For those upset with the SC sending abortion back to the states to decide, let's look at abortion laws in Europe.

[Nostra]

Many on the left claim we are now out of the mainstream with "First world countries" regarding abortion.

I maintain not a single person on the left would like any of these abortion laws in Europe to be the law of the land in the US.

Abortion rules per country[edit]​

This list is incomplete; you can help by adding missing items. (July 2022)

Almost all European countries offer a time limit in which a pregnant woman can choose to have an abortion on request, without a medical indication. After that time, an abortion cannot be performed anymore on request, and a doctor must confirm a medical necessity.

Country	Time limit for abortion on request	Exceptions and remarks
Austria	three months (= 13 weeks)	Later abortions possible in cases of: serious danger for the psychological or physical health of the pregnant woman; probable serious mental or physical disability of the child; the woman got pregnant before the age of 14[19]
Belgium	12 Weeks
Bulgaria	12 Weeks
Croatia	10 Weeks
Cyprus	12 Weeks
Czech Republic	12 Weeks
Denmark	12 Weeks
Estonia	11 Weeks
Finland	12 Weeks
France	14 Weeks	Interruption volontaire de grossesse (IVG) has a 14-week limit. The interruption médicale de grossesse(IMG), for medical reasons, is unlimited. No minimum age in order to request a voluntary abortion (IVG). A pregnant minor needs the consent of her parents (or her legal representative), or she can keep her abortion secret, in which case she needs to be accompanied by an adult person of her choice.[20] After 14 weeks, an IMG can be carried out for: The continued pregnancy poses a serious danger to the woman; or there is a large probability that the child would be born with serious, incurable disease.[21]
Germany	12 Weeks	Abortion is legal only if the pregnant woman has been advised by a doctor at least three days before performing the abortion (Bedenkzeit, time for consideration). A later, medically indicated abortion is possible in cases of: life of the woman is in danger; the physical or psychological health of the pregnant woman could be seriously endangered by not aborting the pregnancy. In such a case, the otherwise mandatory counseling by a doctor is voluntary.[22] Abortions on request during the first 12 weeks were enacted by East Germany in 1972. West Germany followed suit in 1974, but the Federal Constitutional Court ruled the law unconstitutional because it infringed the right to life of the unborn. A new law in 1976 allowed abortions only when the woman was physically or psychologically in danger; if the child would be born with a severe disability; if carrying out the pregnancy would cause severe social problems for the woman (e.g. poverty) or if the pregnancy was the result of sexual violence. There were no abortions on request. Today's rules, granting the right to non-medical abortions on request, were enacted in 1993.
Greece	12 Weeks
Hungary	12 Weeks
Ireland	12 Weeks
Italy	12 Weeks
Latvia	12 Weeks
Liechtenstein	Total ban	Exceptions: if the woman is a victim of sexual violence; if she had been underage during intercourse; if the life of the woman is in serious danger; if carrying out the pregnancy would seriously damage the woman's health[23] In earlier times (pre-2010), the penal law criminalized abortions abroad if the woman had her residence in Liechtenstein, and the abortion did not follow Liechtenstein's regulations.[24]
Lithuania	12 Weeks
Luxembourg	12 Weeks
Malta	Total ban	Doctors are required to attempt to save both the unborn child and the mother in the event of health complications.
Netherlands	24 Weeks
Norway	12 Weeks	18 Weeks by abortion council, 22 weeks if compelling reasons, later if grave risk
Poland	Total ban	Exceptions: Cases of rape, incest, or when the health of the mother would be in danger
Portugal	10 Weeks
Romania	14 Weeks
Slovakia	12 Weeks
Slovenia	10 Weeks
Spain	14 Weeks
Sweden	18 Weeks
Switzerland	12 Weeks	Abortions after 12 weeks possible if a doctor confirms that the abortion prevents any kind of serious harm, physical or psychological. An underage woman does not need to inform anybody of her abortion, and does not need to receive consent from her parents or any other person.[25]
United Kingdom	24 Weeks

Abortion in Europe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[badger2]

Many on the left claim we are now out of the mainstream with "First world countries" regarding abortion.

I maintain not a single person on the left would like any of these abortion laws in Europe to be the law of the land in the US.

Abortion rules per country[edit]​

This list is incomplete; you can help by adding missing items. (July 2022)

Almost all European countries offer a time limit in which a pregnant woman can choose to have an abortion on request, without a medical indication. After that time, an abortion cannot be performed anymore on request, and a doctor must confirm a medical necessity.

Country	Time limit for abortion on request	Exceptions and remarks
Austria	three months (= 13 weeks)	Later abortions possible in cases of: serious danger for the psychological or physical health of the pregnant woman; probable serious mental or physical disability of the child; the woman got pregnant before the age of 14[19]
Belgium	12 Weeks
Bulgaria	12 Weeks
Croatia	10 Weeks
Cyprus	12 Weeks
Czech Republic	12 Weeks
Denmark	12 Weeks
Estonia	11 Weeks
Finland	12 Weeks
France	14 Weeks	Interruption volontaire de grossesse (IVG) has a 14-week limit. The interruption médicale de grossesse(IMG), for medical reasons, is unlimited. No minimum age in order to request a voluntary abortion (IVG). A pregnant minor needs the consent of her parents (or her legal representative), or she can keep her abortion secret, in which case she needs to be accompanied by an adult person of her choice.[20] After 14 weeks, an IMG can be carried out for: The continued pregnancy poses a serious danger to the woman; or there is a large probability that the child would be born with serious, incurable disease.[21]
Germany	12 Weeks	Abortion is legal only if the pregnant woman has been advised by a doctor at least three days before performing the abortion (Bedenkzeit, time for consideration). A later, medically indicated abortion is possible in cases of: life of the woman is in danger; the physical or psychological health of the pregnant woman could be seriously endangered by not aborting the pregnancy. In such a case, the otherwise mandatory counseling by a doctor is voluntary.[22] Abortions on request during the first 12 weeks were enacted by East Germany in 1972. West Germany followed suit in 1974, but the Federal Constitutional Court ruled the law unconstitutional because it infringed the right to life of the unborn. A new law in 1976 allowed abortions only when the woman was physically or psychologically in danger; if the child would be born with a severe disability; if carrying out the pregnancy would cause severe social problems for the woman (e.g. poverty) or if the pregnancy was the result of sexual violence. There were no abortions on request. Today's rules, granting the right to non-medical abortions on request, were enacted in 1993.
Greece	12 Weeks
Hungary	12 Weeks
Ireland	12 Weeks
Italy	12 Weeks
Latvia	12 Weeks
Liechtenstein	Total ban	Exceptions: if the woman is a victim of sexual violence; if she had been underage during intercourse; if the life of the woman is in serious danger; if carrying out the pregnancy would seriously damage the woman's health[23] In earlier times (pre-2010), the penal law criminalized abortions abroad if the woman had her residence in Liechtenstein, and the abortion did not follow Liechtenstein's regulations.[24]
Lithuania	12 Weeks
Luxembourg	12 Weeks
Malta	Total ban	Doctors are required to attempt to save both the unborn child and the mother in the event of health complications.
Netherlands	24 Weeks
Norway	12 Weeks	18 Weeks by abortion council, 22 weeks if compelling reasons, later if grave risk
Poland	Total ban	Exceptions: Cases of rape, incest, or when the health of the mother would be in danger
Portugal	10 Weeks
Romania	14 Weeks
Slovakia	12 Weeks
Slovenia	10 Weeks
Spain	14 Weeks
Sweden	18 Weeks
Switzerland	12 Weeks	Abortions after 12 weeks possible if a doctor confirms that the abortion prevents any kind of serious harm, physical or psychological. An underage woman does not need to inform anybody of her abortion, and does not need to receive consent from her parents or any other person.[25]
United Kingdom	24 Weeks

Abortion in Europe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You shouldn't be mouthing off about Europe when you can't name the US states that followed Connecticut's lead in 1820.

 

[BluesLegend]

Why do Dems FEAR letting the states decide?

 

[Lesh]

They range from a few at 10 weeks to the UK and others at 24 weeks ON DEMAND

nearly all have exceptions

What’s the law in Texas?

6 weeks no exceptions?

 

[Polishprince]

That's quite a difference from the Liberal Ideal of Abortion on demand up to the minute of birth.

In America, a woman in a liberal jurisdiction goes into labor and calls for an uber or an ambulance, they have to ask whether to take her to the hospital or to the Abortion Mill.

 

[Lesh]

That's quite a difference from the Liberal Ideal of Abortion on demand up to the minute of birth.

What an absurd cynical lie

 

[martybegan]

They range from a few at 10 weeks to the UK and others at 24 weeks ON DEMAND

nearly all have exceptions

What’s the law in Texas?

6 weeks no exceptions?

What's the law in NY and CA? up to birth?

The whole issue with Roe is it stopped the normal development of the issue, and gave us a 50 year period of everyone getting more and more radical about it.

 

[Markle]

You shouldn't be mouthing off about Europe when you can't name the US states that followed Connecticut's lead in 1820.

Reminder to you, this is 2022, NOT 1820.

 

[Nostra]

They range from a few at 10 weeks to the UK and others at 24 weeks ON DEMAND

nearly all have exceptions

What’s the law in Texas?

6 weeks no exceptions?

Look again, Simp.

24 weeks was the exception. Vast majority is 10-12 weeks.

Learn to read................or not lie your ass off.

 

[hjmick]

When did we join the EU?


Will we be looking to them to fashion our gun laws too?

 

[Lesh]

What's the law in NY and CA? up to birth?

Nope. And that was a stupid "question"

The whole issue with Roe is it stopped the normal development of the issue, and gave us a 50 year period of everyone getting more and more radical about it.

It made YOU fuckers radical

Hell you folks were blowing up clinics and shooting doctors

 

[Markle]

They range from a few at 10 weeks to the UK and others at 24 weeks ON DEMAND

nearly all have exceptions

What’s the law in Texas?

6 weeks no exceptions?

 

[Nostra]

Nope. And that was a stupid "question"

It made YOU fuckers radical

Hell you folks were blowing up clinics and shooting doctors

Hell you folks were blowing up clinics and shooting doctors

Hey Stupid, there have been 100 abortion center "threats and attacks" since 1976.

You fucktards have perpetrated almost that many attacks on right to life and adoption clinics just since Roe was sent back to the states a few weeks ago.


Using the hashtag #is100enough, Bruns cited at least 100 examples of threats and attacks perpetrated against abortion clinics and providers starting with the first known arson attack in 1976 to now.

40 years of attacks on abortion clinics, mapped

 

[Lesh]

Hey Stupid, there have been 100 abortion center "threats and attacks" since 1976.

I'll check but that's a lot of blown up burnt buildings...and it ignores the assassination's

You fucktards have perpetrated almost that many attacks on right to life and adoption clinics just since Roe was sent back to the states a few weeks ago.

Bullshit

 

[Lesh]

Since 1977 there have been eight murders, 17 attempted murders, 42 bombings, and 186 arsons targeted at abortion clinics and providers across the United States.

There's your radicals

 

[martybegan]

Nope. And that was a stupid "question"

It made YOU fuckers radical

Hell you folks were blowing up clinics and shooting doctors

Actually yes, if you real the law. Now abortions are legal there in the third trimester. And all that is needed is one doctor to say the "health" of the woman is at risk, not life. And health is not defined.

Your side wouldn't budge, since you had Roe at your back. Compromise could have been reached, but your side didn't want it because you had Roe.

 

[Markle]

Nope. And that was a stupid "question"

It made YOU fuckers radical

Hell you folks were blowing up clinics and shooting doctors

So that makes this okay?

What Is Jane's Revenge? Abortion Rights Group Vows 'Night of Rage' Over Roe

The group has taken responsibility for multiple political actions, including violent ones such as the firebombing of a string of anti-abortion crisis pregnancy centers.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Lesh]

So that makes this okay?

What Is Jane's Revenge? Abortion Rights Group Vows 'Night of Rage' Over Roe

The group has taken responsibility for multiple political actions, including violent ones such as the firebombing of a string of anti-abortion crisis pregnancy centers.

www.newsweek.com

Yea...no murders
no attempted murders
no bombings
no blown up buildings

 

[Markle]

Since 1977 there have been eight murders, 17 attempted murders, 42 bombings, and 186 arsons targeted at abortion clinics and providers across the United States.

There's your radicals

Over HALF A CENTURY!

 

[Nostra]

I'll check but that's a lot of blown up burnt buildings...and it ignores the assassination's

Bullshit

Not really when most were just threats. 100 over 45 years, Clown.