Former BLM Leaders Speaks Out About "Ugly Truth" About Group

[Ray From Cleveland]

So a process that would take years is going to happen because Biden extended Trump's enhanced unemployment benefits for another month.

I guess people missed the memo. Unemployment dropped to 5.4% yesterday and a million new jobs were created.

Nothing was extended. The fed addition expired months earlier. The commies brought it back again. Trump wouldn't sign it, but Dementia did as soon as he found the White House and went in.

Yes, unemployment fell right after the Republican states stopped the fed additional unemployment in May and June. Gee, imagine that. However even with the vaccines all along and high unemployment, it has yet to drop a full 1% since these clowns started running the federal government. Trump would have had it down in the low 4% range easily.

Uh, guy, the Kennedy Center is a national showcase. You don't want your national showcase looking like shit.

It's yet another commie center that nobody cares about because most nobody has ever been there. Paying off your constituents that promote your commie agenda with taxpayer money or worse yet, putting our country much deeper in debt is theft. Thank God I'll be off this planet when the final collapse takes place.

Laughing at your hypocrisy and failure isn't a serious problem.
I mean, it's mean, and I probably shouldn't enjoy the suffering of others... but I was one of the people who laughed when the Dinosaur ate the lawyer in Jurassic Park.

Trust me, nobody is suffering more than you. You just don't know it. You are no different than a drug addict or alcoholic. You think life is just dandy.

You don't think giving them a $500 ticket and a license suspension for three months is a big deal?

That doesn't happen here at all.

Not conincidental at all. You come out of a recession very suddenly and you are going to have short term inflation as demand exceeds supply.

One area that is causing it is transportation. The cost of moving goods from Europe or Asia has spiked because there aren't enough containers or cargo ships available. If you really need something, you need to expedite it, and that costs money.

Our inflation is caused by the needless borrowing and lack of labor because the government is paying Americans to stay home. Prices go up when business can't find help and we all pay for it.

Again, the border patrol is one of the most notoriously corrupt agencies... And Trump encouraged it's worst aspects. It needs a good scrubbing.

What's corrupt about them, because they tell the truth? Trump's policies worked fantastically, Dementia removed them and now the border is in a crisis. This is a simple 2+2=4 equation.

 

[JoeB131]

Nothing was extended. The fed addition expired months earlier. The commies brought it back again. Trump wouldn't sign it, but Dementia did as soon as he found the White House and went in.

Yes, unemployment fell right after the Republican states stopped the fed additional unemployment in May and June. Gee, imagine that. However even with the vaccines all along and high unemployment, it has yet to drop a full 1% since these clowns started running the federal government. Trump would have had it down in the low 4% range easily.

There's no evidence that unemployment dropped any faster in the states that screwed people on their unemployment benefits than states that didn't. A lot of the states that are trying are being ordered by the courts to restore full benefits. Also, they revised June up to nearly a million jobs as well, before the Republicans started screwing working people.

Trump didn't do shit about unemployment. He rode the wave of job growth Obama left him until he fucked it up and crashed it into a wall. We were fully in recession long before anyone heard of Covid-19, largely because of Trump's trade policies screwing up supply chains.

Trump tried to hold more payments for the unemployed hostage to get his border wall and more tax cuts for rich people.... and when that failed, he stole money from other places to give out enhanced payments.

It's yet another commie center that nobody cares about because most nobody has ever been there. Paying off your constituents that promote your commie agenda with taxpayer money or worse yet, putting our country much deeper in debt is theft. Thank God I'll be off this planet when the final collapse takes place.

Again- we spend far more on middle class entitlements than we do taking care of poor people. We've never gotten out of a recession without a massive surge in government spending, this one is no different.

Trust me, nobody is suffering more than you. You just don't know it. You are no different than a drug addict or alcoholic. You think life is just dandy.

I make good money, I do things I enjoy, I own my own home and vacation property. I'm not living off the government like you are... so there's that.

You on the other hand, collect welfare, live in a slum and put cameras on your house to spy on your neighbors... it's kind of sad.

Our inflation is caused by the needless borrowing and lack of labor because the government is paying Americans to stay home. Prices go up when business can't find help and we all pay for it.

Uh, Trump is the guy who boosted the national debt by EIGHT TRILLION (only about 2 Trillion of which you can attribute to Covid).

The reality is, all commodities are increasing in price, due to break downs in supply chains globally. Again, I'm from that world, the people who still work in it tell me that supply chain has never been as bad as it is now.

What's corrupt about them, because they tell the truth? Trump's policies worked fantastically, Dementia removed them and now the border is in a crisis. This is a simple 2+2=4 equation.

Kids in cages was not a policy that was working wonderfully.

As far as corruption in the Border Patrol, it's rampant.

Years Ago, the Border Patrol’s Discipline System Was Denounced as “Broken.” It’s Still Not Fixed.

An expert panel’s pleas for swifter, more consistent, more transparent punishment of rogue agents languish.

www.propublica.org

Over the past 16 years, CBP employees have earned a reputation for both heroism and misconduct. Working under challenging conditions, they have disrupted dangerous smuggling rings and saved the lives of desperate migrants stranded in the scorching deserts of the American Southwest. But customs officers and Border Patrol agents have also run afoul of the law, often in extreme fashion. Every year, approximately 250 CBP employees are arrested, many on suspicion of serious felonies; dozens have been jailed in recent years on corruption charges, including weapons trafficking and collaborating with Mexican drug cartels.

During the Obama years, critics decried a series of incidents in which Border Patrol agents shot civilians, many of them Mexican nationals, often under questionable circumstances.

But complaints of physical and verbal abuse by migrants taken into custody have not. According to a CBP document, each year the agency “receives and reviews hundreds of allegations” of excessive force. This year, CBP paid $125,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that a Border Patrol agent groped the breasts and genitals of two teenage Guatemalan girls detained in Presidio, Texas. It’s unclear whether the agent at the center of the allegations has been disciplined or ousted from the patrol.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There's no evidence that unemployment dropped any faster in the states that screwed people on their unemployment benefits than states that didn't. A lot of the states that are trying are being ordered by the courts to restore full benefits. Also, they revised June up to nearly a million jobs as well, before the Republicans started screwing working people.

Trump didn't do shit about unemployment. He rode the wave of job growth Obama left him until he fucked it up and crashed it into a wall. We were fully in recession long before anyone heard of Covid-19, largely because of Trump's trade policies screwing up supply chains.

Trump tried to hold more payments for the unemployed hostage to get his border wall and more tax cuts for rich people.... and when that failed, he stole money from other places to give out enhanced payments.

Some states started in May and others (like mine) started in June. We were in a recession before covid? Great, then you should have no problem showing me two negative growth quarters which is how a recession is defined.

Again- we spend far more on middle class entitlements than we do taking care of poor people. We've never gotten out of a recession without a massive surge in government spending, this one is no different.

And yet you support a party that wants to do what now? That's right, massive government spending.

I make good money, I do things I enjoy, I own my own home and vacation property. I'm not living off the government like you are... so there's that.

You on the other hand, collect welfare, live in a slum and put cameras on your house to spy on your neighbors... it's kind of sad.

Yep, and that's what's happening right this very minute. He's installing the camera aimed at the HUD house next door as I write. The only thing that could be better is if the owner of the place next door stopped over and see what's going on. The installer is Egyptian, and I'm sure a fight in Arabic would break out.

In any case about 100 or so motorcycles just went by with a Sheriff's patrol car chasing them. I wish my system was already in place so I could give the video to the Sheriff's department so they could look up each and every license plate and haul each lowlife to jail one by one.

Uh, Trump is the guy who boosted the national debt by EIGHT TRILLION (only about 2 Trillion of which you can attribute to Covid).

The reality is, all commodities are increasing in price, due to break downs in supply chains globally. Again, I'm from that world, the people who still work in it tell me that supply chain has never been as bad as it is now.

Commodities increase or decrease based on supply and demand. Trust me, I traded commodities for a couple of years. I was mostly in agriculture and livestock, and I'd look for any news on the particular commodity that I was interested in to see if supply was going to increase or decrease. If I seen a potential shortage, I'd buy a long contract. When enough long contracts are sold, the price increases.

Kids in cages was not a policy that was working wonderfully.

As far as corruption in the Border Patrol, it's rampant.

Your piece mostly talks about accusations and not actual charges. No surprise since it happens in all law enforcement agencies.

 

[JoeB131]

Some states started in May and others (like mine) started in June. We were in a recession before covid? Great, then you should have no problem showing me two negative growth quarters which is how a recession is defined.

The first quarter of NEgative growth was Q1 2020. Before anyone in the US had Covid.

And yet you support a party that wants to do what now? That's right, massive government spending.

I'm all for massive government spending, but this time, we're doing it right.

Yep, and that's what's happening right this very minute. He's installing the camera aimed at the HUD house next door as I write. The only thing that could be better is if the owner of the place next door stopped over and see what's going on. The installer is Egyptian, and I'm sure a fight in Arabic would break out.

In any case about 100 or so motorcycles just went by with a Sheriff's patrol car chasing them. I wish my system was already in place so I could give the video to the Sheriff's department so they could look up each and every license plate and haul each lowlife to jail one by one.

Are you sure he was chasing them, or were they driving through town and they had a police escort for a planned event.

Commodities increase or decrease based on supply and demand. Trust me, I traded commodities for a couple of years. I was mostly in agriculture and livestock, and I'd look for any news on the particular commodity that I was interested in to see if supply was going to increase or decrease. If I seen a potential shortage, I'd buy a long contract. When enough long contracts are sold, the price increases.

Uh, yeah, okay. Nothing to do with my point.

Your piece mostly talks about accusations and not actual charges. No surprise since it happens in all law enforcement agencies.

Yeah, okay... just remember, law enforcement is always innocent no matter what they get caught doing in RayWorld.

People of color... even when they are innocent they are guilty, so blow away that kid playing with a toy, he had it coming.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

No, but they didn't rehire him, either.

He was already hired on at the Ferguson department.

This is kind of part of the problem... taking problem officers and making them another department's problem. This is why one of the major reforms we need is to license police officers like we do nurses, and when they get fired for misconduct, they lose their licenses so they don't show up somewhere else.

You don’t know that Wilson was a problem officer.

Wrong. Wilson claimed he tried to detain them because he heard about the shoplifting.

Wrong. The cigar theft prompted him to confront Brown but it was not the reason he shot Brown. Ergo, the cigar theft is only circumstantially related to the shooting.

Then he needed to take that up with the clerks, not call Brown a name and get pushed into the rack.

I see that in the span of two posts you went from “Maybe he called Brown the N-word” to “Not call Brown a name”.

You say you wish we had their testimony so we’d know what was said and yet you’ve already convinced yourself the owner called Brown a racial epithet even without the testimony you’ve been whining about.

Why are you even bothering with the argument about the clerks’ and the owner’s testimony when you’ve already convinced yourself that they made a deal and the owner called Brown a “n****r”?

Jesus, what a hypocrite.

But since we don't have his testimony on record, we don't know what actually transpired.

If we don’t know what actually transpired then why are so sure they made a deal and that the owner called Brown a name?

Only because the cop stopped him for jaywalking and then tried to claim he was making an arrest over shoplifting

Wrong. He never attempted to arrest Brown because Brown attacked him before it even got that far. He only tried to get Brown to stop so he could question him.

As has already been explained to you numerous times, when Wilson first confronted the two, he had not seen the cigars in Brown’s hand. It was during this exchange that he glanced down and saw the cigars. He started to drive away, looked in the rearview mirror and noticed they fit the description of the two guys in the police radio call. That’s when he backed up the cruiser, attempted to get out and Brown slammed the cruiser door shut on him and then attacked.

Again, we don't know, because nobody put them under oath and asked them

Then how do you know the owner called Brown a name?

He grabbed cigars that had already been bagged up for him the day before.

Nope. Two things:

1.) When Brown was leaving with the bag, the clerk said something to him and he turned around and put the bag back on the counter, grabbed his dope and left. At this point, store surveillance video shows the clerk taking the cigars out of the bag and putting them back on the shelf. The other clerk took the two sodas that were also in the bag went off to put those back in the cooler.

2.) When Brown came back later, the cigars he grabbed were not in a bag. He grabbed a handful of loose packages from behind the counter and walked out with them.

That's kind of the whole point, there was already a relationship between him and the store employees. The police omitted that because they wanted to portray him as this desperate criminal who needed to be shot. Look, here's some more slow-mo clips of him gently pushing Apu into the chip rack. Poor Apu.

Without the testimony you’ve been calling for, there is no basis on which to assume Brown had some kind of relationship with the clerks.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t declare on one hand that we need their testimony to know what happened and what was said while at the same time declaring that you know what happened and what was said.

Well, actually, no. I hate the rich for their greed. I despise the white working class for it's stupidity.

Such as not returning to work when businesses are begging for workers?

Or they might get the skills to better themselves....

They can seek to get the skills to better themselves at any time. No need to sit at home collecting unemployment to achieve this.

I've got no use for people who game the system.

Such as those who sit at home collecting unemployment instead of going back to work?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The first quarter of NEgative growth was Q1 2020. Before anyone in the US had Covid.

Bullshit. That's when it all started.

I'm all for massive government spending, but this time, we're doing it right.

Maybe you should see all the garbage the commies want to spend money on that has zero to do with any infrastructure. Same as the last bills they pushed through.

Are you sure he was chasing them, or were they driving through town and they had a police escort for a planned event.

Escorts are at the front to warn traffic and perhaps stop it. They don't escort from the back unless there are two units. The installer just left. I love these cameras. All I have to do is figure out how to work all this stuff. In any case, anything that goes on in front or near my place, it's being recorded.

Uh, yeah, okay. Nothing to do with my point.

It has everything to do with your point and mine. When businesses can't get enough labor it creates a production slowdown. When production slows down it creates a shortage. When traders see a shortage they buy long contracts.

Yeah, okay... just remember, law enforcement is always innocent no matter what they get caught doing in RayWorld.

People of color... even when they are innocent they are guilty, so blow away that kid playing with a toy, he had it coming.

When a cop is wrong I'll be the first one to point it out. The problem with you people is you don't know when an officer does wrong by the law, you just don't like what they had to do to bring the situation under control, such as using deadly force on somebody that pulled out an exact replica of a deadly weapon on a police officer.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I am tired of the book length replies in this thread. JoeB you are full of shit.

 

[JoeB131]

He was already hired on at the Ferguson department.

Making stuff up again? The Jennings PD was disbanded in 2011.

You don’t know that Wilson was a problem officer.

He was fired... yes, he was.

You say you wish we had their testimony so we’d know what was said and yet you’ve already convinced yourself the owner called Brown a racial epithet even without the testimony you’ve been whining about.

Why are you even bothering with the argument about the clerks’ and the owner’s testimony when you’ve already convinced yourself that they made a deal and the owner called Brown a “n****r”?

Well, because if that was the case, then it wasn't what the police portrayed it as, was it.

Not that "Grand Theft Cigar" was a good reason to kill the person.

But we see this every fucking time. Some cop or vigilante kills a black person, and suddenly, the black person's whole life is examined to prove they were a bad person and had it coming.

"Look, we found some pot in Botham Jean's apartment!"
"Hey, Trayvon Martin had some jewelry (that no one reported stolen) and a screwdriver!"
"Let's get LaQuan McDonald's Juvy record into court."

If we don’t know what actually transpired then why are so sure they made a deal and that the owner called Brown a name?

Oh, I know what transpired, we just need to get it on the record.

As has already been explained to you numerous times, when Wilson first confronted the two, he had not seen the cigars in Brown’s hand. It was during this exchange that he glanced down and saw the cigars. He started to drive away, looked in the rearview mirror and noticed they fit the description of the two guys in the police radio call. That’s when he backed up the cruiser, attempted to get out and Brown slammed the cruiser door shut on him and then attacked.

Yes, his X-ray eyes saw through the bag, and then magically Brown was able to hand off the bag and start whaling on him at the same time... no, really. Totally believe him, he's a police officer, and those guys never "testily"

1.) When Brown was leaving with the bag, the clerk said something to him and he turned around and put the bag back on the counter, grabbed his dope and left. At this point, store surveillance video shows the clerk taking the cigars out of the bag and putting them back on the shelf. The other clerk took the two sodas that were also in the bag went off to put those back in the cooler.

Really? Now you are just making shit up.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t declare on one hand that we need their testimony to know what happened and what was said while at the same time declaring that you know what happened and what was said.

Well, I don't need anyone's testimony. I know exactly what happened...

I think we need the testimony to put it all on the record as to what happened, that Apu and his boys were dealing drugs, and the whole community knew it.

Such as not returning to work when businesses are begging for workers?

All they have to do is offer a living wage. then people will come back.

They can seek to get the skills to better themselves at any time. No need to sit at home collecting unemployment to achieve this.

Quite the contrary, you can't go back to school and collect unemployment.... This is actually one of the things I would change.

Such as those who sit at home collecting unemployment instead of going back to work?

Last time I checked, Massa Lincoln freed the slaves.

 

[JoeB131]

Bullshit. That's when it all started.

Actually, no. It actually started in the fall of 19, when Trump's attempts at punishing China screwed up a lot of supply chains.

Maybe you should see all the garbage the commies want to spend money on that has zero to do with any infrastructure. Same as the last bills they pushed through.

Government spending money is a good thing. It creates jobs.

Look, guy, if you want to get into a Keynesian vs. Supply Sider debate, history has already judged that. The tax cutters don't even try to claim tax cuts help the economy. They simply say the rich "Deserve" the money they are exploiting out of the working class.

Escorts are at the front to warn traffic and perhaps stop it. They don't escort from the back unless there are two units. The installer just left. I love these cameras. All I have to do is figure out how to work all this stuff. In any case, anything that goes on in front or near my place, it's being recorded.

Again, if there was a massive chase involving a hundred cyclists, it would have probably made national news...

But I'm sure you'll make yourself even more of a nuscience to the local PD than you already are.

It has everything to do with your point and mine. When businesses can't get enough labor it creates a production slowdown. When production slows down it creates a shortage. When traders see a shortage they buy long contracts.

Uh, no, not even close.

The problem is, during TRUMP PLAGUE, a lot of suppliers slowed down production. Now it's ramping back up world wide, which is what is causing shortages and inflation.

When a cop is wrong I'll be the first one to point it out. The problem with you people is you don't know when an officer does wrong by the law, you just don't like what they had to do to bring the situation under control, such as using deadly force on somebody that pulled out an exact replica of a deadly weapon on a police officer.

Except he didn't bring the situation under control. He shot a kid playing with a toy in a playground..

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Actually, no. It actually started in the fall of 19, when Trump's attempts at punishing China screwed up a lot of supply chains.

In the fall of 2019 the commies were still trying to impeach Trump. In the winter of 2020 is when this started to become a concern, and by April, it was a problem. It's monumental to me because that's when I lost my job and career. There were no covid worries and most never even heard about it. It didn't have any economic impact until spring of last year.

Government spending money is a good thing. It creates jobs.

Look, guy, if you want to get into a Keynesian vs. Supply Sider debate, history has already judged that. The tax cutters don't even try to claim tax cuts help the economy. They simply say the rich "Deserve" the money they are exploiting out of the working class.

The rich invest their money and many times in their business. In 2017 the Republicans cut taxes on businesses. Until the Wuhan flu hit, we had over a million more jobs than Americans who could work them. That never happened in my life before.

Uh, no, not even close.

The problem is, during TRUMP PLAGUE, a lot of suppliers slowed down production. Now it's ramping back up world wide, which is what is causing shortages and inflation.

You are ignorant on so many subjects. When supplies increase to meet demand that's when prices go down--not up. That is unless your government is paying people not to work and stay home instead.

 

[JoeB131]

In the fall of 2019 the commies were still trying to impeach Trump. In the winter of 2020 is when this started to become a concern, and by April, it was a problem. It's monumental to me because that's when I lost my job and career. There were no covid worries and most never even heard about it. It didn't have any economic impact until spring of last year.

Actually, it was because of it's effect on supply chain, reducing the efficiency of plants as manufacturing has to wait on components, while companies resourced parts out of China to Vietnam and other places.

How fucked up is it? I went to finally replace my piece of crap couch yesterday.. They won't have the one I want until October.

The rich invest their money and many times in their business. In 2017 the Republicans cut taxes on businesses. Until the Wuhan flu hit, we had over a million more jobs than Americans who could work them. That never happened in my life before.

But that had nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with the fact that Baby Boomers are retiring at a rate of 3.65 million a year without enough millennials to replace them, much less their experience. Which is why all these companies are putting out requests for H1B visas. Had nothing to do with taxes.

Not to worry, when Trump Plague hit, the Rich do what they always do... use the oppurtunity to fuck over working people. Except now working people are realizing their worth, where that "unskilled job" suddenly became an "essential position".

You are ignorant on so many subjects. When supplies increase to meet demand that's when prices go down--not up. That is unless your government is paying people not to work and stay home instead.

Except that's not what happened. Factories shut down. Production slowed. For instance, in Taiwan, they rely on bringing in workers from the Philippines and Vietnam to work in their factories as guest workers, but now they only have to rely on local workers because they can't get VISAs due to Covid. The lockdown in India in April caused months of delays.

The thing is, all of Trump's tariffs didn't cause the factory jobs to come back to the US. It just got them to look at countries other than China (which was already becoming too expensive as Chinese standards of living have been rising for decades.)

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Actually, it was because of it's effect on supply chain, reducing the efficiency of plants as manufacturing has to wait on components, while companies resourced parts out of China to Vietnam and other places.

How fucked up is it? I went to finally replace my piece of crap couch yesterday.. They won't have the one I want until October.

Yep, because people are still sitting home instead of working. That's my point. Too much demand and not enough supply equals higher prices which equals out of control inflation.

But that had nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with the fact that Baby Boomers are retiring at a rate of 3.65 million a year without enough millennials to replace them, much less their experience. Which is why all these companies are putting out requests for H1B visas. Had nothing to do with taxes.

It had nothing to do with baby boomers because we've been retiring for years now. I'm at the end of the baby boom generation. It had to do with a vibrant economy, consumer confidence, business confidence and reasonable fuel prices.

Except that's not what happened. Factories shut down. Production slowed. For instance, in Taiwan, they rely on bringing in workers from the Philippines and Vietnam to work in their factories as guest workers, but now they only have to rely on local workers because they can't get VISAs due to Covid. The lockdown in India in April caused months of delays.

The thing is, all of Trump's tariffs didn't cause the factory jobs to come back to the US. It just got them to look at countries other than China (which was already becoming too expensive as Chinese standards of living have been rising for decades.)

It likely would have brought jobs back but the Wuhan virus threw a monkey wrench in the works. Watch in 2024 if Trump brings it back again and see what happens.

 

[JoeB131]

Yep, because people are still sitting home instead of working. That's my point. Too much demand and not enough supply equals higher prices which equals out of control inflation.

It had nothing to do with baby boomers because we've been retiring for years now. I'm at the end of the baby boom generation. It had to do with a vibrant economy, consumer confidence, business confidence and reasonable fuel prices.

Actually, the first Baby Boomers started retiring in 2011. So the math. Baby Boom Starts in 1946, first one hits retirement age in 2011. Unemployment went from 10% in October 2009 to 4.7% in January 2017 when Obama left. Trump got it down to 3.5 because in the three years he was in, 12 million more baby boomers exited the job pool. But since Trump fucks up everything, he got it up to 14.8%, a record not seen since the Great Depression.

Then again, this is a guy who could fuck up selling steaks and vodka.

Biden has gotten it down from 6.3% to 5.4% in six months. What a guy!

It likely would have brought jobs back but the Wuhan virus threw a monkey wrench in the works. Watch in 2024 if Trump brings it back again and see what happens.

Uh,

600,000 dead
Riots in the streets
Kids in cages
Live expectancy declined by 1.5 years
14.8% unemployment
165,000 businesses shuttered
a net 10 million jobs lost

We don't want to see what Trump might do again if we were ever foolish enough to give him control.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Actually, the first Baby Boomers started retiring in 2011. So the math. Baby Boom Starts in 1946, first one hits retirement age in 2011. Unemployment went from 10% in October 2009 to 4.7% in January 2017 when Obama left. Trump got it down to 3.5 because in the three years he was in, 12 million more baby boomers exited the job pool. But since Trump fucks up everything, he got it up to 14.8%, a record not seen since the Great Depression.

Then again, this is a guy who could fuck up selling steaks and vodka.

Biden has gotten it down from 6.3% to 5.4% in six months. What a guy!

Yeah, less than 1% drop after a pandemic in six months. When are the parades scheduled?

Truth of the matter is the biggest drop came when Republican states (17 including mine) cut the fed unemployment. Given we had and still have a labor shortage, no new jobs were created. They've been there for months now, it's just that people are starting to take those jobs for various reasons.

Uh,

600,000 dead
Riots in the streets
Kids in cages
Live expectancy declined by 1.5 years
14.8% unemployment
165,000 businesses shuttered
a net 10 million jobs lost

We don't want to see what Trump might do again if we were ever foolish enough to give him control.

And this quote displays the problem: you leftists refuse to learn anything. I told you over and over how you lose every argument when using lies, but you can't help yourself. You people are so programmed by CNN it's like watching the hypnotist on stage that gets a guy to come up and start squawking like a chicken.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, less than 1% drop after a pandemic in six months. When are the parades scheduled?

Truth of the matter is the biggest drop came when Republican states (17 including mine) cut the fed unemployment. Given we had and still have a labor shortage, no new jobs were created. They've been there for months now, it's just that people are starting to take those jobs for various reasons.

They haven't released state by state numbers, yet, so you really have no evidence of that. Not that you ever go with evidence.

And this quote displays the problem: you leftists refuse to learn anything. I told you over and over how you lose every argument when using lies, but you can't help yourself. You people are so programmed by CNN it's like watching the hypnotist on stage that gets a guy to come up and start squawking like a chicken.

We didn't have to "learn" anything. We told you that Trump was a bad idea. Most of the GOP establishment said he was a bad idea. You all supported him anyway, and because 200 years ago, some slave rapists wanted to get home to fuck their slave-girls, they created this awful system to pick presidents where someone can get thejob even after the rest of us said it was a bad idea.

And the end result.


600,000 dead
Riots in the streets
Kids in cages
Live expectancy declined by 1.5 years
14.8% unemployment
165,000 businesses shuttered
a net 10 million jobs lost

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Making stuff up again? The Jennings PD was disbanded in 2011.

What’s your point? Wilson was let go along with everyone else and was already hired on at Ferguson when the Jennings department opened back up and rehired those other officers.

He was fired... yes, he was.

The two guys they rehired were also fired, so what?

Your narrative on this - like all your narratives - is contradictory. You’ve said before that the entire department was corrupt and is why they let all the officers go. On the other hand, you’ve asked me more than once why Wilson was not rehired if he was not a problem officer.

If all the officers were corrupt or problem officers then Wilson not being rehired is irrelevant and the question is moot.

Well, because if that was the case, then it wasn't what the police portrayed it as, was it.

What?

Not that "Grand Theft Cigar" was a good reason to kill the person.

Again, he wasn’t shot for the cigar theft, he was shot for attacking an officer.

Why do you persist with this “murdered for shoplifting” line of argument when you know full well he was shot for attacking the officer?

But we see this every fucking time. Some cop or vigilante kills a black person, and suddenly, the black person's whole life is examined to prove they were a bad person and had it coming.

Do you not understand that if Brown had not swiped the cigars, none of this would have happened? Wilson would have asked them to get on the sidewalk and that would have been the end of it.

Brown stole property that didn’t belong to him and the police were called. This means that Brown was not the “black child” angel you make him out to be.

Oh, I know what transpired, we just need to get it on the record.

I asked you before and of course you refused to answer: where does this dope-for-cigars narrative come from? How is it you know what actually happened without their testimony on record? And how do you know the owner called him a name?

Yes, his X-ray eyes saw through the bag, and then magically Brown was able to hand off the bag and start whaling on him at the same time... no, really. Totally believe him, he's a police officer, and those guys never "testily"

Are you lame or something? The cigars were not in a bag. He swiped loose packages from behind the counter, gave those to Dorian, grabbed more from behind the counter and walked out after shoving the owner.

The only time the cigars were in a bag was during his initial visit and he left that bag on the counter when he left. The clerk then REMOVED those cigars from the bag and put them back on the shelf.

Really? Now you are just making shit up.

It’s in the store surveillance video, dumbass.

Well, I don't need anyone's testimony. I know exactly what happened...

How? Again, how is it you know this without their testimony?

I think we need the testimony to put it all on the record as to what happened, that Apu and his boys were dealing drugs, and the whole community knew it.

If it’s not on record then how do you know they were?

All they have to do is offer a living wage. then people will come back.

This only tells me they’re lazy entitled fucks.

Quite the contrary, you can't go back to school and collect unemployment.... This is actually one of the things I would change.

Going to school is not considered to be unemployed and it shouldn’t be.

Last time I checked, Massa Lincoln freed the slaves.

Except these people have made themselves slaves to the whims of government.

There’s no fucking way that I for one would sit around waiting to see what the government is going to do with unemployment or stimulus checks before taking charge of my own life.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And the end result.


600,000 dead
Riots in the streets
Kids in cages
Live expectancy declined by 1.5 years
14.8% unemployment
165,000 businesses shuttered
a net 10 million jobs lost

600,000 dead. Are you including 200,000 dead under Biden in that figure?

Riots in the street because of commie governors and Mayors. No problem in Republican areas.

Kids in cages? You mean the cages DumBama had built? Now they are keeping them in truck containers, and refuse anybody access to see what's inside.

Life expectancy is not the responsibility of any US President.

165,000 businesses closed, yes they are, mostly in commie areas that shutdown their cities and states.

10 million jobs lost, yes they were thanks to commie cities and states coupled with the Communist Chinese you leftists love so much.

 

[JoeB131]

What’s your point? Wilson was let go along with everyone else and was already hired on at Ferguson when the Jennings department opened back up and rehired those other officers.

Point was, he was a corrupt officer that they didn't want back. Too bad Furgeson decided to hire him.

Your narrative on this - like all your narratives - is contradictory. You’ve said before that the entire department was corrupt and is why they let all the officers go. On the other hand, you’ve asked me more than once why Wilson was not rehired if he was not a problem officer.

If all the officers were corrupt or problem officers then Wilson not being rehired is irrelevant and the question is moot.

You're babbling. They had to disband the entire department. A few good officers were retained. The shitheels like WIlson weren't.

Why do you persist with this “murdered for shoplifting” line of argument when you know full well he was shot for attacking the officer?

He was shot because a racist officer was angry and lost his cool.

Do you not understand that if Brown had not swiped the cigars, none of this would have happened? Wilson would have asked them to get on the sidewalk and that would have been the end of it.

Brown stole property that didn’t belong to him and the police were called. This means that Brown was not the “black child” angel you make him out to be.

Except if he had taken the cigars as part of an arrangement with the store clerks, he didn't steal them.

I asked you before and of course you refused to answer: where does this dope-for-cigars narrative come from? How is it you know what actually happened without their testimony on record? And how do you know the owner called him a name?

I've already answered. Not the answer you want to hear, but that's your problem.

Are you lame or something? The cigars were not in a bag. He swiped loose packages from behind the counter, gave those to Dorian, grabbed more from behind the counter and walked out after shoving the owner.

The only time the cigars were in a bag was during his initial visit and he left that bag on the counter when he left. The clerk then REMOVED those cigars from the bag and put them back on the shelf.

He grabbed the bag that the clerks had put them in behind the counter.

This only tells me they’re lazy entitled fucks.

Well, they're white people. White people always think theyare "entitled". But in this case, they may well have a point. You are asking them to take shit jobs with a high degree of contact with a public that refuses to get vaccinated.

Going to school is not considered to be unemployed and it shouldn’t be.

Why not? Frankly, it's kind of a benefit. You go to school, you are going to be a higher earner most of your life. That will pay dividends down the road.

xcept these people have made themselves slaves to the whims of government.

There’s no fucking way that I for one would sit around waiting to see what the government is going to do with unemployment or stimulus checks before taking charge of my own life.

Um, good for you. Then again, you aren't working a shit job for a slimy employer that you are in no hurry to get back to.

 

[JoeB131]

600,000 dead. Are you including 200,000 dead under Biden in that figure?

The plague started under Trump and spread because he refused to get it under control. Heck, we'd have it under control now if all the MAGAts would get their fucking shots.

Riots in the street because of commie governors and Mayors. No problem in Republican areas.

Riots in the streets because a racist president cheered on racist cops.

Kids in cages? You mean the cages DumBama had built? Now they are keeping them in truck containers, and refuse anybody access to see what's inside.

Nope, I mean the concentration camps where Trump kept kids for months, or the 6000 kids who the government misplaced.

Life expectancy is not the responsibility of any US President.

Yet Trump was the first one to see it go down.

165,000 businesses closed, yes they are, mostly in commie areas that shutdown their cities and states.

Well, not true. A bunch of businesses went under in the sleepy little town I go on vacation at, too.

10 million jobs lost, yes they were thanks to commie cities and states coupled with the Communist Chinese you leftists love so much.

Trump doesn't get to be president of half the country. If the country as a whole was worse off, it's on him.

Oh, another Gem to add... Trump had the worst GDP Growth since Hoover.

GDP growth under Trump was worst since Hoover

The former president’s claim that he created the ‘greatest economy in the world’ is a fantasy

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Point was, he was a corrupt officer that they didn't want back. Too bad Furgeson decided to hire him.

He was already hired on at Ferguson so it’s irrelevant.

Give me a link to something that shows the Jennings police department pointedly saying they did not want Wilson back.

You're babbling. They had to disband the entire department. A few good officers were retained. The shitheels like WIlson weren't.

No, they were not retained, they were let go along with Wilson and everyone else. The fact that they were rehired proves they were not retained.

He was shot because a racist officer was angry and lost his cool.

So you say.

It’s a simple fact that attacking an officer unprovoked and trying to take his gun will likely get you shot.

Except if he had taken the cigars as part of an arrangement with the store clerks, he didn't steal them.

Which you don’t know because we don’t have their testimony.

In any case, someone viewed it as a theft and called the cops.

If a deal was supposedly made with the clerks then Brown would know the owner was not part of the deal and so he should have mentioned this to the owner when the owner tried to stop him. Instead, Brown resorted to violence.

I've already answered. Not the answer you want to hear, but that's your problem.

The fuck you did. That is a bald faced lie.

Usually I get snark from you when I ask you a question but this time I got squat. In fact, you completely removed it when you quoted my last post and was not included with the other quoted portions.

In short, you evaded the question altogether. Why? Because you know that I know you did not get it from a legitimate source. You’re just repeating a narrative that was started on social media to downplay Brown’s actions before the shooting.

He grabbed the bag that the clerks had put them in behind the counter.

Wrong. The store video clearly shows the clerk removing them from the bag and putting them back on the shelf after Brown left.

Besides, the later video where he grabbed the cigars and shoved the owner clearly shows that these cigars were not in a bag.

Well, they're white people. White people always think theyare "entitled". But in this case, they may well have a point. You are asking them to take shit jobs with a high degree of contact with a public that refuses to get vaccinated.

Blaming Covid now? Man, you are desperate.

Why not? Frankly, it's kind of a benefit. You go to school, you are going to be a higher earner most of your life. That will pay dividends down the road.

If you’re not working and going to school then who’s going to pay the unemployment insurance you dumbfuck?

Um, good for you. Then again, you aren't working a shit job for a slimy employer that you are in no hurry to get back to.

When I told you I was content with my job and employer you basically told me in so many words that I was deluding myself. Now you’re telling me I’m not working a shit job for a slimy employer.

You’re contradicting yourself again.