For God so loved the world....

[sealybobo]

Even tho there is no hell...if there were, it would be the interesting, hopping place to go.

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
- Mark Twain

I think you have it backwards.


Jesus hung around with sinners and prostitutes and all sorts of really bad characters and said they were entering the kingdom of heaven before the pharisees who were sexually repressed hypocrites mutilating infant penises and obsessing over whats for dinner, already in hell.


Now do you really want to goto hell for the company?

pick a religion, any religion. You will descend onto the netherworld instantly. Then you will find yourself in a tomb, eating Jesus, wearing magic underwear, meditating on nothingness, or curling your peyos till kingdom come.

They are in heaven

 

[edthecynic]

Even tho there is no hell...if there were, it would be the interesting, hopping place to go.

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
- Mark Twain

I think you have it backwards.


Jesus hung around with sinners and prostitutes and all sorts of really bad characters and said they were entering the kingdom of heaven before the pharisees who were sexually repressed hypocrites mutilating infant penises and obsessing over whats for dinner, in other words, already in hell.


Now do you really want to go to hell for the company?

pick a religion, any religion. You will descend onto the netherworld instantly. Then you will find yourself in a tomb, eating Jesus, wearing magic underwear, meditating on nothingness, or curling your peyos till kingdom come.

It was a JOKE pinhead! You freaks have NO sense of humor!

 

[Weatherman2020]

Darling, I want Scripture that states who isn’t a Christian

1 John 3:4-10

To commit sin is to break Gods law; sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man who therefore dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled. It is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the divine seed remains in him; he cannot be a sinner because he is Gods child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil.

No one who does not do what is right is Gods child.

No one who does not do what is right is Gods child

Are you confident, you are a child of God?

What Bible are you quoting Scripture from?


Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness
and sin is lawlessness

And you know that He was
manifested to take away our sins,
and in Him there is no sin.

Whoever abides in Him does not sin.
Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

Little children, let no one deceive you.
He who practices righteousness is righteous,
just as He is righteous

He who sins is of the devil,
for the devil has sinned from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested,
that He might destroy the works of the devil.

Whoever has been born of God does not sin,
for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin,
because he has been born of God.

In this the children of God
and the children of the devil are manifest:
Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God,
nor is he who does not love his brother

For this is the message that you heard from the beginning,
that we should love one another.

1 John 3:4-11

I always do exactly as God commands. You will never see me worshipping a trinity or a human being, eating Jesus, or celebrating his death.

“Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image”

So was God psychotic or is that a sign of the Trinity?

It’s your Torah, you tell us which it is.

Hebrew says the same thing, so don’t bother with that spin.

Man was created in the image and likeness of God, male and female he created them.

God has no visible shape, material form, gender, or equal, so the image and likeness of God is not about physical appearance, material form, gender, or quantity...

Let us make man in our image is not a reference to any trinity. It is a reference to the host of heaven, living beings and creatures from another sphere of intelligent life that have been cultivating intelligence on this planet for millions of years..

Let us make man in our image is not a reference to any trinity. It is a reference to the host of heaven, living beings and creatures from another sphere of intelligent life that have been cultivating intelligence on this planet for millions of years..

Sorry, I thought you were Jewish and not Hindu.

 

[Pogo]

Man was created in the image and likeness of God, male and female he created them.

--- which continuously presents the question: If "God" is a "he" who's the female that makes "him" a he?

Oops.

like I said the image and likeness of God is not about gender numbskull.

------- then why assign a specific gender to it? Least of all a gender that cannot possibly give birth?

See, these little words are always there for a reason, and I always look under the hood.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

If atheism isnt a religion, why does the Religion forum attract the God Haters like flies?

If Atheism IS a religion, why don't Atheists get the same special tax breaks other religions get???

They get special treatment and total tax exemption

Atheists do NOT!

Yes they do. The unofficial state religion of the United States is secular humanism. All of its precepts are taught in the public schools; its principles are the only conversations allowed in public. Everyone else is expected to ask permission to practice their beliefs and are taxed for what they believe. Denying it won't change the bottom line.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

like I said the image and likeness of God is not about gender

How do you know?

 

[hobelim]

like I said the image and likeness of God is not about gender

How do you know?

because within the established constraints in scripture God is incorporeal, one being without equal and without visible shape or material form, and is not a reproductive creature which precludes the possibility of gender, male or female.

it is the combined attributes of a bonding pair that most accurately reflects the essence of God.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

like I said the image and likeness of God is not about gender

How do you know?

because within the established constraints in scripture God is incorporeal, one being without equal and without visible shape or material form, and is not a reproductive creature which precludes the possibility of gender, male or female.

it is the combined attributes of a bonding pair that most accurately reflects the essence of God.

Yes,in the same religious text, god does appear in a body, and its always male, and the malepronoun is used for him. Always.

 

[hobelim]

like I said the image and likeness of God is not about gender

How do you know?

because within the established constraints in scripture God is incorporeal, one being without equal and without visible shape or material form, and is not a reproductive creature which precludes the possibility of gender, male or female.

it is the combined attributes of a bonding pair that most accurately reflects the essence of God.

Yes,in the same religious text, god does appear in a body, and its always male, and the malepronoun is used for him. Always.

You are mistaken. In prophetic visions God may appear to be male and have a body but that is not the same thing as being male or having a physical body anymore than the characters in your dreams have physical bodies.

When God communicates something to a prophet the language is multidimensional using figurative language with images of people and situations and sounds and feelings that engage all the senses and the subject of the communication is not necessarily directly connected to the literal meaning of the words or images used.

 

[Pogo]

like I said the image and likeness of God is not about gender

How do you know?

because within the established constraints in scripture God is incorporeal, one being without equal and without visible shape or material form, and is not a reproductive creature which precludes the possibility of gender, male or female.

it is the combined attributes of a bonding pair that most accurately reflects the essence of God.

Then WHY is the reference always "he" and never "she" or "it"?

Why indeed.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

and is not a reproductive creature

God is in the very process of reproducing Himself thru Man. He has many BEGOTTEN children who compose the Church. They/we will be BORN AGAIN at His return

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are mistaken.

No, I am spot on. There is nothing about"prophetic vision". It says god appeared and spoke face to face.

 

[hobelim]

You are mistaken.

No, I am spot on. There is nothing about"prophetic vision". It says god appeared and spoke face to face.

"Face to face" is a figure of speech.

 

[G.T.]

like I said the image and likeness of God is not about gender

How do you know?

because within the established constraints in scripture God is incorporeal, one being without equal and without visible shape or material form, and is not a reproductive creature which precludes the possibility of gender, male or female.

it is the combined attributes of a bonding pair that most accurately reflects the essence of God.

Yes,in the same religious text, god does appear in a body, and its always male, and the malepronoun is used for him. Always.

You are mistaken. In prophetic visions God may appear to be male and have a body but that is not the same thing as being male or having a physical body anymore than the characters in your dreams have physical bodies.

When God communicates something to a prophet the language is multidimensional using figurative language with images of people and situations and sounds and feelings that engage all the senses and the subject of the communication is not necessarily directly connected to the literal meaning of the words or images used.

multidimensional figurative language!

but eating christ crackers is silly

 

[G.T.]

like I said the image and likeness of God is not about gender

How do you know?

because within the established constraints in scripture God is incorporeal, one being without equal and without visible shape or material form, and is not a reproductive creature which precludes the possibility of gender, male or female.

it is the combined attributes of a bonding pair that most accurately reflects the essence of God.

Then WHY is the reference always "he" and never "she" or "it"?

Why indeed.

Hobelim believes the bible was written for folks with a decoder ring.

He honestly answers the contradictions in the bible by claiming that wherever there's a contradiction, it's like a big giant X on a map to where there's profound wisdom on that page.

People are so well practiced at bending over backwards to get out of feeling fulla fuckin shit - but hobelim is a speshull kinda fulla fuckin shit because he mocks the other believers while postulating something far more ridiculous.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

"Face to face" is a figure of speech.

Well sure you say that. You have to say that. I say you're wrong. Oops, looks like all we have are guesses.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If atheism isnt a religion, why does the Religion forum attract the God Haters like flies?

If Atheism IS a religion, why don't Atheists get the same special tax breaks other religions get???

They get special treatment and total tax exemption

Atheists do NOT!

Yes they do. The unofficial state religion of the United States is secular humanism. All of its precepts are taught in the public schools; its principles are the only conversations allowed in public. Everyone else is expected to ask permission to practice their beliefs and are taxed for what they believe. Denying it won't change the bottom line.

From the Amazon review of Godless, by Coulter…


Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).

Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

For liberals, evolution is the touchstone that separates the enlightened from the benighted.
And....Franklin Delano Roosevelt, "...the Socialist Savior of the Democratic Party."

the Catechism: you didn't build that.....any success is just dumb luck

 

[edthecynic]

If atheism isnt a religion, why does the Religion forum attract the God Haters like flies?

If Atheism IS a religion, why don't Atheists get the same special tax breaks other religions get???

They get special treatment and total tax exemption

Atheists do NOT!

Yes they do. The unofficial state religion of the United States is secular humanism. All of its precepts are taught in the public schools; its principles are the only conversations allowed in public. Everyone else is expected to ask permission to practice their beliefs and are taxed for what they believe. Denying it won't change the bottom line.

Atheism and Secular Humanism are NOT the same! But you knew that already.
Secular Humanism Defined | Free Inquiry
Secular humanism’s cognitive thrust lies in its naturalistic worldview; its emotional or affective thrust lies in its positive ethical outlook. Each element is equally essential to secular humanism; neither stands alone. I submit that this meaningfully differentiates secular humanism from religious humanism, and from simple atheism as well. Continuing with Hitchens’s language, secular humanists necessarily disbelieve in God (naturalism) and just as necessarily oppose thuggery and tribalism on principle (an outgrowth of ethics). Of course, many atheists, agnostics, and religious humanists do the same. But when atheists and agnostics adopt positive ethics, they do so for reasons independent of their atheism or agnosticism. When religious humanists defend naturalism, they do so for reasons outside the boundaries of their religious humanism. Only for the secular humanist do both commitments arise organically within his or her life stance.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

If atheism isnt a religion, why does the Religion forum attract the God Haters like flies?

If Atheism IS a religion, why don't Atheists get the same special tax breaks other religions get???

They get special treatment and total tax exemption

Atheists do NOT!

Yes they do. The unofficial state religion of the United States is secular humanism. All of its precepts are taught in the public schools; its principles are the only conversations allowed in public. Everyone else is expected to ask permission to practice their beliefs and are taxed for what they believe. Denying it won't change the bottom line.

Atheism and Secular Humanism are NOT the same! But you knew that already.
Secular Humanism Defined | Free Inquiry
Secular humanism’s cognitive thrust lies in its naturalistic worldview; its emotional or affective thrust lies in its positive ethical outlook. Each element is equally essential to secular humanism; neither stands alone. I submit that this meaningfully differentiates secular humanism from religious humanism, and from simple atheism as well. Continuing with Hitchens’s language, secular humanists necessarily disbelieve in God (naturalism) and just as necessarily oppose thuggery and tribalism on principle (an outgrowth of ethics). Of course, many atheists, agnostics, and religious humanists do the same. But when atheists and agnostics adopt positive ethics, they do so for reasons independent of their atheism or agnosticism. When religious humanists defend naturalism, they do so for reasons outside the boundaries of their religious humanism. Only for the secular humanist do both commitments arise organically within his or her life stance.

Of course I know the differences; you meant that as underhanded insult. At the end of the day, you're playing with semantics. It's tantamount to telling liberals there is a difference between the KKK and the nazis.

Whether secular humanism, religious humanism or atheism is at the forefront, they are equally intolerant of anything Christian. The differences the non-Christian world that disbelieves in God and the Bible have are so insignificant, that they all line up at the ballot box, supporting the same lineup of candidates.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Whether secular humanism, religious humanism or atheism is at the forefront, they are equally intolerant of anything Christian.

Complete nonsense. Faux victim crybabying.