For years Democrats have begged for higher taxes…if that’s what tariffs are then why all the resistance?

[JoeB131]

You sir, are a reprehensible individual...And I mean that sincerely....

You sir, are a cowering toady.

You'd be the one of the peasants who cheered when the king spat on them.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You sir, are a reprehensible individual...And I mean that sincerely....

Gaslighting again.

 

[SweetTea]

No, I have no desire to be like the rich, making my money off people who do the actual work.

This is the way in works everywhere. You believe owners should make the same as their employees? Talk about stifling economic growth.

 

[JoeB131]

This is the way in works everywhere. You believe owners should make the same as their employees? Talk about stifling economic growth.

Maybe it shouldn't work that way.

For most of history, you slaved your whole life to serve the King. Then we got rid of the Kings, and we were better off for it.

The ironic thing is that we had it right for a while. The rich paid their fair share and a third of the workforce was unionized, and we had prosperity like we had never seen before. (Well, if you were white, anyway.)

 

[SweetTea]

Maybe it shouldn't work that way.

For most of history, you slaved your whole life to serve the King. Then we got rid of the Kings, and we were better off for it.

The ironic thing is that we had it right for a while. The rich paid their fair share and a third of the workforce was unionized, and we had prosperity like we had never seen before. (Well, if you were white, anyway.)

You need to move to a Socialist country. Seriously, they would meet all your needs and everyone would could live in the same block houses and make the same amount of money. Stop try to ruin the greatest country in the world.(Yeah, it really is)

 

[JoeB131]

You need to move to a Socialist country. Seriously, they would meet all your needs and everyone would could live in the same block houses and make the same amount of money. Stop try to ruin the greatest country in the world.(Yeah, it really is)

Naw, we just need to fix THIS country back to where it was before Reagan fucked it up.

Reagan, the Bushes, and Trump already ruined this country.

 

[j-mac]

Maybe it shouldn't work that way.

Ya think? Gheeze!

For most of history, you slaved your whole life to serve the King. Then we got rid of the Kings, and we were better off for it.

Weath is attained through total devotion, and the drive to succeed. These people aren’t Kings. That’s just your jealousy talking.

The ironic thing is that we had it right for a while. The rich paid their fair share and …

The income tax may have been astronomical, but these people found a way to hide their compensation in other vehicles of wealth. Such as stock options, offshoring, or they moved their businesses out of America, displacing hundreds of working Americans. Something you blamed on Republicans as well.

a third of the workforce was unionized,

Unions had their place before the government regulated wage, and safety. They too became corrupt, and wages alone weren’t enough to sustain membership. So, they lost the ear of the worker when they too started existing for sheer power.

and we had prosperity like we had never seen before.

Trump is trying to bring that back through manufacturing …

(Well, if you were white, anyway.)

Take the race baiting somewhere else.

 

[hadit]

Sure. What they were paying before Reagan fucked up the Tax Code would be fine.

Now, left up to me, we'd confiscate everything they have and harvest them for transplant organs, but that would be a bit harsh, so I'll just go with returning to the pre-Reagan rates.

Don't forget to put back the deductions and loopholes Reagan got rid of when you put back those high rates. Somehow, you never talk about them.

 

[JoeB131]

Weath is attained through total devotion, and the drive to succeed. These people aren’t Kings. That’s just your jealousy talking.

Nope, that's a realization that wealth inequality is not a good thing. The reason why most of those Kings wound up dead was because people had quite enough of them.

Same thing will happen to Capitalists at some point. It won't be pretty.

The income tax may have been astronomical, but these people found a way to hide their compensation in other vehicles of wealth. Such as stock options, offshoring, or they moved their businesses out of America, displacing hundreds of working Americans. Something you blamed on Republicans as well.

Back then, they prosecuted people for income tax evasion. That Swiss Bank account won't do you much good in Sing-Sing.

Unions had their place before the government regulated wage, and safety. They too became corrupt, and wages alone weren’t enough to sustain membership. So, they lost the ear of the worker when they too started existing for sheer power.

In short, the rich didn't like paying a fair wage, and demolished the organization that made them do it. ANd we are all worse off for it.

Trump is trying to bring that back through manufacturing …

Ain't gonna happen. He's lying to you, but you want to be lied to.

If anyone opens a factory now, it's not going to employ that many people. It will employ robots.

Take the race baiting somewhere else.

 

[SweetTea]

Don't forget to put back the deductions and loopholes Reagan got rid of when you put back those high rates. Somehow, you never talk about them.

He fails to understand that the ultra-rich are Democrats now because they know the Democrats will protect them. That hasn’t sunk in yet. He is voting for the very things he professes to hate because he believes the rhetoric spewed by the Democratic Party. That seems to be a pattern on this forum. Mac1958 has the same problem.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

He fails to understand that the ultra-rich are Democrats now because they know the Democrats will protect them. That hasn’t sunk in yet. He is voting for the very things he professes to hate because he believes the rhetoric spewed by the Democratic Party. That seems to be a pattern on this forum. Mac1958 has the same problem.

DBA, you are a goof.

Which party will vote en masse for the tax breaks for the rich?

 

[SweetTea]

DBA, you are a goof.

Which party will vote en masse for the tax breaks for the rich?

Do tell. Let me guess. You bought into the false narrative that the TCJA was a tax cut (only) for the rich. If you cared to take the time to look at the bracket re-alignment from TCJA, you would see that is patently false.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Do tell. Let me guess. You bought into the false narrative that the TCJA was a tax cut (only) for the rich. If you cared to take the time to look at the bracket re-alignment from TCJA, you would see that is patently false.

I know, and you know, goofus, that the GOP will vote en masse for the tax breaks?

Will the democrats. No?

 

[j-mac]

Nope, that's a realization that wealth inequality is not a good thing.

The wonderful thing about America is the opportunity…But, it’s up to the individual…

The reason why most of those Kings wound up dead was because people had quite enough of them.

We don’t have Kings here…If you want to use that as analogy, then anyone can be a king…

Same thing will happen to Capitalists at some point. It won't be pretty.

So, you’re saying a violent revolt is going to happen? Not likely…

Back then, they prosecuted people for income tax evasion. That Swiss Bank account won't do you much good in Sing-Sing.

Then they’ll just move their companies to other countries, and the working people wont have jobs…good plan.

In short, the rich didn't like paying a fair wage, and demolished the organization that made them do it. ANd we are all worse off for it.

Unions are still out there…And they’re protected in organizing…So, if the people want them, they can vote them in…

Ain't gonna happen. He's lying to you, but you want to be lied to.

Ok, I feel the same of your BS…

If anyone opens a factory now, it's not going to employ that many people. It will employ robots.

Not as many as you think…Robotics are expensive, plus the need support staff..So, instead of teaching nonsense in our colleges, we need to turn out fields like engineering.

 

[SweetTea]

I know, and you know, goofus, that the GOP will vote en masse for the tax breaks?

Will the democrats. No?

Is that why Democrats in high tax blue states raised so much cain when Trump capped their SALT deduction? Wealthy Democrats talk a big game because it gives them the warm fuzzies and makes them appear as though they care, but when the rubber meets the road, they will not vote to raise their own taxes. You are confused.

 

[j-mac]

Which party will vote en masse for the tax breaks for the rich?

Using the lie won’t help your argument…Everyone would vote for tax breaks. And it’s not just for the rich either…That’s just a stupid narrative your death cult has you believing…

 

[SweetTea]

Using the lie won’t help your argument…Everyone would vote for tax breaks. And it’s not just for the rich either…That’s just a stupid narrative your death cult has you believing…

Right, the difference is Democrats would only vote for tax breaks that benefit them personally. Republicans are generally ok with tax breaks for everyone.

 

[j-mac]

Right, the difference is Democrats would only vote for tax breaks that benefit them personally. Republicans are generally ok with tax breaks for everyone.

Because we know that the more capital that the wealthy get to keep, the more they invest, creating jobs for the working people among us.

The liberal mindset is that the rich are all just greedy hoarders of wealth, of a static pie that they don’t benefit from…Unless they’re talking about government spending, then the sky is the limit, and we’ll never run out of money…They’ve been indoctrinated to believe that the government is the answer.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Is that why Democrats in high tax blue states raised so much cain when Trump capped their SALT deduction? Wealthy Democrats talk a big game because it gives them the warm fuzzies and makes them appear as though they care, but when the rubber meets the road, they will not vote to raise their own taxes. You are confused.

Failed deflection, goofy. GOP will vote for tax breaks for the rich. Yes or no. You don't go forward here until you answer.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Using the lie won’t help your argument…Everyone would vote for tax breaks. And it’s not just for the rich either…That’s just a stupid narrative your death cult has you believing…

It's a lie to say that the GOP will not vote en masse for tax breaks for the rich.

And another GOP $5T to the deficit.