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And the reason is pretty simple. For Americans, healthcare is no longer at the top of their list as America's most important problem. It's fallen to 9th. The number that approve of the law are now about equal to those that disapprove. When you consider what would be required to transition to a new healthcare system, few in congress including Republicans would be willing to create a replacement.With rise in the number of insured, Republicans have missed the boat in attempts to repeal Obamacare. There would be just too many people lose their insurance. This means any attempt to seriously repeal Obamacare would have to have new healthcare legislation so these people would not loose their coverage plus there would have to be hundreds of bridges between the old and new legislation. Frankly, I don't think congress is up to this.
They were up to 53 attempts to appeal it. They've gone quiet since King v Burwell and Paul Ryan's ascent to Speaker last October. Ryan's first announcement as Speaker was that Congress had a Super-Duper Brand-Spanking-New Plan to Overturn Obamacare and Provide Americans with REAL insurance options.
Nine months later, nada. Did he abort it?
Now...if people could just afford the $5,000 deductible, they could actually USE the insurance....
And the reason is pretty simple. For Americans, healthcare is no longer at the top of their list as America's most important problem. It's fallen to 9th. The number that approve of the law are now about equal to those that disapprove. When you consider what would be required to transition to a new healthcare system, few in congress including Republicans would be willing to create a replacement.With rise in the number of insured, Republicans have missed the boat in attempts to repeal Obamacare. There would be just too many people lose their insurance. This means any attempt to seriously repeal Obamacare would have to have new healthcare legislation so these people would not loose their coverage plus there would have to be hundreds of bridges between the old and new legislation. Frankly, I don't think congress is up to this.
They were up to 53 attempts to appeal it. They've gone quiet since King v Burwell and Paul Ryan's ascent to Speaker last October. Ryan's first announcement as Speaker was that Congress had a Super-Duper Brand-Spanking-New Plan to Overturn Obamacare and Provide Americans with REAL insurance options.
Nine months later, nada. Did he abort it?
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Now...if people could just afford the $5,000 deductible, they could actually USE the insurance....
How did people afford the $5,000, $10,000, etc. deductibles before the PPACA? Or did you not notice such things prior to 2014? Are you another ignoramus who believes every policy with every insurer across the U.S. offers just one plan? Say more about that.
Now...if people could just afford the $5,000 deductible, they could actually USE the insurance....
How did people afford the $5,000, $10,000, etc. deductibles before the PPACA? Or did you not notice such things prior to 2014? Are you another ignoramus who believes every policy with every insurer across the U.S. offers just one plan? Say more about that.
Now...if people could just afford the $5,000 deductible, they could actually USE the insurance....
How did people afford the $5,000, $10,000, etc. deductibles before the PPACA? Or did you not notice such things prior to 2014? Are you another ignoramus who believes every policy with every insurer across the U.S. offers just one plan? Say more about that.
Oh sure there are more options, but what did people actually buy?
So you blame Obama for people's poor decisions.
You think people should be financially responsible when others make bad choices in life they can't afford.
And over seven months after House Speaker Ryan promised to reveal the GOP's super-special replacement, Congressional Republicans are still whining and doing nothing.
ObamaCare propels number of insured Americans above 90%
For the first time ever, fewer than 10% of Americans lack health insurance, according to data released Tuesday by the CDC. And CNBC calls that "a clear sign of ObamaCare's impact." In 2015, only 9.1% of Americans—about 28.6 million people—were uninsured. That's down from 14.2% in 2013 when ObamaCare really started to go into effect, the Hill reports. That drop amounts to another 16.2 million Americans who now have health insurance. "Today's report is further proof that our country has made undeniable and historic strides thanks to the Affordable Care Act." Sylvia Burwell, secretary of health and human services, tells CNBC. "Our country ought to be proud of how far we've come and where we're going."
But regardless of ObamaCare's success in reducing the ranks of the uninsured—the Obama administration estimates more than 20 million Americans have gained insurance since the ACA passed in 2010—the Hill reports that Republicans still plan to use it as a wedge issue in November. Donald Trump and Senate Republicans believe hitting Hillary Clinton over ObamaCare will propel them to victories. “This healthcare law has been devastating to the Democratic Party," John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican, tells the Hill.
The report from the CDC is attached for anyone who's interested:
And over seven months after House Speaker Ryan promised to reveal the GOP's super-special replacement, Congressional Republicans are still whining and doing nothing.
ObamaCare propels number of insured Americans above 90%
For the first time ever, fewer than 10% of Americans lack health insurance, according to data released Tuesday by the CDC. And CNBC calls that "a clear sign of ObamaCare's impact." In 2015, only 9.1% of Americans—about 28.6 million people—were uninsured. That's down from 14.2% in 2013 when ObamaCare really started to go into effect, the Hill reports. That drop amounts to another 16.2 million Americans who now have health insurance. "Today's report is further proof that our country has made undeniable and historic strides thanks to the Affordable Care Act." Sylvia Burwell, secretary of health and human services, tells CNBC. "Our country ought to be proud of how far we've come and where we're going."
But regardless of ObamaCare's success in reducing the ranks of the uninsured—the Obama administration estimates more than 20 million Americans have gained insurance since the ACA passed in 2010—the Hill reports that Republicans still plan to use it as a wedge issue in November. Donald Trump and Senate Republicans believe hitting Hillary Clinton over ObamaCare will propel them to victories. “This healthcare law has been devastating to the Democratic Party," John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican, tells the Hill.
The report from the CDC is attached for anyone who's interested:
That is if you consider the Bronze program insurance!!!
Obamacare Bronze Health Insurance Plans
Premiums for a single 30 yr old is $257 a month
Deductible: $6859 individuals and $13700 family. For those that don't know, you have to pay the full deductible before your insurer covers anything.
60-40: The. After the deductible is paid, your insurer will only cover 60%.
Co-pay: $40 per office visit
This isn't insurance. This is a cash cow for the insurance industry and a way to avoid a no insurance fee.
Silver isn't much better
Obamacare Silver Health Insurance Plans
Premium: $312 for a single 30 individual per month
Deductible: $3177 per family and $6480 family
70/30: You still pay 30% of costs after the deductible
Co-pay: $30
If you think either of these are insurance then get your head checked!
Marketplace Enrollment by Metal Level
Total: 11mil
Silver: 7.7 mil
Bronze: 2.4 mil
Catastrophic: 0.6 mil
97% of enrolled fall here
And over seven months after House Speaker Ryan promised to reveal the GOP's super-special replacement, Congressional Republicans are still whining and doing nothing.
ObamaCare propels number of insured Americans above 90%
For the first time ever, fewer than 10% of Americans lack health insurance, according to data released Tuesday by the CDC. And CNBC calls that "a clear sign of ObamaCare's impact." In 2015, only 9.1% of Americans—about 28.6 million people—were uninsured. That's down from 14.2% in 2013 when ObamaCare really started to go into effect, the Hill reports. That drop amounts to another 16.2 million Americans who now have health insurance. "Today's report is further proof that our country has made undeniable and historic strides thanks to the Affordable Care Act." Sylvia Burwell, secretary of health and human services, tells CNBC. "Our country ought to be proud of how far we've come and where we're going."
But regardless of ObamaCare's success in reducing the ranks of the uninsured—the Obama administration estimates more than 20 million Americans have gained insurance since the ACA passed in 2010—the Hill reports that Republicans still plan to use it as a wedge issue in November. Donald Trump and Senate Republicans believe hitting Hillary Clinton over ObamaCare will propel them to victories. “This healthcare law has been devastating to the Democratic Party," John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican, tells the Hill.
The report from the CDC is attached for anyone who's interested:
That is if you consider the Bronze program insurance!!!
Obamacare Bronze Health Insurance Plans
Premiums for a single 30 yr old is $257 a month
Deductible: $6859 individuals and $13700 family. For those that don't know, you have to pay the full deductible before your insurer covers anything.
60-40: The. After the deductible is paid, your insurer will only cover 60%.
Co-pay: $40 per office visit
This isn't insurance. This is a cash cow for the insurance industry and a way to avoid a no insurance fee.
Silver isn't much better
Obamacare Silver Health Insurance Plans
Premium: $312 for a single 30 individual per month
Deductible: $3177 per family and $6480 family
70/30: You still pay 30% of costs after the deductible
Co-pay: $30
If you think either of these are insurance then get your head checked!
Marketplace Enrollment by Metal Level
Total: 11mil
Silver: 7.7 mil
Bronze: 2.4 mil
Catastrophic: 0.6 mil
97% of enrolled fall here
And over seven months after House Speaker Ryan promised to reveal the GOP's super-special replacement, Congressional Republicans are still whining and doing nothing.
ObamaCare propels number of insured Americans above 90%
For the first time ever, fewer than 10% of Americans lack health insurance, according to data released Tuesday by the CDC. And CNBC calls that "a clear sign of ObamaCare's impact." In 2015, only 9.1% of Americans—about 28.6 million people—were uninsured. That's down from 14.2% in 2013 when ObamaCare really started to go into effect, the Hill reports. That drop amounts to another 16.2 million Americans who now have health insurance. "Today's report is further proof that our country has made undeniable and historic strides thanks to the Affordable Care Act." Sylvia Burwell, secretary of health and human services, tells CNBC. "Our country ought to be proud of how far we've come and where we're going."
But regardless of ObamaCare's success in reducing the ranks of the uninsured—the Obama administration estimates more than 20 million Americans have gained insurance since the ACA passed in 2010—the Hill reports that Republicans still plan to use it as a wedge issue in November. Donald Trump and Senate Republicans believe hitting Hillary Clinton over ObamaCare will propel them to victories. “This healthcare law has been devastating to the Democratic Party," John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican, tells the Hill.
The report from the CDC is attached for anyone who's interested:
That is if you consider the Bronze program insurance!!!
Obamacare Bronze Health Insurance Plans
Premiums for a single 30 yr old is $257 a month
Deductible: $6859 individuals and $13700 family. For those that don't know, you have to pay the full deductible before your insurer covers anything.
60-40: The. After the deductible is paid, your insurer will only cover 60%.
Co-pay: $40 per office visit
This isn't insurance. This is a cash cow for the insurance industry and a way to avoid a no insurance fee.
Silver isn't much better
Obamacare Silver Health Insurance Plans
Premium: $312 for a single 30 individual per month
Deductible: $3177 per family and $6480 family
70/30: You still pay 30% of costs after the deductible
Co-pay: $30
If you think either of these are insurance then get your head checked!
Marketplace Enrollment by Metal Level
Total: 11mil
Silver: 7.7 mil
Bronze: 2.4 mil
Catastrophic: 0.6 mil
97% of enrolled fall here
Well, at least you recognize that there are different plans. Someone here is convinced that there's only one bronze plan and everyone has to take it.
The fault, dear Brutus, rests with those governors who refused the Medicare expansion. Expect that to change.
Also, are those premiums before or after the subsidies?
And over seven months after House Speaker Ryan promised to reveal the GOP's super-special replacement, Congressional Republicans are still whining and doing nothing.
ObamaCare propels number of insured Americans above 90%
For the first time ever, fewer than 10% of Americans lack health insurance, according to data released Tuesday by the CDC. And CNBC calls that "a clear sign of ObamaCare's impact." In 2015, only 9.1% of Americans—about 28.6 million people—were uninsured. That's down from 14.2% in 2013 when ObamaCare really started to go into effect, the Hill reports. That drop amounts to another 16.2 million Americans who now have health insurance. "Today's report is further proof that our country has made undeniable and historic strides thanks to the Affordable Care Act." Sylvia Burwell, secretary of health and human services, tells CNBC. "Our country ought to be proud of how far we've come and where we're going."
But regardless of ObamaCare's success in reducing the ranks of the uninsured—the Obama administration estimates more than 20 million Americans have gained insurance since the ACA passed in 2010—the Hill reports that Republicans still plan to use it as a wedge issue in November. Donald Trump and Senate Republicans believe hitting Hillary Clinton over ObamaCare will propel them to victories. “This healthcare law has been devastating to the Democratic Party," John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican, tells the Hill.
The report from the CDC is attached for anyone who's interested:
That is if you consider the Bronze program insurance!!!
Obamacare Bronze Health Insurance Plans
Premiums for a single 30 yr old is $257 a month
Deductible: $6859 individuals and $13700 family. For those that don't know, you have to pay the full deductible before your insurer covers anything.
60-40: The. After the deductible is paid, your insurer will only cover 60%.
Co-pay: $40 per office visit
This isn't insurance. This is a cash cow for the insurance industry and a way to avoid a no insurance fee.
Silver isn't much better
Obamacare Silver Health Insurance Plans
Premium: $312 for a single 30 individual per month
Deductible: $3177 per family and $6480 family
70/30: You still pay 30% of costs after the deductible
Co-pay: $30
If you think either of these are insurance then get your head checked!
Marketplace Enrollment by Metal Level
Total: 11mil
Silver: 7.7 mil
Bronze: 2.4 mil
Catastrophic: 0.6 mil
97% of enrolled fall here
Well, at least you recognize that there are different plans. Someone here is convinced that there's only one bronze plan and everyone has to take it.
The fault, dear Brutus, rests with those governors who refused the Medicare expansion. Expect that to change.
Also, are those premiums before or after the subsidies?
Not sure, but I assume before. But really the killer is the deductible and 60/40 or 70/30. Heck I hate my $1500 group plan deductible and 80/20 co-pay and I make $112,500 a year with a possible 7.5% bonus.
I just don't see how giving people unaffordable insurance helps!
You seem to be neglecting the amount of government subsidy available based on income. I ran an estimate on this plan for a 30 yr old with a $30,000 income. The premium after subsidies is $172/mo. Even considering the low intintial coverage this is not a lot to pay for catastrophic health insurance.And over seven months after House Speaker Ryan promised to reveal the GOP's super-special replacement, Congressional Republicans are still whining and doing nothing.
ObamaCare propels number of insured Americans above 90%
For the first time ever, fewer than 10% of Americans lack health insurance, according to data released Tuesday by the CDC. And CNBC calls that "a clear sign of ObamaCare's impact." In 2015, only 9.1% of Americans—about 28.6 million people—were uninsured. That's down from 14.2% in 2013 when ObamaCare really started to go into effect, the Hill reports. That drop amounts to another 16.2 million Americans who now have health insurance. "Today's report is further proof that our country has made undeniable and historic strides thanks to the Affordable Care Act." Sylvia Burwell, secretary of health and human services, tells CNBC. "Our country ought to be proud of how far we've come and where we're going."
But regardless of ObamaCare's success in reducing the ranks of the uninsured—the Obama administration estimates more than 20 million Americans have gained insurance since the ACA passed in 2010—the Hill reports that Republicans still plan to use it as a wedge issue in November. Donald Trump and Senate Republicans believe hitting Hillary Clinton over ObamaCare will propel them to victories. “This healthcare law has been devastating to the Democratic Party," John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican, tells the Hill.
The report from the CDC is attached for anyone who's interested:
That is if you consider the Bronze program insurance!!!
Obamacare Bronze Health Insurance Plans
Premiums for a single 30 yr old is $257 a month
Deductible: $6859 individuals and $13700 family. For those that don't know, you have to pay the full deductible before your insurer covers anything.
60-40: The. After the deductible is paid, your insurer will only cover 60%.
Co-pay: $40 per office visit
This isn't insurance. This is a cash cow for the insurance industry and a way to avoid a no insurance fee.
Silver isn't much better
Obamacare Silver Health Insurance Plans
Premium: $312 for a single 30 individual per month
Deductible: $3177 per family and $6480 family
70/30: You still pay 30% of costs after the deductible
Co-pay: $30
If you think either of these are insurance then get your head checked!
Marketplace Enrollment by Metal Level
Total: 11mil
Silver: 7.7 mil
Bronze: 2.4 mil
Catastrophic: 0.6 mil
97% of enrolled fall here
Have you compared a catastrophic plan with say a $6,000 individual, $12,000 family deductible plan. In most states the insurance company pays all expenses after you meet your deductible. I saw such a plan listed at $704/mo for a family of 4 in the state of Florida. Many employers are offering these plans and they have really low premiums.And over seven months after House Speaker Ryan promised to reveal the GOP's super-special replacement, Congressional Republicans are still whining and doing nothing.
ObamaCare propels number of insured Americans above 90%
For the first time ever, fewer than 10% of Americans lack health insurance, according to data released Tuesday by the CDC. And CNBC calls that "a clear sign of ObamaCare's impact." In 2015, only 9.1% of Americans—about 28.6 million people—were uninsured. That's down from 14.2% in 2013 when ObamaCare really started to go into effect, the Hill reports. That drop amounts to another 16.2 million Americans who now have health insurance. "Today's report is further proof that our country has made undeniable and historic strides thanks to the Affordable Care Act." Sylvia Burwell, secretary of health and human services, tells CNBC. "Our country ought to be proud of how far we've come and where we're going."
But regardless of ObamaCare's success in reducing the ranks of the uninsured—the Obama administration estimates more than 20 million Americans have gained insurance since the ACA passed in 2010—the Hill reports that Republicans still plan to use it as a wedge issue in November. Donald Trump and Senate Republicans believe hitting Hillary Clinton over ObamaCare will propel them to victories. “This healthcare law has been devastating to the Democratic Party," John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican, tells the Hill.
The report from the CDC is attached for anyone who's interested:
That is if you consider the Bronze program insurance!!!
Obamacare Bronze Health Insurance Plans
Premiums for a single 30 yr old is $257 a month
Deductible: $6859 individuals and $13700 family. For those that don't know, you have to pay the full deductible before your insurer covers anything.
60-40: The. After the deductible is paid, your insurer will only cover 60%.
Co-pay: $40 per office visit
This isn't insurance. This is a cash cow for the insurance industry and a way to avoid a no insurance fee.
Silver isn't much better
Obamacare Silver Health Insurance Plans
Premium: $312 for a single 30 individual per month
Deductible: $3177 per family and $6480 family
70/30: You still pay 30% of costs after the deductible
Co-pay: $30
If you think either of these are insurance then get your head checked!
Marketplace Enrollment by Metal Level
Total: 11mil
Silver: 7.7 mil
Bronze: 2.4 mil
Catastrophic: 0.6 mil
97% of enrolled fall here
Well, at least you recognize that there are different plans. Someone here is convinced that there's only one bronze plan and everyone has to take it.
The fault, dear Brutus, rests with those governors who refused the Medicare expansion. Expect that to change.
Also, are those premiums before or after the subsidies?
Not sure, but I assume before. But really the killer is the deductible and 60/40 or 70/30. Heck I hate my $1500 group plan deductible and 80/20 co-pay and I make $112,500 a year with a possible 7.5% bonus.
I just don't see how giving people unaffordable insurance helps!
Have you compared a catastrophic plan with say a $6,000 individual, $12,000 family deductible plan. In most states the insurance company pays all expenses after you meet your deductible. I saw such a plan listed at $704/mo for a family of 4 in the state of Florida. Many employers are offering these plans and they have really low premiums.And over seven months after House Speaker Ryan promised to reveal the GOP's super-special replacement, Congressional Republicans are still whining and doing nothing.
ObamaCare propels number of insured Americans above 90%
For the first time ever, fewer than 10% of Americans lack health insurance, according to data released Tuesday by the CDC. And CNBC calls that "a clear sign of ObamaCare's impact." In 2015, only 9.1% of Americans—about 28.6 million people—were uninsured. That's down from 14.2% in 2013 when ObamaCare really started to go into effect, the Hill reports. That drop amounts to another 16.2 million Americans who now have health insurance. "Today's report is further proof that our country has made undeniable and historic strides thanks to the Affordable Care Act." Sylvia Burwell, secretary of health and human services, tells CNBC. "Our country ought to be proud of how far we've come and where we're going."
But regardless of ObamaCare's success in reducing the ranks of the uninsured—the Obama administration estimates more than 20 million Americans have gained insurance since the ACA passed in 2010—the Hill reports that Republicans still plan to use it as a wedge issue in November. Donald Trump and Senate Republicans believe hitting Hillary Clinton over ObamaCare will propel them to victories. “This healthcare law has been devastating to the Democratic Party," John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican, tells the Hill.
The report from the CDC is attached for anyone who's interested:
That is if you consider the Bronze program insurance!!!
Obamacare Bronze Health Insurance Plans
Premiums for a single 30 yr old is $257 a month
Deductible: $6859 individuals and $13700 family. For those that don't know, you have to pay the full deductible before your insurer covers anything.
60-40: The. After the deductible is paid, your insurer will only cover 60%.
Co-pay: $40 per office visit
This isn't insurance. This is a cash cow for the insurance industry and a way to avoid a no insurance fee.
Silver isn't much better
Obamacare Silver Health Insurance Plans
Premium: $312 for a single 30 individual per month
Deductible: $3177 per family and $6480 family
70/30: You still pay 30% of costs after the deductible
Co-pay: $30
If you think either of these are insurance then get your head checked!
Marketplace Enrollment by Metal Level
Total: 11mil
Silver: 7.7 mil
Bronze: 2.4 mil
Catastrophic: 0.6 mil
97% of enrolled fall here
Well, at least you recognize that there are different plans. Someone here is convinced that there's only one bronze plan and everyone has to take it.
The fault, dear Brutus, rests with those governors who refused the Medicare expansion. Expect that to change.
Also, are those premiums before or after the subsidies?
Not sure, but I assume before. But really the killer is the deductible and 60/40 or 70/30. Heck I hate my $1500 group plan deductible and 80/20 co-pay and I make $112,500 a year with a possible 7.5% bonus.
I just don't see how giving people unaffordable insurance helps!
Also, consider that your expenses with insurance is lower during the deductible phase compared to no insurance because most of the insurance companies have negotiated rates with providers. So instead of paying $120 for a doctor's visit during the deductible phase, you would be paying the insurance company's negotiated rate, say $80. Also there is savings on your prescriptions. In addition, doctors will often back off on some things if you tell them you have a high deductible plan and you're having to pay out of pocket.
Generally catastrophic plans can save you a lot of money provided you can budget for the deductible period. After, all this is what insurance was designed to do, pay for what you can't pay.
The bronze programs are essentially catastrophic plans and silver programs are essential catastrophic lite!
Preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, and arbitrary refusals are not little things. They add significantly to the cost of insurance and guarantee that when you or your family are seriously ill with huge medical costs, your medical bills will be paid. In addition there are many other benefits other than what you listed that did not exist in all policies and in all areas prior to Obamacare.The bronze programs are essentially catastrophic plans and silver programs are essential catastrophic lite!
What's covered in those plans is not essentially different from what it was prior to the PPACA...except for the little things like denial for preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, arbitrary refusal to cover costly surgeries after those surgeries were performed.
The conspicuous difference to the consumer is in the considerably lower monthly premiums. But people who bought the propaganda and refused to go to the online exchanges got to pay full premiums and they're the ones who are hollering.
They and the "I don't need no stinkin' Obozocare" morons yawping in this forum.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, and arbitrary refusals are not little things. They add significantly to the cost of insurance and guarantee that when you or your family are seriously ill with huge medical costs, your medical bills will be paid. In addition there are many other benefits other than what you listed that did not exist in all policies and in all areas prior to Obamacare.The bronze programs are essentially catastrophic plans and silver programs are essential catastrophic lite!
What's covered in those plans is not essentially different from what it was prior to the PPACA...except for the little things like denial for preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, arbitrary refusal to cover costly surgeries after those surgeries were performed.
The conspicuous difference to the consumer is in the considerably lower monthly premiums. But people who bought the propaganda and refused to go to the online exchanges got to pay full premiums and they're the ones who are hollering.
They and the "I don't need no stinkin' Obozocare" morons yawping in this forum.
Stupid is as stupid does.
and ad hominem instead of adult discussion is getting on my nerves.
Preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, and arbitrary refusals are not little things. They add significantly to the cost of insurance and guarantee that when you or your family are seriously ill with huge medical costs, your medical bills will be paid. In addition there are many other benefits other than what you listed that did not exist in all policies and in all areas prior to Obamacare.The bronze programs are essentially catastrophic plans and silver programs are essential catastrophic lite!
What's covered in those plans is not essentially different from what it was prior to the PPACA...except for the little things like denial for preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, arbitrary refusal to cover costly surgeries after those surgeries were performed.
The conspicuous difference to the consumer is in the considerably lower monthly premiums. But people who bought the propaganda and refused to go to the online exchanges got to pay full premiums and they're the ones who are hollering.
They and the "I don't need no stinkin' Obozocare" morons yawping in this forum.
Stupid is as stupid does.
I was being sarcastic. Adults know how serious those things are. Every one of us knows someone who's been denied or capped or abandoned to massive loans if not bankruptcy for health reasons, as well as people who've had to stop life-saving treatment because the insurer arbitrarily decided that six chemo treatments were sufficient despite the doctors' insistence on 12.
But the idiot brigade in this forum has never faced this and doesn't care and the constant
Hey, WestWall, is that enough content for you?
