For Israel: No Vacation From Terror

[NATO AIR]

I hope Mossad goes after Al-Queda more forcefully now.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6214518/site/newsweek/

Israel: No Vacation From Terror
A long stream of incomplete intel forewarned of attacks on Israelis in the Sinai. Now Mossad will aim to hit backNewsweekOct. 18 issue - The first warnings filtered into the offices of Israel's Shabak security service last January. Terrorists were plotting to carry out an attack on Israeli tourists in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, where luxury hotels and bungalow resorts overlook the Red Sea. But the details were scant and, as often occurs with intelligence, only partly accurate. The reports referred to a shooting attack that would be staged by Palestinians with weapons smuggled from Gaza into Egypt. It wasn't until September, eight months later, that the information veered in a different direction. New intel pointed to an upcoming attack by "international jihad"—the term Israeli intelligence uses for Al Qaeda and related Islamic groups—according to a source familiar with the reports.

Israeli security officials now believe that Al Qaeda, using Egyptian operatives, probably carried out the twin attacks at the Taba Hilton and a second resort last week, killing 33 (with at least a dozen people still missing). If they're right, one likely result will be a more aggressive Israeli campaign against Osama bin Laden's network. Already, Mossad considers tracking the group one of its two main objectives (preventing Iran from getting a nuclear bomb is the other). "To protect Israelis, we have to be active in many places around the world," one senior official said. "We have to be very alert and very patient."

So do the perpetrators. Their preparation—gathering intelligence, smuggling up to 2,200 pounds of explosives and recruiting bombers—probably lasted a year or more, according to the same source. Though Shabak issued a warning Sept. 9 urging citizens to avoid Egypt, nearly 20,000 Israelis had been vacationing in Sinai the day of the blast. Now officials are wondering if they should have closed the Taba border altogether. "The terrorists would probably have just waited a few weeks and then carried out the attacks," says Boaz Ganor, who heads the International Counter-Terrorism center in Herzliya. "In fact, I wouldn't exclude the possibility that when Israel issued the warning, the terrorists may have waited."

Though most of the fatalities appeared to be Israeli, the wounded included Egyptian hotel workers and at least one American. Charles Collins, an 11-year-old from Providence, R.I., was alone in his ninth-floor room at the hotel when the explosion blew off a balcony and an outer wall. Showered with debris, Collins forced his way past a wedged door and be-gan descending the nine flights, searching for his mother. "When I reached the third floor, there was smoke and you could barely see anything," he recalled a day later. "I heard my mom's screams and I just followed." Finding the men behind the attack will be even harder.

—Dan Ephron in Eilat, with Joanna Chen in Jerusalem and Gameela Ismail in Taba

© 2004 Newsweek, Inc

 

[ajwps]

I hope Mossad goes after Al-Queda more forcefully now.

The Israeli Moussad is just one of the several covert secret services that are responsible for eliminating those who perpetrate these attacks. Until Israel says, enough is enough, those who plan and have a part in these attacks are targeted for elimination. Even when they live in downtown Damascus, Syria.

Israel like America both have a hard time morally doing what it takes to end radical Islamic terrorism in the world. Both fear losing the 'love' of the nations of the world by doing what is right and correct in a war. These two countries need only obtain 'respect' of the nations and forget about being 'loved.'

Like the allies did in WW2 by eliminating entire cities and their populations like in Nagasaki, Dresden, Berlin, Hiroshima and others Israel and the US must totally obliterate cities of men, women and children which gives the remainder of the terrorist groups a reason to ponder their fate in paradise.

This strategy worked for Alexander the Great and many other historical military geniuses and eventually needed to save humanity from total destruction by those who envy and hate freedom and humanity.

 

[dilloduck]

The Israeli Moussad is just one of the several covert secret services that are responsible for eliminating those who perpetrate these attacks. Until Israel says, enough is enough, those who plan and have a part in these attacks are targeted for elimination. Even when they live in downtown Damascus, Syria.

Israel like America both have a hard time morally doing what it takes to end radical Islamic terrorism in the world. Both fear losing the 'love' of the nations of the world by doing what is right and correct in a war. These two countries need only obtain 'respect' of the nations and forget about being 'loved.'

Like the allies did in WW2 by eliminating entire cities and their populations like in Nagasaki, Dresden, Berlin, Hiroshima and others Israel and the US must totally obliterate cities of men, women and children which gives the remainder of the terrorist groups a reason to ponder their fate in paradise.

This strategy worked for Alexander the Great and many other historical military geniuses and eventually needed to save humanity from total destruction by those who envy and hate freedom and humanity.

Both countries are run by politicians elected by the people, not generals. Whether your idea may be the ulitimate solution or not is moot due to current day politics. Gen. McArthur wasn't to happy about this shift in power either yet it is the current reality. I don't think America is so concerned about being "loved" by all countries as evidenced by our invasion of Iraq yet we ARE concerned about killing as few innocents as possible .

 

[NATO AIR]

we are a benevolent power the majority of the time. we highly value human rights and justice.

the terrorists and their state sponsors like syria and sudan do not.

 

[White knight]

Thats the diffrence between them and us. we do not purposfully try and harm and target the innocence civillians, we value life. They do not, they don't care if their own innocent people die in their attacks.

 

[ajwps]

Both countries are run by politicians elected by the people, not generals. Whether your idea may be the ulitimate solution or not is moot due to current day politics. Gen. McArthur wasn't to happy about this shift in power either yet it is the current reality. I don't think America is so concerned about being "loved" by all countries as evidenced by our invasion of Iraq yet we ARE concerned about killing as few innocents as possible .

Hitler was first a politician but also tried to be the mystic military decision maker. George Bush and the US State Department currently make the rules by which American soldiers must fight and die.

Current day politicians may think that they can tell the generals not to do what is necessary as in all the wars in recorded history, but eventually the terrorists will do the unthinkable and will cause the citizenery to awake and take the power away from the politicians and return it to the military.

General McArthur did not want Truman to drop the bombs over Japan but like a manical egocentric warrior had the idea of attacking Japan with the resultant loss of millions of American and Japanese lives.

The current world war waged as we speak cannot be won by playing the political game of avoiding collateral damage to innocents. White Knight thinks that somehow we are different from THEM. He too has forgotten all the world wars that have preceded this one. WE bombed whole populations (men, women and children) into oblivion and we were like them.

Inevitably this is a real war, waged on real battlefields with real human being's existence in the balance. White Knight thinks that we are civilized and THEY are animals. The reality is that you must fight real wars with all the abominations and beastiality that entails.

Actually civilization is not ready for total peace on earth YET....