If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it may well be a duck. I believe that is what they told everyone. Of far as I know only parts of the laptop have been authenticated, not all of it, so it may well still turn out to be partially Russian disinformation.
Zone1 For the political left, do you care about the Twitter revelations about the FBI and other gov. Orgs?
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You can have whatever beliefs you wish.
I was giving you John Locke's second treatise to back up my POV. This is what our very nation is founded on, this is why I am correcting your ideological subversion, and informing you, that your way of thinking, is, inherently, UN-American, and at odds with the way our society and nation was founded. In the final analysis, YOU ARE WRONG. Sorry you are taking it so badly.
Of course, it is your right to have whatever erroneous thoughts and delusions you like, that is part of the brilliance of this nation.
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And yet? The US establishment claimed Russia did that very thing, during the 2016 election.
US charges Russian social media trolls over election tampering
DOJ indicts Russian nationals and the Internet Research Agency, a group linked to fake news and trolling.
www.cnet.com
Mama said: "Two wrongs don't make a right."And yet? The US establishment claimed Russia did that very thing, during the 2016 election.
US charges Russian social media trolls over election tampering
DOJ indicts Russian nationals and the Internet Research Agency, a group linked to fake news and trolling.
It must be painful for you to be stuck in the 21st century instead of the 18th. As for me, I am happy for the changes in our country and have no wish to go backwards.
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No, I completely understand how folks' liberty is being subverted. You on the other hand?
Actually believe this is about left vs. right. I am well aware how robotics and AI are redefining society and governance in the 21st century. Humans desire for freedom and liberty? that does not change though.
C_Clayton_Jones
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lol
The ‘Twitter files’ are the proverbial nothingburger – like Oakland there’s no there, there.
Of course, that doesn’t keep the dishonest right from contriving ridiculous lies and conspiracy theories.
C_Clayton_Jones
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There is no ‘topic.’
Republicans weren’t ‘targeted’ by anyone or anything.
Nothing was ‘suppressed’ or ‘censored’ by the FBI; the FBI didn’t ‘force’ social media to do anything.
There’s no nefarious conspiracy, nothing was done by ‘the left.’
C_Clayton_Jones
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And the government has every right to alert social media to potential Russian election interference consisting of misinformation and lies – such as the lies about Hunter Biden.
No free speech rights were violated, no one and nothing was silenced.
C_Clayton_Jones
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Conservatives lie as much in the UK as they do the US.
LeftofLeft
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Great question but you are dealing with a mindset that is more concerned about a GOP Congressional Rep elect lying about his ethnic background and education.
C_Clayton_Jones
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Government speech is neither ‘censorship’ nor does it violate free speech.
Government has the right to express its own views and opinions – such as warning social media about Russian election interference via campaigns of misinformation and lies.
“Under the government speech doctrine, the government has its own rights as speaker, immune from free speech challenges. It can assert its own ideas and messages without being subject to First Amendment claims of viewpoint discrimination.”
Government-Speech Doctrine
Under the government speech doctrine, the government has its own rights as speaker that can assert its own messages, immune from challenges of viewpoint discrimination.
mtsu.edu
C_Clayton_Jones
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No you don’t get it – this is a lie, the FBI didn’t ‘interfere’ with anything.
The FBI notifying social media of Russian election interference was perfectly lawful and appropriate, consistent with government speech doctrine.
If a given media platform saw fit to not facilitate Russian interference in US elections by deciding against propagating Russian misinformation and lies, it did so of its own accord independent of the FBI.
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The reason for this is easy to understand. Higher education is not teaching critical skills, but propagandizing students with biases that run counter to American values and traditions. Why would any thinking government wish to fund that?
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Whoever said government can’t speak?Government speech is neither ‘censorship’ nor does it violate free speech.
Government has the right to express its own views and opinions – such as warning social media about Russian election interference via campaigns of misinformation and lies.
“Under the government speech doctrine, the government has its own rights as speaker, immune from free speech challenges. It can assert its own ideas and messages without being subject to First Amendment claims of viewpoint discrimination.”
Government-Speech Doctrine
Under the government speech doctrine, the government has its own rights as speaker that can assert its own messages, immune from challenges of viewpoint discrimination.
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Funny how some on the left have bitched for six years about the totally debunked Russiagate, but have no issues with the FBI directing Twitter and other social media to silence Republicans before an election and opposing views of the covid narrative.
It's PRESIDENT.
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