For all the complaints about America be grateful you werent born in china

[RoshawnMarkwees]

China sealed people in their own homes and let them starve to death. Call Trump or Biden a fascist dictator all you want, but we've never been on the same level of corrupt or evil as the Chinese government.

But Fauci asked about the Chinese, incredulously, “Do you think they’d want to kill their own people?”

 

[dblack]

I wonder what rank the pro china shills on this forum hold?

Beats me. But I have strong suspicions that there's a presence here. Along with insurance industry shills, Russian agitators and various partisan drones.

 

[Kruska]

You believe JoeB131 and the CCP? Really??

I believe what I can see with my own eyes and persons who I know that can be trusted.

And not bull - coming from people who have never been to China or are paid Falun Gong shills, etc.

FYI: Someone who states "Communist" China has already exposed himself to be a KNOW-NOTHING in regards to China.

 

[dblack]

I believe what I can see with my own eyes and persons who I know that can be trusted.

Me too. That's how I know you're full of shit.

 

[Mac-7]

I believe what I can see with my own eyes and persons who I know that can be trusted.

And not bull - coming from people who have never been to China or are paid Falun Gong shills, etc.

FYI: Someone who states "Communist" China has already exposed himself to be a KNOW-NOTHING in regards to China.

I cant claim to be an expert on china

But the growing evidence of failure within china speaks for me

 

[Kruska]

Me too. That's how I know you're full of shit.

You have never met me, you do not know me, nor do any others here on USMB - so the only one who just evidently gave prove to being full of shit is YOU.

Now **** off moron. Since you got nothing substantiated to contribute.

 

[dblack]

You have never met me, you do not know me, nor do any others here on USMB - so the only one who just evidently gave prove to being full of shit is YOU.

Now **** off moron. Since you got nothing substantiated to contribute.

I didn't say that I know you, and I don't really care to. But I know that what you're saying isn't true.

 

[dblack]

But Fauci asked about the Chinese, incredulously, “Do you think they’d want to kill their own people?”

I don't think they want to kill their own people, but they place far less value on human life than we do in the west. Especially with regard to the underclasses. Their income inequality is much worse and the contrast between their cities are rural areas is stunning.

 

[Kruska]

I cant claim to be an expert on china

You never did - you just post other peoples unsubstantiated crap in regards to China.

But the growing evidence of failure within china speaks for me

Who ever claimed that China or the CPC are PERFECT or FLAWLESS ???

It's FOREMOST Americans and Europeans that constantly talk Cock&Bull about China - instead of cleaning up their own countries deplorable mess.

I would yet have to see Xi to act as a car-salesman, propagating a single brand, whilst inviting S-Korean & Japanese carmakers to come to China (USA) - thus killing off the remaining Chinese (US) Brands. - so much for FAILURE and a disastrous US policy.

 

[Mac-7]

You never did - you just post other peoples unsubstantiated crap in regards to China.

Who ever claimed that China or the CPC are PERFECT or FLAWLESS ???

It's FOREMOST Americans and Europeans that constantly talk Cock&Bull about China - instead of cleaning up their own countries deplorable mess.

I would yet have to see Xi to act as a car-salesman, propagating a single brand, whilst inviting S-Korean & Japanese carmakers to come to China (USA) - thus killing off the remaining Chinese (US) Brands. - so much for FAILURE and a disastrous US policy.

Inviting the Japanese car makers into the US raised the standards for US companies. We learned from Toyota how to build better cars

 

[Kruska]

Inviting the Japanese car makers into the US raised the standards for US companies. We learned from Toyota how to build better cars

If so, then why aren't US cars globally sought for??? - because Americans obviously didn't learn anything. US brands simply lost their very own US market to foreign manufacturers. And your present Idiot in Chief - is calling onto more foreign manufacturers to come so as to kill of US manufacturers entirely.

How old are you? 20? - otherwise you would know that Bush. sen. had launched an economic war against Germany and Japan - to PREVENT foreign manufactures from taking over the US industry. Germany survived this attack rather unscathed - whilst Japan got crippled and hasn't manged to recover till today. And now your Idiot in Chief is asking, begging Japanese manufacturers to invest in the USA - aka to TAKE OVER the remaining market-share of US manufacturers.

China invited carmakers from all over the world - to help and teach the Chinese to build modern cars - now they build the same or even better cars then the Koreans, Japanese or Germans - and never lost their own market nor their own manufacturers to foreign manufacturers. But even managed to take over almost every foreign investor in China who possessed know-how - thus placing themselves automatically into the original manufacturers country and market - you dolt.

Those dumb, lazy and arrogant Yanks, are NOWHERE near China's potential, but find religious like consolation, via posting DUMB SHIT about CHINA, Russia and everyone else - pathetic & moronic losers that is what the present majority of Americans are.

Morons Are Going Amok, a grand US coalition consisting of brainless sheep, led on by Deep State Billionaires.

Over and Out

 

[Mac-7]

If so, then why aren't US cars globally sought for???

High wages, environmental costs of production, low quality union workers in most chevy and ford plants, ect

Plus I think the Germans and Japanese still engineer better cars than America

The gap is closing but its still there

 

[Kruska]

High wages,

Wages in Germany are far higher

environmental costs of production,

Way higher in Germany

low quality union workers in most chevy and ford plants, ect

That's why the Japanese introduced Kaisen, Six-Sigma ..... .... & Germany, TQC, TQM, QCM & SQM
So why can't Americans do that?? since they factually employ all those methods at e.g. Ford, or e.g. Boeing
Because it's too expensive to pursue it fully - and US OEM's only want profit, the result - see Space X going Boom, Boom, ... or the disastrous failure of the Boeing 737max. etc. etc.
Look at your non existent school&vocational training institutions - before entering an industrial manufacturing company.

Plus I think the Germans and Japanese still engineer better cars than America

No - American engineers are just as good. because there is big money to be made with elite schools.
But US OEM's want simple, thus cheap cars, incl. larger gap tolerances to cheap materials used etc.etc.- so as to maximize profit
US OEM's want to use old existing engine designs - so as to maximize profit and don't care about environmental issues.

The gap is closing but its still there

No, and it never will - since US OEM's only think and care about profit - and not what the middle to upper consumer class expects/demands in the USA, and especially not outside of the USA - therefore no one wants these low quality and non-economic and non-environmental US cars, aside from those US low & lower income class people.

So it's this well known US Capitalistic mindset that essentially hinders US products from being sought globally for.
Look at your wooden houses in the USA - a bloody joke compared to European, Asian and even modern African homes.
Maybe your Trump should talk about this - instead about his cock&bull tariffs, unfair, ripping us off, etc. etc.

 

[Mac-7]

That's why the Japanese introduced Kaisen, Six-Sigma ..... .... & Germany, TQC, TQM, QCM & SQM
So why can't Americans do that?? since they factually employ all those methods at e.g. Ford, or e.g. Boeing
Because it's too expensive to pursue it fully - and US OEM's only want profit, the result - see Space X going Boom, Boom, ... or the disastrous failure of the Boeing 737max. etc. etc.
Look at your non existent school&vocational training institutions - before entering an industrial manufacturing company.

I dont disagree with all of that

In fact if you were not a doctrinaire trump hater I might be more agreeable

But I dont want to be accused of colluding with the 50-Cent Army

Our vocational training could be better I suppose

But the real problem is the lib culture that looks down its nose at anyone with dirt or grease under their fingernails

Boys are discouraged from working with their hands as well as their brain

 

[Mac-7]

Kruska

Btw: the Germans have made mistakes too

Such as their insane energy policy which impoverishes everyone to one degree or another

 

[Kruska]

I dont disagree with all of that

In fact if you were not a doctrinaire trump hater I might be more agreeable

I know

But the real problem is the lib culture that looks down its nose at anyone with dirt or grease under their fingernails

Boys are discouraged from working with their hands as well as their brain

The elites (e.g. Bush/Trump/Biden/Musk etc.etc ) are the ones who make sure that this doesn't change.
The Lefty/Libs are factually trying to infest those "workers" with their dogma - whilst trying (but failing) to get them onto a higher educational level.

 

[Kruska]

Kruska

Btw: the Germans have made mistakes too

Such as their insane energy policy which impoverishes everyone to one degree or another

Absolutely correct
However China did not follow that insane path

 

[whitehall]

You don't have to pick a country. Just be thankful to God that you were born in the greatest Country in the world that has written guarantees of certain freedoms that can never be taken away.