Zone1 For those who've ever wondered if they can or will be saved....

[JustAnotherNut]

A lighthearted explanation, but is the foundation of our faith........

 

[GLASNOST]

For those who've ever wondered if they can or will be saved....​

The only thing anyone needs to know is this .....
"Freedom is the ability to take whichever path you choose to heaven".
Voltaire

 

[JustAnotherNut]

The only thing anyone needs to know is this .....
"Freedom is the ability to take whichever path you choose to heaven".
Voltaire

The question would be IF you were accepted into Heaven by the path you chose.



But the point of the video is to show, it's not what you know that gets you in, but is all about WHO you know.


As the guy said at the very end, quoting Bible verse Ephesians 2:8-9

8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

 

[GLASNOST]

The only thing anyone needs to know is this .....
"Freedom is the ability to take whichever path you choose to heaven".
Voltaire

The question would be IF you were accepted into Heaven by the path you chose.

And you don't know the answer one way or the other so choosing your own path is the most sensible thing to do.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

And you don't know the answer one way or the other so choosing your own path is the most sensible thing to do.

Nothing in the Bible has anything to do with 'sensible' or logical by the world standards.

For myself, I choose the path of my Christian faith and therefore posted this thread for others who may have doubts or question whether they are good enough. The story told within the video explicitly says you don't have to be good enough, because salvation isn't what you do, but WHO you know.

If you choose a different path, then why didn't you just keep scrolling? Maybe somewhere deep down you want to know more about Christianity. Try reading the Bible.

 

[GLASNOST]

The only thing anyone needs to know is this .....
"Freedom is the ability to take whichever path you choose to heaven".
Voltaire

The question would be IF you were accepted into Heaven by the path you chose.

And you don't know the answer one way or the other so choosing your own path is the most sensible thing to do.

Nothing in the Bible has anything to do with 'sensible' or logical ...

That's what I am trying to tell you. You made your own choice ... and you chose the Bible despite this last statement of yours. If you consider that choice (your choice) to be a good one then you should be satisfied, right? And so should everyone else who've made their own choises also be satisfied, right?

 

[fncceo]

If I need to be saved … I will call the professional

 

[JustAnotherNut]

That's what I am trying to tell you. You made your own choice ... and you chose the Bible despite this last statement of yours. If you consider that choice (your choice) to be a good one then you should be satisfied, right? And so should everyone else who've made their own choises also be satisfied, right?

Yes and true enough



Thank you and fncceo for trolling

 

[GLASNOST]

..... You made your own choice ... and you chose the Bible .... If you consider that choice (your choice) to be a good one then you should be satisfied, right? And so should everyone else who've made their own choises also be satisfied, right?

.... Thank you .... for trolling

Why did you say that?

 

[ding]

"Freedom is the ability to take whichever path you choose to heaven".

Then you are screwed because the statement that "Freedom is the ability to take whichever path you choose to heaven" means that true liberty lies in the freedom of conscience, thought, and religious belief, free from the coercion of state-mandated dogma.

 

[ding]

And you don't know the answer one way or the other so choosing your own path is the most sensible thing to do.

The answer - regardless of religious practice - is it is always the correct path to have a relationship with the Creator.

 

[ding]

Why did you say that?

Maybe because she knows you?

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Why did you say that?

The only thing anyone needs to know is this .....
"Freedom is the ability to take whichever path you choose to heaven".
Voltaire

And you don't know the answer one way or the other so choosing your own path is the most sensible thing to do.

That's what I am trying to tell you. You made your own choice ... and you chose the Bible despite this last statement of yours. If you consider that choice (your choice) to be a good one then you should be satisfied, right? And so should everyone else who've made their own choises also be satisfied, right?

Because every one of your posts in this thread has been to derail or detract from it's intent....which was made clear by the title, the OP and every one of my responses. Either you have a very low reading comprehension level to understand that.....or you're trolling. Mainly because your posts have been argumentative by trying to make YOUR point that is contradictory to the thread. As a reminder, this is the Religion & Ethics forum........if you are not interested in religion or Christianity, then what is the point of posting here, if not to troll???

BTW......please DON'T answer or respond any further

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Maybe because she knows you?

I don't.......but it never fails when I start a thread, especially about Religion or faith.......there is always somebody that has to muck it up in some way

 

[GLASNOST]

For those who've ever wondered if they can or will be saved....​

"Freedom is the ability to take whichever path you choose to heaven".
Voltaire

every one of your posts in this thread has been to derail or detract from it's intent

Read all of my posts again. I have offered solace and the promise of being "saved" to EVERYONE ... including you.

.... which was made clear by the title...

Yes. To be "saved". I assured you that you (yourself) have found the confidence in knowing that you have made the right choice for you, and ..... that all others have succeeded in finding the same confidence for themselves. How can you possibly see my message as being "derailing" or "detracting"? What is it about my encouragement that you dislike?

 

[DennisPTate]

A lighthearted explanation, but is the foundation of our faith........

That is awesome and that is essentially exactly what near death experiencer Robert Marshall of forty four hours in heaven has been saying since his 2024 brush with death that reminds me of Lazarus in many ways.

Robert Marshall​

Robert Marshall is the only known individual to share a living, medically documented testimony of dying and spending 44 hours in Heaven with Jesus and then having his life restored.

On May 19, 2024, Robert died three times in the ICU following catastrophic respiratory failure and cardiac arrest. Medical records confirm prolonged oxygen deprivation and clinical brain death. Yet during those hours, Robert experienced something extraordinary — he found himself walking with Jesus in Heaven.

For 44 hours, Jesus taught him about Scripture, Heaven, eternity, and the Kingdom of God in ways beyond earthly understanding.

On May 23, 2024, against all medical expectation, Robert’s life was fully restored. His brain and organs returned to normal function, astonishing doctors and medical staff.

After his return, Jesus gave him a clear command:
to share what Jesus revealed and taught him, and what he experienced and saw — with anybody, anytime, anyplace.

Today, Robert speaks across the nation and internationally at churches, conferences, revivals, retreats, radio and television programs, and special events — bringing a message of hope, truth, and the reality of Heaven.

Home | 44 Hours In Heaven

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org

 

[DennisPTate]

If I need to be saved … I will call the professional

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Now it is true that our wives and girlfriends from the past, and children and grandchildren, have been sent on a mission to save us, but so apparently have our dogs, cats and horses!

Question:

Will our Pets be in Heaven?

I am happy to say absolutely! Yes!
Those who read the book “44 HOURS IN HEAVEN” already know the answer and why I am so sure. For those who have not had the chance to read the book, I am excited to share how and why my answer is yes.

On May 19th, 2024, I died 3 times and went to Heaven each time I died. When I died the 2nd time, I went to Heaven instantly. Just like the first time I went to Heaven, I experienced the love and peace, the beauty, the smells in the air, and the feelings of being connected to everything and everyone and they were a welcoming familiarity of coming home.

Unlike the first time, I was standing at the edge of a beautiful field of tall grass that had the same beautiful trees scattered throughout. Looking to my left, in the far distance, I saw the inner courtyard and my dad was still there, but this time, my mom was there.

I looked around, still in amazement at how beautiful everything was, how magnificent and bright the colors were, how warm and loving the light, sounds, and smells that filled the air were, and how peaceful and calm it was.

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It was at this time I was treated to a surprise. Our pets that we love are in heaven!

Two horses and three dogs greeted me. The horses were Carol’s and mine; their names are Shakush and Nugget.

Shakush is a pure white Arabian who has the personality of a playful clown. He would get in the arena without Carol on his back and jump and play with her like a playful dog would do, except he was a horse and much larger, but just as gentle. Carol raised and trained Shakush herself and was the only person who rode him. Carol was and still is an excellent horseperson and rider. She glides when riding, and it is a thing of beauty to watch. When Carol and Shakush were both younger, she would show him at horse shows, and they often finished in the top 3. When Carol would ride him, he was always a perfect gentleman, and they would ride for hours in the arena and open fields. While running uphill on a trail he would buck, tossing his head in absolute joy. Regardless of the hill, the gait, or his mood, Carol could always brace herself for a joyful exuberant buck.

Nugget is a buckskin quarter horse and absolutely beautiful. She did not have the same personality as Shakush, but rather, she always acted very regal and gentle. Carol would ride Nugget, and on a rare occasion, she would share Nugget with me for a trail ride. Nugget was raised and trained by Carol just like Shakush. Both Shakush and Nugget were magnificent horses and were truly a gift and blessing from God.

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Three dogs greeted me with our two horses. Two of the dogs that greeted me are named Fudge 1 and Fudge 2 because they are dark brown and sweet, just like Fudge. We named all of our dogs Fudge, so we don’t get their name wrong when a new pet joins our family. There was a third dog that approached me in Heaven with the others, but I did not recognize her. I later learned the dog was named Annie and was Carol’s dog before we met.

Fudge 1 was a rescue dog that was a sweet little dog that would run and play his game of catch me. Of course, it was only when he decided to let us catch him that we were able to. Then he would cuddle up like the sweet dog he was. It was his way of playing.

Fudge 2 was used as a bait dog prior to our rescuing him. He wanted to be sweet and loving but had some prior issues as a result of his abuse before he became part of our family. There were times he would snap or have a flashback. It took a long time and a lot of love before he would trust us. However, he eventually did, and he turned out to be a sweet little boy. He would jump around like a kangaroo. He was unbelievably quick and would spring around like a bouncing ball. He still had flashbacks occasionally, back to when he was abused and treated so meanly. When this happened, it was as if he recognized what happened and was sorry for snapping at us, that was when we got the most loving and cuddling from him. Our best efforts did not erase his abuse on earth. In heaven he’s no longer like that. He is a happy puppy running and playing.

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The third dog's name was Annie. I didn’t know the third dog's name until I was out of the hospital and was telling Carol about going to Heaven and our pets being there. It was when I described the dog I did not recognize that she said it was her dog, Annie. Carol had Annie before I even knew her. Mystery solved.

We currently have a dog, and of course, that is Fudge 3. He is a spitting image of Fudge 2, only sweeter.

So, when I say that our pets are in Heaven, it is not just a hopeful desire; it is an eyewitness account. I saw our horses and dogs, and they were as happy as they could be, waiting for us to come home."
[Near death experiencer, Robert Marshall]

Dead 44 Hours! Jesus Revealed Heaven’s Greatest Mysteries…​

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A powerful Near Death Experience (NDE) testimony: Robert Marshall was clinically dead for 44 hours, met Jesus in Heaven, saw family, pets, mansions, the River of Life, and returned with answers to the greatest mysteries of the afterlife. If you’ve ever searched “what happens when you die?” — watch this.

 

[Ace Nova]

A lighthearted explanation, but is the foundation of our faith........

I truly enjoyed the video - we could use more of that witty and intelligent humor at times. I liked your post because of the delivery of the context.

And what he said could be true for many but it is not always a 'given' - hence the reason I personally prefer to speak about the other 10,000+ messages written within the Bible vs a single message that is unfortunately overused - and considered a "foundation of our faith" by many.

Can it be a "foundation of our faith"? Sure - without question - God can and does save by Grace. The truth is that Grace is SO MUCH MORE than just those few words - it encompasses a person in a myriad of ways - even if the person never says the words, "Saved by Grace" - that's how powerful true Grace is.

Grace manifests itself during a person's life - through faith AND the person's works. And the gentleman was correct - no, a person does not need to know scripture, laws, etc in depth in order to be within Grace - a person must simply believe, understand and put into action the ways the Bible teaches us to live - and if a person is not well versed in scripture - that person can simply pray, meditate and reflect - focused prayer and meditation from the heart can work wonders within a person - giving them something even greater than a single sentence from the Bible will.

I do not want to get into a 'back and forth' about the issue - it's the single most debated topic in Christianity since Martin Luther broke away from the Church - everything that could be said about the topic has already been said at some point. It truly does not need to be an area of debate within Christianity - whatever you believe - let your belief manifest itself so that it can be witnessed - let your belief speak for itself.

 

[Meriweather]

But the point of the video is to show, it's not what you know that gets you in, but is all about WHO you know.


As the guy said at the very end, quoting Bible verse Ephesians 2:8-9

8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Catholic teaching presents salvation as an ongoing process where one is free from sin and its consequences. The starting point is grace from God to repent (turn away from sin) accepting this inspiration from God to walk in this new way of life here in the present. The way is eternal, and it begins now and continues on forever.

Perhaps the question can also be phrased as, Are you being saved? This keeps us in the present tense.

 

[Hafar1014]

Then you are screwed because the statement that "Freedom is the ability to take whichever path you choose to heaven" means that true liberty lies in the freedom of conscience, thought, and religious belief, free from the coercion of state-mandated dogma.

THen you admit no one needs to believe in Jesus its about damn time