For years Democrats have begged for higher taxes…if that’s what tariffs are then why all the resistance?

[JoeB131]

Look at your end year, 1968. That was the start of The Great Society (aka Johnson’s 200 Year Plan). The majority of those years were also The Military Industrial Complex.

Um, we still have a military-industrial complex. And a prison-industrial complex.

I mean, it's funny to watch you wingnuts all act like a bunch of hippies because the real heroes despise Trump.

You want to go back to those years of the Democrat Party with the Republicans on the sidelines, have at it. How are you going to accomplish this and achieve your socialist utopia of redistribution of wealth?

Well, pretty simple.

Make the rich pay their fair share.
Adequately fund education, research, and infrastructure.
Protect and enforce worker's rights.

You know, like we were doing before 1980 when Ronnie Ray-Gun started fucking everything up.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Um, we still have a military-industrial complex. And a prison-industrial complex.

I mean, it's funny to watch you wingnuts all act like a bunch of hippies because the real heroes despise Trump.

You don’t think cradle-to-crave welfare generations and corrupt government bureaucracies have had any impact on the economy?

Well, pretty simple.

Make the rich pay their fair share.

Please stop with the rich “paying their fair share” bullshit. The only way this can be taken seriously is when there is responsible spending. You people are like the spouse that spends all of the money, maxes out the debt, and then screams at the other spouse about not paying their fair share.

 

[mudwhistle]

Democrats have told us that higher taxes levied on the people means more revenue in the general fund/treasury which means more free shit for the people.
If what they say is true then why aren’t they embracing and encouraging the use of tariffs?

Simple......Democrats support what they're told to support.

 

[KarsaOrlong]

Simple......Democrats support what they're told to support.

Rich coming from maga. Democrats are worthless, but maga is a death cult..you've all been had by a new York conman and his neonazi advisers.

 

[KarsaOrlong]

You don’t think cradle-to-crave welfare generations and corrupt government bureaucracies have had any impact on the economy?


Please stop with the rich “paying their fair share” bullshit. The only way this can be taken seriously is when there is responsible spending. You people are like the spouse that spends all of the money, maxes out the debt, and then screams at the other spouse about not paying their fair share.

Nonsense. The welfare state is a tool of oppression, but anyone "left of left" wouldn't appeal to such nonsense without directing their angst at the rich, who have universally destroyed this country through mass theft.

 

[mudwhistle]

Rich coming from maga. Democrats are worthless, but maga is a death cult..you've all been had by a new York conman and his neonazi advisers.

That's rich.......taking into consideration that we're not the ones trying to break criminals out of prison.

Nor are we the folks that are supporting terrorists.

 

[JoeB131]

You don’t think cradle-to-crave welfare generations and corrupt government bureaucracies have had any impact on the economy?

A few points.

1) This has nothing to do with the "Military-Industrial Complex", which is what you were on about.
2) Very few people live "Cradle to grave" for generations. Most people on assistance are only on it for a few years.
3) Many people on assistance have jobs, just not jobs that pay very well, which is why you have Section 8, SNAP, Medicaid, etc.

Please stop with the rich “paying their fair share” bullshit. The only way this can be taken seriously is when there is responsible spending. You people are like the spouse that spends all of the money, maxes out the debt, and then screams at the other spouse about not paying their fair share.

The top 1% has 41% of the wealth. They certainly did not do the 41% of the labor that created that wealth.

 

[LeftofLeft]

A few points.

1) This has nothing to do with the "Military-Industrial Complex", which is what you were on about.
2) Very few people live "Cradle to grave" for generations. Most people on assistance are only on it for a few years.
3) Many people on assistance have jobs, just not jobs that pay very well, which is why you have Section 8, SNAP, Medicaid, etc.

“Few” and “Many” without empirical data to back them up are specious claims at best.

The top 1% has 41% of the wealth. They certainly did not do the 41% of the labor that created that wealth.

41 percent of the wealth creates jobs for labor and opportunity for people to earn wealth.

 

[Nostra]

Because it's a tax on the working class and not the wealthy, who need to be paying more in taxes.

Duh.

How much more do the rich need to pay? Break down the numbers, Simp.

 

[Mr Natural]

How much more do the rich need to pay? Break down the numbers, Simp.

Back in the glorious ‘50s they were taxed as high as 90%.

And somehow they still managed to get by.

 

[JoeB131]

“Few” and “Many” without empirical data to back them up are specious claims at best.

So are your claims that we have generational cradle to grave welfare recipiants.

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/70301/900288-Time-on-Welfare-and-Welfare-Dependency.pdf

41 percent of the wealth creates jobs for labor and opportunity for people to earn wealth.

Bullshit. The number and quality of jobs has declined as the rich have gotten richer.

 

[LeftofLeft]

So are your claims that we have generational cradle to grave welfare recipiants.

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/70301/900288-Time-on-Welfare-and-Welfare-Dependency.pdf

We didn’t have the level of welfare we’ve had post 1968. You referred to the 20 years prior has good years because of Democrats. Comparably between pre and post 1968, that’s generational welfare.

Bullshit. The number and quality of jobs has declined as the rich have gotten richer.

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The argument is not weather jobs keep pace or head in the same positive direction as wealth growth. The argument is that wealth creates jobs.