For the Libs, Why are you voting for Kerry?

[insein]

Im serious. I want to hear what you feel Kerry can do to better this country. No insults. No sarcasm. Just want to know what it is you see in him.

 

[Avatar4321]

Ever get that wierd feeling that this has been asked before?

 

[brneyedgrl80]

Ya, it has been. Here's what I wrote in this other forum:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6866&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

You know, I never did get back to that. I suppose it doesn't matter now. The poll is on the second page for discussion.... :bat:

 

[MtnBiker]

Originally posted by brneyedgrl80
Ya, it has been. Here's what I wrote in this other forum:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6866&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

You know, I never did get back to that. I suppose it doesn't matter now. The poll is on the second page for discussion.... :bat:

More than just that:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3458&highlight=Kerry+vote

http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5722&highlight=Kerry+vote

http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3077&highlight=Kerry+vote

 

[NewGuy]

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[MtnBiker]

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I didn't even see this until just now. Maintance done full accessability restored.

 

[insein]

I appreciate your attempt browneyedgirl. Im disappointed in the so called Loyal Liberals in here. Speaking to St8, NYCFlasher, ACLU, Psycho, et al. Ive not heard any reason from you guys to vote FOR Kerry. All ive heard is why we should vote Against Bush.

So give me your reasons for Kerry.

 

[brneyedgrl80]

Originally posted by insein
I appreciate your attempt browneyedgirl. Im disappointed in the so called Loyal Liberals in here. Speaking to St8, NYCFlasher, ACLU, Psycho, et al. Ive not heard any reason from you guys to vote FOR Kerry. All ive heard is why we should vote Against Bush.

So give me your reasons for Kerry.

I'd like to hear reasons as well. I don't want to be the only one.... So alone....

 

[DKSuddeth]

I'm not. satisfied?

 

[SPIKESMYGOD]

A little off the topic, but I just wanted to bring a little MORE bad news to Kerry.

246,000 jobs created in May.

(Cups his ear & listens carefully)

I'm sorry, was that the sound of snowboard being thrown through a window?

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by SPIKESMYGOD
A little off the topic, but I just wanted to bring a little MORE bad news to Kerry.

246,000 jobs created in May.

(Cups his ear & listens carefully)

I'm sorry, was that the sound of snowboard being thrown through a window?

:rotflmao:

 

[st8_o_mind]

Originally posted by insein
Im serious. I want to hear what you feel Kerry can do to better this country. No insults. No sarcasm. Just want to know what it is you see in him.

I’d have a very hard time voting for anyone who voted for the war in Iraq and Kerry’s current position, which seems to be: I’d do what Bush did, only better, is an abdication of principal and leadership.

In casting his vote for the war Kerry endangered the security of our country by diverting the nations attention to the real and immediate threat posed by Al-Qaeda and international terrorist networks while at the same time multiplying the threat by inflaming anti-American sentiments throughout the world.

I believe his vote for the war was poll driven and politically calculated, displaying a lack of political courage and integrity, as was his later claim that the Bush Administration had misled him about the threat represented by Iraq when there was ample evidence before the vote that the Administration was hyping the threat.

In voting for this mis-adventure in Iraq Kerry endorsed the doctrine of “pre-emptive” war, a disastrous and fundamentally immoral precedent.

Will Kerry be a better President than Bush? Of course. But that is not much of a standard to aspire to. I honestly don’t know who I will vote for, but considering where I live, it does not really matter. I’m not in a battleground state.

 

[Avatar4321]

Originally posted by SPIKESMYGOD
(Cups his ear & listens carefully)

"They're finding out now that no Christmas is coming. They're just waking up, I know just what they'll do. Their mouths will hang open a minute or two, then the Whos down in Whoville will all cry, 'Boo Hoo.' "

Hehe sorry couldnt resist.

 

[st8_o_mind]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
"They're finding out now that no Christmas is coming. They're just waking up, I know just what they'll do. Their mouths will hang open a minute or two, then the Whos down in Whoville will all cry, 'Boo Hoo.' "

Hehe sorry couldnt resist.

 

[insein]

Originally posted by st8_o_mind
I’d have a very hard time voting for anyone who voted for the war in Iraq and Kerry’s current position, which seems to be: I’d do what Bush did, only better, is an abdication of principal and leadership.

In casting his vote for the war Kerry endangered the security of our country by diverting the nations attention to the real and immediate threat posed by Al-Qaeda and international terrorist networks while at the same time multiplying the threat by inflaming anti-American sentiments throughout the world.

I believe his vote for the war was poll driven and politically calculated, displaying a lack of political courage and integrity, as was his later claim that the Bush Administration had misled him about the threat represented by Iraq when there was ample evidence before the vote that the Administration was hyping the threat.

In voting for this mis-adventure in Iraq Kerry endorsed the doctrine of “pre-emptive” war, a disastrous and fundamentally immoral precedent.

Will Kerry be a better President than Bush? Of course. But that is not much of a standard to aspire to. I honestly don’t know who I will vote for, but considering where I live, it does not really matter. I’m not in a battleground state.

Strike 1. Again i asked for what Kerry would do. So how would he "of course" be better than Bush? I didn't ask for your innacurate opinions you have of how Bush failed.

Try again.

 

[Bern80]

Originally posted by insein
Strike 1. Again i asked for what Kerry would do. So how would he "of course" be better than Bush? I didn't ask for your innacurate opinions you have of how Bush failed.

Try again.

Kerry WILL raise your taxes. We know that. Guess that doesn't count as a reason to vote for him. Unless you guise it as "Fiscal Responsibility"

 

[insein]

Thats what i figured. We have but 1 person who can actually explain her stance FOR Kerry. Everyone else is merely a child following the piper's parade.

 

[Merlin1047]

Originally posted by st8_o_mind

In casting his vote for the war Kerry endangered the security of our country by diverting the nations attention to the real and immediate threat posed by Al-Qaeda and international terrorist networks while at the same time multiplying the threat by inflaming anti-American sentiments throughout the world.

In voting for this mis-adventure in Iraq Kerry endorsed the doctrine of “pre-emptive” war, a disastrous and fundamentally immoral precedent.

First item - "anti-American sentiments" exist regardless of our national policy. Constant governmental butt-kissing by means of foreign aid keeps a damper on in sometimes, but it's always there. It exists not so much because of what we do, but because it is a natural, albeit petty, attitude that our success somehow diminishes the opportunities of other countries. When we have the temerity to act without the acquiescence of other nations they become enraged not because of what we have done, but by the fact that our unilateral action exposes their irrelevance and impotence. Tough cookies, they'll get over it as soon as they need us to save their asses - again.

Second item - you claim that "pre-emptive war" to be "a disastrous and fundamentally immoral precedent". Apparently you seem to feel that we should sit meekly until attacked before we act. Hopefully those days are over. Had we attacked Hitler before he attacked us many people on both sides of the conflict would still be alive. Same with the Japanese. Ask the Jews what they think about your opinion that pre-emption is immoral. Had we attacked Al-Qadea pre-emptively and effectively there would have been no attack on September 11 2001. The immoral part of the war on terrorism was when Bubba sat in the White House and refused to act following numerous attacks on our military and on our embassies.

I'm not trying to disparage your idealistic opinions. Frankly, I wish that everyone in this world conducted themselves with honesty and honor. Unfortunately that ain't the way it is. We can no longer afford to sit and wait for the first blow to be struck. Fanatics with fissionable materials can make a city uninhabitable. Terrorists with a bagful of bio-weapons can make our drinking water the source of a horrible and agonizing death for hundreds of thousands.

I don't know about you st8, but I am not inclined to sit in my rocker and wait.

 

[Avatar4321]

Originally posted by Merlin1047
I'm not trying to disparage your idealistic opinions. Frankly, I wish that everyone in this world conducted themselves with honesty and honor. Unfortunately that ain't the way it is. We can no longer afford to sit and wait for the first blow to be struck. Fanatics with fissionable materials can make a city uninhabitable. Terrorists with a bagful of bio-weapons can make our drinking water the source of a horrible and agonizing death for hundreds of thousands.

I don't know about you st8, but I am not inclined to sit in my rocker and wait.

What audacity! How dare you try to put fear in the hearts of the American citizens. Fearmonger!

Seriously though, you are right on the money. I wish everyone in this world was honest and honorable. But we have to remember there are evil people in this world. The left may try discount the concept of evil by pretending everyone who is evil is just mentally disturbed. it cant be there fault but quite frankly some people are just evil.

I do not like bloodshed. If we could have world peace id be all for it! but we cant have world peace as long as there are evil men like these terrorists, or Rogue nations like N Korea, and the former Iraqi regime in existance. The only chance we have at world peace is letting all men and women everywhere live in free societies. And I think the only real chance of free societies surviving is through the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

We have alot of work ahead of us. Lets blindly advocate against the war and watch millions be slaughtered like after the left caused us to pull out of Vietnam. We have a responsibility. I know there are people who want to just isolate ourselves from the rest of the world. We cant. We cant run from our responsibilities and if we try to we will pay for it in more blood than its worth and quite likely our children will pay for it in their blood as well.

Isolationism doesnt work. Neither does the liberal/socialist religion. The only chance we have is to get government out of the lives of the people and let them determine their own destiny.

 

[insein]

Damn people are spineless. they'll hit and run with every lie in the book about Bush but then they can't come up with one thing to support voting FOR Kerry.

Typical.