For all those claiming we are fine.

[Kosh]

The fact is that the economy is improving; it would be improving a lot faster if it weren’t for republican obstructionism and foot-dragging.

And there are plenty of jobs available – the problem is these jobs require particular skills and experience most displaced workers lack. Indeed, the need isn’t really to ‘create’ jobs but to prepare Americans to be able to perform in the jobs that exist. In this regard Congressional republicans have failed the American worker considerably, again, as a consequence of their obstructionism and refusal to create and fund education and training programs for purely partisan reasons.

And more far left propaganda!

He is correct. He also presented considerable real information.

On the other hand, "And more far left propaganda!" is just meaningless, information lacking, emotional propogada bullshit.

It 8is calling it what it is as the far left will not understand anything that is outside their programming.

 

[Kosh]

What’s also telling is that the OP felt the need to start a thread to ‘explain’ December’s unemployment rate for fear it might reflect positively on the president.

You mean like the far left did and is doing about the Bush years?

 

[itfitzme]

What’s also telling is that the OP felt the need to start a thread to ‘explain’ December’s unemployment rate for fear it might reflect positively on the president.

The article may be useful if the OPer is clueless as to what the unemployment rate measures. It is an important thing to be brought to the attention of the ignorant and uninformed. Kind a Dr Suess of economics article.

That wasn't the impression that I got from the article though. Kinda like the articles that point out that GDP doesn't count black market or housework activity so it under estimates actual productivity.

It is the impression I get of the OPer. Kinda needs to read Dr Suess.

 

[itfitzme]

And more far left propaganda!

He is correct. He also presented considerable real information.

On the other hand, "And more far left propaganda!" is just meaningless, information lacking, emotional propogada bullshit.

It 8is calling it what it is as the far left will not understand anything that is outside their programming.

You haven't yet said anything that demonstrates any intelligence or original thought at all. You sound most like a ten year old running around the school yard calling other kids "gay".

"The teacher is gay". "You're gay." "That's gay."

 

[Kosh]

What’s also telling is that the OP felt the need to start a thread to ‘explain’ December’s unemployment rate for fear it might reflect positively on the president.

The article may be useful if the OPer is clueless as to what the unemployment rate measures. It is an important thing to be brought to the attention of the ignorant and uninformed. Kind a Dr Suess of economics article.

That wasn't the impression that I got from the article though. Kinda like the articles that point out that GDP doesn't count black market or housework activity so it under estimates actual productivity.

It is the impression I get of the OPer. Kinda needs to read Dr Suess.

And it is obvious the far left does not understand the numbers either as they think with a 6.7% more people are back at work. Which is far from the facts. When 300,000 people drop off that is a sign.

besides the rules on how they calculate unemployment changed when Clinton came in office and the far left thought they saw a minor recession headed their way so they changed the rules on how the unemployment numbers would be posted in order to protect their power.

Something lost on the far left or anyone claiming to "understand" the employment numbers.

 

[LoneLaugher]

What’s also telling is that the OP felt the need to start a thread to ‘explain’ December’s unemployment rate for fear it might reflect positively on the president.

You mean like the far left did and is doing about the Bush years?

[MENTION=36327]TheGreatGatsby[/MENTION]

Score one for the good guys!

 

[Kosh]

He is correct. He also presented considerable real information.

On the other hand, "And more far left propaganda!" is just meaningless, information lacking, emotional propogada bullshit.

It 8is calling it what it is as the far left will not understand anything that is outside their programming.

You haven't yet said anything that demonstrates any intelligence or original thought at all. You sound most like a ten year old running around the school yard calling other kids "gay".

"The teacher is gay". "You're gay." "That's gay."

Says the far left Obama drone.

 

[Kosh]

What’s also telling is that the OP felt the need to start a thread to ‘explain’ December’s unemployment rate for fear it might reflect positively on the president.

You mean like the far left did and is doing about the Bush years?

[MENTION=36327]TheGreatGatsby[/MENTION]

Score one for the good guys!

Deflection from the far left Obama drone.

 

[itfitzme]

What’s also telling is that the OP felt the need to start a thread to ‘explain’ December’s unemployment rate for fear it might reflect positively on the president.

The article may be useful if the OPer is clueless as to what the unemployment rate measures. It is an important thing to be brought to the attention of the ignorant and uninformed. Kind a Dr Suess of economics article.

That wasn't the impression that I got from the article though. Kinda like the articles that point out that GDP doesn't count black market or housework activity so it under estimates actual productivity.

It is the impression I get of the OPer. Kinda needs to read Dr Suess.

And it is obvious the far left does not understand the numbers either as they think with a 6.7% more people are back at work. Which is far from the facts. When 300,000 people drop off that is a sign.

besides the rules on how they calculate unemployment changed when Clinton came in office and the far left thought they saw a minor recession headed their way so they changed the rules on how the unemployment numbers would be posted in order to protect their power.

Something lost on the far left or anyone claiming to "understand" the employment numbers.

Really, the questionaire changed in 1995.

http://www.bls.gov/mlr/1995/10/art3full.pdf

So what do you believe you are talking about?

 

[Pheonixops]

Is unemployment really 6.7 percent?

So much for 6.7 percent.

Is that article basically stating that the employment rate amongst Americans is approximately 87% instead of 93.3%?

 

[DiamondDave]

The number of people out of the labor force equals the disaster under Jimmy Carter....but we said Obama was Carter II long before he started fucking things up.

More people are employed. Fewer are unemployed. Good news is good news.

Except you don't count all unemployed when announcing your unemployed number

It is shady dealing... it is political trickery.. plain and simple

When it comes down to it.. the employment situation is no better than it was under the horrible Carter

 

[francoHFW]

This is REAGAN'S way of figuring UE, AND UE UNDER CARTER WASN'T THE PROBLEM, IT WAS INFLATION...

 

[LoneLaugher]

The number of people out of the labor force equals the disaster under Jimmy Carter....but we said Obama was Carter II long before he started fucking things up.

More people are employed. Fewer are unemployed. Good news is good news.

Except you don't count all unemployed when announcing your unemployed number

It is shady dealing... it is political trickery.. plain and simple

When it comes down to it.. the employment situation is no better than it was under the horrible Carter

Broken record. Get fixed.

 

[DiamondDave]

Broken record still shows that it is smoke news blown up the public's ass.. What needs to be fixed is the way that these misrepresentations are reported.. by both the government and the media

 

[LoneLaugher]

Broken record still shows that it is smoke news blown up the public's ass.. What needs to be fixed is the way that these misrepresentations are reported.. by both the government and the media

As long as we are using the same formula that we have always used....the numbers carry meaning.

And we are.

Therefore, the employment situation is improving. I know you don't want that, but it is. Sorry.

 

[DiamondDave]

Broken record still shows that it is smoke news blown up the public's ass.. What needs to be fixed is the way that these misrepresentations are reported.. by both the government and the media

As long as we are using the same formula that we have always used....the numbers carry meaning.

And we are.

Therefore, the employment situation is improving. I know you don't want that, but it is. Sorry.

Actually they don't.. it is like continuing to live your life based on the same old lie... the numbers should not be twisted in any way...

The employment situation is not improving... see labor force participation rate.. see numbers of new jobs in comparison to population growth and lost jobs...

Sorry.. I don't look at the numbers with partisan colored glasses

 

[LoneLaugher]

Broken record still shows that it is smoke news blown up the public's ass.. What needs to be fixed is the way that these misrepresentations are reported.. by both the government and the media

As long as we are using the same formula that we have always used....the numbers carry meaning.

And we are.

Therefore, the employment situation is improving. I know you don't want that, but it is. Sorry.

Actually they don't.. it is like continuing to live your life based on the same old lie... the numbers should not be twisted in any way...

The employment situation is not improving... see labor force participation rate.. see numbers of new jobs in comparison to population growth and lost jobs...

Sorry.. I don't look at the numbers with partisan colored glasses

No.....of course you don't. You'd never do that.

 

[williepete]

LoneLaugher,

At what point will we have printed too much money?

How much longer should we continue to print money?

How much borrowing is too much?

How much longer should we borrow?

How much debt is too much?

What happens when interest rates return to normal and we are unable to service the interest on Obama's 5-year-long, soon to be 8-year-long sugar buzz economic spending spree?

Based on your knowledge of history, has a country ever gotten in trouble by printing and borrowing to keep its economy afloat? Have you ever heard of the Weimar Republic?

How high of a debt-to-GDP ratio is OK with you? Do you know what a debt-to-GDP ratio is? How has Japan historically fared on that playing field? Should we learn from them?

Is it possible to borrow, spend and print your way out of debt and into prosperity?

13 simple questions. Your answers will be brilliant. I anxiously wait to learn from you how Obama will reinvent economic reality and history and bend them to his narcissism.

Please spare us deflection and distraction and answer these honest questions.

Cheers

 

[francoHFW]

Could the TP cut the phony crises and allow a recovery- how bout a jobs/infrastructure act...then the deficit takes care of itself- under Dems anyway lol...

 

[francoHFW]

Printing money is all Pubs are allowing- they're the Wall St cronies...