu and his employees were never put under oath. So, yeah, they aren't going to admit to a felony. Big surprise there.

Again, for the hundredth time, he was not shot for jaywalking or shoplifting. He was shot for attacking an officer.

Only because the cop stopped him for jaywalking and then tried to claim he was making an arrest over shoplifting

Since we don’t know what he said, we can only speculate based on what transpired in the video.

Fact: Brown grabbed cigars from behind the counter.
Fact: He attempted to leave without having paid for the cigars.
Fact: The owner attempted to prevent Brown from leaving the store with unpaid-for merchandise and Brown shoved him.

Again, we don't know, because nobody put them under oath and asked them

He grabbed cigars that had already been bagged up for him the day before. That's kind of the whole point, there was already a relationship between him and the store employees. The police omitted that because they wanted to portray him as this desperate criminal who needed to be shot. Look, here's some more slow-mo clips of him gently pushing Apu into the chip rack. Poor Apu.

Which only shows you hate both groups, you just hate the rich more.

Well, actually, no. I hate the rich for their greed. I despise the white working class for it's stupidity.

To wit. We had it right in this country for a while. That period after the New Deal all the way up until Reagan. The rich paid their fair share, the working class got fair wages, and we were even starting to do something about rampant racism in this country.

Then the rich figured out the best way to get stupid white people like you and Ray to vote against your own economic interests was to play on your racial, religious and sexual fears. And it's worked. They've pretty much dismantled the middle class in this country. But we tell them that their payments are "entitlements" while those payments poorer people get are "welfare".

Given these are the same people whose ancestors used to catch bullets so that a few rich assholes could keep owning slaves, it probably wasn't a hard sell.

You do realize that if they reinstated this rule then at some point, those you applaud for refusing to return to dead end jobs are going to have to take another dead end job to avoid losing benefits, right?

Or they might get the skills to better themselves....

I've got no use for people who game the system.