For anyone who says "There are no Neo-Nazis in Ukraine", watch this!

[Rigby5]

Are you aware of mass immigration? Those people are fighting for their culture. It does not matter what color they are.

Wrong.
The Crimea, Donetsk and other regions were always predominantly ethnic Russian, the Ukrainians are not trying to defend any culture, but to destroy one.

 

[Rigby5]

The only Neo-Nazis in Ukraine are the separatists who are fighting for Putin. Plus a few NaziCon nutjobs like the ones posting on USMB and supporting Trump.

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That is totally wrong.
The Ukrainians have always been about the most bigoted, racist, and biased country on the planet.
That is why 80% of the people manning Nazi death camps in WWII were Ukrainians.
The gangs of Ukrainian racists were massacring ethnic Russians since they were given the go ahead from Kyiv, since 2014.

 

[Rigby5]

No, but Pootin and Roosia can now invade Alaska seeing I know for a fact there are Neo-Nazis up there and do not ask how I know!

That is silly.
Are you trying to claim that neo-nazi Ukrainian gangs have NOT massacred over 14k ethnic Russians since 2014?

 

[kyzr]

As for the Ukrainian fascist murderers:
{...
Ethnic Russians constituted the social and political elite of Ukraine in the heyday of the Soviet Empire, but were reduced to second-class citizens following the break-up of the Soviet Union in the nineties. The state-sponsored persecution of ethnic Russians intensified across Ukraine following the colored revolution in January 2005, dubbed the Orange Revolution, orchestrated by the Western powers and their Ukrainian collaborators, subversively toppling the democratically elected president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych.

But the real ethnic cleansing of Russians in Ukraine began after the 2014 Maidan coup, once again ousting pro-Russia Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, and NATO powers initiated an eight-year war of attrition against Russia in Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region by nurturing the Ukraine’s infamous Azov Battalion, officially part of the National Guard of Ukraine, that has been widely acknowledged as a neo-Nazi volunteer paramilitary force connected with foreign white supremacist organizations.

Azov Battalion was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. As a battalion, the group fought on the frontlines against pro-Russia separatists in Donbas, the eastern region of Ukraine.

A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russia-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko. “These are our best warriors,” he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. “Our best volunteers.”

The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine’s national purpose was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races].” Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.

These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region. In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and 2, Aidar and Donbas units.

The Mint Press News recently reported: “Zelensky’s presidential bid in 2019, which saw him win 73% of the vote, was successful on the basis that he was running in order to combat corruption and create peace in the country but, as the leaked documents known as the Pandora Papers revealed, he himself was storing funds in offshore bank accounts. Zelenskyy’s campaign was at the time boosted and bankrolled by Israeli-Ukrainian billionaire Igor Kolomoisky – who was himself accused of stealing $5.5 billion from his own bank.

“Muslims seem to be a major issue for the Azov Battalion. The Islamophobia present not only in Azov, but also in the National Guard of Ukraine, came through strongly on social media as the official National Guard site glorified the Azov Battalion as they dipped their bullets in pig fat. The video was directed at Muslim soldiers from Chechnya who are fighting on the side of Russia and were described as orcs by the National Guard on Twitter.”

In June 2015, both Canada and the United States announced they will not support or train the Azov regiment, citing its neo-Nazi connections. The following year, however, the US lifted the ban under pressure from the Pentagon, and the CIA initiated the clandestine program to nurture ultra-nationalist militias in east Ukraine. In October 2019, 40 members of the US Congress signed a letter unsuccessfully calling for the US State Department to designate Azov as a “foreign terrorist organization” (FTO).

In Feb. 2019, the Nation Magazine published a detailed think piece: “Neo-Nazis and the Far Right are on the March in Ukraine,” elaborating Ukraine’s far-right militant groups’ xenophobic and white supremacist political ideology.
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The Ukrainians did NOT give up any nukes.
Similar to the US, nukes in the Soviet Union were under central control completely.
US nukes located in Montana are NOT controlled or owned by Montana.
Similarly, the Ukraine never had any nukes at all.

NATO most certainly DID put nukes in Poland.
They were claimed to be anti-missile interceptors, but were 3 stage and with nuclear warheads.

1. Your post is written from the pro-Russian perspective. Yanukovich was a Putin puppet and his "gestapo" the "Berkut" brutally put down protests. There is a movie named "Maidan" that shows how the people toppled Yanukovych and forced him back to Moscow. Since Zelensky won with 75% of the vote that shoots your post in the ass that the people were really pro-Russia.

2. The Ukrainians gave up their nukes. They got paid for them, and they got the Budapest Memorandum guaranteeing their security. My link proves it. Google it all you want.

Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize.
In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum.

3. The US did NOT put nukes in Poland. They were interceptor missiles. Since Iran is not developing ICBMs they aren't needed. You did not prove the US ever had nukes in Poland.

 

[Lastamender]

Wrong.
The Crimea, Donetsk and other regions were always predominantly ethnic Russian, the Ukrainians are not trying to defend any culture, but to destroy one.

I was speaking of all of Western Europe, not the Ukraine.

 

[AntonToo]

Who cares what they call themselves.
The POINT is they hate Russians and have been trying to murder all ethnic Russians in the Ukraine, since 2014.

Ohh so we should care what YOU call them?

Hating Russians, after they invade and steal parts of your country is quite natural and has NOTHING to do with Nazi ideology.

Russians keep complaining about "Russophobia"...while supporting attacks on other countries that cause it.

Having said that Ukraine has always had a large population of ethnic Russians, including in Kiev, there were no cleansings there or anywhere else. The point of conflict in Donbass region was about Federal authority over the country, not ethnicity.

 

[Rigby5]

1. Your post is written from the pro-Russian perspective. Yanukovich was a Putin puppet and his "gestapo" the "Berkut" brutally put down protests. There is a movie named "Maidan" that shows how the people toppled Yanukovych and forced him back to Moscow. Since Zelensky won with 75% of the vote that shoots your post in the ass that the people were really pro-Russia.

2. The Ukrainians gave up their nukes. They got paid for them, and they got the Budapest Memorandum guaranteeing their security. My link proves it. Google it all you want.

Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize.
In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum.

3. The US did NOT put nukes in Poland. They were interceptor missiles. Since Iran is not developing ICBMs they aren't needed. You did not prove the US ever had nukes in Poland.

Wrong.

1. No one mentioned Yanukovich.
The movie "Maidan" is a fictional movie and not at all reality.
I NEVER said that the whole Ukraine was pro-Russian.
What I said was that provinces of Russia that Khrushchev gave to the Ukraine in 1955 were being brutalized and massacred by Ukrainian fascist, with the support of Kyiv.

2. The Ukraine NEVER had any control over those Soviet nukes there.
The Ukraine gave up nothing because there is no way they could ever have launched them.

3. The interceptor missiles the US put into Poland were nuclear, 3 stage, missiles.
There are no reliable interceptors which are not nuclear.
Traditionally all ABMs have always been nuclear.
And since Iran never was any sort of threat to Poland, clearly those nuclear NATO missiles were actually intended to attack Russia.

 

[Rigby5]

Ohh so we should care what YOU call them?

Hating Russians, after they invade and steal parts of your country is quite natural and has NOTHING to do with Nazi ideology.

Russians keep complaining about "Russophobia"...while supporting attacks on other countries that cause it.

Having said that Ukraine has always had a large population of ethnic Russians, including in Kiev, there were no cleansings there or anywhere else. The point of conflict in Donbass region was about Federal authority over the country, not ethnicity.

Wrong.

I never called them anything, but just identified them as fascist racist out to murder all ethnic Russians in the Ukraine.

These racists fascist started massacring ethnic Russian in the Ukraine since 2014.
That was way before this current Russian invasion, and is one of the causes of the Russian invasion.
Get your timeline straight.
The cause was the fascists murdering ethnic Russians, which lead to the effect of Russia having to invade to stop the murders.
And yes, there are "ethnic cleansing" murders of ethnic Russians through out the Ukraine.
It is just more open and on a larger scale in the rural provinces.
The Ukraine is about the single most racist, bigoted, and violent country and culture in the world.
Why else would they have volunteered to run death camps like Demjanjuk did at Sobibor.

 

[kyzr]

Wrong.

1. No one mentioned Yanukovich.
The movie "Maidan" is a fictional movie and not at all reality.
I NEVER said that the whole Ukraine was pro-Russian.
What I said was that provinces of Russia that Khrushchev gave to the Ukraine in 1955 were being brutalized and massacred by Ukrainian fascist, with the support of Kyiv.

2. The Ukraine NEVER had any control over those Soviet nukes there.
The Ukraine gave up nothing because there is no way they could ever have launched them.

3. The interceptor missiles the US put into Poland were nuclear, 3 stage, missiles.
There are no reliable interceptors which are not nuclear.
Traditionally all ABMs have always been nuclear.
And since Iran never was any sort of threat to Poland, clearly those nuclear NATO missiles were actually intended to attack Russia.

1. You haven't proven that the people in Crimea were brutalized by Ukrainians. Given a choice the Crimeans would probably vote to stay part of Ukraine.

2. I give you links proving my posts, you make statements with no proof.

3. There is a big difference between nuclear interceptors and "city killer" H-bombs. Not even saying that those interceptors were nuclear, saying they were not city killers, or first strike weapons.

 

[AntonToo]

Wrong.

I never called them anything, but just identified them as fascist racist out to murder all ethnic Russians in the Ukraine.

1. Horseshit, you are peddling braindead Russian justification for the war - fighting Nazis. But now suddenly it doesn't matter? It doesn't matter that you were spreading lies?

2. Ukrainians and Russians are the same race dumbass.

3. Ethnic Russians, Jews and etc. lived fine in western Ukraine untill Russians invaded and started bombing the shit out of their cities. Your claim about some sort of widespread problem of ethnic Russians getting murdered is nothing but Kremlin propaganda.

 

[AntonToo]

These racists fascist started massacring ethnic Russian in the Ukraine since 2014.

Idiot, the fighting was isolated Dombass region because it had little to do with ethnicity and everything to do with DPR separatists refusing Ukranian federal authority.

When southern states did that in America we had a long, devastating civil war to keep the country togather.

Can you even for a second imagine Putin sitting by while a part of his country declares independance? He'd have millitary down there killing people in two seconds and you'd be cheering his bloody campaign on...just like you did in Grozny.

 

[Colin norris]

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For all these people here who claim Russia is invading Ukraine for no reason.

They are invading to get thebland etc. There should be more nazis there to fight the Russians.

Russians did not sacrifice their lives to defeat the Nazis, only to have a neighbor state host these people, least of all a fellow Slavic nation being used as a puppet by the US.

You are completely fucked in the head over this. Youre just a puppet of the trump/ putin propaganda machine. Ukraine is a free and democratic country and your still supporting communists. You traitorous pos.

These idiots are currently getting thought a lesson, many of them won't live to learn from their mistakes though.

Its taken the Russians a long time to learn. Approximately 5000 are now dead they know of and more to come.

Youve certainly a love of the communists that you didn't have until Trump praised putin. You are a disgrace to your country and all it stands for. You should be tried for treason and disposed of like them.

 

[Rigby5]

1. You haven't proven that the people in Crimea were brutalized by Ukrainians. Given a choice the Crimeans would probably vote to stay part of Ukraine.

2. I give you links proving my posts, you make statements with no proof.

3. There is a big difference between nuclear interceptors and "city killer" H-bombs. Not even saying that those interceptors were nuclear, saying they were not city killers, or first strike weapons.

Wrong.

1. There were several votes and many polls.
Most said around 93% wanted to leave the Ukraine.
Who would not want to leave the Ukraine, an extremely violent and elitist culture?
This is common public knowledge; you should already know.

2. You linked and proved nothing.

3. The ONLY difference between these nuclear ABMs and "city killers" are size, and you totally have it wrong.
First strike weapons are NOT city killers. The point of first strike is to hit retaliatory weapons, which does NOT need city killers. City killers are the retaliatory weapons, holding population centers as hostage.

 

[Rigby5]

1. Horseshit, you are peddling braindead Russian justification for the war - fighting Nazis. But now suddenly it doesn't matter? It doesn't matter that you were spreading lies?

2. Ukrainians and Russians are the same race dumbass.

3. Ethnic Russians, Jews and etc. lived fine in western Ukraine untill Russians invaded and started bombing the shit out of their cities. Your claim about some sort of widespread problem of ethnic Russians getting murdered is nothing but Kremlin propaganda.

1. Just plain ignorant. The Ukrainian fascists have always been evil, and even in WWII they worked for Hitler, manning the death camps, like Demjanjuk, at Sobibor.

2. Just plain ignorant. There actually are no such thing as races at all, and it is just cultural perception. The Ukrainians have always hated and murdered Russians. They are pure evil, brought up on hate.

3. Just plain ignorant. Ukrainians have ALWAYS been hateful, racist, elitest, violent, and evil.
Again, why else would 80% of the people manning Hitler's death camps be Ukrainian otherwise.
There was no Russian invasion then. The murders of ethnic Russian starting in 2014 are well known and recorded.

 

[Rigby5]

Idiot, the fighting was isolated Dombass region because it had little to do with ethnicity and everything to do with DPR separatists refusing Ukranian federal authority.

When southern states did that in America we had a long, devastating civil war to keep the country togather.

Can you even for a second imagine Putin sitting by while a part of his country declares independance? He'd have millitary down there killing people in two seconds and you'd be cheering his bloody campaign on...just like you did in Grozny.

Russian separatists in the Donetsk, Crimea, etc., did not start anything, and it was the Ukrainians who attacked them first.
Russian do not have a history of invading or attacking anyone.
The Ukrainians have the most bloody awful history of any country in the world.
They are a combination of corrupt Polish aristocracy, Cossacks, and Mongols hordes.
Read about it sometime, like "Tarus Bulba".
They were finally defeated, subdued, and brought into the Holy Roman Empire in order to prevent them from repeating their atrocities. It is too bad Russia ever let them become independent again. They need to be controlled. They are criminal.

 

[Rigby5]

They are invading to get thebland etc. There should be more nazis there to fight the Russians.

You are completely fucked in the head over this. Youre just a puppet of the trump/ putin propaganda machine. Ukraine is a free and democratic country and your still supporting communists. You traitorous pos.


Its taken the Russians a long time to learn. Approximately 5000 are now dead they know of and more to come.

Youve certainly a love of the communists that you didn't have until Trump praised putin. You are a disgrace to your country and all it stands for. You should be tried for treason and disposed of like them.

That is stupid.
Russia has never invaded anyone, and especially not for land, something they have more of than they know what to do with.

Obviously Russia was forced to invade because the Ukraine was stealing oil for decades, murdering 14k ethnic Russians, violating treaties, trying to get NATO nukes on Russia's border, and deliberately cut off negotiations.

 

[AntonToo]

Russian do not have a history of invading or attacking anyone.

This fucking guy.

Russian invasion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[AntonToo]

Russian separatists in the Donetsk, Crimea, etc., did not start anything, and it was the Ukrainians who attacked them first.

....Separatists declared independance from Ukraine's government. Thats the whole point of conflict. If this was simply about trying to kill ethnic Russians we would see attacks all over Ukraine, not just separatist areas.

Who do you think belives your stupid nonsense?

 

[Colin norris]

That is stupid.
Russia has never invaded anyone, and especially not for land, something they have more of than they know what to do with.

You know nothing. They want two things. To reunite the motherland and regain the best land on earth. I've been there.

Obviously Russia was forced to invade because the Ukraine was stealing oil for decades, murdering 14k ethnic Russians,

They are not currently stealing oil nor did they kill 14k Russians for no reason. They have a right to defend their democracy.

violating treaties, trying to get NATO nukes on Russia's border, and deliberately cut off negotiations.

What a load of shit.

Why are you supporting the communists? I know you are a republican. That support is the opposite to what republicanism stands for. You are willing to allow the desecration and destruction of another democracy like usa because Trump praised him. If they attacked america you wouldn't be doing it.
Admit it. None of their internal problems arise with you until putin invaded. Coincidentally Trump calls him a genius and like fish jumping on to a hook, you all followed like the sheep you are.
Then you'll go back to defending freedom and democracy against the democrats in 2024.
Youre brain dead hypocrite.

 

[Turtlesoup]

That is totally wrong.
The Ukrainians have always been about the most bigoted, racist, and biased country on the planet.
That is why 80% of the people manning Nazi death camps in WWII were Ukrainians.
The gangs of Ukrainian racists were massacring ethnic Russians since they were given the go ahead from Kyiv, since 2014.

Hun, even if true-----If being a big If---still doesn't justify Russia invading and murdering them